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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Date: 06 Sep 2003 10:26:21 AM
Object: Karin Spaink / Free speech / Internet wins, Scientology crooks loses again
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/scientology3.html
Background: http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html
Background: http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot2.html
SCIENTOLOGY CASE VERDICT:
VICTORY FOR FREEDOM OF OPINION
Press release XS4ALL
Diemen, the Netherlands
4 September 2003
The Court of Appeal in The Hague today rejected all of Scientology's
claims in appeal in Scientology's action against XS4ALL, Karin Spaink
and ten other internet providers. The court concluded that Spaink's
publications which quoted from works of Scientology were completely
legal. In this case, the court said, freedom of opinion does not take
second place to enforcement of copyright. 'The (...) texts show that, in
their doctrine and their organization, Scientology et al. do not hesitate
to reject democratic values. From the texts it also follows that one
of the objects of the non-disclosure of the contents of OT II and OT
III ... is to thwart discussion of the doctrine and practices of the
Scientology organization', according to the Court of Appeal.
Scientology therefore cannot invoke copyright in these proceedings in
order to preclude any discussion of the nature of the sect. This means
that there are no grounds for any claim against XS4ALL or other
providers. The court has found against Scientology on all points.
On 5 September 1995 a bailiff, assisted by representatives of the sect,
raided the premises of XS4ALL to seize materials of clients that
Scientology claimed to be in violation of its copyright. The conflict
revolved around the publications of the Fishman Affidavit on the internet.
This testimony used in legal proceedings in the U.S. quotes from
Scientology documents. The sect thereupon instituted exhaustive judicial
proceedings, and each time the court decided in favour of XS4ALL subscriber
Karin Spaink, XS4ALL and the co-defendants. Neither the court in first
instance nor the appellate court found the quotes on the home pages to be
unlawful. In interim injunction proceedings in 1996, the District Court of
The Hague had already declared all Scientology's claims against XS4ALL,
Karin Spaink and other defendants to be unfounded. The court decision in
full proceedings of 9 June 1999 again confirmed this.
However, the decision of the Amsterdam District Court of 9 June 1999
included a separate declaratory judgment stating that providers must take
action if they are made aware of material on their servers that infringes
upon a copyright if 'the correctness of the notification of this fact
cannot be reasonably doubted'. This judgment was grounds for XS4ALL to
initiate appeal proceedings of its own. After all, both providers and
internet users stand to gain from rules that are crystal-clear. Unless
the criteria for removing information from a site are clearly delineated,
commercial interests of providers may all too readily prevail over the
protection of freedom of opinion. In its ruling, the Appellate Court of
The Hague has now set aside this declaratory judgment of the District Court
in Amsterdam.
The decision of 9 June 1999 also made reference to hyperlinks to material
that infringes upon a copyright. According to the decision, if a provider
is aware of this, it must take action against these hyperlinks. XS4ALL
was of the opinion that the court went too far with this. After all, a
hyperlink is merely a road marker on the internet, and according to XS4ALL,
it can therefore never be unlawful. XS4ALL instituted appeal proceedings
against this as well. The Appellate Court in The Hague has now also
set aside this judgment of the District Court in Amsterdam. Moreover, the
District Court ruled that, under certain circumstances, providers may make
known the names and addresses of their subscribers. This judgment, too,
was quashed by the Appellate Court.
XS4ALL is naturally very pleased with the outcome.
You can find more information on this case via:
Verdict 4 September 2003 (pdf):
http://www.xs4all.nl/nieuws/overzicht/arrestscientology.pdf
(The verdict is only available in Dutch at the moment. The English
language translation will be online as soon as possible. We apologise
for the inconvenience.)
Judgement in final appeal of 9 June 1999:
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/verd2eng.html
XS4ALL's pressrelease regarding the final appeal judgement of 9
June 1999: http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/scientology_e.html
Final appeal proceedings of 4 March 1999:
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/scientology2_e.html
Judgement in summary proceedings of 12 March 1996:
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/verd1eng.html
De Volkskrant, 6 September 1995
Scientology seizes xs4all computers
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fvjole/archief/artikelen/Volkskrant/1995/COS.html
De Volkskrant, 8 november 1995
Scientology institutes summary proceedings against providers
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fvjole/archief/artikelen/Volkskrant/1995/cos3.html
---
"I spewed bodily fluids." - Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/
http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp
-- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better
not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything
about my mother! -- Scientology's International President (Audio
files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice
.

