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28 Aug 2003 01:27:35 AM |
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Kent Hovind on tomorrow's (Friday) Infidel Guy radio Show |
Creationist Kent Hovind will be speaking on the Infidel Guy internet radio
show on Friday, August 29, 2003, at 8pm EDT (UTC -4). This is the
description of the program from the website:
08/29/03 - Debate: Kent Hovind vs Alex White:
* Alex White challenges Kent Hovind on his belief that:
1.) Evolution is a religion, and that
2.) "Time" is the atheist's god.
This will be a formal debate with the designated parameters:
* 5 Introduction
* 10 Opening arguments
* 10 Rebuttles
* 5 Closing Remarks
* 30 Minutes of Phone Calls with crosstalk between Kent and Alex answering
the questions. 2 minutes per question each side.
The website is www.infidelguy.com.
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28 Aug 2003 08:18:32 AM |
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"Shmanky" <shmanky@outraged.com> wrote in message
news:rhh3b.71944$_V.12324@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
Creationist Kent Hovind will be speaking on the Infidel Guy internet radio
show on Friday, August 29, 2003, at 8pm EDT (UTC -4). This is the
description of the program from the website:
08/29/03 - Debate: Kent Hovind vs Alex White:
* Alex White challenges Kent Hovind on his belief that:
1.) Evolution is a religion, and that
2.) "Time" is the atheist's god.
This will be a formal debate with the designated parameters:
* 5 Introduction
* 10 Opening arguments
* 10 Rebuttles
* 5 Closing Remarks
* 30 Minutes of Phone Calls with crosstalk between Kent and Alex answering
the questions. 2 minutes per question each side.
This could be an opportunity for a T.O. regular to call in and request a
formal debate with Hovind on TO (If Kent can get a stenographer)
The website is www.infidelguy.com.
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Khartoum aa#2110
I think we ought always to entertain our opinions with some measure of
doubt. I shouldn't wish people dogmatically to believe any philosophy, not
even mine.
Bertrand Russell
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on tomorrow's (Friday) Infidel Guy radio Show |
04 Sep 2003 10:40:37 AM |
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"Khartoum" <Khartoum@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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"Shmanky" <shmanky@outraged.com> wrote in message
news:rhh3b.71944$_V.12324@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
Creationist Kent Hovind will be speaking on the Infidel Guy internet
radio
show on Friday, August 29, 2003, at 8pm EDT (UTC -4). This is the
description of the program from the website:
08/29/03 - Debate: Kent Hovind vs Alex White:
* Alex White challenges Kent Hovind on his belief that:
1.) Evolution is a religion, and that
2.) "Time" is the atheist's god.
This will be a formal debate with the designated parameters:
* 5 Introduction
* 10 Opening arguments
* 10 Rebuttles
* 5 Closing Remarks
* 30 Minutes of Phone Calls with crosstalk between Kent and Alex
answering
the questions. 2 minutes per question each side.
This could be an opportunity for a T.O. regular to call in and request a
formal debate with Hovind on TO (If Kent can get a stenographer)
Aron Ra please call in :-). If have to pay for to listen I probably wont
be able to :( A transcript would be nice though.
Ed
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| User: "Andrew Arensburger" |
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30 Aug 2003 12:41:46 PM |
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In talk.origins Khartoum <Khartoum@insightbb.com> wrote:
"Shmanky" <shmanky@outraged.com> wrote in message
news:rhh3b.71944$_V.12324@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
Creationist Kent Hovind will be speaking on the Infidel Guy internet radio
show on Friday, August 29, 2003, at 8pm EDT (UTC -4).
This could be an opportunity for a T.O. regular to call in and request a
formal debate with Hovind on TO (If Kent can get a stenographer)
Well, the show went pretty much as expected. Hovind basically
just ran through his schpiel, regurgitating big chunks of his
"seminar".
I didn't see your suggestion in time, so I didn't request a
written debate. I did get to ask what a "kind" was. He danced around
it, but basically it boils down to "a group of animals that a
five-year-old thinks look similar, or that have had a common
ancestor."
So presumably there's only one "kind" on Earth. Glad that's
been cleared up.
--
Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it
is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then.
