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Religions > Atheism |
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"Brian Westley" |
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26 Jan 2004 05:19:14 PM |
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Kerry admits to agnosticism after Vietnam |
http://slate.msn.com/id/2094401/
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I don't want to overstate Kerry's flaws. He's not Al Gore. He comes
across as good-humored, decent, and likable rather than phony. And he
doesn't pander mindlessly on every subject. On offshore job losses, "The
solution is not to sit there and pretend that you can stop every job
from going overseas," he says in Hampton. On the subject of religion, he
believes that presidents should "recognize the diversity of faiths and
even of agnosticism and atheism," and he takes the politically risky
stance of admitting to a "questioning, agnostic stage" after his
experience in Vietnam.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry admits to agnosticism after Vietnam |
27 Jan 2004 08:45:49 AM |
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Brian Westley wrote:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2094401/
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I don't want to overstate Kerry's flaws. He's not Al Gore.
Not being Al Gore is not a flaw :-P
He comes
across as good-humored, decent, and likable rather than phony. And he
doesn't pander mindlessly on every subject. On offshore job losses, "The
solution is not to sit there and pretend that you can stop every job
from going overseas," he says in Hampton. On the subject of religion, he
believes that presidents should "recognize the diversity of faiths and
even of agnosticism and atheism," and he takes the politically risky
stance of admitting to a "questioning, agnostic stage" after his
experience in Vietnam.
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A very courageous statement that, sadly, will guarantee his losing the
nomination. There is no way the Dems will appoint anyone other than a godbot
to compete with the popularly selected President Godbot.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Marvin" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry admits to agnosticism after Vietnam |
27 Jan 2004 10:38:10 AM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:4016799D.F042BDD7@serv.net...
Brian Westley wrote:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2094401/
...
I don't want to overstate Kerry's flaws. He's not Al Gore.
Not being Al Gore is not a flaw :-P
He comes
across as good-humored, decent, and likable rather than
phony. And he
doesn't pander mindlessly on every subject. On offshore
job losses, "The
solution is not to sit there and pretend that you can stop
every job
from going overseas," he says in Hampton. On the subject
of religion, he
believes that presidents should "recognize the diversity
of faiths and
even of agnosticism and atheism," and he takes the
politically risky
stance of admitting to a "questioning, agnostic stage"
after his
experience in Vietnam.
...
A very courageous statement that, sadly, will guarantee his
losing the
nomination. There is no way the Dems will appoint anyone
other than a godbot
to compete with the popularly selected President Godbot.
--
Gregory Gadow
Perhaps not. An "agnostic stage" tends to be quite popular
with the Wednesday night Bible study crowd.
--
Marvin
To reply, burn off fog.
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry admits to agnosticism after Vietnam |
27 Jan 2004 12:39:24 PM |
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On 26 Jan 2004 23:19:14 GMT, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com>
ejaculated:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2094401/
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I don't want to overstate Kerry's flaws. He's not Al Gore. He comes
across as good-humored, decent, and likable rather than phony. And he
doesn't pander mindlessly on every subject. On offshore job losses, "The
solution is not to sit there and pretend that you can stop every job
from going overseas," he says in Hampton. On the subject of religion, he
believes that presidents should "recognize the diversity of faiths and
even of agnosticism and atheism," and he takes the politically risky
stance of admitting to a "questioning, agnostic stage" after his
experience in Vietnam.
As long as he came out on the "other side" of that questioning stage
as a theist, then god-believers will herald him as a paragon of faith.
Everyone knows that the truly faithful had to pass through the dark
valley before coming out into the light of a newer, deeper faith.
Regardless, it's still a feather in his cap, IMO.
--
"Resurrection is for those who didn't get it right the first time."
- Otep, "Sacrilege"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry admits to agnosticism after Vietnam |
26 Jan 2004 11:09:46 PM |
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On 26 Jan 2004 23:19:14 GMT, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
even of agnosticism and atheism," and he takes the politically risky
stance of admitting to a "questioning, agnostic stage" after his
experience in Vietnam.
I wonder how religious he is now, after all these years. Did his
"agnostic stage" turn to atheism, which he knows he can't admit?
--
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Field
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