David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1110089133.896593.269260@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article

<1110086101.444427.201010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Attila wrote:

On 5 Mar 2005 17:04:40 -0800, "osprey"

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wrote:

Attila wrote:

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:08:09 -0500, "Osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com>

in

alt.abortion with message-id

<5dWdnYbEfPbijLffRVn-vQ@comcast.com>

wrote:

Yes, I do. You have made the affirmative assertion,

that

the

Bible is

fact, and a reasonable accurate history, and thus not a

mythology.

Therefore, it is up to you to prove it.

Actually, the fact that you and so many other atheist use

this

same

old

tired argument shows just how weak your argument is. You

know, as

well as I

know, that you nor any other atheist can not prove that

God

does

not

exist.

I, for one, have never said that.

You know that, and it is frustrating that you nor any

other

atheist

can

prove that after death we don't have a soul that departs

to

another

dimension. You know that.

I know no one has ever been able to prove a soul exists.

I

also

know

it is not necessary to prove a negative, especially when

the

question

is one of existence or not.

The fact that you and so many other atheist will avoid

any

type

of a

situation that places burden of proof on you shows just

how

weak

your

argument is.

I can only speak for myself, but I tend not to make any

claims

I

cannot support except accidentally.

I do not claim there is no god. I do claim no one has

ever

been

able

to produce any objective and unambiguous evidence of the

existence

of

any god.

The same can be said of werewolves, pixies, and (to date)

space

aliens.

When the discussion involves werewolves, pixies, space

aliens,

or

what

ever else..let me know. At this time, this discussion is not

about

the

above mentioned.

I see you ignored the entire section about gods and the

obvious

lack

of evidence. That is what we are talking about.

Because I choose to not get into a argument on gods, evidence

of or

lack of.

<snip>
Can't give barnes any credit for having brains. Numerous times he

is

told there will be no discussion until he can show he is man enough

to

admit to his lies he has told about me and apologize. Yet he

continues

to think ... wait...barnes..think??? no, those two words don't go
together. He continues to try, but has to be reminded.

barnes, you want to discuss an issue? you know what you have to

do.

Admit to your lies and be a man and apologize. We can discuss

issues

from that point on and start a new beginning. Not until then. I am

not

afraid of you, I was prepared to face you numerous times and you

were a

no show. So if you want to show you are not afraid, own up to your
lies, act like an adult, apologize and we can move on. For the

record,

your denial and avoidance to be a man and do the right thing only

shows

you to be the coward.
If you can't do that, keep crying to patty and adam. They are the

only

ones paying you any attention.

Yeah - boy. I'll bet you'd really kick our asses if it wasn't for

that

damn rule that says you can't do so unless we "apologize for our

lies"

first. You know? Damn. I mean - it isn't that you are an ignorant
coward - you could just kick the crap out us. We all really see that
about you. But, damn. That rule - boy. All that intellect of yours
going to waste - all because we aren't willing to say we agree that

you

are right, first. Those rules are there to be followed though - I
understand. Shoot....

Maybe not, we know what the Holy Bible says about homosexuals who are
sexual deviants.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:22-27

V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.

V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature:

V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:8-10

V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,
V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,

SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal
hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away
my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my
heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.
http://www.ArmyofGod.com

...we know what the Holy Bible says about homosexuals...

Maybe not, we know what the Holy Bible says about homosexuals who are
sexual deviants.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:22-27

V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1110089133.896593.269260@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article

<1110086101.444427.201010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Attila wrote:

On 5 Mar 2005 17:04:40 -0800, "osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com> in

alt.abortion with message-id
<1110071080.196412.187160@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

wrote:

Attila wrote:

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:08:09 -0500, "Osprey"

<noneedtoknow@mail.com>

in

alt.abortion with message-id

<5dWdnYbEfPbijLffRVn-vQ@comcast.com>

wrote:

Yes, I do. You have made the affirmative assertion,

that

the

Bible is

fact, and a reasonable accurate history, and thus not a

mythology.

Therefore, it is up to you to prove it.

Actually, the fact that you and so many other atheist use

this

same

old

tired argument shows just how weak your argument is. You

know, as

well as I

know, that you nor any other atheist can not prove that

God

does

not

exist.

I, for one, have never said that.

You know that, and it is frustrating that you nor any

other

atheist

can

prove that after death we don't have a soul that departs

to

another

dimension. You know that.

I know no one has ever been able to prove a soul exists.

I

also

know

it is not necessary to prove a negative, especially when

the

question

is one of existence or not.

The fact that you and so many other atheist will avoid

any

type

of a

situation that places burden of proof on you shows just

how

weak

your

argument is.

I can only speak for myself, but I tend not to make any

claims

I

cannot support except accidentally.

I do not claim there is no god. I do claim no one has

ever

been

able

to produce any objective and unambiguous evidence of the

existence

of

any god.

The same can be said of werewolves, pixies, and (to date)

space

aliens.

When the discussion involves werewolves, pixies, space

aliens,

or

what

ever else..let me know. At this time, this discussion is not

about

the

above mentioned.

I see you ignored the entire section about gods and the

obvious

lack

of evidence. That is what we are talking about.

Because I choose to not get into a argument on gods, evidence

of or

lack of.

<snip>
Can't give barnes any credit for having brains. Numerous times he

is

told there will be no discussion until he can show he is man enough

to

admit to his lies he has told about me and apologize. Yet he

continues

to think ... wait...barnes..think??? no, those two words don't go
together. He continues to try, but has to be reminded.

barnes, you want to discuss an issue? you know what you have to

do.

Admit to your lies and be a man and apologize. We can discuss

issues

from that point on and start a new beginning. Not until then. I am

not

afraid of you, I was prepared to face you numerous times and you

were a

no show. So if you want to show you are not afraid, own up to your
lies, act like an adult, apologize and we can move on. For the

record,

your denial and avoidance to be a man and do the right thing only

shows

you to be the coward.
If you can't do that, keep crying to patty and adam. They are the

only

ones paying you any attention.

Yeah - boy. I'll bet you'd really kick our asses if it wasn't for

that

damn rule that says you can't do so unless we "apologize for our

lies"

first. You know? Damn. I mean - it isn't that you are an ignorant
coward - you could just kick the crap out us. We all really see that
about you. But, damn. That rule - boy. All that intellect of yours
going to waste - all because we aren't willing to say we agree that

you

are right, first. Those rules are there to be followed though - I
understand. Shoot....

Maybe not, we know what the Holy Bible says about homosexuals who are
sexual deviants.