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"Michelle Malkin" |
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24 Oct 2003 03:36:45 AM |
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Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
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I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
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could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
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| User: "Clayton of Green Gables..Tra la la la la" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 03:43:14 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <> wrote in message
news:01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com...
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Send it to the FBI with details of his activities.
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Ms Malkin:
I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
obstruction of justice as well as undue HARASSMENT of Mr. Pangborn. I
could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 08:31:58 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:43:14 +1000, Clayton of Green Gables..Tra la la la
la wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com...
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Send it to the FBI with details of his activities.
Or don't. They won't accept email complaints. Seriously. I know from
experience. <g>
And why bother them with the lunacy of some fat freak idiot who never
actually *does anything. In all the history of Pangborn, nothing has ever
actually happened to anybody despite the threats and other whining.
Hell, I don't think the man can heave his fat ***** out of the chair in
front of his computer to actually do anything serious...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "Clayton of Green Gables..Tra la la la la" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 08:03:46 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.10.24.13.31.58.632368@eac.org...
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:43:14 +1000, Clayton of Green Gables..Tra la la la
la wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com...
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Send it to the FBI with details of his activities.
Or don't. They won't accept email complaints. Seriously. I know from
experience. <g>
And why bother them with the lunacy of some fat freak idiot who never
actually *does anything. In all the history of Pangborn, nothing has ever
actually happened to anybody despite the threats and other whining.
Hell, I don't think the man can heave his fat ***** out of the chair in
front of his computer to actually do anything serious...
I would just love to see him get some special treatment. What I wouldn't
give to just sit there with a bucket of popcorn and watch it happen.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "freedom" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 07:16:01 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:43:14 +1000, Clayton of Green Gables..Tra la la la
la wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com...
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Send it to the FBI with details of his activities.
Or don't. They won't accept email complaints. Seriously. I know from
experience. <g>
And why bother them with the lunacy of some fat freak idiot who never
actually *does anything. In all the history of Pangborn, nothing has ever
actually happened to anybody despite the threats and other whining.
Hell, I don't think the man can heave his fat ***** out of the chair in
front of his computer to actually do anything serious...
Ken is a person with mental instability. This is obvious from his multiple
personalities alone. Plus he has a criminal record.
He did file a false complaint with Child Protective Services a few years
ago, claiming that I abused my kids. Of course, I had only to show the CPS
person copies of Ken's threats to do exactly that, for the matter to be
closed.....but he's not above attacking and endangering children.
And, if you've made more than one or two posts speaking out against him,
you can rest assured that your ISP's abuse desk has received a few whines
from him. People have had internet accounts pulled because of the sheer
volume of complaints Ken sends, sometimes in the hundreds and usually from
several of his aliases. For this reason, I post through a remailer thus
making it impossible for Ken to know my ISP.
Keep in mind that former clients or prospective clients have come forward
and stated that Ken offered to terrorize their spouses/ex-spouses into
silence. Exercise caution when dealing with Ken.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 09:44:19 AM |
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In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin <> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
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CC:
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This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly threaten
people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
Ms Malkin:
I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
obstruction of justice as well as undue HARASSMENT of Mr. Pangborn. I
could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
Repossess? That assumes the government possessed it at some point in the
first place.
This guy isn't even literate, let alone an FBI agent. And by making this
post, whoever it is has committed a federal felony. Violation of 18 USC
912.
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE - PART I - CRIMES - CHAPTER 43
- FALSE PERSONATION
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting
under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or
officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character
demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both.
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| User: "freedom" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 07:16:00 AM |
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BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin < > wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
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This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly threaten
people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
Ms Malkin:
I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
obstruction of justice as well as undue HARASSMENT of Mr. Pangborn. I
could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
Repossess? That assumes the government possessed it at some point in the
first place.
This guy isn't even literate, let alone an FBI agent. And by making this
post, whoever it is has committed a federal felony. Violation of 18 USC
912.
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE - PART I - CRIMES - CHAPTER 43
- FALSE PERSONATION
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting
under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or
officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character
demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both.
I'm not sure that Ken was demanding anything of value.
