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User: "Bill Reilly"
Date: 20 Aug 2004 08:18:12 PM
Object: John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kerry Was On Senate Select Intelligence Committee For Eight Years
(1993-2000).Ref: (Michael Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of
American Politics 2000, 1999, p. 1796; Michael Barone and Grant
Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American Politics 1998, 1997, p. 1579; Michael
Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American Politics 1996, 1995,
p. 1494; Michael Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American
Politics 1994, 1993, p. 1427)
While On Committee, Kerry Proposed At Least Three Significant Cuts To
Intelligence Budget Totalling $7.5 Billion.
A Look At Kerry's Legislative Record During That Same Time Period
Finds No Legislation That Kerry Proposed (Wrote And Sponsored) To
Increase Funding For Human Intelligence Or Reform Intelligence
Community To Focus Resources On Human Intelligence Gathering
Kerry Voted Three Times To Reveal Top Secret Intelligence Budget
Sen. Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ) Said Kerry's 1994 Amendment To Cut
Intelligence Would "Close Our Eyes And Ears" To Gathering Threats. "We
have to stay ready. It makes no sense for us to close our eyes and
ears to developments around the world which could ultimately save U.S.
lives and resources." (Sen. Dennis DeConcini [D-AZ], Congressional
Record, 2/10/94, p. S1360)
Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Said Kerry's Proposed Cut "Would Severely
Hamper" Intelligence Efforts. "Madam President, the intelligence
budget has already been cut by almost 18 percent over the past 2
years. An additional reduction of $1 billion would severely hamper the
intelligence community's ability to provide decision makers and
policymakers with information on matters of vital concern to this
country." (Sen. Daniel Inouye [D-HI], Congressional Record, 2/10/94,
pp. S1330-S1332)
Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Said Kerry's Amendment Would Leave Our
Troops Vulnerable To Attack. "Madam President, if we expect the 1
percent of our Nation to risk their lives and stand in harm's way, the
least we can do is to provide them with all of the resources necessary
so that they can carry out their mission and get home to their loved
ones. We cannot do any less. This amendment would take away their
protection, and I am not prepared to do that." (Sen. Daniel Inouye
[D-HI], Congressional Record, 2/10/94, pp. S1330-S1332)
In 1995, Kerry Voted To Slash FBI Funding By $80 Million. "Kohl,
D-Wis., amendment to add $80 million for social crime prevention
programs and offset the cost by cutting FBI funding by an equal
amount." (H.R. 2076, CQ Vote #480: Adopted 49-41: R 9-40; D 40-1,
9/29/95, Kerry Voted Yea)
Transcript Sunday, August 31, 2003 Meet the Press
Oct. 9, 2002 MSNBC
MR. RUSSERT: I went back and re-read your speech on the floor of the
Senate October 9, and I want to share that with you and our viewers...
SEN. KERRY: Absolutely.
MR. RUSSERT: ...because you repeated many of exactly the same claims
and concerns that President Bush did.
SEN. KERRY: Correct.
MR. RUSSERT: Let’s watch.
(Videotape, October 9, 2002):
SEN. KERRY: Iraq has some lethal and incapacitating agents and is
capable of quickly producing weaponizing of a variety of such agents,
including anthrax, for delivery on a range of vehicles, such as bombs,
missiles, aerial sprayers and covert operatives which would bring them
to the United States itself.
In addition, we know they are developing unmanned aerial vehicles
capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents.
According to the CIA’s report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree
that they are seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that
Saddam Hussein wants to develop them.
In the wake of September 11, who among us can say with any certainty
to anybody that the weapons might not be used against our troops or
against allies in the region? Who can say that this master of
miscalculation will not develop a weapon of mass destruction even
greater, a nuclear weapon?
.

User: "Lloyd Parker"

Title: Re: John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!! 21 Aug 2004 06:53:42 AM
In article <bk8di09fla4506ol2f2m16brsoc030itkl@4ax.com>,
Bill Reilly <bareilly@N0T0NESPAM.C0M> wrote:

John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kerry Was On Senate Select Intelligence Committee For Eight Years
(1993-2000).Ref: (Michael Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of
American Politics 2000, 1999, p. 1796; Michael Barone and Grant
Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American Politics 1998, 1997, p. 1579; Michael
Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American Politics 1996, 1995,
p. 1494; Michael Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American
Politics 1994, 1993, p. 1427)

While On Committee, Kerry Proposed At Least Three Significant Cuts To
Intelligence Budget Totalling $7.5 Billion.

Barone is hardly an objective source.


