Religions > Atheism > 'Keats claimed physics destroyed beauty. Keats was being a prat'
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'Keats claimed physics destroyed beauty. Keats was being a prat'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1647777,00.html
Britain produced some of the world's great physicists but few
schoolchildren want to study the subject now. Simon Singh explains why
we should worry
Tuesday November 22, 2005
The Guardian
We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise known
as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis in
which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2.
But instead of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report
showed a dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at
school. The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the
past 15 years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the
next few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers
and a lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in
state schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools.
Simon Singh
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/30a31bf34e188462
Physics
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/569e4ef279eca7c9
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22 Nov 2005 12:23:28 PM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> suddenly spluttered:
'Keats claimed physics destroyed beauty. Keats was being a prat'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1647777,00.html
Britain produced some of the world's great physicists but few
schoolchildren want to study the subject now. Simon Singh explains why
we should worry
Tuesday November 22, 2005
The Guardian
We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise known
as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis in
which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2.
Too much emphasis on vocational subjects (wtff is a vocational 'A'
level for? I thought NVQ level 3 was the equivalent anyway) and league
tables mean that softer subjects are chosen over the pure sciences.
It's a damned sight easier to get an 'A' level in Media Studies,
Drama, Tourism, Sport or <shudder> Business Adminisatration than it is
Physics, Chemistry or Maths because it is virtually impossible to make
those subjects as intellectually challenging.
One thought does occur to me. I don't believe in coincidences,
suddenly, everybody's talking about a fuel crisis, and discussing
whether the only solution might be more nuclear power, and suddenly,
it is noticed that we have a shortage of physicists. Hmmm....
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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22 Nov 2005 06:08:48 AM |
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maff wrote:
But instead of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report
showed a dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at
school. The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the
past 15 years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the
next few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers
and a lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in
state schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools.
Let it be so. The State should not be in the business of running
schools, most of which are illiteracy mills. This is particularly true
in the United States.
I believe in the separation of State and School.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Stanley Friesen" |
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23 Nov 2005 03:22:55 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
But instead of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report
showed a dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at
school. The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the
past 15 years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the
next few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers
and a lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in
state schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools.
Let it be so. The State should not be in the business of running
schools, most of which are illiteracy mills. This is particularly true
in the United States.
Of course Maff wasn't talking about *US* schools, he was talking about
British schools. It seems you have to bring the US into every topic you
post on.
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The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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26 Nov 2005 06:05:18 AM |
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In article <b729o1di67gbomgjhrlo8mhehdtbkmgjka@4ax.com>,
Stanley Friesen <sarima@friesen.net> wrote:
"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
But instead of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report
showed a dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at
school. The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the
past 15 years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the
next few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers
and a lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in
state schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools.
Let it be so. The State should not be in the business of running
schools, most of which are illiteracy mills. This is particularly true
in the United States.
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Right! Don't worry about a shortage of physicists. While the
number of physics students is shrinking rapidly in the US and UK, it
is increasing equally rapid in places like China, Korea, and India.
We will have plenty of physicists in the future.
They just won't be here.
earle
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(The same is true of stem-cell research. Just because it is
outlawed in the US doesn't mean that it has stopped worldwide. In
fact it is a high-priority and well-funded research area in
countries that are not bound up with a theocratic leadership.)
ej
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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26 Nov 2005 01:47:51 PM |
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Earle Jones wrote:
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Right! Don't worry about a shortage of physicists. While the
number of physics students is shrinking rapidly in the US and UK, it
is increasing equally rapid in places like China, Korea, and India.
Numbers do not count as heavily as quality. They were making the same
hysterical judgements back in the days of the "space race". The Soviet
school system was turning out 5 engineers and physicists to our 3.
Guesss who got to the moon first.
That Japanese turn out more engineers per capita than the U.S. does but
they still end up stealing ideas that originate in the U.S. Sheer
numbers does not guarantee creativity and originality.
And before you tell me how South Korea is ahead of us in genetics, the
work has been spearheaded by Americans and Europeans (mostly) because
the regulations in the West on genetics and cloning are so surpressive.
The best university in South Korea has a mediocre genetics departments.
Where do you think the South Korean genetic superstars were trained?