Except that Michelle stop making him look like a horse's *****. LOL
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 08:03:42 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:16:00 +0200, freedom wrote:
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In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin < > wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
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CC:
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This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly threaten
people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
Ms Malkin:
I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
obstruction of justice as well as undue HARASSMENT of Mr. Pangborn. I
could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
Repossess? That assumes the government possessed it at some point in the
first place.
This guy isn't even literate, let alone an FBI agent. And by making this
post, whoever it is has committed a federal felony. Violation of 18 USC
912.
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE - PART I - CRIMES - CHAPTER 43
- FALSE PERSONATION
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting
under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or
officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character
demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both.
I'm not sure that Ken was demanding anything of value.
Except that Michelle stop making him look like a horse's *****. LOL
Yeah but there's an "or" in there. As in "pretends to be" and "acts as
such" OR "demands any money" etc.
You can go to jail for just the act of pretending to be...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "Robert Gautier" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 03:41:09 PM |
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BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>...
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin < > wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
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CC:
Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above
address. It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail
services. You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use
PGP !!!
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X-Remailer-Contact: http://80.65.224.85/POL/ In case my abuse address
is unreachable: It is because it has been flooded by <mgg@uiuc.edu>,
please contact <abuse@uiuc.edu>
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly threaten
people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
Ms Malkin:
I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
obstruction of justice as well as undue HARASSMENT of Mr. Pangborn. I
could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
Repossess? That assumes the government possessed it at some point in the
first place.
This guy isn't even literate, let alone an FBI agent. And by making this
post, whoever it is has committed a federal felony. Violation of 18 USC
912.
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE - PART I - CRIMES - CHAPTER 43
- FALSE PERSONATION
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting
under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or
officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character
demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both.
Pangborn is going through "Mental pause".
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Oct 2003 10:55:50 PM |
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On 24 Oct 2003 13:41:09 -0700, (Robert Gautier)
posted in alt.atheism:
Pangborn is going through "Mental pause".
He put his "mental" on "pause" years ago. Then the batteries in the
remote died, so it's still on pause.
--
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
- "Pro-Life" doctor killer and corpse Paul Hill
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Robert Gautier" |
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25 Oct 2003 02:06:28 PM |
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(Kenpangborn) wrote in message news:<20031025104033.07878.00000149@mb-m13.aol.com>...
From: Al Klein rukbat@pern.invalid
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, soc.men, alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general,
milw.general
Pangborn is going through "Mental pause".
He put his "mental" on "pause" years ago. Then the batteries in the
remote died, so it's still on pause.
For whatever limitations I may have mentally, Kleino, at least I can look at
one of those forgeries from an anonymous remailer (now Happy Lobster etc) and
then see the one following it from the SAME remailer condemning me for the
forgery using the claimed "INFALLIBLE PGP Signature" that is seconds behind the
forgery and the VERY NEXT message ID in SEQUENCE and figure out that it was
posted by the SAME idiot who posted the FORGERY. Not exactly rocket Science Al,
but WAY WAY WAY WAY over YOUR intellectual abilities!
Not unless your purpose is to try to claim that your attacks
against yourself were made by Moore,Alexander, Young, Newton or any
one of the other people who have exposed your lies Pangborn. Then
seeing the same remailer used for both things would make sense and it
does. You make anonymous posts then condemn the people who expose you
and blame them for the posts to take the focus off your lies, the most
recent being your slip up as "Kaiserdrvr" kaiserdrvr@cs.com. Your
sequencing issue doesn't mean *****. Posts can pop up in any given
order determined by when the bundle is dispatched.
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| User: "William Klee" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 10:27:19 AM |
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In article <BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin < > wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
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From: "Field Agent Jeffrey Gibbs" <noreply@fbi.gov>
Subject: Your posts
CC:
Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above
address. It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail
services. You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use
PGP !!!
Get information about complaints from the URL below
X-Remailer-Contact: http://80.65.224.85/POL/ In case my abuse address
is unreachable: It is because it has been flooded by <mgg@uiuc.edu>,
please contact <abuse@uiuc.edu>
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly threaten
people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
Ms Malkin:
I have observed your posts about Ken Pangborn on usenet. Mr. Pangborn
is NOT the person making the forgeries. The real culprit is a man
from Bolingbrook, Illinois named David Dennis Moore. We are working
with the US Attorneys office on 19 felony counts against Moore
including the forgeries and threats.
