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User: "Bunn E. Rabbit"
Date: 30 Mar 2005 12:53:09 AM
Object: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007
Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?
--
Keith
Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1111980180248
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Khaled Abu Toameh, THE JERUSALEM POST Mar. 29, 2005
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A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to
exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian
scholar Ziad Silwadi.
The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims
worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in
the Koran. It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger
than that which recently struck southeast Asia.
"The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what
awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The
Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin
will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."
Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah – the home of
Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal – is not a world-renowned scholar. He said
he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of
responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking
and frightening."
His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on
the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US.
"It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US
that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak
nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he
added."The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster
occurs because of the great services that American society has
rendered to the economy, industry and science."
Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native
Americans and blacks.
"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered
by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called
Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they
began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from
their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were
brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who
became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."
Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and
"ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to
use nuclear weapons during World War II.
"International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws
were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If no
one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains
able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a
big archive called the Koran."
Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters)
in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate
heinous sins actually refer to the US.
As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura,
which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he
on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the
rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up
by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem
Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their
own souls."
Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same "sin"
of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran
mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by
drowning for his evil deeds.
The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown
in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any
god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was
unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that
they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and his
hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the
unjust [verses 38-40]."
Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the
scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the
Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in
the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231
years.
How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of
suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US
achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the
result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.
In his lengthy study, which is being circulated in many Muslim
countries, Silwadi noted that the US has often been compared to a tree
that grows very quickly and bears fruit, but has no roots.
In an attempt to find a reference to this metaphor in the Koran,
Silwadi said he counted 1776 verses from the beginning of the Koran
until he reached verse 26 of the Ibrahim Sura, which states: "And the
parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth's
surface; it has no stability."
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 01:13:43 AM
"Bunn E. Rabbit" <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote

Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?

No. It means Bush's "hard work" will be done.
.

User: "Part_Time_Troll"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 02:38:14 AM
Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> in
news:usik41d468cdvb2qmjd4a4qcpdvqhkrgvc@4ax.com:

Koran reveals that the US will cease to
exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian
scholar Ziad Silwadi.

trying to beat pat robertson's record?
--
You can die for my typo sins, but I won't.
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User: "Mr. Red"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 12:31:12 PM
In article <Xns96296D991CC5p@64.85.239.19>, "Part_Time_Troll"
<Part_Time_Troll@D_Bridge.Com> wrote:

Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> in
news:usik41d468cdvb2qmjd4a4qcpdvqhkrgvc@4ax.com:

Koran reveals that the US will cease to
exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian
scholar Ziad Silwadi.

Nope!
Artie and Snoory and Hoaxie and Shitley and Damsey will pool their multiple
talents and save the day, just in the Nick of Time!!!
Mr. Red
--
"In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror,
murder, bloodshed -- but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and
the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, 500 years of
democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
--Harry Lyme
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User: "jackboot"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 03:12:56 AM
Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message
news:usik41d468cdvb2qmjd4a4qcpdvqhkrgvc@4ax.com...



Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?
--
Keith

Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=
1111980180248


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Khaled Abu Toameh, THE JERUSALEM POST Mar. 29, 2005


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

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A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to
exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian
scholar Ziad Silwadi.

The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims
worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in
the Koran. It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger
than that which recently struck southeast Asia.

"The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what
awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The
Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin
will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."

Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah - the home of
Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal - is not a world-renowned scholar. He said
he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of
responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking
and frightening."

His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on
the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US.

"It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US
that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak
nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he
added."The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster
occurs because of the great services that American society has
rendered to the economy, industry and science."

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native
Americans and blacks.

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered
by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called
Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they
began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from
their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were
brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who
became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and
"ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to
use nuclear weapons during World War II.

"International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws
were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If no
one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains
able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a
big archive called the Koran."

Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters)
in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate
heinous sins actually refer to the US.

As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura,
which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he
on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the
rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up
by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem
Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their
own souls."

Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same "sin"
of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran
mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by
drowning for his evil deeds.

The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown
in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any
god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was
unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that
they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and his
hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the
unjust [verses 38-40]."

Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the
scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the
Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in
the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231
years.

How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of
suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US
achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the
result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

In his lengthy study, which is being circulated in many Muslim
countries, Silwadi noted that the US has often been compared to a tree
that grows very quickly and bears fruit, but has no roots.

In an attempt to find a reference to this metaphor in the Koran,
Silwadi said he counted 1776 verses from the beginning of the Koran
until he reached verse 26 of the Ibrahim Sura, which states: "And the
parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth's
surface; it has no stability."

If his theory has any merit (which beyond the superstitious, it does not)
one has to wonder what "sins" the many thousands of Indonesian Muslims were
punished by Allah for?
.

User: "Kenny Leong"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 04 Apr 2005 04:12:45 PM
Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message news:<usik41d468cdvb2qmjd4a4qcpdvqhkrgvc@4ax.com>...

Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?
--
Keith

Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1111980180248

*snip*

"Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the

Native

Americans and blacks."

I guess that this means that the planners of the 911 attack go to hell
for their sins against mankind. Also...does Silwadi seriously think
that his own people have never caused great sins against mankind as
well? This is a real case of the pot calling the kettle ......
.
User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 04 Apr 2005 09:51:20 PM
On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,
(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<29154d7c.0504041312.6fcb1dbb@posting.google.com>:

Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message news:<usik41d468cdvb2qmjd4a4qcpdvqhkrgvc@4ax.com>...

Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?
--
Keith

Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1111980180248


*snip*

"Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the

Native

Americans and blacks."


I guess that this means that the planners of the 911 attack go to hell
for their sins against mankind. Also...does Silwadi seriously think
that his own people have never caused great sins against mankind as
well? This is a real case of the pot calling the kettle ......

As our last act as a nation, I say we let loose all the missiles. ALL
of them, with Mecca and Medina as #1 and #2 on the target list.
--
V.G.
"i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" - AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
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.
User: "Kenny Leong"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 06 Apr 2005 04:32:42 PM
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<m7v3515ccppt1ieclvvp6g60v8oclv5k0u@4ax.com>...

On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?
I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 06 Apr 2005 05:48:51 PM
"Kenny Leong" <
> wrote in message
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in

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On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.

Do you honestly think that the US doesn't use professional assassins?
Jihad by any other name would stink as much as any other kind of jihad.
.
User: "Kenny Leong"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 06 Apr 2005 11:44:08 PM
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<esadnUNc4pXM-snfRVn-pg@comcast.com>...

"Kenny Leong" <

> wrote in message
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On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.


Do you honestly think that the US doesn't use professional assassins?

That I don't honestly know, although I've heard of stories on tv about
that. Maybe they really have pro assassins.

Jihad by any other name would stink as much as any other kind of jihad.

True...but what I mean about jihad is when the whole country is
prepared to go bananas (or nuts/fanatical) to fight another....or a
large bunch go bananas and don't mind to wipe out a few thousand
innocent civilians in the one blow.
Kenny
.

User: "wcb"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 06 Apr 2005 08:18:13 PM
Michelle Malkin wrote:


"Kenny Leong" <

> wrote in message
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in

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On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.


Do you honestly think that the US doesn't use professional assassins?
Jihad by any other name would stink as much as any other kind of jihad.

We use B-52s.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 01:03:03 AM
"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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Michelle Malkin wrote:


"Kenny Leong" <

> wrote in message
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in

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On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.


Do you honestly think that the US doesn't use professional assassins?
Jihad by any other name would stink as much as any other kind of jihad.



We use B-52s.

We also use individual assassins.



--

When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!

Cheerful Charlie

.

User: "sdq"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 03:22:13 PM
wcb wrote:



We use B-52s.


Rock Lobster !!!
.


User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 12:11:14 AM
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:48:51 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


"Kenny Leong" <

> wrote in message
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in

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On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.


Do you honestly think that the US doesn't use professional assassins?
Jihad by any other name would stink as much as any other kind of jihad.


Sure we do. But only on low key players. When was the last time big
wigs got waxed?
Gunner
Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"
.