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| User: "Ken Shaw" |
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30 Aug 2003 01:34:02 PM |
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Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it
is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then.
That is what I was doing wrong! I kept sacrificing lambs instead of kid
goats. Now my SCSI chain sorta works, sometimes, if I'm lucky.
Ken
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| User: "steven" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on Infidel Guy radio Show |
02 Sep 2003 07:26:37 AM |
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Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<biqnn5$7p7$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
So presumably there's only one "kind" on Earth. Glad that's
been cleared up.
My 10 month old boy would concur. That kind is "kitty" (pronounced
'Khhhhiiidd'). I suspect this bias is due to our having a cat, still
it is amusing to see hom point out sea otters in an aquarium, and say
'khhhhhiiid!'.
steven pirie-shepherd
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| User: "Andrew Arensburger" |
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02 Sep 2003 09:36:46 AM |
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In talk.origins steven <steven_pirie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<biqnn5$7p7$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
So presumably there's only one "kind" on Earth. Glad that's
been cleared up.
My 10 month old boy would concur. That kind is "kitty" (pronounced
'Khhhhiiidd').
A friend of mine had two cats. Her apartment was right by the
building entrance, and had a window onto the courtyard, where the cats
liked to sit in the mornings and afternoons and watch Cat TV.
One day, a woman and her <= 2yo daughter were coming into the
building, and saw the cats. Before the mother could restrain her, the
daughter ran in, opened the door to my friend's apartment, and
squealed, "Puppy!"
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Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
And God said, "I'll buy a vowel."
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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30 Aug 2003 03:40:07 PM |
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Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins Khartoum <Khartoum@insightbb.com> wrote:
"Shmanky" <shmanky@outraged.com> wrote in message
news:rhh3b.71944$_V.12324@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
Creationist Kent Hovind will be speaking on the Infidel Guy internet radio
show on Friday, August 29, 2003, at 8pm EDT (UTC -4).
This could be an opportunity for a T.O. regular to call in and request a
formal debate with Hovind on TO (If Kent can get a stenographer)
Well, the show went pretty much as expected. Hovind basically
just ran through his schpiel, regurgitating big chunks of his
"seminar".
I didn't see your suggestion in time, so I didn't request a
written debate. I did get to ask what a "kind" was. He danced around
it, but basically it boils down to "a group of animals that a
five-year-old thinks look similar, or that have had a common
ancestor."
So presumably there's only one "kind" on Earth. Glad that's
been cleared up.
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far, all
animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
Since "fish" would not be necessary, that leaves five animals. You'd
need seven cows and ducks (given that they're kosher), so that's a total
of 20 animals you'd need on the ark.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Steve Carlip" |
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30 Aug 2003 04:27:19 PM |
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In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
[...]
I didn't see your suggestion in time, so I didn't request a
written debate. I did get to ask what a "kind" was. He danced
around it, but basically it boils down to "a group of animals that
a five-year-old thinks look similar, or that have had a common
ancestor."
So presumably there's only one "kind" on Earth. Glad that's
been cleared up.
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far,
all animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
Hmm. My almost-18-month-old concurs on fish, puppy
(dog), cat, duck, and cow (well, ``moo,'' but you have to
allow for language differences). But he would also add
koala, bear, elephant (including tapirs), whale, owl, and
bird (including bats, as one would expect biblically, but
also including airplanes). He also has a sign he uses for
frog, which includes snakes -- maybe there's a ``reptile
and amphibian kind.''
So you'll need a little more room...
Steve Carlip
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31 Aug 2003 02:55:35 PM |
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In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Steve Carlip <sjcarlip@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
Maggie can kinda do bear, owl, and frog, but those so far are more like
"beaaa", "owwwww", and "faaaa", so I didn't know if those counted.
I think so... just different dialects. David says "beeea" and "owwowwl."
As far as lizards go, she has already classified them as puppies at her
last trip to the zoo, so that clears up the reptile issue.
David learned some "baby signs" at preschool, including "frog,"
which involves sticking your tongue out and in and out and in.
(He now sometimes says "alala" for frog.) But he insists that
the same sign applies to snakes, lizards, and salamanders. So
this may take further research.
