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User: "Michelle Malkin"
Date: 09 Jan 2007 09:34:26 PM
Object: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam"
Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Kennedy: "Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam"
In a speech before the National Press Club today, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)
ripped George W. Bush's forthcoming proposal to escalate America's
involvement in Iraq and announced legislation that would neuter Bush's
ability to do that without Congressional approval.
"As the election in November made clear, the vast majority of Americans
oppose the war in Iraq, and an even greater number oppose sending even more
troops to Iraq today," said Kennedy. "The President is Commander-in-Chief,
but in our democracy he is still accountable to the people. Our system of
checks and balances gives Congress - as the elected representatives of the
people - a central role in decisions on war and peace."
Kennedy then announced his legislation which would not cut funding for
active military already in Iraq, but that would require the Congress to vote
before Bush can escalate troop levels in Iraq.
"Today, I am introducing legislation to reclaim the rightful role of
Congress and the people's right to a full voice in the President's plan to
send more troops to Iraq," said the Massachusetts Senator. "Congressman Ed
Markey of Massachusetts will introduce similar legislation in the House of
Representatives. Our bill will say that no additional troops can be sent and
no additional dollars can be spent on such an escalation, unless and until
Congress approves the President's plan."
Kennedy cited Article I, section 8 of the Constitution, saying it gives
Congress the authority to fund all military action and to demand answers and
justification from the White House before it approves funding for any
presidential military initiatives.
"Until now, a rubber stamp Republican Congress has refused to hold the White
House accountable on Iraq. But the November election has dramatically
changed all that," Kennedy said.
The speech then took a dramatic turn, with Kennedy quoting Lyndon B. Johnson
talking with resolve about Vietnam and it sounding remarkably like George W.
Bush today:
"It became clear that if we were prepared to stay the course, we could
help to lay the cornerstone for a diverse and independent Asia. If we
faltered, the forces of chaos would scent victory and decades of strife and
aggression would stretch endlessly before us. The choice was clear. We would
stay the course. And we shall stay the course."
"That is not President Bush speaking. It is President Lyndon Johnson, forty
years ago, ordering a hundred thousand more American soldiers to Vietnam,"
said Kennedy.
"Those comparisons from history resonate painfully in today's debate on
Iraq. In Vietnam, the White House grew increasingly obsessed with victory,
and increasingly divorced from the will of the people and any rational
policy. The Department of Defense kept assuring us that each new escalation
in Vietnam would be the last. Instead, each one led only to the next.
"Echoes of that disaster are all around us today. Iraq is George Bush's
Vietnam."
Kennedy also quoted military leaders who have advised against further troops
in Iraq including General John Abizaid who said, in speaking to the Senate
Armed Services Committee in November, "I believe that more American forces
prevent the Iraqis from doing more and from taking more responsibility for
their own future."
And, as is true with the massive change in priorities taking place in
Washington in just the last week, Kennedy's speech sent the overall message
that the change voted on by the American people in November, will be
realized.
"We campaigned as Democrats in 2006," said Kennedy. "And we must govern as
Democrats in 2007."
posted by Bob Geiger at 1/09/2007 02:06:00
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 10 Jan 2007 12:52:11 AM
In article <3MKdnRcEzf0nwznYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Kennedy: "Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam"
In a speech before the National Press Club today, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)
ripped George W. Bush's forthcoming proposal to escalate America's
involvement in Iraq and announced legislation that would neuter Bush's
ability to do that without Congressional approval.

"As the election in November made clear, the vast majority of Americans
oppose the war in Iraq, and an even greater number oppose sending even more
troops to Iraq today," said Kennedy. "The President is Commander-in-Chief,
but in our democracy he is still accountable to the people. Our system of
checks and balances gives Congress - as the elected representatives of the
people - a central role in decisions on war and peace."

Kennedy then announced his legislation which would not cut funding for
active military already in Iraq, but that would require the Congress to vote
before Bush can escalate troop levels in Iraq.

"Today, I am introducing legislation to reclaim the rightful role of
Congress and the people's right to a full voice in the President's plan to
send more troops to Iraq," said the Massachusetts Senator. "Congressman Ed
Markey of Massachusetts will introduce similar legislation in the House of
Representatives. Our bill will say that no additional troops can be sent and
no additional dollars can be spent on such an escalation, unless and until
Congress approves the President's plan."

Kennedy cited Article I, section 8 of the Constitution, saying it gives
Congress the authority to fund all military action and to demand answers and
justification from the White House before it approves funding for any
presidential military initiatives.

"Until now, a rubber stamp Republican Congress has refused to hold the White
House accountable on Iraq. But the November election has dramatically
changed all that," Kennedy said.

The speech then took a dramatic turn, with Kennedy quoting Lyndon B. Johnson
talking with resolve about Vietnam and it sounding remarkably like George W.
Bush today:

"It became clear that if we were prepared to stay the course, we could
help to lay the cornerstone for a diverse and independent Asia. If we
faltered, the forces of chaos would scent victory and decades of strife and
aggression would stretch endlessly before us. The choice was clear. We would
stay the course. And we shall stay the course."
"That is not President Bush speaking. It is President Lyndon Johnson, forty
years ago, ordering a hundred thousand more American soldiers to Vietnam,"
said Kennedy.

