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King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. |
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In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny Davis
(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king of
"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs. Moon
were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."
Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of the
invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano wrote,
"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."
Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001 welcoming
Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator, he
has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the vision
for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to Moon's
Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean peninsula,
north and south.
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New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special delegate
from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.
"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."
~~~
When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?
~~~
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the
State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or
military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the
State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal
enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of
the=20
State."=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels
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| Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. |
19 May 2005 11:11:00 PM |
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=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <1116520722.129609.88150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
<1116516731.163194.254610@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
=3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
<1116444892.119153.13690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
=3D3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
<1116434835.581696.160280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
=3D3D3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
<1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
=3D3D3D...
Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to
try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!
** Indeed, and he's pretty damn good at it too. I know
another
charismatic guy who is a gifted father-figure and he is
undeniable
proof
that Barnum was right about one being born every minute.
Nobody wants to be what Barnum was suggesting is born
everyday.
** But some are.
But it does make one wonder where we go wrong in teaching
people
the difference when there are so damned many of them to
begin
with.
I don't think simply being born is what does it, altho I
can
imagine
a man like Barnum wanting to believe such of others.
** Barnum knew what made money and what did not.
Perhaps this has something to do with:
"I can believe anything, provided it is incredible." -- Oscar
Wild
People are not born with cognitive skills, they have to
develope
it. Pink Floyds "another brick in the wall" comes to mind
at
this
moment on the subject. Maybe we are teaching our young the
wrong
skills in public schools, and maybe, just maybe it's being
done
on
purpose!
** Is it a vast conspiracy?
The Matrix? Maybe we all need to unplug?
In order to find our own way! The only game in town
is rigged! Still if a person is King of the Hill in
the game. What chance do any of us have?
** only time will tell.
I've read most of the prophecies, and the endtimes scenario
all fits. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. But it's
pitch black inside of it! Nothing lasts forever, thank g-d for
it!
The end of the world, ain't it's selfdestruction, but rather
the end of the illusion people are spellbound with. It's only
natural that a 1000 years of peace would follow it, until it
rears it's ugly head again upon the people.
Like you say, only time will tell. Yet if i were anybody caught
inside the tunnel, I'd sure as hell wanna get out as quick as I
could of it! I wouldn't waste no time doing it either.
** Tunnels are fairly nice during a tornado or a herricane, provided
you
don't meet a train. .
That's not quite what I meant, but I know you are just trying
to lighten up abit. Thanx for it.. ..I'll leave it at that if
you will.
=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734
bd4u
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19 May 2005 12:48:50 PM |
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P.S. Don't expect the beast to die off peacefully.
Expect it to pitch a fit, and take as many people
with it as it can before it's all over. The farther
away from the beast anybody can get will only
add to the chances that they don't sink with it
into the abyss.
Run, run for your lives away from it! Literally..
Don't be dragged down with it!
This may be the ONLY warning anybody gets!
bd4u
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16 May 2005 12:41:15 PM |
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http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm
SUN TZU ON THE ART OF WAR
THE USE OF SPIES (chapter XIII)
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Sun Tzu said: Raising a host of a hundred thousand men and engaging
them in war entails heavy loss on the people and a drain on the
resources. The daily expenditure will amount to a thousand ounces of
silver. There will be commotion at home and abr oad, and men will drop
out exhausted.
Opposing forces may face each other for years, striving for the victory
which may be decided in a single day. This being so, to remain in
ignorance of the enemy's condition simply because one grudges the
outlay of a hundred ounces of silver is the height of stupidity.
One who acts thus is no leader of men, no present help to his cause, no
master of victory. Thus, what enables the wise commander to strike and
conquer, and achieve things beyond the reach of ordinary men, is
foreknowledge. Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits;
it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive
calculation. Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained
from other men.
Hence the use of spies, of whom there are five classes: (1) Local spies
- Having local spies means employing the services of the inhabitants of
an enemy territory; (2) Moles - Having moles means making use of
officials of the enemy; (3) Double agents - Ha ving double agents means
getting hold of the enemy's spies and using them for our own purposes;
(4) Doomed spies - Having doomed spies means doing certain things
openly for purposes of deception, and allowing our spies to know of
them and report them to t he enemy; (5) Surviving spies - Surviving
spies means are those who bring back news from the enemy's camp.
