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User: ""
Date: 15 May 2005 01:03:08 PM
Object: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope.
~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny Davis
(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king of
"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs. Moon
were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."
Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of the
invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano wrote,
"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."
Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001 welcoming
Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator, he
has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the vision
for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to Moon's
Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean peninsula,
north and south.
~~~
http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml
New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special delegate
from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.
"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."
~~~
When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?
~~~
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the
State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or
military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the
State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal
enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of
the=20
State."=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels
.

User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 01:13:01 PM
wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king of
"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano wrote,
"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001 welcoming
Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~


http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml




New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."

~~~

When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?

Because nobody in their right mind would worry about the old fart.

~~~

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as

the




State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or
military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the
State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal
enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of
the=20
State."=20
=20
=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels

.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 01:35:12 PM
wrote:

gigo...@netscape.net wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~



http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml




New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."

~~~

When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?


Because nobody in their right mind would worry about the old

fart.
Yeah, they made the same excuse for Hitler as he consolidated *power*
too! Nobody really took his claims seriously, except for the greedy
few who wanted the same thing for themselves too! Moon's church is
worldwide, has weapons plants, newspapers worldwide, and over 100,000
strong devotees (SS) willing to live AND die for him too! Same thing
Hitler had to start WWII, but then why would Moon need an Army?
He's got the USA Commander in Chief influenced.
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030728Baker.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=3D/c/a/2004/10/03/MNG4M936HP=
1=2EDTL
bd4u



~~~

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as

the




State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or
military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the
State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the

mortal

enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy

of

the
State."=20
=20
=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels

.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 02:04:00 PM
wrote:

PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com wrote:

wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his

wife.

Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and

Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants

offered

jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The

Honorable

Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member

of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state

senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~




http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml




New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of

any

better candidate for the next Pope."

~~~

When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?


Because nobody in their right mind would worry about the old

fart.

Yeah, they made the same excuse for Hitler as he consolidated *power*
too! Nobody really took his claims seriously, except for the greedy
few who wanted the same thing for themselves too! Moon's church is
worldwide, has weapons plants, newspapers worldwide, and over 100,000
strong devotees (SS) willing to live AND die for him too! Same thing
Hitler had to start WWII, but then why would Moon need an Army?
He's got the USA Commander in Chief influenced.

You might have a point if Moon was the ruler of a country; he is
not. I don't think anyone would worry about a known crackpot cult
leader actually taking anything over other than the minds of a few who
are a bit unstable. He is not nor ever has been a threat to taking
over the world.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030728Baker.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=3D/c/a/2004/10/03/MNG4M936HP=
1=2EDTL


bd4u



~~~

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time

as

the




State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or
military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for

the

State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the

mortal

enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest

enemy

of

the
State."
=20
=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels

.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 02:15:37 PM
wrote:

gigo...@netscape.net wrote:

wrote:

gigo...@netscape.net wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep.

Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his

wife.

Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the

king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and

Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants

offered

jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The

Honorable

Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member

of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state

senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church

and

affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart

to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~





http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml




New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said

Sen.

Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with

Albuququerque's

Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of

any

better candidate for the next Pope."

~~~

When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?


Because nobody in their right mind would worry about the old

fart.

Yeah, they made the same excuse for Hitler as he consolidated

*power*

too! Nobody really took his claims seriously, except for the greedy
few who wanted the same thing for themselves too! Moon's church is
worldwide, has weapons plants, newspapers worldwide, and over

100,000

strong devotees (SS) willing to live AND die for him too! Same

thing

Hitler had to start WWII, but then why would Moon need an Army?
He's got the USA Commander in Chief influenced.


You might have a point if Moon was the ruler of a country; he is
not. I don't think anyone would worry about a known crackpot cult
leader actually taking anything over other than the minds of a few

who

are a bit unstable. He is not nor ever has been a threat to taking
over the world.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what they said about Hitler in 1932!
They were right he never did do it, but look at what happened
because he was *allowed* to go untouched by such rationalization
as yours!
One day the world will wake up to Moon, until then go back to sleep
like ya were, dude! I'm just warning people.. ..and wondering to
myself how people can be such *tools*!
bd4u


http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030728Baker.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=3D/c/a/2004/10/03/MNG4M936HP=
1=2EDTL


bd4u



~~~

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people

will

eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such

time

as

the




State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or
military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for

the

State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the

mortal

enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest

enemy

of

the
State."
=20
=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels

.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 02:32:30 PM
wrote:

PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com wrote:

wrote:

PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com wrote:

wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep.

Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his

wife.

Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the

king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and

Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants

offered

jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other

than

humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped"

into

attending once the event became known to the public. "The

Honorable

Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a

member

of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week,

Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state

senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church

and

affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed

the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart

to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~






http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml




New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said

Sen.

Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with

Albuququerque's

Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think

of

any

better candidate for the next Pope."