User: "Wbarwell"

Title: Re: Karin Spaink / Free speech / Internet wins, Scientology crooks loses again 06 Sep 2003 10:44:55 AM
Fredric L. Rice wrote:

http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/scientology3.html

Background: http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html
Background: http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot2.html

SCIENTOLOGY CASE VERDICT:
VICTORY FOR FREEDOM OF OPINION

Press release XS4ALL
Diemen, the Netherlands

4 September 2003

The Court of Appeal in The Hague today rejected all of Scientology's
claims in appeal in Scientology's action against XS4ALL, Karin Spaink
and ten other internet providers. The court concluded that Spaink's
publications which quoted from works of Scientology were completely
legal. In this case, the court said, freedom of opinion does not take
second place to enforcement of copyright. 'The (...) texts show that, in
their doctrine and their organization, Scientology et al. do not hesitate
to reject democratic values. From the texts it also follows that one
of the objects of the non-disclosure of the contents of OT II and OT
III ... is to thwart discussion of the doctrine and practices of the
Scientology organization', according to the Court of Appeal.

Scientology therefore cannot invoke copyright in these proceedings in
order to preclude any discussion of the nature of the sect. This means
that there are no grounds for any claim against XS4ALL or other
providers. The court has found against Scientology on all points.

Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!
A ray of hope in a world filled with stupid *****.
Scientology does suck! And now its legal forever to ducuss why from a
factual point of view.

On 5 September 1995 a bailiff, assisted by representatives of the sect,
raided the premises of XS4ALL to seize materials of clients that
Scientology claimed to be in violation of its copyright. The conflict
revolved around the publications of the Fishman Affidavit on the internet.

This testimony used in legal proceedings in the U.S. quotes from
Scientology documents. The sect thereupon instituted exhaustive judicial
proceedings, and each time the court decided in favour of XS4ALL
subscriber

Karin Spaink, XS4ALL and the co-defendants. Neither the court in first
instance nor the appellate court found the quotes on the home pages to be
unlawful. In interim injunction proceedings in 1996, the District Court of
The Hague had already declared all Scientology's claims against XS4ALL,
Karin Spaink and other defendants to be unfounded. The court decision in
full proceedings of 9 June 1999 again confirmed this.

However, the decision of the Amsterdam District Court of 9 June 1999
included a separate declaratory judgment stating that providers must take
action if they are made aware of material on their servers that infringes
upon a copyright if 'the correctness of the notification of this fact
cannot be reasonably doubted'. This judgment was grounds for XS4ALL to
initiate appeal proceedings of its own. After all, both providers and
internet users stand to gain from rules that are crystal-clear. Unless
the criteria for removing information from a site are clearly delineated,
commercial interests of providers may all too readily prevail over the
protection of freedom of opinion. In its ruling, the Appellate Court of
The Hague has now set aside this declaratory judgment of the District
Court

in Amsterdam.

The decision of 9 June 1999 also made reference to hyperlinks to material
that infringes upon a copyright. According to the decision, if a provider
is aware of this, it must take action against these hyperlinks. XS4ALL
was of the opinion that the court went too far with this. After all, a
hyperlink is merely a road marker on the internet, and according to
XS4ALL,

it can therefore never be unlawful. XS4ALL instituted appeal proceedings
against this as well. The Appellate Court in The Hague has now also
set aside this judgment of the District Court in Amsterdam. Moreover, the
District Court ruled that, under certain circumstances, providers may make
known the names and addresses of their subscribers. This judgment, too,
was quashed by the Appellate Court.

XS4ALL is naturally very pleased with the outcome.

You can find more information on this case via:

Verdict 4 September 2003 (pdf):
http://www.xs4all.nl/nieuws/overzicht/arrestscientology.pdf
(The verdict is only available in Dutch at the moment. The English
language translation will be online as soon as possible. We apologise
for the inconvenience.)

Judgement in final appeal of 9 June 1999:
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/verd2eng.html

XS4ALL's pressrelease regarding the final appeal judgement of 9
June 1999: http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/scientology_e.html

Final appeal proceedings of 4 March 1999:
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/scientology2_e.html

Judgement in summary proceedings of 12 March 1996:
http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/news/overview/verd1eng.html

De Volkskrant, 6 September 1995
Scientology seizes xs4all computers
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fvjole/archief/artikelen/Volkskrant/1995/COS.html

De Volkskrant, 8 november 1995
Scientology institutes summary proceedings against providers
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fvjole/archief/artikelen/Volkskrant/1995/cos3.html

---
"I spewed bodily fluids." - Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/
http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp
-- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better
not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything
about my mother! -- Scientology's International President (Audio
files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.


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