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"Katt" |
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28 May 2005 02:03:28 PM |
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'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
Strictly for fun.
I mean, it's not as if anyone *with a mind* cares either way about this
ancient pap...
Katt.
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| User: "Steve Marshall" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
29 May 2005 11:26:47 AM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
Strictly for fun.
I mean, it's not as if anyone *with a mind* cares either way about this
ancient pap...
Oh I don't know. I think it takes a little imagination to believe in such
stories.
Some of the stuff I like is the translation errors which don't get mentioned
much. One of them is the Hebrew word for 'young woman' which got translated
as virgin. Change that and it gives a whole new slant to the tale, doesn't
it ?
Steve M
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
29 May 2005 02:20:15 PM |
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"Steve Marshall" <sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:4299ef6d$0$574$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
Some of the stuff I like is the translation errors which don't get
mentioned
much. One of them is the Hebrew word for 'young woman' which got
translated
as virgin. Change that and it gives a whole new slant to the tale, doesn't
it ?
Indeed! I've seen that one teased out in detail, and it's fascinating. And
it's also quite astonishing that the 'Bible' goes on being discussed by
'religious' people as if such corrections somehow don't need inserting and
facing up to...! Somehow everyone who 'believes' seems quite happy that
highly specific and apparently important elements of their 'faith' have
completely broken free of the documentary basis, such as it is, and are
floating about, quite 'ungrounded', because they're ideas that people find
appealing...! I mean, you can't have it *both ways*....!
I tell you: if I won the lottery or something I'd spend my first million
putting up an absolute *killer* of a web-site: side-by-side translations of
the 'Bible' and assorted 'Apocrypha'; cribbed and redacted texts analysed by
experts; 'Biblical' history and geography examined with maps and charts;
collated source criticism; the *works*... Something *even better* than
www.jesusneverexisted.com
and
www.skepticsannotatedbible.com !!
Katt.
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
29 May 2005 04:17:31 PM |
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Katt wrote:
"Steve Marshall" <sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:4299ef6d$0$574$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
Some of the stuff I like is the translation errors which don't get
mentioned
much. One of them is the Hebrew word for 'young woman' which got
translated
as virgin. Change that and it gives a whole new slant to the tale,
doesn't it ?
Indeed! I've seen that one teased out in detail, and it's fascinating. And
it's also quite astonishing that the 'Bible' goes on being discussed by
'religious' people as if such corrections somehow don't need inserting and
facing up to...! Somehow everyone who 'believes' seems quite happy that
highly specific and apparently important elements of their 'faith' have
completely broken free of the documentary basis, such as it is, and are
floating about, quite 'ungrounded', because they're ideas that people find
appealing...! I mean, you can't have it *both ways*....!
I tell you: if I won the lottery or something I'd spend my first million
putting up an absolute *killer* of a web-site: side-by-side translations
of the 'Bible' and assorted 'Apocrypha'; cribbed and redacted texts
analysed by experts; 'Biblical' history and geography examined with maps
and charts; collated source criticism; the *works*... Something *even
better* than www.jesusneverexisted.com
and
www.skepticsannotatedbible.com !!
Katt.
http://www.labyrinthbooks.com//itemdetail.asp?iid=068832
In Discordance with the Scriptures: American Protestant Battles over
Translating the Bible
by Thuesen, Peter J.
Narrates a fascinating chapter in church history, as American Protestants
belatedly confronted the difficulties of basing ecclesiastical authority on
a sacred text when the very wording of that text had come into question.
Scrupulous scholarship provides a much-needed historical context for the
fiery polemics of clerics who turned the new translations of the Bible into
a battlefield for liberal and conservative factions.
RETAIL PRICE: $45.00
YOUR PRICE: $9.98
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
29 May 2005 10:53:05 PM |
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wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in
news:119kbqqi561fo09@corp.supernews.com:
Katt wrote:
"Steve Marshall" <sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:4299ef6d$0$574$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
Some of the stuff I like is the translation errors which don't get
mentioned
much. One of them is the Hebrew word for 'young woman' which got
translated
as virgin. Change that and it gives a whole new slant to the tale,
doesn't it ?
Indeed! I've seen that one teased out in detail, and it's fascinating.