User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 06 Apr 2005 10:41:14 PM
On 6 Apr 2005 14:32:42 -0700,
(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<29154d7c.0504061332.34ca8dde@posting.google.com>:

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<m7v3515ccppt1ieclvvp6g60v8oclv5k0u@4ax.com>...

On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.

If "we" were the monsters "they" claim us to be, they wouldn't be
around to complain about it. The irony is not lost on me. Glass as
far as the eye can see. "Nuke 'em 'til they glow, and shoot 'em in
the dark."
--
V.G.
"i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" - AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
.
User: "Gio Medici"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 05:10:29 PM
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote
about:

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.


If "we" were the monsters "they" claim us to be, they wouldn't be
around to complain about it. The irony is not lost on me. Glass as
far as the eye can see. "Nuke 'em 'til they glow, and shoot 'em in
the dark."

"We" want slaves and usable real estate.
Gio
.

User: "Kenny Leong"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 05:43:19 AM
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<fsa951hcne2b5m275msb7tdc5njiugfkjc@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2005 14:32:42 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<29154d7c.0504061332.34ca8dde@posting.google.com>:

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<m7v3515ccppt1ieclvvp6g60v8oclv5k0u@4ax.com>...

On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.


If "we" were the monsters "they" claim us to be, they wouldn't be
around to complain about it. The irony is not lost on me. Glass as
far as the eye can see. "Nuke 'em 'til they glow, and shoot 'em in
the dark."

You're right about that. If we were monsters that they claim, they
surely would not be around to complain about that. With the amount of
nukes we got, it'd be possible to blow everything off the face of this
planet. But this is where western countries might differ from middle
east countries. The western countries probably have a good long think
about it before doing anything drastic. While certain middle east
countries might go completely bananas from something really
minor....like accidently running over a camel or something.
.


User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 12:10:36 AM
On 6 Apr 2005 14:32:42 -0700,
(Kenny Leong)
wrote:

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<m7v3515ccppt1ieclvvp6g60v8oclv5k0u@4ax.com>...

On 4 Apr 2005 14:12:45 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message


i would blame them it they went on a holy jihad and killed off all

the infidels, would you?

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.

Only if their medicine resembles glassy craters in a moonscape.
Gunner
Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"
.
User: "Kenny Leong"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 07 Apr 2005 05:34:18 AM
Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote in message news:<a5g951d18hhvqo2rdg8lmd5q7sb5gasga9@4ax.com>...

On 6 Apr 2005 14:32:42 -0700,

(Kenny Leong)
wrote:

I reckon that they're just lucky that the western countries don't have
a jihad policy....because if USA had a jihad policy.....holy crap.
Those currently existing jihad countries would really have a good
taste of their own medicine.



Only if their medicine resembles glassy craters in a moonscape.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

That's really true. If USA went on a jihad...holy geeez. Glassy
craters in a moonscape alright. Yah...I guess the USA medicine would
definitely be a lot stronger ... like extra strength
Cepacol/Strepsils.
Kenny
.





User: ""

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 04 Apr 2005 04:34:24 PM
Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:

Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?
--
Keith

Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1111980180248



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Khaled Abu Toameh, THE JERUSALEM POST Mar. 29, 2005



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to
exist in the year 2007, according to research published by

Palestinian

scholar Ziad Silwadi.

The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims
worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in
the Koran. It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger
than that which recently struck southeast Asia.

"The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what
awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The
Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin
will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."

Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah - the home

of

Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal - is not a world-renowned scholar. He

said

he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of
responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking
and frightening."

His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on
the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US.

"It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US
that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak
nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he
added."The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster
occurs because of the great services that American society has
rendered to the economy, industry and science."

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the

Native

Americans and blacks.

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world

discovered

by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called
Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they
began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from
their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were
brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who
became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the

fish."


Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and
"ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to
use nuclear weapons during World War II.

"International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws
were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If

no

one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains
able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a
big archive called the Koran."

Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters)
in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate
heinous sins actually refer to the US.

As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura,
which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he
on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the
rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up
by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem
Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their
own souls."

Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same

"sin"

of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran
mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by
drowning for his evil deeds.

