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User: "D-word"
Date: 14 Dec 2005 04:10:27 PM
Object: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class.
George W. Bush's America.
-----
KU Prof. Treated At Hospital After Beating
Mirecki: Attackers Mentioned Creationism Class
LAWRENCE, Kan. -- The Douglas County Sheriff's Department on Tuesday
was investigating a case in which a professor whose planned course on
creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he derided
Christian conservatives said he was the victim of a roadside beating.
University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki was
treated at a hospital and released Monday.
Tuesday, Mirecki told KMBC by phone that he's finished talking to
reporters. He said, "It's gotten out of hand with the media. Sorry,
gotta go," and then hung up, KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reported.
He did tell the Lawrence Journal-World for a story Tuesday that two
men who beat him were making references to the class that was to be
offered for the first time this spring. Originally called "Special
Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other
Religious Mythologies," the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's
request.
The class was added after the Kansas Board of Education decided to
include more criticism of evolution in science standards for
elementary and secondary students.
Lt. Kari Wempe, spokeswoman for the sheriff's office, said Tuesday
that the investigation continued and no arrests had been made. She
said Mirecki reported he was attacked around 6:40 a.m. Monday on a
rural road south of Lawrence.
"At this point, it's under investigation. It's a reported crime and
we're obligated to investigate it," Wempe said.
Mirecki told the Journal-World he was driving to breakfast when he
noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.
"I didn't know them," Mirecki said, "but I'm sure they knew me."
A recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization
referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course
describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in
their big fat face." Mirecki has apologized for those comments.
"I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up
real close behind," he said. "They got out, and I made the mistake of
getting out."
He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their
fists, and possibly a metal object.
Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital after the attack.
Mirecki told the student newspaper, The University Daily Kansan, that
he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his
injuries included a broken tooth.
"I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he told
the Journal-World.
Wempe said Mirecki described the suspects as two white men between 30
and 40 years of age. One was described as wearing a red visor-like
ball cap and wool gloves. Mirecki said the men left in a large pickup
truck
Sen. Kay O'Connor, a Mirecki critic, said there is no excuse for
someone physically assaulting the professor - regardless of their
politics.
"I have zero tolerance for thugs," she said. "There is never an excuse
to behave in such a manner. This was just thugs. They used a flimsy
excuse, if they had one, to behave as thugs. They can talk about the
ID (intelligent design) course if they want to, but that's not an
excuse."
http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/5475058/detail.html
--
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it’s
just a goddamned piece of paper!" -- G.W. Bush
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 14 Dec 2005 04:25:52 PM
Professor claimed that he was beaten up by fundies.
It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies
D-word wrote:

George W. Bush's America.
-----

KU Prof. Treated At Hospital After Beating
Mirecki: Attackers Mentioned Creationism Class

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- The Douglas County Sheriff's Department on Tuesday
was investigating a case in which a professor whose planned course on
creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he derided
Christian conservatives said he was the victim of a roadside beating.

University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki was
treated at a hospital and released Monday.
Tuesday, Mirecki told KMBC by phone that he's finished talking to
reporters. He said, "It's gotten out of hand with the media. Sorry,
gotta go," and then hung up, KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reported.

He did tell the Lawrence Journal-World for a story Tuesday that two
men who beat him were making references to the class that was to be
offered for the first time this spring. Originally called "Special
Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other
Religious Mythologies," the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's
request.

The class was added after the Kansas Board of Education decided to
include more criticism of evolution in science standards for
elementary and secondary students.

Lt. Kari Wempe, spokeswoman for the sheriff's office, said Tuesday
that the investigation continued and no arrests had been made. She
said Mirecki reported he was attacked around 6:40 a.m. Monday on a
rural road south of Lawrence.

"At this point, it's under investigation. It's a reported crime and
we're obligated to investigate it," Wempe said.

Mirecki told the Journal-World he was driving to breakfast when he
noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

"I didn't know them," Mirecki said, "but I'm sure they knew me."

A recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization
referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course
describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in
their big fat face." Mirecki has apologized for those comments.

"I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up
real close behind," he said. "They got out, and I made the mistake of
getting out."

He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their
fists, and possibly a metal object.

Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital after the attack.

Mirecki told the student newspaper, The University Daily Kansan, that
he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his
injuries included a broken tooth.

"I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he told
the Journal-World.

Wempe said Mirecki described the suspects as two white men between 30
and 40 years of age. One was described as wearing a red visor-like
ball cap and wool gloves. Mirecki said the men left in a large pickup
truck

Sen. Kay O'Connor, a Mirecki critic, said there is no excuse for
someone physically assaulting the professor - regardless of their
politics.

