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"Budikka666" |
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05 Mar 2006 03:00:07 PM |
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Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION TO MAKE ONE SMALL TOWN WHERE THERE'S NO
PLACE TO GET ABORTION.
Like there are no towns *exactly* like that already?
And meanwhile, this year, in the world:
half a million or so women will die because of pregnancy. How many of
those could 250 million dollars help?
two million or so children are "aborted" by malaria each year. How
many of those could 250 million dollars help?
half a million or so children are "aborted" by rotavirusa each year.
How many of those could 250 million dollars help?
The St Amor Earthquake abortion took down over 70,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped in earthquake early warning, safe
homes and post-quake rescue and medical attention?
The St. Stephen's Tsumani abortion took down ~200,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped through tsunami warning systems
and shelters?
Every day, 40,000 chidlren die from malnutrition and disease. How many
of those could 250 million dollars help?
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
Budikka
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
05 Mar 2006 09:55:03 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1141592406.997355.269000@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION TO MAKE ONE SMALL TOWN WHERE THERE'S NO
PLACE TO GET ABORTION.
Like there are no towns *exactly* like that already?
And meanwhile, this year, in the world:
half a million or so women will die because of pregnancy. How many of
those could 250 million dollars help?
two million or so children are "aborted" by malaria each year. How
many of those could 250 million dollars help?
half a million or so children are "aborted" by rotavirusa each year.
How many of those could 250 million dollars help?
The St Amor Earthquake abortion took down over 70,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped in earthquake early warning, safe
homes and post-quake rescue and medical attention?
The St. Stephen's Tsumani abortion took down ~200,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped through tsunami warning systems
and shelters?
Every day, 40,000 chidlren die from malnutrition and disease. How many
of those could 250 million dollars help?
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
Budikka
So your answer to all these examples you cited is to kill as many pre-born
children as women find inconvenient, and somehow blame the Catholics for all
the natural catastrophes. No wonder most of the world considers atheists as
nuts.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
06 Mar 2006 01:58:26 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:6fmdnbda78E1L5bZRVn-uA@giganews.com:
So your answer to all these examples you cited is to kill as many
pre-born children as women find inconvenient, and somehow blame the
Catholics for all the natural catastrophes. No wonder most of the world
considers atheists as nuts.
Pre-born... yeah right, just like an acorn is an oak tree...
So what does that make spermatozoa and ova, numbnuts, pre-pre-born?
Better not jerk off and *****, ***** for brains, that'd be pre-pre genocide,
fuckwit.
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
06 Mar 2006 04:28:14 AM |
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J Young wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1141592406.997355.269000@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION TO MAKE ONE SMALL TOWN WHERE THERE'S NO
PLACE TO GET ABORTION.
Like there are no towns *exactly* like that already?
And meanwhile, this year, in the world:
half a million or so women will die because of pregnancy. How many of
those could 250 million dollars help?
two million or so children are "aborted" by malaria each year. How
many of those could 250 million dollars help?
half a million or so children are "aborted" by rotavirusa each year.
How many of those could 250 million dollars help?
The St Amor Earthquake abortion took down over 70,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped in earthquake early warning, safe
homes and post-quake rescue and medical attention?
The St. Stephen's Tsumani abortion took down ~200,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped through tsunami warning systems
and shelters?
Every day, 40,000 chidlren die from malnutrition and disease. How many
of those could 250 million dollars help?
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
Budikka
So your answer to all these examples you cited is to kill as many pre-born
children as women find inconvenient, and somehow blame the Catholics for all
the natural catastrophes. No wonder most of the world considers atheists as
nuts.
So *your* god *didn't* create nature? Interesting.
But what's more interesting is that you finally dug up some more
pseudo-guts to respond to me, you cowardly, snivelling, lying,
hypocritical misogynistic piece of pigshit. Too bad you're not worth
discussing this with. If you manage to also dig up some brains with
the intellect intact, then get back to me and I might give you the time
of day if I think you deserve it.
Because all your hatred is going to do is make abortion illegal. It
*isn't* in any way shape or form going to stop babies dying. But
you're too fundamentally stupid to grasp that.
Have you ever read the Bible to see how this fictional god of yours
*actually treats children*? Obviously not, because if you did, you'd
learn about the 42 children that were mauled by two bears sent by god
(2Ki 2:24) for no other crime than making fun of a bald man (this is
the same god who later tried to tell us to turn the other cheek).
This is the same god who warned "...And woe unto them that are with
child, and to them that give suck in those days" (Mat 24:19)
This is the same god who allowed pregnant women to be ripped up in 2Ki
15:16, allowed infants to be dashed in pieces and their women with
child to be ripped up in Hos 13:16.