The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown
in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any
god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was
unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that
they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and

his

hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the
unjust [verses 38-40]."

Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the
scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the
Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in
the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231
years.

How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number

of

suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US
achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the
result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

In his lengthy study, which is being circulated in many Muslim
countries, Silwadi noted that the US has often been compared to a

tree

that grows very quickly and bears fruit, but has no roots.

In an attempt to find a reference to this metaphor in the Koran,
Silwadi said he counted 1776 verses from the beginning of the Koran
until he reached verse 26 of the Ibrahim Sura, which states: "And the
parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth's
surface; it has no stability."

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See, this is one reason I am not a religious scholar. I would have
thought that the Koran would not be using the Christian calendar.
If this doesn't happen will he renounce his belief that the Koran can
be used for such predictions?
Kermit
.

User: "jetgraphics"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 02 Apr 2005 01:46:48 PM
Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native
Americans and blacks.

ROFLMAO - it was MUSLIM slavers that sold the west African unbelievers to
the Portuguese and English slavers.
.
User: "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 02 Apr 2005 02:07:29 PM
In article <jDC3e.8640$aV7.2248@fe02.lga>,
jetgraphics <jetgraphics@no_spamcharter.net> wrote:

Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native
Americans and blacks.

any natural disaster that overwhelms the sierra nevada and rocky mountains
is going to send a wave of water a mile high over south asia
arf meow arf - dogs and cats living together
the erisian constancy - though chaos is transformed
but never lost to sea - grey ordered ranks are swarmed
.


User: "1MAN4ALL"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 09:40:40 AM
I too can find some numbers in the Holy Quran and prove that this guy
is a loony.
.
User: "Michael E Craney"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 09:48:46 AM
In article <1112197240.475448.91600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
forahmad@hotmail.com says...

I too can find some numbers in the Holy Quran and prove that this guy
is a loony.


ROTFLAMO!
Mike
.


User: "Fredski"

Title: Re: Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007 30 Mar 2005 09:52:43 AM
Oh woe to the United States of America for a brain dead, pig fucking,
low life, islamic koran scholar has spoken. Oh woe, woe, woe.
Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:


Does this mean no more islamic monsters will be emigrating to the US?
--
Keith

Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1111980180248

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Khaled Abu Toameh, THE JERUSALEM POST Mar. 29, 2005


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to
exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian
scholar Ziad Silwadi.

The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims
worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in
the Koran. It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger
than that which recently struck southeast Asia.

"The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what
awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The
Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin
will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."

Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah – the home of
Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal – is not a world-renowned scholar. He said
he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of
responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking
and frightening."

His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on
the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US.

"It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US
that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak
nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he
added."The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster
occurs because of the great services that American society has
rendered to the economy, industry and science."

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish
mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native
Americans and blacks.

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered
by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called
Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they
began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from
their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were
brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who
became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and
"ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to
use nuclear weapons during World War II.

"International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws
were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If no
one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains
able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a
big archive called the Koran."

Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters)
in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate
heinous sins actually refer to the US.

As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura,
which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he
on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the
rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up
by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem
Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their
own souls."

Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same "sin"
of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran
mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by
drowning for his evil deeds.

The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown
in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any
god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was
unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that
they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and his
hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the
unjust [verses 38-40]."

Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the
scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the
Koran. He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in
the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231
years.

How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of
suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US
achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the
result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

In his lengthy study, which is being circulated in many Muslim
countries, Silwadi noted that the US has often been compared to a tree
that grows very quickly and bears fruit, but has no roots.

In an attempt to find a reference to this metaphor in the Koran,
Silwadi said he counted 1776 verses from the beginning of the Koran
until he reached verse 26 of the Ibrahim Sura, which states: "And the
parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth's
surface; it has no stability."

-------------------------------------

Fed up with illegal immigration?
_____
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/listarticles.cgi?117
http://www.saveourstate.org
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frostyA.htm
http://www.americanpatrol.com/LINKS/LINKS.html
http://www.vdare.com/links.htm
http://www.stoptheinvasion.com/links/
_____

"Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death
of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
_____

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon
_____

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