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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Michael Marxist Moore"
Date: 17 Aug 2004 11:34:19 AM
Object: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE
AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vietnam Veteran Exposes Kerry's 'Phony' Anti-war Testimony
More and more facts are surfacing about the untrue claims John Kerry
made as an anti-war activist after returning as a hero from Vietnam.
"Unfortunately, Mr. Kerry came home to Massachusetts, the one state
George McGovern carried in 1972. He joined the Vietnam Veterans
Against the War and emceed the Winter Soldier Investigation (both
financed by Jane Fonda)," Stephen Sherman, who was a first lieutenant
with the U.S. Army Fifth Special
Forces Group (Airborne) in Vietnam in 1967-68, writes in today's Wall
Street Journal.
"Many veterans believe these protests led to more American deaths, and
to the enslavement of the people on whose behalf the protests were
ostensibly being undertaken. But being a take-charge kind of guy, Mr.
Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and even testified before Congress
on the findings of the Investigation, which he accepted at face value.
"In his book 'Stolen Valor,' B.G. Burkett points out that Mr. Kerry
liberally used phony veterans to testify to atrocities they could not
possibly have committed. ...
"Mr. Kerry hasn't given me any reason to trust his judgment. As
co-chairman of the Senate investigating committee, he quashed a
revealing inquiry into the POW/MIA issue, and he supports trade
initiatives with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam while blocking any
legislation requiring Hanoi to adhere to basic human rights. ...
"Just as Mr. Kerry threw away medals only to claim them back again,
Sen. Kerry voted to take action against Iraq, but claims to take that
vote back by voting against funding the result. So I can understand my
former comrade-in-arms hugging the man who saved his life, but not the
act of choosing him for president out of gratitude. And I would hate
to see anyone giving Mr. Kerry a sympathy vote for president just
because being a Vietnam veteran is 'back in style,'" Sherman
concludes.
Carl Limbacher
--
Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They
are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
.

User: "Lloyd Parker"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17 Aug 2004 10:28:24 AM
In article <sqc4i050vi9gtmaoq34vhquuej9jk517h0@4ax.com>,
Michael Marxist Moore <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote:

Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE
AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Vietnam Veteran Exposes Kerry's 'Phony' Anti-war Testimony

More and more facts are surfacing about the untrue claims John Kerry
made as an anti-war activist after returning as a hero from Vietnam.

"Unfortunately, Mr. Kerry came home to Massachusetts, the one state
George McGovern carried in 1972. He joined the Vietnam Veterans
Against the War and emceed the Winter Soldier Investigation (both
financed by Jane Fonda)," Stephen Sherman, who was a first lieutenant
with the U.S. Army Fifth Special
Forces Group (Airborne) in Vietnam in 1967-68, writes in today's Wall
Street Journal.

"Many veterans believe these protests led to more American deaths,

How does free speech kill?

and
to the enslavement of the people on whose behalf the protests were
ostensibly being undertaken. But being a take-charge kind of guy, Mr.
Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and even testified before Congress
on the findings of the Investigation, which he accepted at face value.

"In his book 'Stolen Valor,' B.G. Burkett points out that Mr. Kerry
liberally used phony veterans to testify to atrocities they could not
possibly have committed. ...

"Mr. Kerry hasn't given me any reason to trust his judgment. As
co-chairman of the Senate investigating committee, he quashed a
revealing inquiry into the POW/MIA issue, and he supports trade
initiatives with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam while blocking any
legislation requiring Hanoi to adhere to basic human rights. ...

Actually, the dems are in the forefront of tying trade to human rights.


"Just as Mr. Kerry threw away medals only to claim them back again,

Actually he didn't.

Sen. Kerry voted to take action against Iraq, but claims to take that
vote back by voting against funding the result.

Apples, oranges.

So I can understand my
former comrade-in-arms hugging the man who saved his life, but not the
act of choosing him for president out of gratitude. And I would hate
to see anyone giving Mr. Kerry a sympathy vote for president just
because being a Vietnam veteran is 'back in style,'" Sherman
concludes.

Carl Limbacher


.

User: "chris"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18 Aug 2004 05:04:43 PM
Michael Marxist Moore <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message news:<sqc4i050vi9gtmaoq34vhquuej9jk517h0@4ax.com>...

Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE
AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Vietnam Veteran Exposes Kerry's 'Phony' Anti-war Testimony

More and more facts are surfacing about the untrue claims John Kerry
made as an anti-war activist after returning as a hero from Vietnam.