This is the same god who concluded that doing unto others as you would
be done by meant visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the
children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the
fourth generation." Innocent children who had done nothing and were
not even born at that point.
This is the same god who (according to your abysmally juvenile
mythology) created all of this - everything that was, is, and ever will
be. The same god who could have prevented all unwanted pregnancies by
a simple design change that could have rendered a woman utterly
incapable of conception unless both she and her partner were deeply in
love with each other. The conception would then have been the marriage
ceremony.
This is the same god who, if he existed, could stop abortion right now,
but is either too stupid, too non-existent, or too uncaring to lift a
finger. What are **YOU** doing about *that*?
There's one thing J Young and ilk are desperately quiet about: the
number of deaths god perpetrates with regard to miscarriage and
childbirth in general:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/having_a_baby/pregnancy_miscarriage.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4419161.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4103884.stm
"One woman dies in pregnancy or childbirth and 20 children under five
die every minute across the world...the annual toll of 11 million
deaths includes more than four million newborns who die before they are
a month old, but not some 3.3 million stillbirths every year."
So, let's talk about how many this god kills via the diseases he
created, shall we?
Hunger and related illnesses kill **SIX MILLION CHILDREN EVERY YEAR**.
These are all preventable deaths which have nothing to do with which
side of the pro-choice so-called pro-life fence you sit on. They have
nothing to do with whether the fetus is viable or sentient. These are
real live post-partum children. J Young and ilk are desperately quiet
about that, too.
This is the same god who could have made men equally capable of
carrying and feeding a child, but who chose, for reasons which will
ever be a complete mystery, not to do so. Rape would pretty much
disappear if men could become pregnant from it with equal or greater
likelihood. But apparently this creator designer, who had all eternity
in which to work and infinite resources upon which to call, couldn't
figure any of this out. Which is why there is no god. Either that or
this god is the most abysmally retarded creator in creation.
I find it hilarious ironic that for all your unsupported blather, you
don't want to prevent abortion. If you did, you'd approach it
differently.
No, siree, what *YOU* want to do is simply make it illegal. It won't
save any lives. Almost half of abortions worldwide are "illegal".
Almost **HALF A MILLION WOMEN EVERY YEAR DIE BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY**.
~13% of these are from illegal abortions. What do *you* care about
*them*?
Now what, exactly, does your god say about abortion? Here's what your
god has to say about abortion: " "
That's right, N-O-T-H-I-N-G
Check it out for yourself:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_biblh.htm
Not long ago, you asked, "Can you think of any other American "right"
that requires the murder of "another innocent life?".
Indeed I can. Your president thinks that the US "right" to squander
oil is worth at least 30,000 lives.
Only 3% of worldwide abortions are in the USA. What are you doing
about the literally millions of children who die - post partum -
throughout the world? What **CHOICE** do they have?
Almost exactly half of all pregnancies are unintended despite over 90%
of couples using contraception. Is this the best your god could do?
Over half the women who get pregnant unintentionally are using
contraception. Is this the best your god could do?
The bulk of unintended pregnancy is among dark-skinned women, poor
women and teenagers. Is this the best your god could do?
At least 13% of pregnancies are aborted by god (if you believe) or by
nature (if you don't). What are you doing about *that*?
The USA is overwhelmingly religious, so how do you explain that it's
among the highest in abortions in all developed nations? Clearly the
ones who are aborting are not atheists but believers.
As Anderson Cooper reported in his blog;
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/
"It is in [northern Uganda, Africa] that a rebel force -- the Lord's
Resistance Army, which claims to base its principles on the Ten
Commandments -- has waged a protracted 20-year war against the Ugandan
government. The army is led by Joseph Kony, a 43-year-old so-called
"Disciple," who is as elusive as he is mysterious. His modus operandi
is to kidnap children from villages at night and indoctrinate them into
his group. Reports from victims suggest he physically and mentally
abuses them into submission. The United Nations says more than 30,000
children have been kidnapped in the last 10 years alone.
"In a bid to escape danger over the past three years, every young
child in every village surrounding Gulu makes a nightly trek from their
village homes to the relative comfort of the town. The locals call them
the "night commuters."
"They're given shelter at several locations in Gulu -- a canvas roof;
a cold, hard floor; and if they're lucky, a blanket. No food, no water,
no showers are available. But at least they get to become kids again,
knowing Joseph Kony would not attack the well-fortified town. In the
morning, they get up and proceed to make the long commute back home,
just lucky to be alive.
"Those who are kidnapped by Kony's army live a life of horror. While
reporting this story, we met Alice, a 19-year-old girl who recently
managed to escape after eight years in captivity. She told me blood
chilling stories of events no child deserves to witness. She spoke of
how the group she was in was made to kill a child who tried to escape
by biting him to death, of how she was made to cut up and cook the body
of a village chief killed by the rebels and forced to eat the meat from
his body, and of how she was raped and eventually had a child from the
man who defiled her. She showed us the physical scars of her time as a
child soldier -- bullet holes on her leg and shrapnel wounds on her
chest.