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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26 Nov 2005 06:37:53 PM |
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In article <3ur7d2F12rosbU1@individual.net>,
"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Earle Jones wrote:
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Right! Don't worry about a shortage of physicists. While the
number of physics students is shrinking rapidly in the US and UK, it
is increasing equally rapid in places like China, Korea, and India.
Numbers do not count as heavily as quality. They were making the same
hysterical judgements back in the days of the "space race". The Soviet
school system was turning out 5 engineers and physicists to our 3.
Guesss who got to the moon first.
That Japanese turn out more engineers per capita than the U.S. does but
they still end up stealing ideas that originate in the U.S. Sheer
numbers does not guarantee creativity and originality.
And before you tell me how South Korea is ahead of us in genetics, the
work has been spearheaded by Americans and Europeans (mostly) because
the regulations in the West on genetics and cloning are so surpressive.
The best university in South Korea has a mediocre genetics departments.
Where do you think the South Korean genetic superstars were trained?
Bob Kolker
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Bob: I checked on Korea's number one superstar, the Director of the
lab that cloned human embryos for the first time -- Dr. Hwang,
Woo-Suk.
His complete biography is located at:
http://www.rmte.org/download/final_program_pdf/Speaker_CV_high.pdf
He attended the College of Veterinary Medicine at Seoul National
University (SNU) from '72 through '77, receiving a Bachelor's in
Veterinary Medicine.
He did his graduate work also at Seoul National University,
receiving his MS and PhD (1982) in "Theriogenology" (defined as "a
branch of veterinary medicine concerned with veterinary obstetrics
and with the diseases and physiology of animal reproductive
systems.")
He has won a *long* list of awards and serves on many committees. He
serves a Professor at SNU.
As far as I can tell, his only venture overseas was to spend some
time in northern Japan -- he was a visiting fellow at Hokkaido
University for about a year ('84 - '85).
It is easy to say that our (US) 'quality' is better -- more
creative, etc. They steal 'our' ideas.
I lived in Seoul for about 3 1/2 years working with SNU faculty and
many professionals from several Korean Research organizations.
I also lived in Japan for about 8 years. One of my jobs was to
negotiate patent licenses with Japanese and Korean companies. (That
is where the manufacturer *pays you* for the right to use your
patents.)
Your thinking, I am afraid, comes from post WWII activities when the
Japanese were copying many foreign products (and, BTW, making them
better in the process.)
It's true you can buy a $25 'Rolex' in Seoul today.
Tomorrow you will be able to buy a $25 stem cell.
earle
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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26 Nov 2005 07:20:01 PM |
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Earle Jones wrote:
It's true you can buy a $25 'Rolex' in Seoul today.
Tomorrow you will be able to buy a $25 stem cell.
No doubt. Or we will have a change of administration and policy and
bring back gentics to the U.S.
The Bush administrations have had a chilling effect on research in the
next big growth area. An unfortunate policty, to be sure.
However all this may be, the bulk of genetic technology originates in
North America and Europe. If government make bad policy the scientist
will simply move to where they can do their thing.
The same thing happened back in the 1930's. The Germans drove scientists
out of Europe (many of the Jews) and the U.S. inherited as a gift the
most advanced particle physicists on the planet. Which is why we got an
A-bomb and the Germans did not.
I see a similar thing happening in the field of genetics. We drive it
out or surpress it and it goes elsewhere to flourish. History repeats
itself.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Stephan Schulz" |
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05 Dec 2005 02:13:35 PM |
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In article <3ur7d2F12rosbU1@individual.net>, Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Earle Jones wrote:
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Right! Don't worry about a shortage of physicists. While the
number of physics students is shrinking rapidly in the US and UK, it
is increasing equally rapid in places like China, Korea, and India.
Numbers do not count as heavily as quality. They were making the same
hysterical judgements back in the days of the "space race". The Soviet
school system was turning out 5 engineers and physicists to our 3.
Guesss who got to the moon first.
....and who has reliable access to the ISS now (and at a bargain
rate)...
Stephan
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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05 Dec 2005 02:51:03 PM |
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Stephan Schulz wrote:
...and who has reliable access to the ISS now (and at a bargain
rate)...