When these five kinds of spy are all at work, none can discover the
secret system. This is called "divine manipulation of the threads." It
is the commander's most precious faculty. Hence it is that which none
in the whole army are more intimate relations to be maintained than
with spies. None should be more liberally rewarded. In no other fields
should greater secrecy be preserved.
(1) Spies cannot be usefully employed without a certain intuitive
sagacity; (2) They cannot be properly managed without benevolence and
straight forwardness; (3) Without subtle ingenuity of mind, one cannot
make certain of the truth of their reports; (4) Be subtle! be subtle!
and use your spies for every kind of warfare; (5) If a secret piece of
news is divulged by a spy before the time is ripe, he must be put to
death together with the man to whom the secret was told.
Whether the object be to crush an enemy, to storm a territory, or to
kill an enemy general, it is always necessary to begin by finding out
the names of the attendants, the aides-de-camp, and door-keepers and
sentries of the general in command. Our spies m ust be commissioned to
ascertain these.
The enemy's spies who have come to spy on us must be sought out,
tempted with bribes, led away and comfortably housed. Thus they will
become double agents and available for our service. It is through the
information brought by the double agent that we are able to acquire and
employ local and inward spies. It is owing to his information, again,
that we can cause the doomed spy to carry false tidings to the enemy.
Lastly, it is by his information that the surviving spy can be used on
appointed occasions. The end and aim of spying in all its five
varieties is knowledge of the enemy; and this knowledge can only be
derived, in the first instance, from the double agent . Hence it is
essential that the double agent be treated with the utmost liberality.
Hence it is only the enlightened and wise general who will use the
highest intelligence of the army for purposes of spying and thereby
they achieve great results. Spies are the most important asset, because
on them depends an army's ability to march.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 May 2005 07:18:37 PM |
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In our last episode <_r-1505051723350001@192.168.1.100>, • R. L. Measures
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
In article <1116180188.473159.78980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny Davis
(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king of
"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs. Moon
were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."
Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable Mark
Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of the
invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano wrote,
"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he deserves
every bit of recognition he receives."
Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001 welcoming
Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator, he
has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the vision
for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to Moon's
Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean peninsula,
north and south.
~~~
http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml
New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special delegate
from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.
"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's Weekly
Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any better
candidate for the next Pope."
• What the hell has he been smoking?...
Campaign donations?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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17 May 2005 05:12:16 AM |
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In article <J9GdndoR9ZDApRTfRVn-tg@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <_r-1505051723350001@192.168.1.100>, • R. L. Measures
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
In article <1116180188.473159.78980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
~~~
...
New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special delegate
from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.
"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's Weekly
Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any better
candidate for the next Pope."
• What the hell has he been smoking?...
Campaign donations?
• guffaw. Good one.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Holygoodman" |
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17 May 2005 05:55:19 AM |
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Jesus Christ was an imposter ,
Why can ' t Moon be an imposter ?
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| User: "" |
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20 May 2005 01:04:50 AM |
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Holygoodman wrote:
Jesus Christ was an imposter ,
Why can ' t Moon be an imposter ?
I am confused by all these weird religions. I understand that the
Moonies practice a ritual called mooning or to give it its full title:
Moon-onanism.
There must have been many of them in the front line of Chairman Mao's
army as they fought over ownership of a little island in the Amur river
with the Soviet army approximately a generation ago
During the cease-fire the Chinese front line troops turned their backs
on the Sovies, lowered their trousers and displayed their bare arses to
the Soviets, Hm was it in winter?
I understand that this practice known as mooning is intended to cause
offence .
The Soviet response was to display large pictures of Chairman Mao
facing the bare arsed Chines.
B C.
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| User: "" |
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20 May 2005 07:44:36 AM |
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Quotes
By
Sun Myung Moon
"I know the established Christian theology. I know the enemy, but the
enemy doesn't know me. Thus the enemy has already lost the war" (Sun
Myung Moon, Today's World, November 1993, p. 14)
"I hate inherited the mission and work, and succeed Jesus in his work.
I am fulfillingwhat Jesus left undone."
(Sun Myung Moon, Unification News, November 1993, p.3)
"Today God's word comes only through Father. If other people receive
God's word, that word is that Reverend Moon is the Messiah." (Sun Myung
Moon, Today's World, January 1995, p.27).