"Those comparisons from history resonate painfully in today's debate on
Iraq. In Vietnam, the White House grew increasingly obsessed with victory,
and increasingly divorced from the will of the people and any rational
policy. The Department of Defense kept assuring us that each new escalation
in Vietnam would be the last. Instead, each one led only to the next.

"Echoes of that disaster are all around us today. Iraq is George Bush's
Vietnam."

Kennedy also quoted military leaders who have advised against further troops
in Iraq including General John Abizaid who said, in speaking to the Senate
Armed Services Committee in November, "I believe that more American forces
prevent the Iraqis from doing more and from taking more responsibility for
their own future."

And, as is true with the massive change in priorities taking place in
Washington in just the last week, Kennedy's speech sent the overall message
that the change voted on by the American people in November, will be
realized.

"We campaigned as Democrats in 2006," said Kennedy. "And we must govern as
Democrats in 2007."
posted by Bob Geiger at 1/09/2007 02:06:00

Great speech! I hope the Democrats follow through with it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 14 Jan 2007 12:20:56 PM
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:52:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <3MKdnRcEzf0nwznYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

[]

"We campaigned as Democrats in 2006," said Kennedy. "And we must govern as
Democrats in 2007."
posted by Bob Geiger at 1/09/2007 02:06:00


Great speech! I hope the Democrats follow through with it.

Pheh! Verba Non Facta.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 15 Jan 2007 01:08:21 AM
In article <u2tkq2da3sq7gfkr4nb9u0cugsm7crad75@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:52:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <3MKdnRcEzf0nwznYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


[]

"We campaigned as Democrats in 2006," said Kennedy. "And we must govern as
Democrats in 2007."
posted by Bob Geiger at 1/09/2007 02:06:00


Great speech! I hope the Democrats follow through with it.


Pheh! Verba Non Facta.

Yes. Whatever did happen to all the impeachment talk?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 15 Jan 2007 08:10:32 PM
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:08:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <u2tkq2da3sq7gfkr4nb9u0cugsm7crad75@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:52:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <3MKdnRcEzf0nwznYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


[]

"We campaigned as Democrats in 2006," said Kennedy. "And we must govern as
Democrats in 2007."
posted by Bob Geiger at 1/09/2007 02:06:00


Great speech! I hope the Democrats follow through with it.


Pheh! Verba Non Facta.


Yes. Whatever did happen to all the impeachment talk?

/demos
what impeachment talk?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 16 Jan 2007 12:18:21 AM
In article <cvcoq2pu0cd8qpu7eh12cjv5cd163upbbu@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:08:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <u2tkq2da3sq7gfkr4nb9u0cugsm7crad75@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:52:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <3MKdnRcEzf0nwznYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


[]

"We campaigned as Democrats in 2006," said Kennedy. "And we must govern
as
Democrats in 2007."
posted by Bob Geiger at 1/09/2007 02:06:00


Great speech! I hope the Democrats follow through with it.


Pheh! Verba Non Facta.


Yes. Whatever did happen to all the impeachment talk?


/demos
what impeachment talk?

/demos
B...b..b...b...but we can't do that! Someone might get mad at us.
/me to dems
Grow a set, dammit!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.





User: ""

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 09 Jan 2007 11:02:15 PM
Michelle Malkin wrote:

Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Kennedy: "Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam"

<snip>


The speech then took a dramatic turn, with Kennedy quoting Lyndon B. Johnson
talking with resolve about Vietnam and it sounding remarkably like George W.
Bush today:

"It became clear that if we were prepared to stay the course, we could
help to lay the cornerstone for a diverse and independent Asia. If we
faltered, the forces of chaos would scent victory and decades of strife and
aggression would stretch endlessly before us. The choice was clear. We would
stay the course. And we shall stay the course."
"That is not President Bush speaking. It is President Lyndon Johnson, forty
years ago, ordering a hundred thousand more American soldiers to Vietnam,"
said Kennedy.

Kennedy could have said Laura Bush had her own Chappaquiddick as
well, but I'm not sure he'd want to bring that up. ^_^
Bob Dog
.
User: "Christopher A.Lee"

Title: Re: Kennedy: "Iraq Is George Bush's Vietnam" 09 Jan 2007 11:07:58 PM
On 9 Jan 2007 21:02:15 -0800,
wrote:

Michelle Malkin wrote:

Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Kennedy: "Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam"

<snip>


The speech then took a dramatic turn, with Kennedy quoting Lyndon B. Johnson
talking with resolve about Vietnam and it sounding remarkably like George W.
Bush today:

"It became clear that if we were prepared to stay the course, we could
help to lay the cornerstone for a diverse and independent Asia. If we
faltered, the forces of chaos would scent victory and decades of strife and
aggression would stretch endlessly before us. The choice was clear. We would
stay the course. And we shall stay the course."
"That is not President Bush speaking. It is President Lyndon Johnson, forty
years ago, ordering a hundred thousand more American soldiers to Vietnam,"
said Kennedy.


Kennedy could have said Laura Bush had her own Chappaquiddick as
well, but I'm not sure he'd want to bring that up. ^_^

Don't you mean "Chap aquitted"?

Bob Dog

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