That is what happens when politicians manage matters. The space program
was allowed to fall into rot and ruin. Russian hardware is still crap.
They are notarious for poor quality control. Would you buy a Russian
automobile?
Anyway, the point is that the U.S. has -sufficient- human resources to
finance and organize a successful space effort. The total number of
engineers educated in the system does not determine the outcome.
In this country we generally get what we are willing to pay for or
invest in. We have a lot of people doing leading edge work in computer
applications. That is where the buck$$$ are.
I am more impressed by the fact that the Chinese are loosening up in the
area of economic investment and development. No more of those dreadful
Stalinesque five and seven years plans. The Chinese have even discovered
unemployment as a necessary side effect of rapid economic growth. To the
extent that the Chinese adopt free market approaches to that extent they
will be successful. Happily for the Chinese, they have gotten past the
marxist-leninist nonsense and have morphed into a typical authoritarian
thug kleptocracy.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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23 Nov 2005 03:32:41 PM |
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Stanley Friesen wrote:
"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Of course Maff wasn't talking about *US* schools, he was talking about
British schools. It seems you have to bring the US into every topic you
post on.
The U.S. I know about. Britain I know less of. Maybe the Brits can
actually get tax funded illiteracy mills to work. We, in the United
States, cannot.
Public elementary education (so called) in the U.S. is a failure and an
abomination. Why? Becuase it is based on the assumption that all God's
li'l chilluns got brains. In the U.S. it would be best if we separated
State and School.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Bob" |
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22 Nov 2005 06:25:31 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:08:48 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker"
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
But instead of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report
showed a dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at
school. The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the
past 15 years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the
next few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers
and a lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in
state schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools.
Let it be so. The State should not be in the business of running
schools, most of which are illiteracy mills. This is particularly true
in the United States.
I believe in the separation of State and School.
Bob Kolker
wasn't that tried in the 19th century and resulted in the US having
something like a 30% literacy rate?
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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22 Nov 2005 06:38:07 AM |
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Bob wrote:
wasn't that tried in the 19th century and resulted in the US having
something like a 30% literacy rate?
Actually, in the white population the literacy rate was close to ninety
percent. Why? The churches took care of most of the schooling and taught
reading and writing so people could read their bible. The negro
population (particularly in the South) was kept illiterate and ignorant.
In the slave states it was against the law to teach a Negro slave how to
read.
Communities raised funds voluntarily to provide teachers and preachers
for their kids.
This was all pre-Horace Mann. Horace Mann was very impressed by Prussia
and thought the U.S. should have a state funded, state run school system
in which attendence was mandated by law. Just like Prussia. I wonder if
Horace Mann wanted American kids to learn how to click their heels and
pledge allegiance to the Leader. The result is that parents who can not
afford to opt out are required to deliver their children into the hands
of strangers some of whom will bugger their kids. Not a good system.
When the teachers are not abusing their young charges sexually, they are
busy screwing up the kids mentally and philosophically. That is why the
U.S. has a functional illiteracy rate close to forty percent.
I was lucky. I was able to get my kids out of the public school system
early. It cost me a bundle, but it was worth it.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Bob" |
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22 Nov 2005 06:49:07 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:38:07 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker"
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bob wrote:
wasn't that tried in the 19th century and resulted in the US having
something like a 30% literacy rate?
Actually, in the white population the literacy rate was close to ninety
percent.
ah. the white population.
Communities raised funds voluntarily to provide teachers and preachers
for their kids.
This was all pre-Horace Mann. Horace Mann was very impressed by Prussia
and thought the U.S. should have a state funded, state run school system
in which attendence was mandated by law. Just like Prussia. I wonder if
Horace Mann wanted American kids to learn how to click their heels and
pledge allegiance to the Leader. The result is that parents who can not
afford to opt out are required to deliver their children into the hands
of strangers some of whom will bugger their kids. Not a good system.
When the teachers are not abusing their young charges sexually, they are
busy screwing up the kids mentally and philosophically. That is why the
U.S. has a functional illiteracy rate close to forty percent.
yes, let's keep education for the white folk. keep them darkies on the
plantation...
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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22 Nov 2005 07:56:54 AM |
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Bob wrote:
yes, let's keep education for the white folk. keep them darkies on the
plantation...