"Unfortunately, Mr. Kerry came home to Massachusetts, the one state
George McGovern carried in 1972. He joined the Vietnam Veterans
Against the War and emceed the Winter Soldier Investigation (both
financed by Jane Fonda)," Stephen Sherman, who was a first lieutenant
with the U.S. Army Fifth Special
Forces Group (Airborne) in Vietnam in 1967-68, writes in today's Wall
Street Journal.

"Many veterans believe these protests led to more American deaths, and
to the enslavement of the people on whose behalf the protests were
ostensibly being undertaken. But being a take-charge kind of guy, Mr.
Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and even testified before Congress
on the findings of the Investigation, which he accepted at face value.

Many veterans believe...about 66% of veterans are republican...hmmmm
This again is one man's opinion...and if I'm not mistaken...that was
Tricky *****'s time in office...'72...so you don't think Nixon would
have had his people spinning that the protests were leading to more
deaths?
Or is that concept over your head?

"In his book 'Stolen Valor,' B.G. Burkett points out that Mr. Kerry
liberally used phony veterans to testify to atrocities they could not
possibly have committed. ...

Where's proof of this? Is this just conjecture? Where is the proof?
Do you beleive EVERYTHING you read?

"Mr. Kerry hasn't given me any reason to trust his judgment. As
co-chairman of the Senate investigating committee, he quashed a
revealing inquiry into the POW/MIA issue, and he supports trade
initiatives with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam while blocking any
legislation requiring Hanoi to adhere to basic human rights. ...

"Just as Mr. Kerry threw away medals only to claim them back again,
Sen. Kerry voted to take action against Iraq, but claims to take that
vote back by voting against funding the result. So I can understand my
former comrade-in-arms hugging the man who saved his life, but not the
act of choosing him for president out of gratitude. And I would hate
to see anyone giving Mr. Kerry a sympathy vote for president just
because being a Vietnam veteran is 'back in style,'" Sherman
concludes.

Carl Limbacher

Hey, if it flips your skirt up, go ahead...see how anyone under 40
cares...to see soldiers choping down other soldiers like this just
goes to show you that the amount of honor that goes along with service
is in the eye of the beholder
a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it
.
User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18 Aug 2004 06:31:38 PM
"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it

Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision". And while it may be a
bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and a
fraud.
.
User: "chris"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19 Aug 2004 09:06:28 AM
"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote in message news:<uFRUc.2088$2L3.1603@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it



Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision". And while it may be a
bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and a
fraud.

What these 'superior officers' fail to produce is OERs (Officer
Evaluation Reports) for what they describe in terms of
Kerry...documentation is all you have to go on in the military, as a
lot of times your past does not follow you to your next duty station,
but every single OER or NCOER (same thing for non commissioned
officers) stays in your personell file and eventually ends up on
microfiche
Now for all these people who are coming out with this knowledge of his
inability to lead, none of them can produce a document to support
it...and that's wrong. How is it fair to not go no someone's record
with the millitary stuff, yet go with his record in the senate? it
should be his record at every step
Arguments concerning his voting record in senate aside...strictly
speaking about his service in the military, his documentation equals
what people thought of him and what his commanding officer thought of
him. If the opinion of people not in your chain of command had
anything to do with your job performance, the military wouldn't work.
These people coming out now are republicans for bush...that's the
reason they're attacking him
.
User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19 Aug 2004 09:09:30 AM
"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote in message

news:<uFRUc.2088$2L3.1603@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it



Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision". And while it may be

a

bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and

a

fraud.


What these 'superior officers' fail to produce is OERs (Officer
Evaluation Reports) for what they describe in terms of
Kerry...documentation is all you have to go on in the military, as a
lot of times your past does not follow you to your next duty station,
but every single OER or NCOER (same thing for non commissioned
officers) stays in your personell file and eventually ends up on
microfiche

Kinda similar to how Kerry fails to authorize the release of his complete
service records, fails to authorize the release of his Senate committee
attendance records, and fails to authorize the release of all the income tax
returns filed by the Kerry household.
So, in the meantime, it's Kerry's word versus the word of over 250 Vietnam
war veterans.
I think I'll go with the 250+ vets on this one, if that's OK with you......
.
User: "chris"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19 Aug 2004 04:46:31 PM
"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote in message news:<uw2Vc.27585$nx2.5798@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote in message

news:<uFRUc.2088$2L3.1603@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it



Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision". And while it may be

a

bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and

a

fraud.


