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User: "johac"
Date: 29 Mar 2006 01:42:55 AM
Object: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State
Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.
BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City. Many of
the other kids, including my friends were of Italian-American descent.
Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I know that gesture, with the hand
under the chin. It was considered extremely rude, offensive, and
obscene. It meant roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out
of here. I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.
Class act Scalia!
---
'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'
By E&P Staff
Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM
NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.
A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes
to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say to those
people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture, flicking his hand
under his chin," the Herald reported. He explained, "That's Sicilian."
A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.
The Herald today called it "conduct unbecoming a 20-year veteran of the
countrys highest court - and just feet from the Mother Churchs altar."
Later Monday, however, the Associated Press reported that Scalia had
merely used an Italian hand gesture. "It was a hand off the chin gesture
that was meant to be dismissive," Supreme Court spokeswoman Kathy Arberg
said.
According to AP: "The sign he used in Boston is frequently used by
Italians to express displeasure with someone - from mild to deep
irritation. It is done by cupping the hand under the chin and flicking
the fingers like a backward wave."
The controversy came on the same day that Newsweek reported on a tape
recording of a March 8 lecture by Justice Scalia in which he ridiculed
legal claims by detainees of Guantanamo Bay as "crazy." The Supreme
Court is now hearing a challenge to the legality of special military
tribunals for suspects held at the U.S. prison camp in Cuba.
"War is war, and it has never been the case that when you captured a
combatant you have to give them a jury trial in your civil courts,"
Judge Scalia said, during the talk at the University of Freiburg in
Switzerland, according to Newsweek. "Foreigners, in foreign countries,
have no rights under the American Constitution... Nobody has ever
thought otherwise."
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User: "Carl Kaufmann"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 29 Mar 2006 03:11:58 PM
johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City. Many of
the other kids, including my friends were of Italian-American descent.
Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I know that gesture, with the hand
under the chin. It was considered extremely rude, offensive, and
obscene. It meant roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out
of here. I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes
to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say to those
people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture, flicking his hand
under his chin," the Herald reported. He explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.

This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the press.
<lossy compression>
Carl
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User: ""

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 02 Apr 2006 01:22:02 PM
Carl Kaufmann wrote:

johac wrote:


'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'


A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the press.

The FOXnews is guarding the henhouse.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 30 Mar 2006 12:10:57 AM
In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City. Many of
the other kids, including my friends were of Italian-American descent.
Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I know that gesture, with the hand
under the chin. It was considered extremely rude, offensive, and
obscene. It meant roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out
of here. I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes
to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say to those
people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture, flicking his hand
under his chin," the Herald reported. He explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the press.

Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.


<lossy compression>

Carl

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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 02 Apr 2006 12:49:52 PM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:10:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City. Many of
the other kids, including my friends were of Italian-American descent.
Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I know that gesture, with the hand
under the chin. It was considered extremely rude, offensive, and
obscene. It meant roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out
of here. I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes
to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say to those
people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture, flicking his hand
under his chin," the Herald reported. He explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.

He's indicated at different times and in different ways you can kiss all
that goodbye.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 02 Apr 2006 02:53:37 PM
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 10:49:52 -0700, in alt.atheism
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
<pk3032t8nuoq6cpk7vis6i3nm7qg2ph81r@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:10:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City. Many of
the other kids, including my friends were of Italian-American descent.
Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I know that gesture, with the hand
under the chin. It was considered extremely rude, offensive, and
obscene. It meant roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out
of here. I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes
to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say to those
people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture, flicking his hand
under his chin," the Herald reported. He explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.


He's indicated at different times and in different ways you can kiss all
that goodbye.

Too bad Congress doesn't have the moral decency to impeach Scalia.
Gutless fools.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 12:07:18 PM
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:53:37 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 10:49:52 -0700, in alt.atheism
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
<pk3032t8nuoq6cpk7vis6i3nm7qg2ph81r@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:10:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City. Many of
the other kids, including my friends were of Italian-American descent.
Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I know that gesture, with the hand
under the chin. It was considered extremely rude, offensive, and
obscene. It meant roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out
of here. I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it comes
to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say to those
people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture, flicking his hand
under his chin," the Herald reported. He explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's newspaper,
caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the photographer,
the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.


He's indicated at different times and in different ways you can kiss all
that goodbye.