Better still let parents bear the cost of educating their own children.
No one should pay to educate any one else's child but their own.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Stanley Friesen" |
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23 Nov 2005 03:24:31 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Bob wrote:
yes, let's keep education for the white folk. keep them darkies on the
plantation...
Better still let parents bear the cost of educating their own children.
No one should pay to educate any one else's child but their own.
Same difference. A disproportionate number of blacks are poor, so this
*would* be a case of education mostly for whites.
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The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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23 Nov 2005 03:34:42 PM |
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Stanley Friesen wrote:
Same difference. A disproportionate number of blacks are poor, so this
*would* be a case of education mostly for whites.
Tough nuggies. Life is unfair. Why should I, who am not black, bear the
burden of the hardships of Negritude. I have my problems, they have
theirs. If you want to bleed for your Black Brothers, go cut open a
vein. Leave my circulatory system alone.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Stanley Friesen" |
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24 Nov 2005 02:39:12 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Stanley Friesen wrote:
Same difference. A disproportionate number of blacks are poor, so this
*would* be a case of education mostly for whites.
Tough nuggies. Life is unfair. Why should I, who am not black, bear the
burden of the hardships of Negritude. I have my problems, they have
theirs.
A. Poor, angry people are a source of criminals. So helping them cease
being poor is to my own best advantage.
B. Poor people are a drain on the economy, so helping them earn enough
to actually buy things is to my own advantage.
C. There is this little thing called compassion and caring. It is
rather pleasant.
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The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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24 Nov 2005 03:14:44 PM |
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Stanley Friesen wrote:
A. Poor, angry people are a source of criminals. So helping them cease
being poor is to my own best advantage.
O.K. Use bullets. It is cheaper than welfare.
Bob Kolker
B. Poor people are a drain on the economy, so helping them earn enough
to actually buy things is to my own advantage.
Use bullets. It is cheaper than welfare.
C. There is this little thing called compassion and caring. It is
rather pleasant.
Damn you! I was drinking my morning coffee when a read this. I ought to
charge you for a new keyboard.
Compassion and ten dollars will buy you a train ride from Princeton
Junction to Penn Station.
Bob Kolker
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24 Nov 2005 03:27:41 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3um3nrF11jbfdU5@individual.net...
Stanley Friesen wrote:
A. Poor, angry people are a source of criminals. So helping them cease
being poor is to my own best advantage.
O.K. Use bullets. It is cheaper than welfare.
Bob Kolker
B. Poor people are a drain on the economy, so helping them earn enough
to actually buy things is to my own advantage.
Use bullets. It is cheaper than welfare.
So you claim now that poor people are your enemy and deserve extermination.
Who is the real enemy?
C. There is this little thing called compassion and caring. It is
rather pleasant.
Damn you! I was drinking my morning coffee when a read this. I ought to
charge you for a new keyboard.
Compassion and ten dollars will buy you a train ride from Princeton
Junction to Penn Station.
Compassion is a strongly conserved evolutionary characteristic in humans and
many other mammals. It's the reason mothers nurse and protect their
children.
Bob Kolker
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Zachriel, angel that rules over memory, presides over the planet Jupiter.
http://zachriel.blogspot.com/
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24 Nov 2005 07:50:13 PM |
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Zachriel kirjoitti:
"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3um3nrF11jbfdU5@individual.net...
Stanley Friesen wrote:
B. Poor people are a drain on the economy, so helping them earn enough
to actually buy things is to my own advantage.
Use bullets. It is cheaper than welfare.
So you claim now that poor people are your enemy and deserve extermination.
Who is the real enemy?
C. There is this little thing called compassion and caring. It is
rather pleasant.
Damn you! I was drinking my morning coffee when a read this. I ought to
charge you for a new keyboard.
Compassion and ten dollars will buy you a train ride from Princeton
Junction to Penn Station.
Compassion is a strongly conserved evolutionary characteristic in humans and
many other mammals. It's the reason mothers nurse and protect their
children.
Based on his online persona, I think Kolker is either a sociopath or
for some reason pretends to be one. He is on the side of science and
evolution, but that's all you can say for him.