~~~

When will the world wake up? Why are so many public officials
so quiet about MOON?


Because nobody in their right mind would worry about the

old

fart.

Yeah, they made the same excuse for Hitler as he consolidated

*power*

too! Nobody really took his claims seriously, except for the

greedy

few who wanted the same thing for themselves too! Moon's church

is

worldwide, has weapons plants, newspapers worldwide, and over

100,000

strong devotees (SS) willing to live AND die for him too! Same

thing

Hitler had to start WWII, but then why would Moon need an Army?
He's got the USA Commander in Chief influenced.


You might have a point if Moon was the ruler of a country; he

is

not. I don't think anyone would worry about a known crackpot cult
leader actually taking anything over other than the minds of a few

who

are a bit unstable. He is not nor ever has been a threat to taking
over the world.


Yeah, that's EXACTLY what they said about Hitler in 1932!
They were right he never did do it, but look at what happened
because he was *allowed* to go untouched by such rationalization
as yours!

You never answered the question: Of what country is Moon the ruler?
He is NOT a political force. If you are so concerned and think that
there is a REAL threat, then gabbing on the usenet is about as useful
as wetting yourself. Write a formal letter to your State
Representative, your State Senators, Your Federal Representative and
your Federal Senators and copy it to the President. Outline what are
the exact military/security threats posed by this individual and demand
that something be done about it within two weeks or you will confront
the media with these actual threats and explain to the entire
country/world how you personally wwarned the government and they did
absolutely nothing. If you think it's a serious threat to U.S./world
peace, how can you conscionably just sit on your arse and do f-all
about it? Put your voice forward loudly where it will actually have an
effect. How can you not?


One day the world will wake up to Moon, until then go back to sleep
like ya were, dude! I'm just warning people.. ..and wondering to
myself how people can be such *tools*!

Don't warn me, there's not much I can do. I don't have the
FBI/CIA/NSA/MI5/MI6/Mossad at my disposal. If you feel there's a clear
and present danger, then you have to speak to someone who DOES have
some real influence. Otherwise, it's just wasted breath.

bd4u



http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030728Baker.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html




http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=3D/c/a/2004/10/03/MNG4M936HP=
1=2EDTL