Too bad Congress doesn't have the moral decency to impeach Scalia.
Gutless fools.

Amoral fools with no spine.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.



User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 30 Mar 2006 07:10:36 AM
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City.
Many of the other kids, including my friends were of
Italian-American descent. Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I
know that gesture, with the hand under the chin. It was considered
extremely rude, offensive, and obscene. It meant roughly the same
thing as F--- you or get the f--- out of here. I know if I made it
to another kid, I would have had a fight on my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it
comes to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say
to those people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture,
flicking his hand under his chin," the Herald reported. He
explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the
photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the
press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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140,000 American soldiers out of Iraq to attack a nuclear-armed nominal
ally to capture a figurehead dialysis patient whom Harry Reid already
thinks is dead."
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User: "Carl Kaufmann"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 30 Mar 2006 10:38:17 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:


johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City.
Many of the other kids, including my friends were of
Italian-American descent. Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I
know that gesture, with the hand under the chin. It was considered
extremely rude, offensive, and obscene. It meant roughly the same
thing as F--- you or get the f--- out of here. I know if I made it
to another kid, I would have had a fight on my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it
comes to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say
to those people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture,
flicking his hand under his chin," the Herald reported. He
explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the
photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the
press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.



Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?

He's free to speak and make gestures, and the press is free to report it.
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 30 Mar 2006 11:51:28 PM
In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City.
Many of the other kids, including my friends were of
Italian-American descent. Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I
know that gesture, with the hand under the chin. It was considered
extremely rude, offensive, and obscene. It meant roughly the same
thing as F--- you or get the f--- out of here. I know if I made it
to another kid, I would have had a fight on my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in responding to a
question from a reporter, according to Monday's Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had asked
Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality when it
comes to issues separating church and state. "You know what I say
to those people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene gesture,
flicking his hand under his chin," the Herald reported. He
explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told the
photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the
press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a lot
of other things.


Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?

I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the constitution
too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for those who don't
agree with him, but the press also has the right to report it.
BTW they did publish it:
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#114372925437010
648
or
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 02 Apr 2006 12:56:27 PM
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:

[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the constitution
too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for those who don't
agree with him, but the press also has the right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#114372925437010
648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848

Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 12:30:37 AM
In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the constitution
too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for those who don't
agree with him, but the press also has the right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#114372925437010
648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'

It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people in
general.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 12:06:13 PM
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:30:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the constitution
too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for those who don't
agree with him, but the press also has the right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#114372925437010
648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people in
general.

'Think?'
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 05 Apr 2006 12:15:20 AM
In article <cr9532t78dg882qn1okm8f4oq8dpg8c38p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:30:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the constitution
too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for those who don't
agree with him, but the press also has the right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#114372925437010
648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people in
general.


'Think?'

Believe they think.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 06 Apr 2006 11:31:08 AM
On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:15:20 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <cr9532t78dg882qn1okm8f4oq8dpg8c38p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:30:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the constitution
too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for those who don't
agree with him, but the press also has the right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#114372925437010
648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people in
general.


'Think?'


Believe they think.

when they actually stink
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.



User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 08:58:25 AM
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for
those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the right to
report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people
in general.

No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 05:47:24 PM
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for
those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the right to
report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people
in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.

Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 06:14:05 PM
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for
those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the right
to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people
in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?

He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 04 Apr 2006 07:54:45 PM
On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for
those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the right
to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American people
in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?

Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his oath
to uphold the constitution.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 05 Apr 2006 07:12:27 AM
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:685632pp2ic6ksipa92jnmigduavaoh167@4ax.com:

On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt
for those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the
right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his
oath to uphold the constitution.

Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to uphold
the constitution?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 05 Apr 2006 06:21:27 PM
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979C5390B7EF2fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:685632pp2ic6ksipa92jnmigduavaoh167@4ax.com:

On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt
for those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the
right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his
oath to uphold the constitution.


Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to uphold
the constitution?

Let's start with his refusal to recuse himself in cases where he has a
conflict of interest.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 05 Apr 2006 07:37:02 PM
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:i7k832hefp69sthtjkgilrn9fnrlmqh1pq@4ax.com:

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979C5390B7EF2fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:685632pp2ic6ksipa92jnmigduavaoh167@4ax.com:

On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How
about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt
for those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the
right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his
oath to uphold the constitution.


Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to
uphold the constitution?


Let's start with his refusal to recuse himself in cases where he has a
conflict of interest.

I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires a Supreme Court
justice to recuse himself if he has opinions about a case that comes
before the court.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 05 Apr 2006 10:07:16 PM
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:37:02 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979CD1D31178Bfstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:i7k832hefp69sthtjkgilrn9fnrlmqh1pq@4ax.com:

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979C5390B7EF2fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:685632pp2ic6ksipa92jnmigduavaoh167@4ax.com:

On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How
about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt
for those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the
right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his
oath to uphold the constitution.


Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to
uphold the constitution?


Let's start with his refusal to recuse himself in cases where he has a
conflict of interest.


I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires a Supreme Court
justice to recuse himself if he has opinions about a case that comes
before the court.

I can always rely on conservatives to defend corruption.
Bush v. Gore is an excellent example of Scalia's corruption. The sad
part is that Scalia harmed the Court unnecessarily. The process in place
in Florida would have given Bush the electoral votes.
I wonder if Scalia will be going hunting with the VP again any time
soon?
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 06 Apr 2006 08:29:36 AM
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:o919325lulcq7cpbkcmkv6b7ni2ooun9ao@4ax.com:

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:37:02 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979CD1D31178Bfstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:i7k832hefp69sthtjkgilrn9fnrlmqh1pq@4ax.com:

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979C5390B7EF2fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:685632pp2ic6ksipa92jnmigduavaoh167@4ax.com:

On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How
about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his
contempt for those who don't agree with him, but the press
also has the right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?

articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who
deserve everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of
his oath to uphold the constitution.


Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to
uphold the constitution?


Let's start with his refusal to recuse himself in cases where he has
a conflict of interest.


I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires a Supreme Court
justice to recuse himself if he has opinions about a case that comes
before the court.


I can always rely on conservatives to defend corruption.

Bush v. Gore is an excellent example of Scalia's corruption. The sad
part is that Scalia harmed the Court unnecessarily. The process in
place in Florida would have given Bush the electoral votes.

I wonder if Scalia will be going hunting with the VP again any time
soon?

You still haven't shown any conflict of interest.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
.

User: "Walter Bushell"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 11 Apr 2006 02:38:31 PM
In article <o919325lulcq7cpbkcmkv6b7ni2ooun9ao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:37:02 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979CD1D31178Bfstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979C5390B7EF2fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
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On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
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On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How
about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt
for those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the
right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his
oath to uphold the constitution.


Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to
uphold the constitution?


Let's start with his refusal to recuse himself in cases where he has a
conflict of interest.


I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires a Supreme Court
justice to recuse himself if he has opinions about a case that comes
before the court.


I can always rely on conservatives to defend corruption.

Bush v. Gore is an excellent example of Scalia's corruption. The sad
part is that Scalia harmed the Court unnecessarily. The process in place
in Florida would have given Bush the electoral votes.

I wonder if Scalia will be going hunting with the VP again any time
soon?

Scalia could become a hero, if he shoots the Veep first.
--
Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 12 Apr 2006 12:42:44 AM
In article <proto-4A4797.15383111042006@reader1.panix.com>,
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:

In article <o919325lulcq7cpbkcmkv6b7ni2ooun9ao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:37:02 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979CD1D31178Bfstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:i7k832hefp69sthtjkgilrn9fnrlmqh1pq@4ax.com:

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979C5390B7EF2fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:685632pp2ic6ksipa92jnmigduavaoh167@4ax.com:

On 04 Apr 2006 23:14:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979BCD962FB27fstone69@66.150.105.47>:

Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:6rt532tq60i9rjcbqb5m4ifi70u4epkaik@4ax.com:

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:58:25 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
<Xns979B658DDE241fstone69@81.174.50.80>:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-39F764.22303703042006@news.giganews.com:

In article <l04032tjobram0jv4j4lb8tnt9bvuntu3h@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:51:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:


[]

Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How
about gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt
for those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the
right to report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

11437292543

7010 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=

132848


Gee, the Shrub Junta's full of 'Class Acts.'


It also shows what they think about our laws and the American
people in general.


No, it shows what they think of their classy critics, who deserve
everything they get.


Scalia violated his oath of office. Why is that okay with you?