Your posts are interfering with a federal investigaton. CEASE AND
DESIST immediately or my office is going to charge you with
obstruction of justice as well as undue HARASSMENT of Mr. Pangborn. I
could easily dispatch a team of agents from our Philadelphia office to
repossess your computer equipment.
Repossess? That assumes the government possessed it at some point in the
first place.
This guy isn't even literate, let alone an FBI agent. And by making this
post, whoever it is has committed a federal felony. Violation of 18 USC
912.
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE - PART I - CRIMES - CHAPTER 43
- FALSE PERSONATION
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting
under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or
officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character
demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both.
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 10:50:38 AM |
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In article <241020031027198708%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since
posting this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains
information that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it
was sent through a remailer!
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly
threaten people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
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| User: "William Klee" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 01:31:41 PM |
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In article <BTR1702-049F6D.10512824102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031027198708%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since
posting this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not
just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains
information that no agent would give to the general public. And, of
course, it
was sent through a remailer!
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly
threaten people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment
protected
rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
Ken Pangborn, son. You need to keep current on the net-kooks.
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 04:50:16 PM |
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In article <241020031331412422%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-049F6D.10512824102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031027198708%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since
posting this message to me is probably illegal for several
reasons, not
just to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message
not signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains
information that no agent would give to the general public. And,
of course, it was sent through a remailer!
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details
of on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly
threaten people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment
protected rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
Ken Pangborn, son. You need to keep current on the net-kooks.
Actually, no I really don't. I have better things to do than waste time
researching people who post to Usenet.
I just came across this thread, saw the initial message and responded to
it.
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| User: "William Klee" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 11:09:55 PM |
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In article <BTR1702-14DACE.16510524102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031331412422%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-049F6D.10512824102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031027198708%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>, Michelle
Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since
posting this message to me is probably illegal for several
reasons, not
just to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message
not signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains
information that no agent would give to the general public. And,
of course, it was sent through a remailer!
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the details
of on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly
threaten people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment
protected rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
Ken Pangborn, son. You need to keep current on the net-kooks.
Actually, no I really don't. I have better things to do than waste time
researching people who post to Usenet.
I just came across this thread, saw the initial message and responded to
it.
And so I'll repeat the original question:
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 11:38:35 PM |
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In article <241020032309555327%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-14DACE.16510524102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031331412422%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-049F6D.10512824102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031027198708%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article
<BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>,
Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from
KP. He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this,
since posting this message to me is probably illegal for several
reasons, not just to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the
message not signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it
contains information that no agent would give to the general public.
And, of course, it was sent through a remailer!
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the
details of on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it
publicly threaten people with retribution for exercising their 1st
Amendment protected rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
Ken Pangborn, son. You need to keep current on the net-kooks.
Actually, no I really don't. I have better things to do than waste time
researching people who post to Usenet.
I just came across this thread, saw the initial message and responded
to it.
And so I'll repeat the original question:
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
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| User: "William Klee" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 10:55:01 AM |
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In article <BTR1702-F5CC39.23392524102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020032309555327%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-14DACE.16510524102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031331412422%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <BTR1702-049F6D.10512824102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <241020031027198708%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee
<fnord2k@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article
<BTR1702-C09511.09450724102003@news.west.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <01ohpvs7hphpof252bt8052nve1b9qdejl@4ax.com>,
Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> wrote:
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from
KP. He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this,
since posting this message to me is probably illegal for
several
reasons, not just to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not
only is the
message not signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it
contains information that no agent would give to the general
public.
And, of course, it was sent through a remailer!
This person is not an FBI agent. The FBI does not post the
details of on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it
publicly threaten people with retribution for exercising their
1st
Amendment protected rights.
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
Ken Pangborn, son. You need to keep current on the net-kooks.
Actually, no I really don't. I have better things to do than waste time
researching people who post to Usenet.
