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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Crazyalec"
Date: 05 Oct 2003 04:30:17 AM
Object: Kill palestinian terrorists
Kill 'em all.
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User: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 04:55:30 AM
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JwRfb.683753$Ho3.146406@sccrnsc03...

Kill 'em all.

Let's assume for a moment, that you somehow could identify and kill all
the "Palestinian terrorists." What do you think the consequences of that
action would be? A whole new breed of people, seeking revenge.
What would you do then? Genocide?
-n
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User: "maff"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 02:09:18 PM
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<JwRfb.683753$Ho3.146406@sccrnsc03>...

Kill 'em all.

Albert Einstein's words must be heeded......
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3d4d8607_1%40news.iprimus.com.au
Israelis fear war crimes arrests
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,838160,00.html
Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
November 12 2002
The Israeli government has ordered an urgent assessment of whether its
politicians and soldiers could face arrest and trial for war crimes
while travelling abroad.
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 06 Oct 2003 12:08:23 AM
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote

Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
November 12 2002
The Israeli government has ordered an urgent assessment
of whether its politicians and soldiers could face arrest
and trial for war crimes while travelling abroad.

That's not what has Israel worried. Short of a Unified Arab
military front against them, the only thing that scares the
Israeli government is the combination of 1) the American
taxpayer getting fed up and 2) the perception of a reasonable
Arab authority.
The United States has all the influence it needs to force Israel
into a settlement. We can crush them economically and,
militarily, we can supply their Arab neighbors with the
technology & information to counter the Israeli military
advantage.
We won't do that though, for two reasons. The first is that the
American people simply aren't informed about the situation,
so they don't see anything to get angry about (never mind feel
responsible). The second is that, even if we decided that we
should use our influence to smack Israel upside the head, we
still wouldn't. Arafat is scum, there's no real civil authority
to turn power over to and most of the Arab world wouldn't
even slow down it's support of militants even with a Palestinian
state and a peace treaty.
Part of the problem is a confusion of goals. Right now the real
goal appears to be an independent Palestinian state. Peace is a
goal, yes, but a peace with an independent Palestinian state.
What we really need is an Arab authority -- any authority --
willing to take responsibility for the situation and to do what
it takes to bring things under control. If that's an independent
Palestinian authority then fine, and if it's the government of
Jordan or Egypt then that's just as fine. Whatever works.
Unfortunately, the world won't accept "whatever works."
The world has decided on an independent Palestinian state
and that this somehow *Must* work.
It hasn't.
Anyhow, what we need to do is find an Arab authority that will
work, that will do what it has to do. Then we throw all of our
cards on the table -- every economic & military weapon we
have against Israel. Not that we use them (nope, that wouldn't
accomplish anything), what we do is promise to use them. We
tell the Arab authority that if their demands are within reason,
and they clean up the militants, we'll force Israel to either sign
on the dotted line or throw everything we have at them.... total
economic blockade... freezing of all assets... all trade... all
transactions... all aid... suspend diplomatic ties...
No, someone like Sharon still wouldn't agree to a settlement.
Psychotic murderers are like that. But it wouldn't take long
for the Israeli people to get fed up, and toss the hardliners out.
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 07 Oct 2003 02:10:27 AM
"JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7LmcnZVb4vC6ZR2iXTWJjg@comcast.com...

Part of the problem is a confusion of goals. Right now the real
goal appears to be an independent Palestinian state.

There is no such thing as Palestinian state. You can thank Labor party
commies for not removing arabs from territories, occupied after the 67 war.
Should have clean the land and seal the border.
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User: "Peter van Velzen"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 08 Oct 2003 04:50:02 PM
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<DFtgb.693830$YN5.566317@sccrnsc01>...

"JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7LmcnZVb4vC6ZR2iXTWJjg@comcast.com...

Part of the problem is a confusion of goals. Right now the real
goal appears to be an independent Palestinian state.


There is no such thing as Palestinian state. You can thank Labor party
commies for not removing arabs from territories, occupied after the 67 war.
Should have clean the land and seal the border.