bd4u



~~~

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people

will

eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such

time

as

the




State can shield the people from the political, economic

and/or

military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important

for

the

State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is

the

mortal

enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest

enemy

of

the
State."
=20
=20
Hitlers Propaganda Minister Goebbels

.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 04:14:53 PM
wrote:


You might have a point if Moon was the ruler of a country; he is
not. I don't think anyone would worry about a known crackpot cult
leader actually taking anything over other than the minds of a few
who are a bit unstable. He is not nor ever has been a threat to
taking over the world.


Yeah, that's EXACTLY what they said about Hitler in 1932!
They were right he never did do it, but look at what happened
because he was *allowed* to go untouched by such rationalization
as yours!

One day the world will wake up to Moon, until then go back to sleep
like ya were, dude! I'm just warning people.. ..and wondering to
myself how people can be such *tools*!

bd4u

The times Hitler lived in had a lot to do with his rise to power. We do not
live in the abject poverty as a nation that Germany was in at the time.
There are many other christian groups with the same ideas and much larger
membership in the US and if I worried about any religious group it would
not be the moonies but the scientologists.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 04:27:24 PM
Is anybody even bothering to read the links?
I didn't go out of my way to research them
just so people could ignor them and focus on
my comments.
bd4u
.
User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 08:31:57 PM
wrote:

Is anybody even bothering to read the links?
I didn't go out of my way to research them
just so people could ignor them and focus on
my comments.

Probably not and your comment that the moonies and scientologists are in
cahoots would give more people the clue that you are just another person who
knows about "Them"
Most of us know that the Illuminati is the group that controls all your
groups and the top level of *us* knows who controls them.
Ever been to Mad Dog, Texas?
Know anything about submarines?
How about secret Korean martial arts?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 09:28:08 PM
Mike Painter wrote:

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

Is anybody even bothering to read the links?
I didn't go out of my way to research them
just so people could ignor them and focus on
my comments.


Probably not and your comment that the moonies and scientologists are

in

cahoots

Not quite my words. I said they were "collaborating" which is true!

would give more people the clue that you are just another person who
knows about "Them"

Maybe because like many people I was once influenced by Moon too
and loosely affiliated with his Church for many years, until I realized
the TRUTH!


Most of us know that the Illuminati is the group that controls all

your

groups and the top level of *us* knows who controls them.

Ever been to Mad Dog, Texas?
Know anything about submarines?
How about secret Korean martial arts?

I don't know anything about the above that -you- mention.
But I do know about Moon's conspiratorial nature as reported
in the Frazer Investigation in the seventies, and proof exists
that he hasn't discontinued, he has only gotten more powerful
due largely to people disbelieving it's true, and giving him
room to do it!
Moon said in one of his speeches something to the effect;
"My enemies do not know me, for this reason they are already defeated"
Why is this true? Read the same book MOON did, and teaches his
cronies from too! Sun Tzu's "The Art of war"..
http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm
Intel, Counter Intel, misdirection, redirection, influence, affluence
it's all in there. The truth is finally out, on the practices of Moon!
Now the question remains what to do about it. More than likely
nothing will be done about it, as Moon will probably selfdestruct
and take everybody following him with him, just like all megalomaniacs
do! Ignoring him won't get rid of him, any more than it did Hitler.
The results are often catastrophic too!
bd4u
.
User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 16 May 2005 12:33:19 AM
wrote:

Mike Painter wrote:

wrote:

Is anybody even bothering to read the links?
I didn't go out of my way to research them
just so people could ignor them and focus on
my comments.


Probably not and your comment that the moonies and scientologists
are in cahoots


Not quite my words. I said they were "collaborating" which is true!

would give more people the clue that you are just another person who
knows about "Them"


Maybe because like many people I was once influenced by Moon too
and loosely affiliated with his Church for many years, until I
realized the TRUTH!


Most of us know that the Illuminati is the group that controls all
your groups and the top level of *us* knows who controls them.

Ever been to Mad Dog, Texas?
Know anything about submarines?
How about secret Korean martial arts?


I don't know anything about the above that -you- mention.
But I do know about Moon's conspiratorial nature as reported
in the Frazer Investigation in the seventies, and proof exists
that he hasn't discontinued, he has only gotten more powerful
due largely to people disbelieving it's true, and giving him
room to do it!

Moon said in one of his speeches something to the effect;
"My enemies do not know me, for this reason they are already defeated"
Why is this true? Read the same book MOON did, and teaches his
cronies from too! Sun Tzu's "The Art of war"..

http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm

Intel, Counter Intel, misdirection, redirection, influence, affluence
it's all in there. The truth is finally out, on the practices of Moon!
Now the question remains what to do about it. More than likely
nothing will be done about it, as Moon will probably selfdestruct
and take everybody following him with him, just like all megalomaniacs
do! Ignoring him won't get rid of him, any more than it did Hitler.
The results are often catastrophic too!