I just came across this thread, saw the initial message and responded
to it.
And so I'll repeat the original question:
Do you *really* think anyone here thought kennie-boi *was* an FBI
agent, Captain Obvious?
I have no idea who "kennie-boi" is, Lieutenant Slappy.
OK, I'll simplify the question for you a bit, so maybe you'll
understand. Do you *really* think anyone here thought whoever wrote
this laughable original post *was* an FBI agent, Captain Obvious?
Or do I need to be even *more* obvious?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Oct 2003 08:04:52 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:50:16 +0000, BTR1701 wrote:
Actually, no I really don't. I have better things to do than waste time
researching people who post to Usenet.
True so far as it goes but if you really don't want to waste time, knowing
at least the major Kooks around could help you skip over them...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?" |
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25 Oct 2003 04:15:30 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:44:19 GMT, BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
The FBI does not post the details of
on-going investigations on a public forum, nor does it publicly threaten
people with retribution for exercising their 1st Amendment protected
rights.
No yet anyways, though future versions of the 'Patriot' Act might do
just that.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balance' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -340 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 11:39:57 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:36:45 GMT, a stranger
called by some Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Print it out, with headers. Check to see where your nearest FBI field
office is, and *call* them to say you have evidence that some one is
impersonating a federal LEO. That is a felony. The FBI *never*
reveals details of ongoing investigations. They have the muscle to
open up remailers with a warrant, and can get a tap warrant to see if
Kenny is sending out these forgeries.
Based on what I recall, it's about 8-15 years, and a big fine.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
24 Oct 2003 04:53:14 PM |
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In article <ealipvgljva8jq1kfjebhoko5bp72tr04o@4ax.com>, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:36:45 GMT, a stranger
called by some Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Print it out, with headers. Check to see where your nearest FBI field
office is, and *call* them to say you have evidence that some one is
impersonating a federal LEO. That is a felony. The FBI *never*
reveals details of ongoing investigations. They have the muscle to
open up remailers with a warrant,
Only the remailers in the USA and then it only works if the remailers
keep records. A lot of them scrub their records daily just for that
reason. A search warrant doesn't do you much good if there's nothing to
search for.
Based on what I recall, it's about 8-15 years, and a big fine.
Not quite.
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE - PART I - CRIMES - CHAPTER 43
- FALSE PERSONATION
Sec. 912. Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting
under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or
officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character
demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 07:49:06 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:14 +0000, BTR1701 wrote:
Only the remailers in the USA and then it only works if the remailers
keep records. A lot of them scrub their records daily just for that
reason. A search warrant doesn't do you much good if there's nothing to
search for.
True so far as it goes. On the *other hand, we (the US) have managed to
pressure other countries into cooperating. I know we (the US) got an
anonymous remailer in (if I recall correctly) the Netherlands shut down.
On the *other hand, you don't even need the records and don't have to
bother with the remailer at all. The FBI can issue itself permission
(since the Patriot Act) to slap a sniffer on his outgoing packets. No
remailer cooperation needed. Just catch the packets on their way *to the
remailer...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 08:42:46 AM |
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In article <pan.2003.10.25.12.49.06.143324@eac.org>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:14 +0000, BTR1701 wrote:
Only the remailers in the USA and then it only works if the remailers
keep records. A lot of them scrub their records daily just for that
reason. A search warrant doesn't do you much good if there's nothing to
search for.
True so far as it goes. On the *other hand, we (the US) have managed to
pressure other countries into cooperating. I know we (the US) got an
anonymous remailer in (if I recall correctly) the Netherlands shut down.
Not over something as relatively insignificant as this. And there are
many countries (some of the poorer ones) who are setting themselves up
as data havens in order to draw business and revenue and will absolutely
not honor any subpoena or court order from the United States or Europe
when it comes to the internet.
Belize is a big player in this game. Many of the internet gambling and
prostitution servers are located in Belize where such things are legal
and encouraged by the government. State governments trying to prosecute
such things have run into a brick wall when trying to deal with the
issue.