And it's also quite astonishing that the 'Bible' goes on being
discussed by 'religious' people as if such corrections somehow don't
need inserting and facing up to...! Somehow everyone who 'believes'
seems quite happy that highly specific and apparently important
elements of their 'faith' have completely broken free of the
documentary basis, such as it is, and are floating about, quite
'ungrounded', because they're ideas that people find appealing...! I
mean, you can't have it *both ways*....!
I tell you: if I won the lottery or something I'd spend my first
million putting up an absolute *killer* of a web-site: side-by-side
translations of the 'Bible' and assorted 'Apocrypha'; cribbed and
redacted texts analysed by experts; 'Biblical' history and geography
examined with maps and charts; collated source criticism; the
*works*... Something *even better* than www.jesusneverexisted.com
and
www.skepticsannotatedbible.com !!
Katt.
http://www.labyrinthbooks.com//itemdetail.asp?iid=068832
In Discordance with the Scriptures: American Protestant Battles over
Translating the Bible
by Thuesen, Peter J.
Narrates a fascinating chapter in church history, as American
Protestants belatedly confronted the difficulties of basing
ecclesiastical authority on a sacred text when the very wording of that
text had come into question. Scrupulous scholarship provides a
much-needed historical context for the fiery polemics of clerics who
turned the new translations of the Bible into a battlefield for liberal
and conservative factions.
RETAIL PRICE: $45.00
YOUR PRICE: $9.98
Why do people continue to stress the bible as something wonderful. It is
a collection of campfire stories for ignorant parents and gullible
children. It is amazing that most fundies arguements vanish into
nothingness without the bible. Critical thinking requires several sources
for an idea to be even worth consideration yet these bible thumpers take
one source and base all of their beliefs on it. I wonder when, if ever,
the human race will no longer need a god. Maybe if this pope does
something incredibly stupid, then people will see the light and learn to
stand on their own two feet instead of relying on the crutch called God.
It really is rather sad. I wish I had seen the light a decade or two
earlier. I would be in much better shape financially, psychologically,
and physically as well.
If most christians would play a game of "What if there is no God" and
"What if the atheists are Right" for a month or two, I wonder what would
happen. They could also play the game "What if all bibles vanished
tomorrow and one could not recreate it". There is also the game of "What
if evolution is what God used to create man?" Humans are so limiting.
rj
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| User: "Orpheus" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
28 May 2005 03:05:10 PM |
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Hey Katt, didn't you know that the bible is the infallible word for
God. It has no "contradictions". They have all been answered by the
great apologists ;)
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
28 May 2005 03:44:24 PM |
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"Orpheus" <orpheusstar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1117310710.296997.273690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Hey Katt, didn't you know that the bible is the infallible word for
God. It has no "contradictions". They have all been answered by the
great apologists ;)
Gosh! I must have missed that, somehow!
And I'm sure their arguments are just *so completely convincing*...!!
LOL!!
:-)
Katt.
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
28 May 2005 03:50:08 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in news:IK4me.781$s25.252@newsfe1-
win.ntli.net:
"Orpheus" <orpheusstar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1117310710.296997.273690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Hey Katt, didn't you know that the bible is the infallible word for
God. It has no "contradictions". They have all been answered by the
great apologists ;)
Gosh! I must have missed that, somehow!
And I'm sure their arguments are just *so completely convincing*...!!
Their arguments *are* very convincing . . . if you are already convinced.
For some reason, they are less convincing to the skeptic.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
The suspicious mind believes more than it doubts. It believes in a
formidable and ineradicable evil lurking in every person.
-- Eric Hoffer
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
28 May 2005 05:07:41 PM |
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I thought the Q'uran was the infallible word of God.
If I don't think that, I'll be killed.
Islam is a beautiful religion.
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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| Title: Re: 'Just for fun': that list of *Biblibal Contradictions*... |
28 May 2005 05:54:59 PM |
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I thought the Q'uran was the infallible word of God.
If I don't think that, I'll be killed.
Islam is a beautiful religion.
Then you're in for a pickle:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/religious_tolerance/dt13_13-15.html
You're also in for a surprise:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/how_to_keep_the_law/dt06_06-07.html
...ending with:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/how_to_keep_the_law/dt06_08.html
!!!
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