I'm trying to teach her "manatee" so we can impress the relatives :)
That would be cool. David will pick out a picture of an emu, but
can't say it yet. So far, though, our relatives are impressed enough
by "elephant" (well, "elelaf," but as I said, different dialects...).
Steve Carlip
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31 Aug 2003 03:56:50 PM |
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Steve Carlip <sjcarlip@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Steve Carlip <sjcarlip@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
Maggie can kinda do bear, owl, and frog, but those so far are more like
"beaaa", "owwwww", and "faaaa", so I didn't know if those counted.
I think so... just different dialects. David says "beeea" and "owwowwl."
As far as lizards go, she has already classified them as puppies at her
last trip to the zoo, so that clears up the reptile issue.
David learned some "baby signs" at preschool, including "frog,"
which involves sticking your tongue out and in and out and in.
(He now sometimes says "alala" for frog.) But he insists that
the same sign applies to snakes, lizards, and salamanders. So
this may take further research.
I'm trying to teach her "manatee" so we can impress the relatives :)
That would be cool. David will pick out a picture of an emu, but
can't say it yet. So far, though, our relatives are impressed enough
by "elephant" (well, "elelaf," but as I said, different dialects...).
Maggie calls 'em "Fant!"
Funniest at the zoo were the hippopotami. They were both in the water
with only the tops of their backs sticking out. Maggie saw them and
immediately pronounced them "Fish!"
Unfortunately, they never got out of the water. We were hoping that
Maggie could see their legs so she could reclassify 'em as cows :)
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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30 Aug 2003 07:27:37 PM |
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John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote
news:<kv52lv49jvslt9hfs2n53vg64cg7j0q4hk@4ax.com>...
Steve Carlip <sjcarlip@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
[...]
I didn't see your suggestion in time, so I didn't request a
written debate. I did get to ask what a "kind" was. He danced
around it, but basically it boils down to "a group of animals that
a five-year-old thinks look similar, or that have had a common
ancestor."
So presumably there's only one "kind" on Earth. Glad that's
been cleared up.
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far,
all animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
Hmm. My almost-18-month-old concurs on fish, puppy
(dog), cat, duck, and cow (well, ``moo,'' but you have to
allow for language differences). But he would also add
koala, bear, elephant (including tapirs), whale, owl, and
bird (including bats, as one would expect biblically, but
also including airplanes). He also has a sign he uses for
frog, which includes snakes -- maybe there's a ``reptile
and amphibian kind.''
Maggie can kinda do bear, owl, and frog, but those so far are more like
"beaaa", "owwwww", and "faaaa", so I didn't know if those counted.
As far as lizards go, she has already classified them as puppies at her
last trip to the zoo, so that clears up the reptile issue.
I'm trying to teach her "manatee" so we can impress the relatives :)
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
There you evilutionists go avoiding the issue. Hovind clearly
specified a five-year-old, and here you are talking about
18-month-olds. It's obvious you can't prove the existence of
five-year-olds as a transitional between these 18-month-olds (which
have never been published in a peer-reviewed journal) and a full grown
evolutionist, and this 18-month-old strawman (sorry, straw little
girl) is fooling no one. Hovind wins again, as you know he always
does....
Budikka - if only creation scientists could create some creation
science
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30 Aug 2003 11:19:23 PM |
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In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far, all
animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
--
Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
World ends today at 9:30 pm! Film at 11:00...
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31 Aug 2003 12:13:09 AM |
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Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far, all
animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
I'm not sure if she knows how to place 'em herself. Whenever we get a
bug, she just watches it and doesn't try to classify it.
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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31 Aug 2003 01:11:34 AM |
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In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
I'm not sure if she knows how to place 'em herself. Whenever we get a
bug, she just watches it and doesn't try to classify it.
Maybe she hasn't decided whether they're alive (like the TV)
or inanimate (like trees).
--
Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
Anybody want to buy a used cold?
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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31 Aug 2003 08:59:07 AM |
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Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
I'm not sure if she knows how to place 'em herself. Whenever we get a
bug, she just watches it and doesn't try to classify it.