Ummm, there were quite a few people in Germany who did not ignore him but
supported him. I don't believe any modern goveernment has the loopholes in
their constitutions that would allow a "Hitler" to take control of a
government today, even if he was part of it.
He started in 1954 and is 85 now.I doubt the next few years will add much
to his current power.
I also suspect that there is no one that can take his place.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 16 May 2005 10:35:35 AM
Mike Painter wrote:

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

Mike Painter wrote:

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

Is anybody even bothering to read the links?
I didn't go out of my way to research them
just so people could ignor them and focus on
my comments.


Probably not and your comment that the moonies and scientologists
are in cahoots


Not quite my words. I said they were "collaborating" which is true!

would give more people the clue that you are just another person

who

knows about "Them"


Maybe because like many people I was once influenced by Moon too
and loosely affiliated with his Church for many years, until I
realized the TRUTH!


Most of us know that the Illuminati is the group that controls all
your groups and the top level of *us* knows who controls them.

Ever been to Mad Dog, Texas?
Know anything about submarines?
How about secret Korean martial arts?


I don't know anything about the above that -you- mention.
But I do know about Moon's conspiratorial nature as reported
in the Frazer Investigation in the seventies, and proof exists
that he hasn't discontinued, he has only gotten more powerful
due largely to people disbelieving it's true, and giving him
room to do it!

Moon said in one of his speeches something to the effect;
"My enemies do not know me, for this reason they are already

defeated"

Why is this true? Read the same book MOON did, and teaches his
cronies from too! Sun Tzu's "The Art of war"..

http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm

Intel, Counter Intel, misdirection, redirection, influence,

affluence

it's all in there. The truth is finally out, on the practices of

Moon!

Now the question remains what to do about it. More than likely
nothing will be done about it, as Moon will probably selfdestruct
and take everybody following him with him, just like all

megalomaniacs

do! Ignoring him won't get rid of him, any more than it did Hitler.
The results are often catastrophic too!


Ummm, there were quite a few people in Germany who did not ignore him

but

supported him. I don't believe any modern goveernment has the

loopholes in

their constitutions that would allow a "Hitler" to take control of a
government today, even if he was part of it.

Moon is a Puppet Master, he doesn't rule he manipulates. He doesn't
need the placement to achieve his goals just the public image of
it. He is already King of Israel and the USA by his own standards
of public endorsement. There are enuff people in positions of
power to do the ruling for him, and it's currently escalating.
Moon's people are working at a desperate pace to acheive victory
by 2012. Even tho the puppets don't know where Moon is going,
only the Puppet Master needs to know how to manipulate them.


He started in 1954 and is 85 now.

His age makes no difference as long as he has people doing all
the work for him.
I doubt the next few years will add much

to his current power.

It was just this past year he was crowned King in the US Capital.

I also suspect that there is no one that can take his place.

Him being a megalomaniac I doubt if it's his prime concern really.
It's not his reign -you- need to worry about it's the ensuing
chaos and proliferation of his social dis-ease as he attempts to
acheive it. Moon is making carbon copies of himself (megalomaniacs)
with his brainwashing methods, some of them are even more dangerous
and creepy than he is.
bd4u
.





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Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 04:23:38 PM
Mike Painter wrote:

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:


You might have a point if Moon was the ruler of a country; he

is

not. I don't think anyone would worry about a known crackpot cult
leader actually taking anything over other than the minds of a few
who are a bit unstable. He is not nor ever has been a threat to
taking over the world.


Yeah, that's EXACTLY what they said about Hitler in 1932!
They were right he never did do it, but look at what happened
because he was *allowed* to go untouched by such rationalization
as yours!

One day the world will wake up to Moon, until then go back to sleep
like ya were, dude! I'm just warning people.. ..and wondering to
myself how people can be such *tools*!

bd4u

The times Hitler lived in had a lot to do with his rise to power. We

do not

live in the abject poverty as a nation that Germany was in at the

time.


There are many other christian groups with the same ideas and much

larger

membership in the US and if I worried about any religious group it

would

not be the moonies but the scientologists.

*moonies* and scientologists are collaborating. But like with Bushes
PNAC Platoon and Moon, who is leading whom?
bd4u
.


User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 02:31:34 PM
Be sure to check the links people! Don't let anybody
dissuade -you- from finding out for yourselves.
~~~
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030728Baker.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10/03/MNG4M936HP1.DTL
~~~
bd4u
.





User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 07:23:34 PM
In article <1116180188.473159.78980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny Davis
(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king of
"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs. Moon
were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of the
invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano wrote,
"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001 welcoming
Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator, he
has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the vision
for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to Moon's



Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean peninsula,
north and south.


