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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "maff"
Date: 20 Dec 2005 03:27:25 PM
Object: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated"
Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated"
http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=kansas_where_ignorant_is_the_new_educate&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Kansas: People say that it's flat. But to me it seems to be going
downhill.
Somewhere right now in Kansas, there is a little child who may grow up
to be a brilliant scientist. She may make fantastic contributions to
science, and future generations may remember her as one of the
brightest intellectual lights of her time. But if so, it will be
despite the public education that she received in Kansas, because today
six dimwits on the state's Board of Education voted to lower the
standards for how science is taught.
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated" 20 Dec 2005 09:39:45 PM
In <1135114044.998906.261200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "maff"
<maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:

Somewhere right now in Kansas, there is a little child who may grow up to
be a brilliant scientist.

Not any more...
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User: ""

Title: Re: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated" 22 Dec 2005 04:16:14 AM
Lawrence officials: School board vote won't change biology classes
By Sophia Maines
Wednesday, November 9, 2005
Lawrence public school officials will stand their ground.
Despite a Kansas State Board of Education vote Tuesday approving
science standards critical of evolution, science and biology classes in
Lawrence public schools won't change, top district officials said.
"I haven't had any indication from the school board that they're
interested in changing our curriculum," Supt. Randy Weseman said.
Some in Lawrence shook their heads at news of the vote. Others voiced
support for the board's conservative majority.
"I think it's good for education because hopefully now we can
actually look at the geologic column and ask the hard questions,"
said Jeff Barclay, administrator of Veritas Christian School, a private
school that is not immediately affected by changes to state standards.
"I would hope now we could actually look at the evidence."
Changes to the standards have raised concerns about Kansas
University's ability to attract qualified faculty and Lawrence public
schools' ability to hire good teachers.
The concerns continue.
"Kansas has become a source of ridicule and scorn by much of the
world, much of the intelligent world," said Craig Martin, KU
professor and chair of the ecology and evolutionary biology department.
"People make jokes about us. That's a subtle form of damage, but
it's damage."
Martin said his department is looking to fill four faculty positions.
He said it's difficult to tell whether qualified candidates even look
at Kansas because of the evolution debate.
"We don't know who is not applying," he said. "We only know who
is applying."
Sue Morgan, a member of the Lawrence school board, said the vote could
deter teaching candidates.
Morgan said she expects the Lawrence school board to discuss the state
board's vote within the next few meetings.
Morgan said she anticipates the board will take an official stance that
it will not change the standards. After the board does that, it may
hear complaints from evolution opponents in the community.
Board member Craig Grant said he strongly opposes changing the
standards to include criticism of evolution.
"It angers me that once again we've become the laughingstock," he
said.
The vote will make things tougher for the business community and those
trying to encourage companies to move into the area, predicted Shirley
Martin-Smith, chairwoman of the board of directors for the Lawrence
Chamber of Commerce.
"It makes Kansans look somewhat less forward thinking than they are,
and that's concerning to me," she said. "I'm very proud of this
state."
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User: "Al"

Title: Re: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated" 20 Dec 2005 03:42:46 PM
There are Kansas school districts who say they will ignore this Board
and teach proper
science, I will bet those will out-number the school districts who
adopt the guide lines.
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User: "ned zacharias"

Title: Re: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated" 20 Dec 2005 04:34:04 PM
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:42:46 -0800, Al wrote:

There are Kansas school districts who say they will ignore this Board
and teach proper
science, I will bet those will out-number the school districts who
adopt the guide lines.

The real problem is the :giggle factor" that these fools have tacked on to
every biological science degree issued in kansas.

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User: "Fluidly Unsure"

Title: Re: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated" 20 Dec 2005 06:47:39 PM
maff wrote:

Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated"
http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=kansas_where_ignorant_is_the_new_educate&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Kansas: People say that it's flat. But to me it seems to be going
downhill.

Somewhere right now in Kansas, there is a little child who may grow up
to be a brilliant scientist. She may make fantastic contributions to
science, and future generations may remember her as one of the
brightest intellectual lights of her time. But if so, it will be
despite the public education that she received in Kansas, because today
six dimwits on the state's Board of Education voted to lower the
standards for how science is taught.

The article you quote also says:
"Well, it is a shame, but really, no great harm done. Really. Science and
technology will continue to advance anyway, no matter how low the standards in
Kansas sink. Students from Kansas will still manage to get into colleges, at
least if the colleges aren't too picky about preparation in science, and at
least some of those students will come to realize how backward their public
educations were, and they'll scramble to compensate. The students who don't will
surely find work in fields other than science. If Kansas becomes scientifically
irrelevant for a while, I'm sure that plenty of other places, inside the U.S.
and out, can pick up the slack."
Then there is the reaction to the pressure caused by being "scientifically
irrelevance". That will give a very pressing warning to parents.
If the issue dies, we can all "give our thanks". The boards vote was probably a
striking blow to the IDists campaign.
In light of the supreme courts ruling today, they were dealt two bad hands in
the same day. What will they fold into themselves? 8^)
--
Liquid
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User: "CreateThis"

Title: Re: Kansas, Where "Ignorant" is the New "Educated" 20 Dec 2005 03:51:36 PM
maff wrote:

Somewhere right now in Kansas, there is a little child who may grow up
to be a brilliant scientist. She may make fantastic contributions to
science, and future generations may remember her as one of the
brightest intellectual lights of her time. But if so,

....she will have moved out of Kansas at a young age, and won't be
inclined to return.
CT
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