Maybe she hasn't decided whether they're alive (like the TV)
or inanimate (like trees).
Y'got me. She does understand the difference between alive and
not-alive. Until about a month ago, she got a little freaked out by
things that aren't alive but talk, like electronic toys.
She seems okay with 'em now.
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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31 Aug 2003 11:17:16 AM |
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"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
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Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
I'm not sure if she knows how to place 'em herself. Whenever we get a
bug, she just watches it and doesn't try to classify it.
Maybe she hasn't decided whether they're alive (like the TV)
or inanimate (like trees).
Y'got me. She does understand the difference between alive and
not-alive. Until about a month ago, she got a little freaked out by
things that aren't alive but talk, like electronic toys.
She seems okay with 'em now.
Reminds me of a puppy I had a few years back - she was rather a small
version of who she would eventually be, a border collie and shepherd mix.
We bought a pineapple squeak toy, it was originally about her size, and she
loved batting it about. For a week she never had the "oomph" to actually
cause it to squeak, she was content for it to roll around.
Then one day, she was practicing her pouncing, and she pounced square on it.
And it squeaked. Loudly. She jumped back, raised her haunches and barked
and waited for it to try to attack her. She barked for a solid minute
before she realized it was still sitting there, at which point she became
bold enough to attack it. She no longer saw the pineapple as a toy, it was
now an enemy that must be destroyed. She had it chewed to pieces in a short
five minutes.
Who would have thought such trauma could come from such an innocent toy?
Babies and puppies have unique perspectives.
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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31 Aug 2003 06:40:32 PM |
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Pithecanthropus erectus <tuibguy@comcast.net> wrote:
"John Hattan" <john@thecodezone.com> wrote in message
news:jov3lvcjs58smic8uqpojr032veqkojl4d@4ax.com...
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
I'm not sure if she knows how to place 'em herself. Whenever we get a
bug, she just watches it and doesn't try to classify it.
Maybe she hasn't decided whether they're alive (like the TV)
or inanimate (like trees).
Y'got me. She does understand the difference between alive and
not-alive. Until about a month ago, she got a little freaked out by
things that aren't alive but talk, like electronic toys.
She seems okay with 'em now.
Reminds me of a puppy I had a few years back - she was rather a small
version of who she would eventually be, a border collie and shepherd mix.
We bought a pineapple squeak toy, it was originally about her size, and she
loved batting it about. For a week she never had the "oomph" to actually
cause it to squeak, she was content for it to roll around.
Then one day, she was practicing her pouncing, and she pounced square on it.
And it squeaked. Loudly. She jumped back, raised her haunches and barked
and waited for it to try to attack her. She barked for a solid minute
before she realized it was still sitting there, at which point she became
bold enough to attack it. She no longer saw the pineapple as a toy, it was
now an enemy that must be destroyed. She had it chewed to pieces in a short
five minutes.
Who would have thought such trauma could come from such an innocent toy?
Babies and puppies have unique perspectives.
The classificatory propensities of babies at an immediate
post-linguistic stage are the topic of no small amount of research, and
have been since Piaget. The work of Scott Atran suggests that we all
have in innate (a word to beware of!) tendency to classify things into a
seven rank scale, starting with Life (i.e., alive-not alive) and ending
with something similar to species. The intermediate groupings look like
nothing so much as Linnaean ranks. Babies seem to skip a few ranks
(which suggests to me, at any rate, that the seven rank scale is *not*
innate but is a result of experience).
--
John Wilkins
DARK IN HERE, ISN'T IT?
wilkins.id.au
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31 Aug 2003 01:35:34 PM |
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In talk.origins Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
Oh, you mean "buh." I forgot that one.
Steve Carlip
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31 Aug 2003 02:31:29 PM |
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In talk.origins Steve Carlip <sjcarlip@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins Andrew Arensburger <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
Oh, you mean "buh." I forgot that one.
Do I? Perhaps I'm misremembering (I don't have any kids of my
own; I just borrow others').
But I'm pretty sure that the exclamation point is part of the
word. A friend of a friend bought a boat, and asked his two-year-old
niece what it should be called. Now it's officially registered as
"Boat!".