~~~

http://www.realsideradio.com/r=ADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=ADeading.ht=
ml



New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special delegate
from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."

• What the hell has he been smoking?...
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 15 May 2005 08:51:04 PM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116180188.473159.78980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~


http://www.realsideradio.com/r=3DADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=3DADeadin=
g=2Eht=3D

ml



New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."


=B7 What the hell has he been smoking?...

The mentality of *moonies*, go figure.. ..Mark Boitano is a Senator
from New Mexico that has been involved with Sun Myung Moon for 30
years.
*moonies* deploy themselves covertly into positions of power to placate
Moon's take over of the world. One of the links lists alot of people
covertly
working for Sun Myung Moon in the same capacity. Condolezza Rice had
her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's ACLC
magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like all the others
do!
If people only knew how deep all MOON's moles of influence reach in
the US government, it's truely scary.
bd4u

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 16 May 2005 07:29:11 AM
In article <1116208264.531391.19610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116180188.473159.78980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep. Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his wife.
Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants offered
jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The Honorable
Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church and
affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~


http://www.realsideradio.com/r=3DADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=3DADeadin=
g=2Eht=3D

ml



New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said Sen.
Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with Albuququerque's
Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of any
better candidate for the next Pope."


8** What the hell has he been smoking?...


The mentality of *moonies*, go figure.. ..Mark Boitano is a Senator
from New Mexico that has been involved with Sun Myung Moon for 30
years.
*moonies* deploy themselves covertly into positions of power to placate
Moon's take over of the world. One of the links lists alot of people
covertly
working for Sun Myung Moon in the same capacity. Condolezza Rice had
her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's ACLC
magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like all the others
do!

** Condolezza Rice can forget about running for any public office.


If people only knew how deep all MOON's moles of influence reach in
the US government, it's truely scary.

** Can you think of a better name for a lunatic?
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 16 May 2005 10:43:32 AM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116208264.531391.19610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116180188.473159.78980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

~~~
In the Dirksen Senate Office Building, a white-gloved Rep.

Danny

Davis

(D-Ill.) placed jeweled crowns upon the heads of Moon and his

wife.

Robes of nobility draped their shoulders. Moon was named the

king

of

"the second and third Israels," whatever that means. Rev. and

Mrs.

Moon

were announced as the "True Father and Mother." Supplicants

offered

jewels on pillows. Moon declared himself to be "none other than
humanity's Savior, Messiah and Returning Lord."


Some congressmen in the audience claimed they were "duped" into
attending once the event became known to the public. "The

Honorable

Mark Boitano, state senator, New Mexico" was listed as a member

of

the

invitation committee. In an e-mail exchange last week, Boitano

wrote,

"Reverend Moon is the most remarkable person I've ever met-he
deserves every bit of recognition he receives."


Boitano certainly knows Moon. He co-hosted an event in 2001

welcoming

Moon at the Albuquerque Marriott. Using his title as state

senator,

he

has frequently spoken at events for Moon's Unification Church

and

affiliated groups. In December 2003 in Chicago he discussed the

vision

for the American Family Party, the United States' counterpart

to

Moon's




Korean Family Party, which seeks to govern the entire Korean

peninsula,

north and south.


~~~



http://www.realsideradio.com/r=3D3DADealsideradio/2005/04/boitano_h=3D3DADe=
adin=3D

g=3D2Eht=3D3D

ml



New Mexico State Senator Mark Boitano is off to Rome, special

delegate

from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the College of Cardinals.


"The Rev. Moon is the most amazing person I ever met," said

Sen.

Boitano, repeating a line from his interview with

Albuququerque's

Weekly Alibi (see "The Messiah's Senator"). "I can't think of

any

better candidate for the next Pope."


8** What the hell has he been smoking?...


The mentality of *moonies*, go figure.. ..Mark Boitano is a

Senator

from New Mexico that has been involved with Sun Myung Moon for 30
years.
*moonies* deploy themselves covertly into positions of power to

placate

Moon's take over of the world. One of the links lists alot of

people

covertly
working for Sun Myung Moon in the same capacity. Condolezza Rice

had

her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's ACLC
magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like all the

others

do!


** Condolezza Rice can forget about running for any public office.

So far she hasn't needed to!
;-)


If people only knew how deep all MOON's moles of influence reach in
the US government, it's truely scary.


** Can you think of a better name for a lunatic?

Precisely why he chose the name to begin with, IMHO. With any
rational mind thinking so, who would possibly believe him capable
of anything.
The book by Sun Tzu "The Art of War" describes exactly what Moon does,
and why he does it. As long as people doubt Moon capable of anything
but a looney, they won't touch him.

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

bd4u
.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 16 May 2005 06:25:38 PM
In article <1116258212.595488.258700@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116208264.531391.19610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=... Condolezza Rice had
her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's ACLC
magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like all the others
do!


** Condolezza Rice can forget about running for any public office.


So far she hasn't needed to!