"I have zero tolerance for thugs," she said. "There is never an excuse
to behave in such a manner. This was just thugs. They used a flimsy
excuse, if they had one, to behave as thugs. They can talk about the
ID (intelligent design) course if they want to, but that's not an
excuse."


http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/5475058/detail.html

--
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's
just a goddamned piece of paper!" -- G.W. Bush

.
User: "D-word"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 14 Dec 2005 04:29:35 PM
top-posted:

Professor claimed that he was beaten up by fundies.
It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies

Sure there wasn't....

D-word wrote:

George W. Bush's America.
-----

KU Prof. Treated At Hospital After Beating
Mirecki: Attackers Mentioned Creationism Class

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- The Douglas County Sheriff's Department on Tuesday
was investigating a case in which a professor whose planned course on
creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he derided
Christian conservatives said he was the victim of a roadside beating.

University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki was
treated at a hospital and released Monday.
Tuesday, Mirecki told KMBC by phone that he's finished talking to
reporters. He said, "It's gotten out of hand with the media. Sorry,
gotta go," and then hung up, KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reported.

He did tell the Lawrence Journal-World for a story Tuesday that two
men who beat him were making references to the class that was to be
offered for the first time this spring. Originally called "Special
Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other
Religious Mythologies," the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's
request.

The class was added after the Kansas Board of Education decided to
include more criticism of evolution in science standards for
elementary and secondary students.

Lt. Kari Wempe, spokeswoman for the sheriff's office, said Tuesday
that the investigation continued and no arrests had been made. She
said Mirecki reported he was attacked around 6:40 a.m. Monday on a
rural road south of Lawrence.

"At this point, it's under investigation. It's a reported crime and
we're obligated to investigate it," Wempe said.

Mirecki told the Journal-World he was driving to breakfast when he
noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

"I didn't know them," Mirecki said, "but I'm sure they knew me."

A recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization
referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course
describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in
their big fat face." Mirecki has apologized for those comments.

"I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up
real close behind," he said. "They got out, and I made the mistake of
getting out."

He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their
fists, and possibly a metal object.

Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital after the attack.

Mirecki told the student newspaper, The University Daily Kansan, that
he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his
injuries included a broken tooth.

"I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he told
the Journal-World.

Wempe said Mirecki described the suspects as two white men between 30
and 40 years of age. One was described as wearing a red visor-like
ball cap and wool gloves. Mirecki said the men left in a large pickup
truck

Sen. Kay O'Connor, a Mirecki critic, said there is no excuse for
someone physically assaulting the professor - regardless of their
politics.

"I have zero tolerance for thugs," she said. "There is never an excuse
to behave in such a manner. This was just thugs. They used a flimsy
excuse, if they had one, to behave as thugs. They can talk about the
ID (intelligent design) course if they want to, but that's not an
excuse."


http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/5475058/detail.html

--
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's
just a goddamned piece of paper!" -- G.W. Bush

.
User: "FED UP"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 14 Dec 2005 04:36:15 PM

Sure there wasn't....

Oh....you've evidence ?!
Let's hear it....
Oh I see, nothing.
Actually this is a anti-Christian hate crime to even blame Christains
for this with no proof.
.
User: "D-word"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 14 Dec 2005 04:53:52 PM
FED UP wrote:

Sure there wasn't....


Oh....you've evidence ?!

Let's hear it....

Oh I see, nothing.

Actually this is a anti-Christian hate crime to even blame Christains
for this with no proof.

I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe that fundies did
this. Behavior such as this is difficult to justify in terms of
Christian "values." Denial is a powerful thing, and Christians are
well versed in it. The professor said that he was attacked by two men
who made mention to his class on Creationism Myth, that's good enough
for me. Of course, I'm not a fundy so I'm not in the habit of
rationalizing away good evidence. Logically, the burden of proof lies
with those who have no evidence to support their claim.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 09:48:38 AM
D-word wrote:

FED UP wrote:

Sure there wasn't....


Oh....you've evidence ?!

Let's hear it....

Oh I see, nothing.

Actually this is a anti-Christian hate crime to even blame Christains
for this with no proof.




I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe that fundies did
this. Behavior such as this is difficult to justify in terms of
Christian "values." Denial is a powerful thing, and Christians are
well versed in it. The professor said that he was attacked by two men
who made mention to his class on Creationism Myth, that's good enough
for me. Of course, I'm not a fundy so I'm not in the habit of
rationalizing away good evidence. Logically, the burden of proof lies
with those who have no evidence to support their claim.