"The International Criminal Court has issued a warrant of arrest for
Joseph Kony. Nonetheless, he's able to operate with relative impunity
throughout the northern part of Uganda. As long as he's alive and
leading his ragtag group of rebels, no child in northern Uganda will
ever be safe."
What are so-called right-to-lifeers doing about *that*?
Budikika
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
06 Mar 2006 04:33:03 AM |
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J Young wrote:
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So your answer to all these examples you cited is to kill as many pre-born
children as women find inconvenient, and somehow blame the Catholics for all
the natural catastrophes. No wonder most of the world considers atheists as
nuts.
An American Redneck saying he knows something about The Rest of The
World(tm)? Go back to your priest's *****, you inbred moron.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Department of Telepropaganda
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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05 Mar 2006 10:01:27 PM |
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:55:03 -0500, J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1141592406.997355.269000@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION TO MAKE ONE SMALL TOWN WHERE THERE'S NO
PLACE TO GET ABORTION.
Like there are no towns *exactly* like that already?
And meanwhile, this year, in the world:
half a million or so women will die because of pregnancy. How many of
those could 250 million dollars help?
two million or so children are "aborted" by malaria each year. How
many of those could 250 million dollars help?
half a million or so children are "aborted" by rotavirusa each year.
How many of those could 250 million dollars help?
The St Amor Earthquake abortion took down over 70,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped in earthquake early warning, safe
homes and post-quake rescue and medical attention?
The St. Stephen's Tsumani abortion took down ~200,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped through tsunami warning systems
and shelters?
Every day, 40,000 chidlren die from malnutrition and disease. How many
of those could 250 million dollars help?
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
Budikka
So your answer to all these examples you cited is to kill as many pre-born
children as women find inconvenient, and somehow blame the Catholics for all
the natural catastrophes. No wonder most of the world considers atheists as
nuts.
How the ***** did you reach that insane conclusion?
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
06 Mar 2006 12:40:00 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:01:27 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:55:03 -0500, J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1141592406.997355.269000@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION TO MAKE ONE SMALL TOWN WHERE THERE'S NO
PLACE TO GET ABORTION.
Like there are no towns *exactly* like that already?
And meanwhile, this year, in the world:
half a million or so women will die because of pregnancy. How many of
those could 250 million dollars help?
two million or so children are "aborted" by malaria each year. How
many of those could 250 million dollars help?
half a million or so children are "aborted" by rotavirusa each year.
How many of those could 250 million dollars help?
The St Amor Earthquake abortion took down over 70,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped in earthquake early warning, safe
homes and post-quake rescue and medical attention?
The St. Stephen's Tsumani abortion took down ~200,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood. How many of those
could 250 million dollars have helped through tsunami warning systems
and shelters?
Every day, 40,000 chidlren die from malnutrition and disease. How many
of those could 250 million dollars help?
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
Budikka
So your answer to all these examples you cited is to kill as many pre-born
children as women find inconvenient, and somehow blame the Catholics for all
the natural catastrophes. No wonder most of the world considers atheists as
nuts.
How the ***** did you reach that insane conclusion?
It comes naturally to him.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Craig Orr" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
05 Mar 2006 05:59:06 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
According to the article, the town will be 25 miles east of Naples.
If I am not mistaken, 25 miles east of Naples is in the Everglades.
They will need the entire $250 million just for flood abatement. I
don't suppose they did an environmental impact study either.
--
Craig
"Here, Mr. Socrates, drink this hemlock tea.
It's an all-natural herbal supplement."
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
05 Mar 2006 09:29:51 PM |
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In alt.atheism On 5 Mar 2006 13:00:07 -0800, "Budikka666"
<budikka1@netscape.net> let us all know that:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
....
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
It's his money--if he wants to ***** it away on his silly myth,
then let him.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Just How Pathetic Are the Catholics? |
06 Mar 2006 04:00:33 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:29:51 -0600, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
- Refer: <94bn02ht123ml60av1h6f9oftq6pim3f70@4ax.com>
In alt.atheism On 5 Mar 2006 13:00:07 -0800, "Budikka666"
<budikka1@netscape.net> let us all know that:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html
"If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town
being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman
Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or
birth control. The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at
least $250 million and calls it "God's will.""
...
Thomas Monaghan isn't a hero. He doesn't *really* care about saving
lives. He's a stupid religious ***** who cares only about blind
addiction to a myth.
It's his money--if he wants to ***** it away on his silly myth,
then let him.
As long as he does not claim tax exemption for any part of it.
That makes it someone else's money.
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