;-)

** There's talk about running 2008.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 17 May 2005 06:24:19 AM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116258212.595488.258700@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116208264.531391.19610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D... Condolezza Rice had
her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's ACLC
magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like all

the others

do!


** Condolezza Rice can forget about running for any public

office.


So far she hasn't needed to!

;-)

** There's talk about running 2008.

Who knows what Moon can do if the opportunity were to present itself.
Word has it, Moon got Bush elected. I know Moon has bragged that
politicians will be coming to him in the future to get elected.
So watch and see if it happens.

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 17 May 2005 10:07:38 AM
In article <1116329059.590917.83160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116258212.595488.258700@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116208264.531391.19610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D... Condolezza Rice had
her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's ACLC
magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like all

the others

do!


** Condolezza Rice can forget about running for any public

office.


So far she hasn't needed to!

;-)

** There's talk about running 2008.


Who knows what Moon can do if the opportunity were to present itself.
Word has it, Moon got Bush elected.

** it was Rove.

I know Moon has bragged that
politicians will be coming to him in the future to get elected.
So watch and see if it happens.

** Any U. S. polirician who hitches his wagon to "Messiah" Moon's
bandwagon is political history. Rev. Moon is a megalomaniac who suffers
from first-class delusions of grandeur.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 17 May 2005 10:43:58 PM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116329059.590917.83160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116258212.595488.258700@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116208264.531391.19610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D3D... Condolezza Rice had
her picture on the cover with centerpage spread of Moon's

ACLC

magazine.
Naturally she denies any conflict of interests just like

all

the others

do!


** Condolezza Rice can forget about running for any public

office.


So far she hasn't needed to!

;-)

** There's talk about running 2008.


Who knows what Moon can do if the opportunity were to present

itself.

Word has it, Moon got Bush elected.


** it was Rove.

I know Moon has bragged that
politicians will be coming to him in the future to get elected.
So watch and see if it happens.


** Any U. S. polirician who hitches his wagon to "Messiah" Moon's
bandwagon is political history. Rev. Moon is a megalomaniac who

suffers

from first-class delusions of grandeur.

As long as Moon can hide the illusion of his from the world.
Or in other words as Goebbel suggested, *The LIE can be kept
from the publics opinion* Moon is free to ply his trade as
PuppteMaster, and the whole world is his stage. Eventually
the public opinion will rise to the occaision, it always has
in the past, and I have no doubt it will this time as well,
my only thought really is where is the end to this parade.
When will the public wise up, and police itself so these
megalomaniacs are not allowed to continuously run amuck!
They used to put such people away where they couldn't hurt
anybody, why did they ever stop? Let me guess, they invented
apologetics. Humanity?!? What's humaine about what Moon and
Scientology does turning peoples cognitive brains to mush!

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

bd4u
.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 18 May 2005 05:59:33 AM
In article <1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116329059.590917.83160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

...

** Any U. S. polirician who hitches his wagon to "Messiah" Moon's
bandwagon is political history. Rev. Moon is a megalomaniac who

suffers

from first-class delusions of grandeur.


As long as Moon can hide the illusion of his from the world.
Or in other words as Goebbel suggested, *The LIE can be kept
from the publics opinion* Moon is free to ply his trade as
PuppteMaster, and the whole world is his stage.

** Much of the world is already onto "Messiah" Moon.

Eventually
the public opinion will rise to the occaision, it always has
in the past, and I have no doubt it will this time as well,
my only thought really is where is the end to this parade.
When will the public wise up, and police itself so these
megalomaniacs are not allowed to continuously run amuck!

** The Internet is slowly doing a number on religious scam artists.
Scientology is on its way to becoming a joke.


They used to put such people away where they couldn't hurt
anybody, why did they ever stop? Let me guess, they invented
apologetics. Humanity?!? What's humaine about what Moon and
Scientology does turning peoples cognitive brains to mush!

** Mormons, Catholics, SDAs and JWs suffer from the same malady, but to a
lesser extent.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 18 May 2005 11:47:15 AM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116329059.590917.83160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

...

** Any U. S. polirician who hitches his wagon to "Messiah"

Moon's

bandwagon is political history. Rev. Moon is a megalomaniac who

suffers

from first-class delusions of grandeur.


As long as Moon can hide the illusion of his from the world.
Or in other words as Goebbel suggested, *The LIE can be kept
from the publics opinion* Moon is free to ply his trade as
PuppteMaster, and the whole world is his stage.