"Abraham was the father of faith, Moses was a man of faith, Jesus was
the son of man, trying to carry out his mission at the cost of his
life. But they are, in a way, failures." (Master Speaks, "Victory of
Defeat"," translated by Won Pok Choi, March 31, 1973, p.1)
"Until our mission with the Christians is over, we must quote the Bible
and use it to explain the Divine Principle. After we receive the
inheritance of the Christian church, we will be free to teach without
the Bible."
(Sun Myung Moon, Master Speaks, #7, p.1)
"Then in one sense, Father, Heavenly Father will say, "Reverend Moon is
far better than me, the Heavenly Father." In a short period of time, he
will synthesize, He will crush the enemy and let them surrender. Our
Master senses this kind of feeling of the Heavenly Father. Also, he is
proud of himself and appreciates that Jesus Christ's unfinished job of
6,000 years has been completed by him in his lifetime." (Sun Myung
Moon, Master Speaks, July 21, 1974)
"The time has come when the whole world must be concemed about me. From
now on, American Christianity must follow me." (Sun Myung Moon, Today's
World, November 1993, p.5)
"Of course, in order that the ministers feel at home, you must declare
your love to Brother Jesus, but at the same time do not forget you
goal, which is to bring them to the Lord of the Second Advent."
(The Victory of Love, 1992, pp. 65-66)
"No matter how difficult your situation may be you have to follow the
Lord of the Second Advent completely ."
(Sun Myung Moon, Today's World, August 1996, p.13)
"Therefore, as individuals and families you have to absolutely follow
True Parents, your opinion cannot stand against True Parents." (Sun
Myung Moon, Today's World, August 1996, p. 9)
"From the beginning, the purpose of Chritianity was so create one world
under God, but they did not know who the true owner was to be. The true
sovereign is not the American president nor the English king, but the
Lord of the Second Advent." Sun Myung Moon, "Returning to the Home
Country," Unification News, November 1993, p. 3)
"During one of the 'Master Speaks' sessions a Unification Church member
asked Rev. Moon, "What will Jesus' position be after the restoration is
accomplished?" To which Rev. Moon replied, " Jesus will be the first
and eldest son, because he was the only one who came to this world as
the Son of God." Seeking clarification the member
then asked, "Do you mean God's eldest son, or the Master's?" (He was
using the title 'Master' in reference to Rev. Moon) Moon responded,
"The meaning is the same." (Sun Myung Moon, Master Speaks, #4, The
Restoration and Judgment, 1965, p.9)
"In early July, I spoke in five cities around Korea at rallies held by
the Women's Federation for World Peace. There I declared that we are
the savior, the Lord of the Second Advent, the Messiah." (Sun Myung
Moon, Today's World,
October/November 1992, p. 7)
more QUOTES BY SUN MYUNG MOON
---Unification Church members are to regard Korea with great reverence
and look forward to the day when the Korean language will be spoken
throughout the world.
--Members are to maintain a view to establishing a "unified
civilization" of the whole world, to be centered in Korea and
"corresponding to that of the Roman Empire."
--God was helping Moon to set up a final battle involving the United
States, Russia, China, North Korea, South Korea, and Japan.
--Moon's plans are to manipulate seven nations at least, to get hold of
the whole world: the United States, England, France, Germany, Russia,
and maybe Korea and Japan. "On God's side, Korea, Japan, America,
England, France, Germany, and Italy, are the nations I count on in
order to gain the whole world," Moon stated.
Sun Myung Moon has also made some statements that should make every
Christian stand up and object, and every American take serious and
careful note. For example:
"The whole world is in my hand, I will conquer and subjugate the
world."
(Sun Myung Moon, Master Speaks, May 17, 1973)
"Am I foolish and insignificant or am I great? I gave all individuals
in the world cause to kneel down in front of me." (Sun Myung Moon,
Today's World, March 1995, p. 6)
"So from this time of peak every person or every organization that goes
against the Unification Church will gradually come down or drastically
come down and die. Many people will die, those who do against our
movement." (Sun Myung Moon, Master Speaks, February 14, 1974)
"Any politician who wants to run for president will come to me in a few
years." (Sun Myung Moon, Today's World, Nov./Dec. 1994, p.19
"In the Medieval ages, they had no separate cities-statesmanship from
the religious field- because people were corrupted at the time. But
when it comes to our age, we must have an automatic theocracy to rule
the world. So we cannot separate the political field from the
religious." (Sun Myung Moon, Master Speaks, May 17, 1973, p.12)
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