He swore an oath not to make rude gestures?


Nah, that's just an example of his hypocrisy. I was thinking of his
oath to uphold the constitution.


Sigh. Could you be more specific about how you think he failed to
uphold the constitution?


Let's start with his refusal to recuse himself in cases where he has a
conflict of interest.


I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires a Supreme Court
justice to recuse himself if he has opinions about a case that comes
before the court.


I can always rely on conservatives to defend corruption.

Bush v. Gore is an excellent example of Scalia's corruption. The sad
part is that Scalia harmed the Court unnecessarily. The process in place
in Florida would have given Bush the electoral votes.

I wonder if Scalia will be going hunting with the VP again any time
soon?


Scalia could become a hero, if he shoots the Veep first.

With a little luck, they'd shoot each other.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 31 Mar 2006 09:06:35 AM
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-6F7D0E.21512830032006@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns9796533913E36fstone69@81.174.50.80>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-23C28A.22105729032006@news.giganews.com:

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>,
Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote:

johac wrote:

Thank you for your learned decision, your dishonor.

BTW, I grew up in a working class neighborhood in New York City.
Many of the other kids, including my friends were of
Italian-American descent. Some claimed Sicilian ancestry too. I
know that gesture, with the hand under the chin. It was
considered extremely rude, offensive, and obscene. It meant
roughly the same thing as F--- you or get the f--- out of here.
I know if I made it to another kid, I would have had a fight on
my hands.

Class act Scalia!
---

'Herald' Says Justice Scalia Makes 'Obscene Gesture'

By E&P Staff

Published: March 27, 2006 2:40 PM ET updated 10:00 PM

NEW YORK Emerging from mass in Boston on Sunday, U.S. Supreme
Court Justice Antonin Scalia made an "obscene gesture" in
responding to a question from a reporter, according to Monday's
Boston Herald.

A Herald reporter outside the Cathedral of the Holy Cross had
asked Scalia, 70, if he faces much questioning over impartiality
when it comes to issues separating church and state. "You know
what I say to those people?" Scalia replied, making the "obscene
gesture, flicking his hand under his chin," the Herald reported.
He explained, "That's Sicilian."

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia told
the photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of the
press.


Yep. And Freedom of speech, freedom of belief or non belief, and a
lot of other things.


Does freedom of speech include the speech of judges? How about
gestures?


I suppose that rudeness and bad taste are protected by the
constitution too. Scalia is free to crudely show his contempt for
those who don't agree with him, but the press also has the right to
report it.

BTW they did publish it:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_03_26_atrios_archive.html#

1143729254370

10 648

or

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132848

Yes, and you'll notice that Scalia didn't even try to stop them, now did
he?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The new, 'aggressive' 2006 Democratic platform advocates shifting
140,000 American soldiers out of Iraq to attack a nuclear-armed nominal
ally to capture a figurehead dialysis patient whom Harry Reid already
thinks is dead."
.




User: "Brian E. Clark"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 01 Apr 2006 09:20:14 PM
In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>, Carl Kaufmann
said...

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia
told the photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of
the press.

Sure, just as Bush's job is to defend the Constitution. :)
Scalia knows that his job is to further the ambitions of the
powerful at the expense of the weak. That's why he was chosen.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 02 Apr 2006 12:39:19 AM
In article <MPG.1e990cfc8f72e707989c72@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>, Carl Kaufmann
said...

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia
told the photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of
the press.


Sure, just as Bush's job is to defend the Constitution. :)

Scalia knows that his job is to further the ambitions of the
powerful at the expense of the weak. That's why he was chosen.

Or as I like to put it: 'Take from the needy and give to the greedy'.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Justice Scalia Renders 'Opinion' on Church and State 03 Apr 2006 05:43:31 PM
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:20:14 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in alt.atheism

In article <GICWf.26992$KE1.5538@dukeread02>, Carl Kaufmann
said...

A photographer with The Pilot, the Archdiocese of Boston's
newspaper, caught the moment. "Don't publish that," Scalia
told the photographer, the Herald said.


This from a man who's job includes protecting the freedom of
the press.


Sure, just as Bush's job is to defend the Constitution. :)

Scalia knows that his job is to further the ambitions of the
powerful at the expense of the weak. That's why he was chosen.

So was Roberts and Alito, and Thomas.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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