-- Wakboth
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| User: "Stanley Friesen" |
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25 Nov 2005 05:54:19 AM |
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"Wakboth" <Wakboth2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
Zachriel kirjoitti:
Compassion is a strongly conserved evolutionary characteristic in humans and
many other mammals. It's the reason mothers nurse and protect their
children.
Based on his online persona, I think Kolker is either a sociopath or
for some reason pretends to be one. He is on the side of science and
evolution, but that's all you can say for him.
Is he really? Or does he just find he can (mis)use them to justify his
prejudices?
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The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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25 Nov 2005 02:27:18 PM |
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Stanley Friesen wrote:
Is he really? Or does he just find he can (mis)use them to justify his
prejudices?
Predjuces you say. I came to my conclusions about Islam -after- 9/11. It
was my Pearl Harbor. My wake up call. Postjudice is more like it. Blood
calls for blood. As my father taught me. Don't get mad. Get even.
1. Treat your friends well and protect them.
2. Do right by your customers.
3. Destroy your enemies even unto the second or third order of
consanguinity. That way your grandchildren won't have to fight their
grandchildren.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Stanley Friesen" |
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26 Nov 2005 02:41:25 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Stanley Friesen wrote:
Is he really? Or does he just find he can (mis)use them to justify his
prejudices?
Predjuces you say. I came to my conclusions about Islam -after- 9/11.
It is still a prejudice when you judge individual people you do not know
based on their parentage.
It
was my Pearl Harbor.
Which triggered much prejudice against Japanese-Americans.
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The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
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24 Nov 2005 09:52:18 PM |
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Wakboth wrote:
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Based on his online persona, I think Kolker is either a sociopath or
for some reason pretends to be one. He is on the side of science and
evolution, but that's all you can say for him.
We established, and he declared, that he is a high function Asperger's. Not
all Asperger's lack compassion for other human beings, but he seems to.
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John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
Nihil tam absurdum quod non quidam Philosophi dixerit - Cicero
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: 'Keats claimed physics destroyed beauty. Keats was being a prat' |
25 Nov 2005 01:56:46 AM |
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John Wilkins wrote:
We established, and he declared, that he is a high function Asperger's. Not
all Asperger's lack compassion for other human beings, but he seems to.
I lack it because I got rid of it. It was a conscious decision. Its not
so much that I lack compassion. Its more like I tossed it overboard as a
burden and weakness.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "shane" |
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25 Nov 2005 02:57:24 AM |
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Robert J. Kolker wrote:
John Wilkins wrote:
We established, and he declared, that he is a high function Asperger's. Not
all Asperger's lack compassion for other human beings, but he seems to.
I lack it because I got rid of it. It was a conscious decision. Its not
so much that I lack compassion. Its more like I tossed it overboard as a
burden and weakness.
Bob Kolker
So, did you toss it overboard before or after you reproduced?
Shane
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: 'Keats claimed physics destroyed beauty. Keats was being a prat' |
25 Nov 2005 02:19:12 PM |
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shane wrote:
So, did you toss it overboard before or after you reproduced?
Since. Part of my strategy to protect my children.
Had I been smarter I would have done it earlier.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: 'Keats claimed physics destroyed beauty. Keats was being a prat' |
27 Nov 2005 05:37:01 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:19:12 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker"
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
shane wrote:
So, did you toss it overboard before or after you reproduced?
Since. Part of my strategy to protect my children.
Had I been smarter I would have done it earlier.
Bob Kolker
In your world, once you are gone, your children will be too.
No support system - no support.
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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25 Nov 2005 01:55:24 AM |
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Wakboth wrote:
Based on his online persona, I think Kolker is either a sociopath or
for some reason pretends to be one. He is on the side of science and
evolution, but that's all you can say for him.
I have lived long enough to learn that Goodness is a snare and a
delusion. The world is evil. The survivors are the most successful evil
doers.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Kate " |
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27 Nov 2005 05:36:03 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:55:24 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker"
<nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
Wakboth wrote:
Based on his online persona, I think Kolker is either a sociopath or
for some reason pretends to be one. He is on the side of science and
evolution, but that's all you can say for him.
I have lived long enough to learn that Goodness is a snare and a
delusion. The world is evil. The survivors are the most successful evil
doers.
Bob Kolker
Ultimately a dead end evolutionary wise.
Read Dawkins.
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