** Much of the world is already onto "Messiah" Moon.

Eventually
the public opinion will rise to the occaision, it always has
in the past, and I have no doubt it will this time as well,
my only thought really is where is the end to this parade.
When will the public wise up, and police itself so these
megalomaniacs are not allowed to continuously run amuck!


** The Internet is slowly doing a number on religious scam artists.
Scientology is on its way to becoming a joke.


They used to put such people away where they couldn't hurt
anybody, why did they ever stop? Let me guess, they invented
apologetics. Humanity?!? What's humaine about what Moon and
Scientology does turning peoples cognitive brains to mush!

** Mormons, Catholics, SDAs and JWs suffer from the same malady, but

to a

lesser extent.

I gotta keep telling myself those things every day, cause I
also see others that deny any relevance to any of it!
"Nothing lasts forever", I keep telling myself. I will be so
glad when it's all done and over with, and it's in the past
instead of a threat to everybody!
Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

bd4u
.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 18 May 2005 02:12:39 PM
In article <1116434835.581696.160280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116329059.590917.83160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

...

** Any U. S. polirician who hitches his wagon to "Messiah" Moon's
bandwagon is political history. Rev. Moon is a megalomaniac who

suffers from first-class delusions of grandeur.

As long as Moon can hide the illusion of his from the world.
Or in other words as Goebbel suggested, *The LIE can be kept
from the publics opinion* Moon is free to ply his trade as
PuppteMaster, and the whole world is his stage.


** Much of the world is already onto "Messiah" Moon.

Eventually
the public opinion will rise to the occaision, it always has
in the past, and I have no doubt it will this time as well,
my only thought really is where is the end to this parade.
When will the public wise up, and police itself so these
megalomaniacs are not allowed to continuously run amuck!


** The Internet is slowly doing a number on religious scam artists.
Scientology is on its way to becoming a joke.


They used to put such people away where they couldn't hurt
anybody, why did they ever stop? Let me guess, they invented
apologetics. Humanity?!? What's humaine about what Moon and
Scientology does turning peoples cognitive brains to mush!

** Mormons, Catholics, SDAs and JWs suffer from the same malady, but to a
lesser extent.


I gotta keep telling myself those things every day, cause I
also see others that deny any relevance to any of it!

** The relevance is that all are salvation business that make money.

"Nothing lasts forever", I keep telling myself. I will be so
glad when it's all done and over with, and it's in the past
instead of a threat to everybody!

Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!

** Indeed, and he's pretty damn good at it too. I know another
charismatic guy who is a gifted father-figure and he is undeniable proof
that Barnum was right about one being born every minute.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 18 May 2005 02:34:52 PM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116434835.581696.160280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116329059.590917.83160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

...

** Any U. S. polirician who hitches his wagon to "Messiah"

Moon's

bandwagon is political history. Rev. Moon is a megalomaniac

who

suffers from first-class delusions of grandeur.

As long as Moon can hide the illusion of his from the world.
Or in other words as Goebbel suggested, *The LIE can be kept
from the publics opinion* Moon is free to ply his trade as
PuppteMaster, and the whole world is his stage.


** Much of the world is already onto "Messiah" Moon.

Eventually
the public opinion will rise to the occaision, it always has
in the past, and I have no doubt it will this time as well,
my only thought really is where is the end to this parade.
When will the public wise up, and police itself so these
megalomaniacs are not allowed to continuously run amuck!


** The Internet is slowly doing a number on religious scam

artists.

Scientology is on its way to becoming a joke.


They used to put such people away where they couldn't hurt
anybody, why did they ever stop? Let me guess, they invented
apologetics. Humanity?!? What's humaine about what Moon and
Scientology does turning peoples cognitive brains to mush!

** Mormons, Catholics, SDAs and JWs suffer from the same malady,

but to a

lesser extent.


I gotta keep telling myself those things every day, cause I
also see others that deny any relevance to any of it!


** The relevance is that all are salvation business that make money.

"Nothing lasts forever", I keep telling myself. I will be so
glad when it's all done and over with, and it's in the past
instead of a threat to everybody!

Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!

** Indeed, and he's pretty damn good at it too. I know another
charismatic guy who is a gifted father-figure and he is undeniable

proof

that Barnum was right about one being born every minute.