Appearantly you want to remain faithfull to your name.
I God is omnipotent, he would be able to create himself.
In order to create himself he should not exist.
Hence: If god is omnipotent, he does not exist.
Same goes for the palestinian state,
if they want to create one,
it should not exist.
And it doesn't.
As for your start of the threath: (kill them all)
Are you in favore of an "endlösing" to the palestinian problem?
Maybe put them all in gas-chambers?
Or are you just in favor of Ethnic cleansing Serbian style?
(kill the men; Rape the women)
Think for yourself
Peter van Velzen, October 2003
Atheist#1107
Amstelveen
The Netherlands (Aug 5, 1950)
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User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 13 Oct 2003 07:24:03 PM
(Peter van Velzen) wrote in message news:<7716bb89.0310081350.7e855baa@posting.google.com>...


Are you in favore of an "endlösing" to the palestinian problem?
Maybe put them all in gas-chambers?

I'm in favor of educating people, so they will stop defending muslim terrorism.
.
User: "Peter van Velzen"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 15 Oct 2003 04:55:10 PM
(Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0310131624.6f1f339c@posting.google.com>...

pbamvv@worldonline.nl (Peter van Velzen) wrote in message news:<7716bb89.0310081350.7e855baa@posting.google.com>...


Are you in favore of an "endlösing" to the palestinian problem?
Maybe put them all in gas-chambers?


I'm in favor of educating people, so they will stop defending muslim terrorism.

Killing is now way to educate.
I am in favor of teaching people not to kill.
Think for yourself
Peter van Velzen, October 2003
Atheist#1107
Amstelveen
The Netherlands (Aug 5, 1950)
.




User: "EvilAllahtm"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 06 Oct 2003 05:07:06 PM
JTEM wrote:
Beautiful. Hands down the best explanation of this situation I've ever seen.


"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote

Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
November 12 2002
The Israeli government has ordered an urgent assessment
of whether its politicians and soldiers could face arrest
and trial for war crimes while travelling abroad.


That's not what has Israel worried. Short of a Unified Arab
military front against them, the only thing that scares the
Israeli government is the combination of 1) the American
taxpayer getting fed up and 2) the perception of a reasonable
Arab authority.

The United States has all the influence it needs to force Israel
into a settlement. We can crush them economically and,
militarily, we can supply their Arab neighbors with the
technology & information to counter the Israeli military
advantage.

We won't do that though, for two reasons. The first is that the
American people simply aren't informed about the situation,
so they don't see anything to get angry about (never mind feel
responsible). The second is that, even if we decided that we
should use our influence to smack Israel upside the head, we
still wouldn't. Arafat is scum, there's no real civil authority
to turn power over to and most of the Arab world wouldn't
even slow down it's support of militants even with a Palestinian
state and a peace treaty.

Part of the problem is a confusion of goals. Right now the real
goal appears to be an independent Palestinian state. Peace is a
goal, yes, but a peace with an independent Palestinian state.

What we really need is an Arab authority -- any authority --
willing to take responsibility for the situation and to do what
it takes to bring things under control. If that's an independent
Palestinian authority then fine, and if it's the government of
Jordan or Egypt then that's just as fine. Whatever works.

Unfortunately, the world won't accept "whatever works."
The world has decided on an independent Palestinian state
and that this somehow *Must* work.

It hasn't.

Anyhow, what we need to do is find an Arab authority that will
work, that will do what it has to do. Then we throw all of our
cards on the table -- every economic & military weapon we
have against Israel. Not that we use them (nope, that wouldn't
accomplish anything), what we do is promise to use them. We
tell the Arab authority that if their demands are within reason,
and they clean up the militants, we'll force Israel to either sign
on the dotted line or throw everything we have at them.... total
economic blockade... freezing of all assets... all trade... all
transactions... all aid... suspend diplomatic ties...

No, someone like Sharon still wouldn't agree to a settlement.
Psychotic murderers are like that. But it wouldn't take long
for the Israeli people to get fed up, and toss the hardliners out.

.



User: "EvilAllahtm"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 12:31:34 PM
Crazyalec wrote:

Kill 'em all.

This is a politically correct world now, so let's be fair. Gotta kill the
Israeli terrorists too. After all, they /did/ start the whole thing.
Personally I think the US, Britian, France, and Russia should use Israel as
a target for testing nuclear weapons. From the west bank to the Gaza strip,
and everything in between, should be wiped off the face of the earth. Jews
and Arabs alike will find out that in the real world the only hell is the
one we make for ourselves.
.
User: "SRubin5190"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 01:50:02 PM

Gotta kill the
Israeli terrorists too. After all, they /did/ start the whole thing.

