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User: "stoney"
Date: 09 Feb 2006 05:47:29 PM
Object: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy]
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/02/09/judge_shelves_case_over_jesus_existence/?rss_id=Boston.com+/+News
Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence
February 9, 2006
ROME (Reuters) - An Italian atheist lost his legal crusade against the
Catholic Church on Thursday when a judge rejected his attempts to sue a
priest for saying that Jesus existed 2,000 years ago, the priest's
lawyer said.
Luigi Cascioli, 72, had argued his hometown priest and former schoolmate
had effectively broken an Italian law meant to protect the public from
being conned.
But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.
The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.
"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."
Cascioli, author of a book called "The Fable of Christ," said the court
had not yet informed him of the ruling. But he was not surprised, and
said he would appeal to Italy's highest court, and then to The Hague.
Asked about the possibility he would be tried for slander, Cascioli
chuckled, saying that to prove he lied, prosecutors would have to prove
that Jesus existed.
"They don't have any proof," he said.
© Copyright 2006 Reuters
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 09 Feb 2006 07:22:55 PM
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/02/09/judge_shelves_case_over_jesus_existence/?rss_id=Boston.com+/+News

Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence

February 9, 2006

ROME (Reuters) - An Italian atheist lost his legal crusade against the
Catholic Church on Thursday when a judge rejected his attempts to sue a
priest for saying that Jesus existed 2,000 years ago, the priest's
lawyer said.

Luigi Cascioli, 72, had argued his hometown priest and former schoolmate
had effectively broken an Italian law meant to protect the public from
being conned.

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

Wimpout!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 10 Feb 2006 05:23:33 PM
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:22:55 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
in alt.atheism


"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/02/09/judge_shelves_case_over_jesus_existence/?rss_id=Boston.com+/+News

Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence

February 9, 2006

ROME (Reuters) - An Italian atheist lost his legal crusade against the
Catholic Church on Thursday when a judge rejected his attempts to sue a
priest for saying that Jesus existed 2,000 years ago, the priest's
lawyer said.

Luigi Cascioli, 72, had argued his hometown priest and former schoolmate
had effectively broken an Italian law meant to protect the public from
being conned.

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.


Wimpout!

Of course.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
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User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 10 Feb 2006 01:42:34 AM
In article <c3lnu1t9gt83obvnc0v75k0p19lek3tfu9@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/02/09/judge_shelves_case
_over_jesus_existence/?rss_id=Boston.com+/+News

Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence

February 9, 2006

ROME (Reuters) - An Italian atheist lost his legal crusade against the
Catholic Church on Thursday when a judge rejected his attempts to sue a
priest for saying that Jesus existed 2,000 years ago, the priest's
lawyer said.

Luigi Cascioli, 72, had argued his hometown priest and former schoolmate
had effectively broken an Italian law meant to protect the public from
being conned.

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.

"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."

Cascioli, author of a book called "The Fable of Christ," said the court
had not yet informed him of the ruling. But he was not surprised, and
said he would appeal to Italy's highest court, and then to The Hague.

Asked about the possibility he would be tried for slander, Cascioli
chuckled, saying that to prove he lied, prosecutors would have to prove
that Jesus existed.

"They don't have any proof," he said.

© Copyright 2006 Reuters

I saw at one point that some lawyer in this case had said that he wasn't
sure that you could say a crime had been committed, even if the atheist
had won his case.
Funny... after amassing enough wealth to choke Bill Gates and exercising
enough political control over a continent to cause humanity untold
misery, if it had been done on the basis of a lie, I would have thought
it would be the biggest bunko bust in the history of humanity.
--
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 10 Feb 2006 05:28:08 PM
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:42:34 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <c3lnu1t9gt83obvnc0v75k0p19lek3tfu9@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/02/09/judge_shelves_case
_over_jesus_existence/?rss_id=Boston.com+/+News

Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence

February 9, 2006

ROME (Reuters) - An Italian atheist lost his legal crusade against the
Catholic Church on Thursday when a judge rejected his attempts to sue a
priest for saying that Jesus existed 2,000 years ago, the priest's
lawyer said.

Luigi Cascioli, 72, had argued his hometown priest and former schoolmate
had effectively broken an Italian law meant to protect the public from
being conned.

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.

"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."

Cascioli, author of a book called "The Fable of Christ," said the court
had not yet informed him of the ruling. But he was not surprised, and
said he would appeal to Italy's highest court, and then to The Hague.

Asked about the possibility he would be tried for slander, Cascioli
chuckled, saying that to prove he lied, prosecutors would have to prove
that Jesus existed.

"They don't have any proof," he said.

© Copyright 2006 Reuters



I saw at one point that some lawyer in this case had said that he wasn't
sure that you could say a crime had been committed, even if the atheist
had won his case.

Yes, you could.

Funny... after amassing enough wealth to choke Bill Gates and exercising
enough political control over a continent to cause humanity untold
misery, if it had been done on the basis of a lie, I would have thought
it would be the biggest bunko bust in the history of humanity.

Yes, but the judges would have been killed if it had been allowed to
continue. They were made "an offer they couldn't refuse."
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.


User: "Liz"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 09 Feb 2006 09:09:15 PM
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:47:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <c3lnu1t9gt83obvnc0v75k0p19lek3tfu9@4ax.com> wrote:

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.
"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."

Is Father Righi admitting that he couldn't produce evidence that Jesus
existed?
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Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 10 Feb 2006 12:35:53 AM
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:47:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <c3lnu1t9gt83obvnc0v75k0p19lek3tfu9@4ax.com> wrote:

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.


"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."


Is Father Righi admitting that he couldn't produce evidence that Jesus
existed?

Oh, not in so many words....
And dammit, the trial wasn't about that. It was about the priest breaking
the law.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 10 Feb 2006 05:25:42 PM
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:35:53 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:fi0ou19kd8n56a4igvjsr3d41aceo0fi87@4ax.com...

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:47:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <c3lnu1t9gt83obvnc0v75k0p19lek3tfu9@4ax.com> wrote:

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.


"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."


Is Father Righi admitting that he couldn't produce evidence that Jesus
existed?


Oh, not in so many words....

And dammit, the trial wasn't about that. It was about the priest breaking
the law.

Yes, but the ramifications of such law breaking was what was feared.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Judge shelves case over Jesus' existence [Italy] 10 Feb 2006 05:24:52 PM
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:09:15 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:47:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <c3lnu1t9gt83obvnc0v75k0p19lek3tfu9@4ax.com> wrote:

But instead of granting Cascioli his request to bring the case to court,
the judge recommended magistrates investigate him for slandering priest
Enrico Righi, Righi's lawyer, Bruno Severo said.

The 76-year-old priest said he was delighted by the news.


"Thank God it's over," Righi told Reuters. "I'm glad it has ended like
this, because imagine if it had gone on and on."


Is Father Righi admitting that he couldn't produce evidence that Jesus
existed?

If he was honest, yes. The court's game playing admits it's well aware
of the problem and is too cowardly to address it.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.



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