What these 'superior officers' fail to produce is OERs (Officer
Evaluation Reports) for what they describe in terms of
Kerry...documentation is all you have to go on in the military, as a
lot of times your past does not follow you to your next duty station,
but every single OER or NCOER (same thing for non commissioned
officers) stays in your personell file and eventually ends up on
microfiche



Kinda similar to how Kerry fails to authorize the release of his complete
service records, fails to authorize the release of his Senate committee
attendance records, and fails to authorize the release of all the income tax
returns filed by the Kerry household.

So, in the meantime, it's Kerry's word versus the word of over 250 Vietnam
war veterans.

I think I'll go with the 250+ vets on this one, if that's OK with you......

So you're saying that the award citation was incorrect for every guy
that was on the river that day? that's what you're accerting here...
.

User: "Bruno Cattivabrutto"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19 Aug 2004 02:25:51 PM
"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote in message news:<uw2Vc.27585$nx2.5798@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

I think I'll go with the 250+ vets on this one, if that's OK with you......

250+ liars can ALL be wrong:
Washinton Post 8/19/2004
Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most
vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate
of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own
version of events.

In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who
commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly
disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came
under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March
13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.
But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released
yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act,
contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons
fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won
his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for
providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets
flying about him."

As one of five Swift boat skippers who led the raid up the Bay Hap
River, Thurlow was a direct participant in the disputed events. He is
also a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public
advocacy group of Vietnam veterans dismayed by Kerry's subsequent
antiwar activities, which has aired a controversial television
advertisement attacking his war record.
In interviews and written reminiscences, Kerry has described how his
50-foot patrol boat came under fire from the banks of the Bay Hap
after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. patrol boat. According to
Kerry and members of his crew, the firing continued as an injured
Kerry leaned over the bow of his ship to rescue a Special Forces
officer who was blown overboard in a second explosion.
'Constant enemy small arms fire'
Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was "not under
fire" when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described
Kerry's Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came
under "small arms and automatic weapons fire," as "totally
fabricated."
"I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was
released by Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the
backing of more than 250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of
Kerry's fellow boat commanders.
A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his
actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG
THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the
disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units
in the flotilla also came under fire.
"It's like a Hollywood presentation here, which wasn't the case,"
Thurlow said last night after being read the full text of his Bronze
Star citation. "My personal feeling was always that I got the award
for coming to the rescue of the boat that was mined. This casts doubt
on anybody's awards. It is sickening and disgusting."
Thurlow said he would consider his award "fraudulent" if coming under
enemy fire was the basis for it. "I am here to state that we weren't
under fire," he said. He speculated that Kerry could have been the
source of at least some of the language used in the citation.
In a telephone interview Tuesday evening after he attended a Swift
Boat Veterans strategy session in an Arlington hotel, Thurlow said he
lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he was
unwilling to authorize release of his military records because he
feared attempts by the Kerry campaign to discredit him and other
anti-Kerry veterans.
The Post filed an independent request for the documents with the
National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, which is the central
repository for veterans' records. The documents were faxed to The Post
by officials at the records center yesterday.
Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that
Kerry was the author of an after-action report that described how his
boat came under enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that
assertion, and there is no convincing documentary evidence to settle
the argument. As the senior skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might
have been expected to write the after-action report for March 13, but
he said that Kerry routinely "duked the system" to present his version
of events.
For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand
what was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down
the river after the mine exploded under another boat. He later
returned to provide assistance to the stricken boat.
Thurlow, an oil industry worker and former teacher in Kansas, said he
was angry with Kerry for his antiwar activities on his return to the
United States and particularly Kerry's claim before the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee that U.S. troops in Vietnam had committed war
crimes "with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."
" 'Upset' is too mild a word," said Thurlow, a registered Republican,
of his reaction to Kerry then. "He did it strictly for his own
personal political gain, and it directly affected every single one of
us as we were trying to put our lives together."
Two other Swift boat skippers who were direct participants in the
March 13, 1969, mine explosion on the Bay Hap, Jack Chenoweth and
Richard Pees, have said they do not remember coming under "enemy
fire." A fourth commander, Don Droz, who was one of Kerry's closest
friends in Vietnam, was killed in action a month later.
The incident featured prominently in an anti-Kerry television ad
produced by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth earlier this month. "John
Kerry lied to get his Bronze Star," says Van Odell, a gunner on
PCF-23, one of the boats that came to the rescue of the stricken boat.
"I know. I was there."
The Bronze Star controversy is also a major focus of an anti-Kerry
book by John E. O'Neill, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak
Out Against John Kerry," which will hit No. 2 on The Post's bestseller
list this weekend. The book accuses Kerry of "fleeing the scene" and
lying repeatedly about his role.
Members of Kerry's crew have come to his defense, as has Rassmann, the
Special Forces officer whom he fished from the river. Rassmann says he
has vivid memories of being fired at from both banks after he fell
into the river and as Kerry came to his rescue. The two had an
emotional reunion on the eve of the Iowa Democratic caucuses in
January, an event that some political analysts believe helped swing
votes to Kerry at a crucial time.
The Bronze Star recommendations for both Kerry and Thurlow were signed
by Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, who received reports on the incident
from his base in the Gulf of Thailand. Elliott is a supporter of Swift
Boat Veterans for Truth and has questioned Kerry's actions in Vietnam.
But he has refused repeated requests for an interview after issuing
conflicting statements to the Boston Globe about whether Kerry
deserved a Silver Star. He was unreachable last night.
Money has poured into Swift Boat Veterans for Truth since the group
launched its television advertisement attacking Kerry earlier this
month. According to O'Neill, the group has received more than $450,000
over the past two weeks, mainly in small contributions. The Dallas
Morning News reported yesterday that the organization has also
received two $100,000 checks from Houston home builder Bob Perry, who
backed George W. Bush's campaigns for Texas governor and for
president.
Bush campaign officials have said they have no connection to Swift
Boat Veterans for Truth, which is not permitted to coordinate its
activities with a presidential campaign under federal election law.
.