On the *other hand, you don't even need the records and don't have to
bother with the remailer at all. The FBI can issue itself permission
(since the Patriot Act) to slap a sniffer on his outgoing packets. No
remailer cooperation needed. Just catch the packets on their way *to the
remailer...
No, the FBI can't issue itself permission to do anything of the kind.
The FBI has to make an application through the Justice Department and if
DOJ approves, then it must be presented to the court for a warrant. It's
true that the court proceedings are secret and closed to the public and
the media but the FBI possesses *no* unilateral power to issue itself
warrants to collect physical or computer evidence.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 09:03:19 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:42:46 +0000, BTR1701 wrote:
No, the FBI can't issue itself permission to do anything of the kind.
The FBI has to make an application through the Justice Department and if
DOJ approves, then it must be presented to the court for a warrant. It's
true that the court proceedings are secret and closed to the public and
the media but the FBI possesses *no* unilateral power to issue itself
warrants to collect physical or computer evidence.
Then you've not been paying attention to the "administrative" provisions
of the Patriot Act. The DoJ can grant itself permission to do a great many
things and can bypass even the rubber stamping of that joke of a court...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 02:34:21 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.10.25.14.03.19.256543@eac.org>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:42:46 +0000, BTR1701 wrote:
No, the FBI can't issue itself permission to do anything of the kind.
The FBI has to make an application through the Justice Department and
if DOJ approves, then it must be presented to the court for a warrant.
It's true that the court proceedings are secret and closed to the public and
the media but the FBI possesses *no* unilateral power to issue itself
warrants to collect physical or computer evidence.
Then you've not been paying attention to the "administrative" provisions
of the Patriot Act. The DoJ can grant itself permission to do a great
many things and can bypass even the rubber stamping of that joke of a court...
The FBI *still* has to apply to the DOJ to get such an administrative
subpoena and those are only granted in limited cases. The Bureau can't
just go do it all on its own. And those are merely subpoenas, not
warrants.
An actual warrant would be required to acquire the contents of any
communication sent to or from an ISP. Subpoenas only cover the addresses
involved.
Just like with telephones. If the FBI wants to know who you've called
and who is calling you, they can subpoena that information. If they want
to actually listen to your conversations, they have to get a warrant.
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 04:05:13 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:14 GMT, BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
In article <ealipvgljva8jq1kfjebhoko5bp72tr04o@4ax.com>, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:36:45 GMT, a stranger
called by some Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Print it out, with headers. Check to see where your nearest FBI field
office is, and *call* them to say you have evidence that some one is
impersonating a federal LEO. That is a felony. The FBI *never*
reveals details of ongoing investigations. They have the muscle to
open up remailers with a warrant,
Only the remailers in the USA and then it only works if the remailers
keep records. A lot of them scrub their records daily just for that
reason. A search warrant doesn't do you much good if there's nothing to
search for.
If they wanted to they could trace him very easily. He must have
posted thousands of bits of garbage over the years and planted a
few clues here and there. Also, any competent programmer could
write software to analyse text in terms of word and phrase
frequency, repeated misspellings, etc. Historians have been doing
that for years. The FBI could probably search several hundred
million usenet posts in a short time looking for anything he has
posted without using a remailer.
But why should they bother?
There are many far more important criminals than Nazi Boy.
And if he ever was caught, his lawyer would probably plead that
his client was too pathetic to be taken seriously.
Though it would probably do him good if he was forbidden to use a
computer for a year or so. Push him out of his bedroom to explore
the world a bit.
-
Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 08:44:20 AM |
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In article <h7ekpv8rv1s92rthgqiu9rkkkbks6e4rgs@4ax.com>, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:53:14 GMT, BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
In article <ealipvgljva8jq1kfjebhoko5bp72tr04o@4ax.com>, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:36:45 GMT, a stranger
called by some Michelle Malkin <hypatiab7@earthlink.net> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Here's the latest phoney baloney threat I've received from KP.
He is such a dunce. I hope that the FBI is reading this, since posting
this message to me is probably illegal for several reasons, not just
to mention his posing as an FBI agent. Not only is the message not
signed, but I am told not to reply to it! And, it contains information
that no agent would give to the general public. And, of course, it was
sent through a remailer!