No. Your fucking brain is too small to understand that Professor
can lie too, and that whatever come from his mouth is not infaillible
and that just because some loonies claim to be christians don't them
so, and that the beaters might have some issues to settle with
Professor and MAY use
"Class Mythology" as an excuse to distrac,t and that
they might even be atheists. Who knows?
NOW IF YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCES THAT THEY WERE
CHRISTIAN LET US HEAR IT.
.
User: "D-word"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 07:00:07 PM
wrote:

D-word wrote:

FED UP wrote:

Sure there wasn't....


Oh....you've evidence ?!

Let's hear it....

Oh I see, nothing.

Actually this is a anti-Christian hate crime to even blame Christains
for this with no proof.




I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe that fundies did
this. Behavior such as this is difficult to justify in terms of
Christian "values." Denial is a powerful thing, and Christians are
well versed in it. The professor said that he was attacked by two men
who made mention to his class on Creationism Myth, that's good enough
for me. Of course, I'm not a fundy so I'm not in the habit of
rationalizing away good evidence. Logically, the burden of proof lies
with those who have no evidence to support their claim.



No. Your fucking brain is too small to understand that Professor
can lie too, and that whatever come from his mouth is not infaillible
and that just because some loonies claim to be christians don't them
so, and that the beaters might have some issues to settle with
Professor and MAY use
"Class Mythology" as an excuse to distrac,t and that
they might even be atheists. Who knows?
NOW IF YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCES THAT THEY WERE
CHRISTIAN LET US HEAR IT.

I gave it to you, idiot. It's called a "statement," in legal terms.
You on the other hand, have only your own groundless speculation, and
the assertion that the man attacked is "lying."
.





User: "Bull"

Title: Re: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 09:06:15 AM
On 14 Dec 2005 14:25:52 -0800,
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
Professor claimed that he was beaten up by
fundies.It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies
Aliens did it, huh?
__
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 09:50:49 AM
Bull wrote:

On 14 Dec 2005 14:25:52 -0800,
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:


Professor claimed that he was beaten up by
fundies.It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies


Aliens did it, huh?

Nope, atheists did. Just like Nero who burnt Rome and turned around
to accuse the Christians, so it is now.


__

.
User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 10:57:35 AM
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1134661849.779116.261310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Bull wrote:

On 14 Dec 2005 14:25:52 -0800,
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:


Professor claimed that he was beaten up by
fundies.It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies


Aliens did it, huh?


Nope, atheists did. Just like Nero who burnt Rome and turned around
to accuse the Christians, so it is now.



__

you are a fucking lying christain idiot!

--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 04:00:07 PM
I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY! wrote:

<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1134661849.779116.261310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Bull wrote:

On 14 Dec 2005 14:25:52 -0800,
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:


Professor claimed that he was beaten up by
fundies.It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies


Aliens did it, huh?


Nope, atheists did. Just like Nero who burnt Rome and turned around
to accuse the Christians, so it is now.



__

you are a fucking lying christain idiot!

And that too is your fucking opinion, why should I give a damn?
After all aren't you a FUCKING atheist good -for- nothing?

--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.=B2
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.

.
User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 04:27:17 PM
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1134684007.124996.254950@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY! wrote:

<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1134661849.779116.261310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Bull wrote:

On 14 Dec 2005 14:25:52 -0800,
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:


Professor claimed that he was beaten up by
fundies.It is a claim which needs to be proven
There is no evidence they were fundies


Aliens did it, huh?


Nope, atheists did. Just like Nero who burnt Rome and turned around
to accuse the Christians, so it is now.



__

you are a fucking lying christain idiot!

And that too is your fucking opinion, why should I give a damn?
After all aren't you a FUCKING atheist good -for- nothing?
hahaha-from a stupid lying good for nothing bottom of the barrel piece of
***** fundy.
you are just a piece of humman filth-GET THE ***** OUT OF OUR PRISTINE NG
MOTHER FUCKER!

--

--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 04:02:59 PM
I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY! wrote:

--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.=B2
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.

And you would want us to believe that he got some intelligence.
His lack of intelligence makes the dogma unintelligible?
.
User: "D-word"

Title: Re: Kansas Fundies Beat Up Prof for Teaching Religious Mythology Class. 15 Dec 2005 10:26:41 PM
wrote:

I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY! wrote:

--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.=B2
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.


And you would want us to believe that he got some intelligence.
His lack of intelligence makes the dogma unintelligible?

He argues with signatures -- and yet calls Benjamin Franklin
unintelligent. Franklin was a signer of the Declaration of
Independence. Do you think Codebreaker would be a signer if he had
lived at the time?
.







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