Not really.
Excuse me, but I believe it was the United Nations after WW2 that actually
divided up the land, after which all the Arab nations declared war on the new
state.
Sue in PA
.
User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 01:54:44 PM
On 05 Oct 2003 18:50:02 GMT,
(SRubin5190) wrote:

Gotta kill the
Israeli terrorists too. After all, they /did/ start the whole thing.


Not really.

Excuse me, but I believe it was the United Nations after WW2 that actually
divided up the land, after which all the Arab nations declared war on the new
state.

Which wasn't of course theirs to divide up. Ben Gurion declared the
new state 6 months ahead of even the UN timetable, President Truman
surprised his own State Department by recognising it immediately and
the new state of Israel immediately started ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians living there - and Ariel Sharon was one of the worst
offenders.

Sue in PA

.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 11:47:52 PM
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote

srubin5190@aol.com (SRubin5190) wrote:

Excuse me, but I believe it was the United Nations after
WW2 that actually divided up the land, after which all
the Arab nations declared war on the new state.

Which wasn't of course theirs to divide up.

It was Britians. They took it away from the Ottoman Empire
during the First World War.
The west bank itself had been part of Jordan for about ten
years prior to the Israeli occupation. Which makes it rather
sad, as Israel's gripe -- and war -- was with the government
of Jordan, not the people of the west bank. That war ended
between Israel & Jordan, and the two nations enjoyed a
lasting peace even as the people of the west bank never stopped
being punished for the war they didn't begin.
.
User: "Albert Jackaman"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 13 Oct 2003 11:18:54 AM
"JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:er-dnf-FwozFbh2iU-KYjA@comcast.com...


"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote

srubin5190@aol.com (SRubin5190) wrote:

Excuse me, but I believe it was the United Nations after
WW2 that actually divided up the land, after which all
the Arab nations declared war on the new state.


Which wasn't of course theirs to divide up.


It was Britians. They took it away from the Ottoman Empire
during the First World War.

The west bank itself had been part of Jordan for about ten
years prior to the Israeli occupation. Which makes it rather
sad, as Israel's gripe -- and war -- was with the government
of Jordan, not the people of the west bank. That war ended
between Israel & Jordan, and the two nations enjoyed a
lasting peace even as the people of the west bank never stopped
being punished for the war they didn't begin.

Palestine was an Ottoman possession up to the first world war . It was

made a British mandated territory by the League of Nations, which was
intended to be a means of protecting it and its inhabitants until they
could govern themselves. Due the increasing violence between the Jewish
and Arab populations and the terrorism by the Jewish underground, e.g.the
Stern Gang Britain gave up the mandate in 1947, to the U.N. which was the
successor of the League. David ben Gurian them proclaimed the state of
Isreal and the surrounding Arab states attacked.
.


User: "Peter van Velzen"

Title: Re: Kill palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 06:31:24 PM
Before killing any terrorist - be (s)he palistinian or israeli -
please proof they are guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt.
If you kill them without due process, you are just another terrorist.
Think for yourself
Peter van Velzen October 2003
Atheist#1107
Amstelveen
The Netherlands (Aug 5, 1950)
.


User: "EvilAllahtm"

Title: Re: Kill Palestinian terrorists 05 Oct 2003 05:23:00 PM
SRubin5190 wrote:

Gotta kill the
Israeli terrorists too. After all, they /did/ start the whole thing.


Not really.

Excuse me, but I believe it was the United Nations after WW2 that actually
divided up the land, after which all the Arab nations declared war on the
new state.
Sue in PA

Militant zionists were taking that land, period, after ww2. Thousands were
already on their way before the issue even went up before the UN. All the
United Nations approval did was make the idea nice and legal so far as the
west was concerned.
Of course, this is all pretty irrelevant when you consider that the Israelis
murdered innocent Palestinians and herded them off into camps long before
any Palestinian strapped dynamite to himself. An entire population killed
off or relocated and forced to live under deplorable conditions, just
because Israel decided they didn't want non jews participating in their
elections. Sounds like the hebrew people learned a lot from their old
adversary Adolf Hitler.
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