Print it out, with headers. Check to see where your nearest FBI field
office is, and *call* them to say you have evidence that some one is
impersonating a federal LEO. That is a felony. The FBI *never*
reveals details of ongoing investigations. They have the muscle to
open up remailers with a warrant,
Only the remailers in the USA and then it only works if the remailers
keep records. A lot of them scrub their records daily just for that
reason. A search warrant doesn't do you much good if there's nothing to
search for.
If they wanted to they could trace him very easily. He must have
posted thousands of bits of garbage over the years and planted a
few clues here and there. Also, any competent programmer could
write software to analyse text in terms of word and phrase
frequency, repeated misspellings, etc.
None of which would meet the test for admissibility in court. If a
polygraph isn't scientifically reliable enough to meet the standard,
some computer program that analyzes word frequency sure wouldn't cut it.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 12:26:53 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:20 GMT, a stranger
called by some BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
If they wanted to they could trace him very easily. He must have
posted thousands of bits of garbage over the years and planted a
few clues here and there. Also, any competent programmer could
write software to analyse text in terms of word and phrase
frequency, repeated misspellings, etc.
None of which would meet the test for admissibility in court. If a
polygraph isn't scientifically reliable enough to meet the standard,
some computer program that analyzes word frequency sure wouldn't cut it.
You're wrong. Language analysis is admissible in courts, but it is
down by foresenic experts. The USSS has an entire office that does
nothing but build profiles from the anonymous threats sent to the
President. The FBI does the same thing with bank robeery notes,
ransom notes and the like. If you can establish a pattern, you can
present it court. The defence, of course, is free to dispute the
vidence.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 02:30:27 PM |
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In article <leclpvg1osmccdlk9ns884d4bgl4m848co@4ax.com>, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:44:20 GMT, a stranger
called by some BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
If they wanted to they could trace him very easily. He must have
posted thousands of bits of garbage over the years and planted a
few clues here and there. Also, any competent programmer could
write software to analyse text in terms of word and phrase
frequency, repeated misspellings, etc.
None of which would meet the test for admissibility in court. If a
polygraph isn't scientifically reliable enough to meet the standard,
some computer program that analyzes word frequency sure wouldn't cut it.
You're wrong. Language analysis is admissible in courts, but it is
down by foresenic experts. The USSS has an entire office that does
nothing but build profiles from the anonymous threats sent to the
President.
Sure we do. We profile all the time but we can't prosecute based on
those profiles. We have to have real evidence a person made a threat,
not just our best educated guess.
The FBI does the same thing with bank robeery notes,
ransom notes and the like. If you can establish a pattern, you can
present it court. The defence, of course, is free to dispute the
vidence.
Scientific evidence has to meet a basic minimum standard. Profiling
evidence alone doesn't meet it.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Kennyboy's Latest Ploy |
25 Oct 2003 07:37:48 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:30:27 GMT, a stranger
called by some BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
In article <leclpvg1osmccdlk9ns884d4bgl4m848co@4ax.com>, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You're wrong. Language analysis is admissible in courts, but it is
down by foresenic experts. The USSS has an entire office that does
nothing but build profiles from the anonymous threats sent to the
President.
Sure we do. We profile all the time but we can't prosecute based on
those profiles. We have to have real evidence a person made a threat,
not just our best educated guess.
"We do"? Anyway, if you were in the USSS, you'd understand something
called "building a case" and "getting a warrant." If I could show a
judge Pangborn's past history of harassment, plus an analysis of
writing styles, that might get me enough to get a warrant pertaining
to intercepting copies of his electronic mail to look for evidence of
impersonation of a federal LEO. Not much work, one agent does a
weekly check of the mail trap.
The FBI does the same thing with bank robeery notes,
ransom notes and the like. If you can establish a pattern, you can
present it court. The defence, of course, is free to dispute the
vidence.
Scientific evidence has to meet a basic minimum standard. Profiling
evidence alone doesn't meet it.
Find me the place where I said that it would stand alone. If that's
all you have going into a felony trial, the defense will eat you for
lunch. Forensic evidence (all of it) is a piece of the puzzle.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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