A Look At Kerry's Legislative Record During That Same Time Period
Finds No Legislation That Kerry Proposed (Wrote And Sponsored) To
Increase Funding For Human Intelligence Or Reform Intelligence
Community To Focus Resources On Human Intelligence Gathering

Why didn't that come from the executive branch?


Kerry Voted Three Times To Reveal Top Secret Intelligence Budget

Sen. Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ) Said Kerry's 1994 Amendment To Cut
Intelligence Would "Close Our Eyes And Ears" To Gathering Threats. "We
have to stay ready. It makes no sense for us to close our eyes and
ears to developments around the world which could ultimately save U.S.
lives and resources." (Sen. Dennis DeConcini [D-AZ], Congressional
Record, 2/10/94, p. S1360)

Your quote doesn't mention Kerry.

Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Said Kerry's Proposed Cut "Would Severely
Hamper" Intelligence Efforts. "Madam President, the intelligence
budget has already been cut by almost 18 percent over the past 2
years. An additional reduction of $1 billion would severely hamper the
intelligence community's ability to provide decision makers and
policymakers with information on matters of vital concern to this
country." (Sen. Daniel Inouye [D-HI], Congressional Record, 2/10/94,
pp. S1330-S1332)

Your quote doesn't mention Kerry.


Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Said Kerry's Amendment Would Leave Our
Troops Vulnerable To Attack. "Madam President, if we expect the 1
percent of our Nation to risk their lives and stand in harm's way, the
least we can do is to provide them with all of the resources necessary
so that they can carry out their mission and get home to their loved
ones. We cannot do any less. This amendment would take away their
protection, and I am not prepared to do that." (Sen. Daniel Inouye
[D-HI], Congressional Record, 2/10/94, pp. S1330-S1332)

Ibid.

In 1995, Kerry Voted To Slash FBI Funding By $80 Million. "Kohl,
D-Wis., amendment to add $80 million for social crime prevention
programs and offset the cost by cutting FBI funding by an equal
amount." (H.R. 2076, CQ Vote #480: Adopted 49-41: R 9-40; D 40-1,
9/29/95, Kerry Voted Yea)

Part of a bigger bill, I'd wager, since you right-wing kooks love to take
things out of context.






Transcript Sunday, August 31, 2003 Meet the Press
Oct. 9, 2002 MSNBC
MR. RUSSERT: I went back and re-read your speech on the floor of the
Senate October 9, and I want to share that with you and our viewers...
SEN. KERRY: Absolutely.
MR. RUSSERT: ...because you repeated many of exactly the same claims
and concerns that President Bush did.
SEN. KERRY: Correct.
MR. RUSSERT: Let’s watch.
(Videotape, October 9, 2002):
SEN. KERRY: Iraq has some lethal and incapacitating agents and is
capable of quickly producing weaponizing of a variety of such agents,
including anthrax, for delivery on a range of vehicles, such as bombs,
missiles, aerial sprayers and covert operatives which would bring them
to the United States itself.
In addition, we know they are developing unmanned aerial vehicles
capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents.

According to the CIA’s report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree
that they are seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that
Saddam Hussein wants to develop them.
In the wake of September 11, who among us can say with any certainty
to anybody that the weapons might not be used against our troops or
against allies in the region? Who can say that this master of
miscalculation will not develop a weapon of mass destruction even
greater, a nuclear weapon?

Kerry, like all in Congress, was provided with information by Bush and his
intelligence agencies.
.
User: "James"

Title: Re: John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!! 21 Aug 2004 11:54:26 AM
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:cg7r45$t7b$3@puck.cc.emory.edu...

In article <bk8di09fla4506ol2f2m16brsoc030itkl@4ax.com>,
Bill Reilly <bareilly@N0T0NESPAM.C0M> wrote:

John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kerry Was On Senate Select Intelligence Committee For Eight Years
(1993-2000).Ref: (Michael Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of
American Politics 2000, 1999, p. 1796; Michael Barone and Grant
Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American Politics 1998, 1997, p. 1579; Michael
Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American Politics 1996, 1995,
p. 1494; Michael Barone and Grant Ujifusa, The Almanac Of American
Politics 1994, 1993, p. 1427)

While On Committee, Kerry Proposed At Least Three Significant Cuts To
Intelligence Budget Totalling $7.5 Billion.


Barone is hardly an objective source.

Why not address the content, rather than an oblique attack on its source. Do
you have anything to contradict these claims?



