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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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20 Dec 2005 12:20:57 PM |
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Judge blocks cultist mythology in public schools |
Now watch the insane cultists spew their occult conspiracy stupidity.
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December 20, 2005
Judge Bars 'Intelligent Design' From Pa. Classes
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- "Intelligent design" cannot be mentioned in biology
classes in a Pennsylvania public school district, a federal judge said
Tuesday, ruling in one of the biggest courtroom clashes on evolution since
the 1925 Scopes trial.
Dover Area School Board members violated the Constitution when they ordered
that its biology curriculum must include the notion that life on Earth was
produced by an unidentified intelligent cause, U.S. District Judge John E.
Jones III said. Several members repeatedly lied to cover their motives even
while professing religious beliefs, he said.
The school board policy, adopted in October 2004, was believed to have been
the first of its kind in the nation.
"The citizens of the Dover area were poorly served by the members of the
Board who voted for the ID Policy," Jones wrote.
The board's attorneys had said members were seeking to improve science
education by exposing students to alternatives to Charles Darwin's theory
that evolution develops through natural selection. Intelligent-design
proponents argue that the theory cannot fully explain the existence of
complex life forms.
The plaintiffs challenging the policy argued that intelligent design
amounts to a secular repackaging of creationism, which the courts have
already ruled cannot be taught in public schools. The judge agreed.
"We find that the secular purposes claimed by the Board amount to a pretext
for the Board's real purpose, which was to promote religion in the public
school classroom," he wrote in his 139-page opinion.
The Dover policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent
design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement said
Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact" and has inexplicable "gaps." It
refers students to an intelligent-design textbook, "Of Pandas and People,"
for more information.
Jones wrote that he wasn't saying the intelligent design concept shouldn't
be studied and discussed, saying its advocates "have bona fide and deeply
held beliefs which drive their scholarly endeavors."
But, he wrote, "our conclusion today is that it is unconstitutional to
teach ID as an alternative to evolution in a public school science
classroom."
The controversy divided the community and galvanized voters to oust eight
incumbent school board members who supported the policy in the Nov. 8
school board election.
Said the judge: "It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so
staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would
time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose
behind the ID Policy."
The board members were replaced by a slate of eight opponents who pledged
to remove intelligent design from the science curriculum.
Eric Rothschild, the lead attorney for the families who challenged the
policy, called the ruling "a real vindication for the parents who had the
courage to stand up and say there was something wrong in their school
district."
Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the Thomas More Law Center
in Ann Arbor, Mich., which represented the school board, did not
immediately return a telephone message seeking comment.
The dispute is the latest chapter in a long-running debate over the
teaching of evolution dating back to the famous 1925 Scopes Monkey Trial,
in which Tennessee biology teacher John T. Scopes was fined $100 for
violating a state law that forbade teaching evolution. The Tennessee
Supreme Court reversed his conviction on a technicality, and the law was
repealed in 1967.
Jones heard arguments in the fall during a six-week trial in which expert
witnesses for each side debated intelligent design's scientific merits.
Other witnesses, including current and former school board members,
disagreed over whether creationism was discussed in board meetings months
before the curriculum change was adopted.
The case is among at least a handful that have focused new attention on the
teaching of evolution in the nation's schools.
Earlier this month, a federal appeals court in Georgia heard arguments over
whether evolution disclaimer stickers placed in a school system's biology
textbooks were unconstitutional. A federal judge in January ordered Cobb
County school officials to immediately remove the stickers, which called
evolution a theory, not a fact.
In November, state education officials in Kansas adopted new classroom
science standards that call the theory of evolution into question.
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| User: "Desertphile" |
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| Title: Re: Judge blocks cultist mythology in public schools |
21 Dec 2005 11:48:14 AM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Now watch the insane cultists spew their occult conspiracy stupidity.
Of course.
December 20, 2005
Judge Bars 'Intelligent Design' From Pa. Classes
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- "Intelligent design" cannot be mentioned in biology
classes in a Pennsylvania public school district, a federal judge said
Tuesday, ruling in one of the biggest courtroom clashes on evolution since
the 1925 Scopes trial.