Nobody wants to be what Barnum was suggesting is born everyday.
But it does make one wonder where we go wrong in teaching people
the difference when there are so damned many of them to begin with.
I don't think simply being born is what does it, altho I can imagine
a man like Barnum wanting to believe such of others.
People are not born with cognitive skills, they have to develope
it. Pink Floyds "another brick in the wall" comes to mind at this
moment on the subject. Maybe we are teaching our young the wrong
skills in public schools, and maybe, just maybe it's being done on
purpose!

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

bd4u
.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 18 May 2005 09:28:11 PM
In article <1116444892.119153.13690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116434835.581696.160280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=...

Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!

** Indeed, and he's pretty damn good at it too. I know another
charismatic guy who is a gifted father-figure and he is undeniable

proof

that Barnum was right about one being born every minute.


Nobody wants to be what Barnum was suggesting is born everyday.

** But some are.

But it does make one wonder where we go wrong in teaching people
the difference when there are so damned many of them to begin with.
I don't think simply being born is what does it, altho I can imagine
a man like Barnum wanting to believe such of others.

** Barnum knew what made money and what did not.
Perhaps this has something to do with:
"I can believe anything, provided it is incredible." -- Oscar Wild

People are not born with cognitive skills, they have to develope
it. Pink Floyds "another brick in the wall" comes to mind at this
moment on the subject. Maybe we are teaching our young the wrong
skills in public schools, and maybe, just maybe it's being done on
purpose!

** Is it a vast conspiracy?
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 19 May 2005 10:32:11 AM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116444892.119153.13690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116434835.581696.160280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D...

Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!

** Indeed, and he's pretty damn good at it too. I know another
charismatic guy who is a gifted father-figure and he is

undeniable

proof

that Barnum was right about one being born every minute.


Nobody wants to be what Barnum was suggesting is born everyday.


** But some are.

But it does make one wonder where we go wrong in teaching people
the difference when there are so damned many of them to begin with.
I don't think simply being born is what does it, altho I can

imagine

a man like Barnum wanting to believe such of others.

** Barnum knew what made money and what did not.
Perhaps this has something to do with:
"I can believe anything, provided it is incredible." -- Oscar Wild

People are not born with cognitive skills, they have to develope
it. Pink Floyds "another brick in the wall" comes to mind at this
moment on the subject. Maybe we are teaching our young the wrong
skills in public schools, and maybe, just maybe it's being done on
purpose!

** Is it a vast conspiracy?

The Matrix? Maybe we all need to unplug?
In order to find our own way! The only game in town
is rigged! Still if a person is King of the Hill in
the game. What chance do any of us have?
.. 666

=20
--=20
Rich. 805.386.3734

.
User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 19 May 2005 11:05:30 AM
In article <1116516731.163194.254610@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116444892.119153.13690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116434835.581696.160280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D3DB7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article

<1116387838.093715.164730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3D...

Speaking of Catholics, it would make sense for Moon to try
and replace the Pope. Moon is such a *FATHER* figure to
his own followers as it is!

** Indeed, and he's pretty damn good at it too. I know another
charismatic guy who is a gifted father-figure and he is

undeniable

proof

that Barnum was right about one being born every minute.


Nobody wants to be what Barnum was suggesting is born everyday.


** But some are.

But it does make one wonder where we go wrong in teaching people
the difference when there are so damned many of them to begin with.
I don't think simply being born is what does it, altho I can

imagine

a man like Barnum wanting to believe such of others.

** Barnum knew what made money and what did not.
Perhaps this has something to do with:
"I can believe anything, provided it is incredible." -- Oscar Wild

People are not born with cognitive skills, they have to develope
it. Pink Floyds "another brick in the wall" comes to mind at this
moment on the subject. Maybe we are teaching our young the wrong
skills in public schools, and maybe, just maybe it's being done on
purpose!

** Is it a vast conspiracy?


The Matrix? Maybe we all need to unplug?

In order to find our own way! The only game in town
is rigged! Still if a person is King of the Hill in
the game. What chance do any of us have?

** only time will tell.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.
User: ""

Title: Re: King of Israel Sung Myung Moon seeks to become next Pope. 19 May 2005 11:38:42 AM
=B7 R. L. Measures wrote:

In article <1116516731.163194.254610@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

=3DB7 R. L. Measures wrot