A Look At Kerry's Legislative Record During That Same Time Period
Finds No Legislation That Kerry Proposed (Wrote And Sponsored) To
Increase Funding For Human Intelligence Or Reform Intelligence
Community To Focus Resources On Human Intelligence Gathering


Why didn't that come from the executive branch?

The Executive Branch can (and does) propose legislation to the Congress.
Only Congress can introduce legislation - and many do. But not Kerry.



Kerry Voted Three Times To Reveal Top Secret Intelligence Budget

Sen. Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ) Said Kerry's 1994 Amendment To Cut
Intelligence Would "Close Our Eyes And Ears" To Gathering Threats. "We
have to stay ready. It makes no sense for us to close our eyes and
ears to developments around the world which could ultimately save U.S.
lives and resources." (Sen. Dennis DeConcini [D-AZ], Congressional
Record, 2/10/94, p. S1360)


Your quote doesn't mention Kerry.

?? It seems that his name is in the paragraph. Are you disputing the claim
that Kerry proposed this amendment, or that DeConcini criticized it?


Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Said Kerry's Proposed Cut "Would Severely
Hamper" Intelligence Efforts. "Madam President, the intelligence
budget has already been cut by almost 18 percent over the past 2
years. An additional reduction of $1 billion would severely hamper the
intelligence community's ability to provide decision makers and
policymakers with information on matters of vital concern to this
country." (Sen. Daniel Inouye [D-HI], Congressional Record, 2/10/94,
pp. S1330-S1332)


Your quote doesn't mention Kerry.

??



Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Said Kerry's Amendment Would Leave Our
Troops Vulnerable To Attack. "Madam President, if we expect the 1
percent of our Nation to risk their lives and stand in harm's way, the
least we can do is to provide them with all of the resources necessary
so that they can carry out their mission and get home to their loved
ones. We cannot do any less. This amendment would take away their
protection, and I am not prepared to do that." (Sen. Daniel Inouye
[D-HI], Congressional Record, 2/10/94, pp. S1330-S1332)


Ibid.

??


In 1995, Kerry Voted To Slash FBI Funding By $80 Million. "Kohl,
D-Wis., amendment to add $80 million for social crime prevention
programs and offset the cost by cutting FBI funding by an equal
amount." (H.R. 2076, CQ Vote #480: Adopted 49-41: R 9-40; D 40-1,
9/29/95, Kerry Voted Yea)


Part of a bigger bill, I'd wager, since you right-wing kooks love to take
things out of context.

But you don't know that. Unless you can come up with something more than
your conjecture, the record stands that he voted to reduce FBI spending. On
my part, I'd be willing to bet that, at the time, an anti-FBI vote was
required, if Kerry was to maintain his lead in the ADA liberal rankings.




Transcript Sunday, August 31, 2003 Meet the Press
Oct. 9, 2002 MSNBC
MR. RUSSERT: I went back and re-read your speech on the floor of the
Senate October 9, and I want to share that with you and our viewers...
SEN. KERRY: Absolutely.
MR. RUSSERT: ...because you repeated many of exactly the same claims
and concerns that President Bush did.
SEN. KERRY: Correct.
MR. RUSSERT: Let's watch.
(Videotape, October 9, 2002):
SEN. KERRY: Iraq has some lethal and incapacitating agents and is
capable of quickly producing weaponizing of a variety of such agents,
including anthrax, for delivery on a range of vehicles, such as bombs,
missiles, aerial sprayers and covert operatives which would bring them
to the United States itself.
In addition, we know they are developing unmanned aerial vehicles
capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents.

According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree
that they are seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that
Saddam Hussein wants to develop them.
In the wake of September 11, who among us can say with any certainty
to anybody that the weapons might not be used against our troops or
against allies in the region? Who can say that this master of
miscalculation will not develop a weapon of mass destruction even
greater, a nuclear weapon?


Kerry, like all in Congress, was provided with information by Bush and his
intelligence agencies.

Much of the data was gathered by Clinton's intelligence agency. The head of
the CIA was a Clinton appointee, and a protege of Pat Leahy.
James
.

User: "General Sam"

Title: Re: John Kerry Intelligence Amnesia!!!!!!!!!!!! 21 Aug 2004 02:30:46 PM
Lloyd Parker wrote:

Kerry, like all in Congress, was provided with information by Bush and his
intelligence agencies.

Bush was provided confirming intel by the CIA, FBI, MI6, Putin, Mubarak,
Jordan's Abdullah, the Czechs, the Poles, the Phillipines, etc. etc.
Change the rules after the game, that the idea Lloyd, you liberal ratbag!
--
ÐÏࡱá
.



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