Yet another example of the incompetence of Associated Press.
"Intelligent design" CAN be mentioned in biology: however, "Intelligent
design" may not and must not be mentioned in biology.
The Dover policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent
design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement said
Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact"
No biologist or other scientists in the evolutionary sciences asserts
Darwin's theory is a fact: evolutionary theor is *NOT* a fact and no
scientist says it is.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Judge blocks cultist mythology in public schools |
21 Dec 2005 01:06:13 PM |
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Hello,
Evolutionary biology assumes it is a fact, so does cladistics, and molecular
biology says it is a fact too.
Its actually quite simple, the assembleges of animals is a collection of
family lines or clades and the familiy lines that died out are failures and
are eliminated (thats me) and others carry on, so over a few generations the
animals contain family lines that are better adapted. However the process
reaches a plataeu and the animals that by chance differ are eliminated. So
the species is stable.
Over a period of time in these stable conditions, a few mutations (a change)
occur and these accumulate. If the environment changes one or two of these
may be better adapted to the new environment. If there is an environmental
gradient from one niche to another then a mutant clade may find an ajacent
niche a more hospitable place because of the new feature they might sport
(like webbed feet).
Chris.
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135187294.446478.278400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Now watch the insane cultists spew their occult conspiracy stupidity.
Of course.
December 20, 2005
Judge Bars 'Intelligent Design' From Pa. Classes
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- "Intelligent design" cannot be mentioned in biology
classes in a Pennsylvania public school district, a federal judge said
Tuesday, ruling in one of the biggest courtroom clashes on evolution
since
the 1925 Scopes trial.
Yet another example of the incompetence of Associated Press.
"Intelligent design" CAN be mentioned in biology: however, "Intelligent
design" may not and must not be mentioned in biology.
The Dover policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent
design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement
said
Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact"
No biologist or other scientists in the evolutionary sciences asserts
Darwin's theory is a fact: evolutionary theor is *NOT* a fact and no
scientist says it is.
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| User: "Desertphile" |
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| Title: Re: Judge blocks cultist mythology in public schools |
21 Dec 2005 08:38:01 PM |
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Chris (no-spam) wrote:
Hello,
Evolutionary biology assumes it is a fact, so does cladistics, and molecular
biology says it is a fact too.
Er, no, not at all. The occult disclaimer that the Dover school board
wanted read in front of their young and ignorant victims (i.e.,
students) says that "Darwin's theory is not a fact:" that is 100%
true---- and no evolutionary scientist says it is. Evolution is a fact:
evolutionary theory is not.
Or in other words, the disclaimer gave the false implication that
scientists believe evolutionary theory is a fact when it is not. That
is yet one more deliberate lie the Dover Creationists tried to deceive
with.
Its actually quite simple, the assembleges of animals is a collection of
family lines or clades and the familiy lines that died out are failures and
are eliminated (thats me) and others carry on, so over a few generations the
animals contain family lines that are better adapted. However the process
reaches a plataeu and the animals that by chance differ are eliminated. So
the species is stable.
Over a period of time in these stable conditions, a few mutations (a change)
occur and these accumulate. If the environment changes one or two of these
may be better adapted to the new environment. If there is an environmental
gradient from one niche to another then a mutant clade may find an ajacent
niche a more hospitable place because of the new feature they might sport
(like webbed feet).
Chris.
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135187294.446478.278400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Now watch the insane cultists spew their occult conspiracy stupidity.
Of course.
December 20, 2005
Judge Bars 'Intelligent Design' From Pa. Classes
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- "Intelligent design" cannot be mentioned in biology
classes in a Pennsylvania public school district, a federal judge said
Tuesday, ruling in one of the biggest courtroom clashes on evolution
since
the 1925 Scopes trial.
Yet another example of the incompetence of Associated Press.
"Intelligent design" CAN be mentioned in biology: however, "Intelligent
design" may not and must not be mentioned in biology.
The Dover policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent
design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement
said Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact"
No biologist or other scientists in the evolutionary sciences asserts
Darwin's theory is a fact: evolutionary theor is *NOT* a fact and no
scientist says it is.
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