(This, of course, led to a naming convention. A mutual friend
now drives Truck! when he's not working on Thesis!, and in my office,
I have Couch!.)
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Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
I have a grip on reality, just not this particular one.
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31 Aug 2003 07:03:52 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:19:23 +0000, Andrew Arensburger
<arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far, all
animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
dud. Dud! DUDUDUDUDUDUD!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/hudsonwj/BigBug.html
--
Bill Hudson
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on Infidel Guy radio Show |
31 Aug 2003 08:46:51 PM |
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"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:19:23 +0000, Andrew Arensburger
<arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far, all
animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
dud. Dud! DUDUDUDUDUDUD!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/hudsonwj/BigBug.html
DUUUUUUUUD!!!!
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "Bill Hudson" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on Infidel Guy radio Show |
31 Aug 2003 09:45:33 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:46:51 +0000, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:19:23 +0000, Andrew Arensburger
<arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far,
all animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
dud. Dud! DUDUDUDUDUDUD!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/hudsonwj/BigBug.html
DUUUUUUUUD!!!!
You know the old saying about horror movies, how the monster can come back
to life three times before it's *really* dead? Thats this bug.
It's a "California Prionus" by the way.
It first cropped up clinging to my garage door on Friday. I swatted it
and brushed the remains into the garden. Then it showed up again (still
alive) on the garage floor Saturday morning. My father in law put on some
gloves and dropped it into the trash can thinking (incorrectly) that the
heat of the day would dispose of it. Then today it shows up for the
third time, when I went to put something into the trash, it was clinging
to the inside of the lid, and jumped/fell out onto my leg.
I was a bit more inchoerent than "duuuude!" I think.
Anyway, it spent the better part of the afternoon in the bottom of a jar
of isopropyl alchohol, and is now drying out on a paper towel (but I'm
keeping an eye on it). I'm going to see if the local bio dept at the high
school wants it.
--
Bill Hudson
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on Infidel Guy radio Show |
31 Aug 2003 10:23:58 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.09.01.02.42.46.809376@yahoo.com>,
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:46:51 +0000, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:19:23 +0000, Andrew Arensburger
<arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus far,
all animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
dud. Dud! DUDUDUDUDUDUD!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/hudsonwj/BigBug.html
DUUUUUUUUD!!!!
You know the old saying about horror movies, how the monster can come back
to life three times before it's *really* dead? Thats this bug.
It's a "California Prionus" by the way.
It first cropped up clinging to my garage door on Friday. I swatted it
and brushed the remains into the garden. Then it showed up again (still
alive) on the garage floor Saturday morning. My father in law put on some
gloves and dropped it into the trash can thinking (incorrectly) that the
heat of the day would dispose of it. Then today it shows up for the
third time, when I went to put something into the trash, it was clinging
to the inside of the lid, and jumped/fell out onto my leg.
I was a bit more inchoerent than "duuuude!" I think.
Anyway, it spent the better part of the afternoon in the bottom of a jar
of isopropyl alchohol, and is now drying out on a paper towel (but I'm
keeping an eye on it). I'm going to see if the local bio dept at the high
school wants it.
You shoul dkill these as soon as you see them. They eat hops. Which is
used to make beer.
--
John Wilkins
It is not enough to succeed. Friends must be seen to have failed.
Truman Capote
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| User: "Bill Hudson" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on Infidel Guy radio Show |
31 Aug 2003 10:29:46 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:23:58 +0000, John Wilkins <wilkins@wehi.edu.au>
wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.01.02.42.46.809376@yahoo.com>,
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:46:51 +0000, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:19:23 +0000, Andrew Arensburger
<arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus
far, all animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
dud. Dud! DUDUDUDUDUDUD!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/hudsonwj/BigBug.html
DUUUUUUUUD!!!!
You know the old saying about horror movies, how the monster can come
back to life three times before it's *really* dead? Thats this bug.
It's a "California Prionus" by the way.
It first cropped up clinging to my garage door on Friday. I swatted it
and brushed the remains into the garden. Then it showed up again (still
alive) on the garage floor Saturday morning. My father in law put on
some gloves and dropped it into the trash can thinking (incorrectly)
that the heat of the day would dispose of it. Then today it shows up
for the third time, when I went to put something into the trash, it was
clinging to the inside of the lid, and jumped/fell out onto my leg.