User: "A. Dulcimer"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19 Aug 2004 09:30:50 AM
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:09:30 GMT, "John Kerry, Horse's *****"
<SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote:


"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote in message

news:<uFRUc.2088$2L3.1603@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it



Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision". And while it may be

a

bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and

a

fraud.


What these 'superior officers' fail to produce is OERs (Officer
Evaluation Reports) for what they describe in terms of
Kerry...documentation is all you have to go on in the military, as a
lot of times your past does not follow you to your next duty station,
but every single OER or NCOER (same thing for non commissioned
officers) stays in your personell file and eventually ends up on
microfiche



Kinda similar to how Kerry fails to authorize the release of his complete
service records, fails to authorize the release of his Senate committee
attendance records, and fails to authorize the release of all the income tax
returns filed by the Kerry household.

So, in the meantime, it's Kerry's word versus the word of over 250 Vietnam
war veterans.

Ah, no it isn't. It's the word of Kerry and those who actually served
with him against a bunch of partisan hacks who didn't serve with him.
Oddly enough the official records also show that before Kerry became
an anti-war activist some of them supported Kerry's version of the
events. Funny that you forget to mention that of the 250 swift boat
liars there were only maybe a dozen who ever actually met Kerry and
only one who served with him.
It's quite obvious who is lying here and it isn't Kerry. But please
keep posting this ridiculous nonsense and Kerry will keep proving it
to be lies. This campaign by the swift boat liars for bush is doing
more harm to bush than it is to kerry.

I think I'll go with the 250+ vets on this one, if that's OK with you......

-----
"The only truly new ideas [the right] has come up with
in the last twenty years are:(1) supply side economics, which is a way of redistributing
the wealth upward toward those who already have more than
they know what to do with, and; (2) creationism, which is a parallel idea for redistributing
ignorance out from its fundamentalist strongholds to those
who know more than they need to.
-Barbara Ehrenreich
.



User: "Lloyd Parker"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 20 Aug 2004 06:08:46 AM
In article <uFRUc.2088$2L3.1603@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <SunkBySwiftboaters@DNC.org> wrote:


"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it



Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision".

Liar.

And while it may be a
bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and a
fraud.

Glass houses.



.

User: "Progressive with an Attitude"

Title: Re: Kerry Had Phony 'Veterans' Commit Perjury Against U.S. LIBERALSHATE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18 Aug 2004 10:25:10 PM
John Kerry, Horse's ***** wrote:

"chris" <zenlunatic69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a0d5925.0408181404.22cad1b5@posting.google.com...

a uniform doesn't take the monster out of the man...it sometimes
emboldens it




Exactly. As Kerry's superior officers described him, he was "a loose
cannon", a person "needing constant supervision". And while it may be a
bit extreme to describe Kerry as a "monster", he is certainly a liar and a
fraud.


Are you suggesting that Kerry was a worse person than Bush when he was
young? That seems very unlikely with all bush's boozing, drugs, DUIs,
breaking and entering and other felonies his parents covered up.
.




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