I was a bit more inchoerent than "duuuude!" I think.
Anyway, it spent the better part of the afternoon in the bottom of a jar
of isopropyl alchohol, and is now drying out on a paper towel (but I'm
keeping an eye on it). I'm going to see if the local bio dept at the
high school wants it.
You shoul dkill these as soon as you see them. They eat hops. Which is
used to make beer.
Ah, no wonder it was in bad shape. It must have gotten some Garlic.
--
Bill (who lives in Gilroy, CA) Hudson
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| User: "Kid Cool" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on Infidel Guy radio Show |
02 Sep 2003 11:22:25 PM |
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"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.09.01.03.30.20.952966@yahoo.com...
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:23:58 +0000, John Wilkins <wilkins@wehi.edu.au>
wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.01.02.42.46.809376@yahoo.com>,
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:46:51 +0000, John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com>
wrote:
"Bill Hudson" <hudsonwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:19:23 +0000, Andrew Arensburger
<arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote:
In talk.origins John Hattan <john@thecodezone.com> wrote:
Well, according to my 18 month-old, there are six "kinds". Thus
far, all animals she has seen fit into the following categories.
Fish
Cow
Puppy
Cat
Pig
Duck
You must keep an exceptionally clean house if she doesn't have
a category for Dud! (Insectae, and most other arthropods).
dud. Dud! DUDUDUDUDUDUD!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/hudsonwj/BigBug.html
DUUUUUUUUD!!!!
You know the old saying about horror movies, how the monster can come
back to life three times before it's *really* dead? Thats this bug.
It's a "California Prionus" by the way.
It first cropped up clinging to my garage door on Friday. I swatted it
and brushed the remains into the garden. Then it showed up again
(still
alive) on the garage floor Saturday morning. My father in law put on
some gloves and dropped it into the trash can thinking (incorrectly)
that the heat of the day would dispose of it. Then today it shows up
for the third time, when I went to put something into the trash, it was
clinging to the inside of the lid, and jumped/fell out onto my leg.
I was a bit more inchoerent than "duuuude!" I think.
Anyway, it spent the better part of the afternoon in the bottom of a
jar
of isopropyl alchohol, and is now drying out on a paper towel (but I'm
keeping an eye on it). I'm going to see if the local bio dept at the
high school wants it.
You shoul dkill these as soon as you see them. They eat hops. Which is
used to make beer.
obviously a capital crime ... even in California :>
Ah, no wonder it was in bad shape. It must have gotten some Garlic.
--
Bill (who lives in Gilroy, CA) Hudson
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| User: "Andrew Arensburger" |
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30 Aug 2003 11:21:48 PM |
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In talk.origins Boikat <Boikat@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Andrew Arensburger" <arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:biqnn5$7p7$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
Well, the show went pretty much as expected. Hovind basically
just ran through his schpiel, regurgitating big chunks of his
"seminar".
I didn't see your suggestion in time, so I didn't request a
written debate. I did get to ask what a "kind" was. He danced around
it, but basically it boils down to "a group of animals that a
five-year-old thinks look similar, or that have had a common
ancestor."
Well, at least he's provided a measure of his scientific knowledge...
He did that in his introductory remarks, when he grouped Big
Bang cosmology, star formation, the creation of elements, and
abiogenesis under the umbrella term, "evolution."
But then, if he got a clue, he would no longer be the
laughable kook we've come to know and love, would he?
--
Andrew Arensburger, Systems guy University of Maryland
arensb.no-bloody-spam@glue.umd.edu Office of Information Technology
I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Kent Hovind on tomorrow's (Friday) Infidel Guy radio Show |
28 Aug 2003 08:42:13 AM |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:27:35 +0000, Shmanky wrote:
Creationist Kent Hovind will be speaking on the Infidel Guy internet radio
show on Friday, August 29, 2003, at 8pm EDT (UTC -4). This is the
description of the program from the website:
<blink>
Hovind agreed to this?
Wow.
I guess miracles *do happen...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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