Religions > Atheism > Landmark breakthrough could defuse ethics debate on stem cells
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26 Nov 2007 10:55:56 PM |
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Landmark breakthrough could defuse ethics debate on stem cells |
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/370634.html
Landmark breakthrough could defuse ethics debate on stem cells
By MALCOLM RITTER
NEW YORK | For a scientific breakthrough, it is remarkably simple.
Yet it promises to change one of the most divisive debates of modern
medicine and religion: the use of human embryos for research.
Scientists in the United States and Japan showed that a relatively easy lab
technique can rival the complex and highly controversial idea of cloning
embryos and extracting stem cells from them.
It was a landmark achievement on all fronts, lauded Tuesday by scientists,
ethicists and religious groups.
"This work represents a tremendous scientific milestone - the biological
equivalent of the Wright brothers' first airplane," said Robert Lanza, whose
company, Advanced Cell Technology, has been trying to extract stem cells
from cloned human embryos.
Laurie Zoloth, a bioethicist at Northwestern University, said: "It redefines
the ethical terrain."
The Rev. Thomas Berg of the Westchester Institute, a Roman Catholic think
tank, said: "It's a win-win for everyone involved. We have a way to move
forward, which . brings the kind of painful national debate over this
controversial research to very much a peaceful and promising resolution."
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J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Nov 2007 01:41:39 AM |
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J Young <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
Jesus was a leftist, nazi boy.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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27 Nov 2007 12:52:40 AM |
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On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Nov 2007 06:37:27 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:52:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
What is a leftist?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "G.B." |
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27 Nov 2007 07:44:52 AM |
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On Nov 27, 1:37 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:52:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
What is a leftist?
What you're the opposite of...
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Nov 2007 11:23:18 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:44:52 -0800 (PST), "G.B." <bennetwithonet@post.com>
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On Nov 27, 1:37 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:52:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
What is a leftist?
What you're the opposite of...
Actually, Jesus was very compassionate to the unfortunate, as I am, and he was a
staunch supporter of law and order as I am, and he called us to love one another
as I do, and he loved his Father, as I do.
So perhaps, feller, you can be a little more specific.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "" |
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27 Nov 2007 04:12:43 PM |
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On 27 Nov., 18:23, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:44:52 -0800 (PST), "G.B." <bennetwitho...@post.com>
wrote:
On Nov 27, 1:37 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:52:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
What is a leftist?
What you're the opposite of...
Actually, Jesus was very compassionate to the unfortunate, as I am,
False: you built weapons to kill him/her. Remember?
and he was a
staunch supporter of law and order as I am,
Which "law and order"? Not his country's... That's a difference with
you...
and he called us to love one another
as I do, and he loved his Father, as I do.
So perhaps, feller, you can be a little more specific.
OK: Jesus was modest and you're vain. Jesus was cultured and you're an
idiot. Jesus was honest and you're a hypocrite.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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27 Nov 2007 03:01:40 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:23:18 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:44:52 -0800 (PST), "G.B." <bennetwithonet@post.com>
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On Nov 27, 1:37 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:52:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
What is a leftist?
What you're the opposite of...
Actually, Jesus was very compassionate to the unfortunate, as I am, and he was a
staunch supporter of law and order as I am, and he called us to love one another
as I do, and he loved his Father, as I do.
So perhaps, feller, you can be a little more specific.
Jesus was an anti establishment, anti capitalist, socialist, as was
the early xtian church
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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27 Nov 2007 12:52:20 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:52:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
What is a leftist?
Look at Jesus as a model, puke. Read that Bible you pretend to follow.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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27 Nov 2007 05:16:20 AM |
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On Nov 27, 7:52 am, wrote:
On 27 nov, 05:55, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
What's "leftist" about something designed to cure people?
Oh, that's right: compassion...
BTW, your Jesus was a "leftist"
He hates Jesus.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Landmark breakthrough could defuse ethics debate on stem cells |
27 Nov 2007 08:48:00 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:55:56 -0500, J Young wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
Reprogramming cell DNA eh?
One more step toward curing religion!
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You know what my favorite thing in the world is?
I'll tell you.
Each week, millions and millions of upper middle class American
citizens put on expensive dress clothes, load themselves into
suv's and drive past homeless shelters, orphanages, prisons,
missions and halfway houses on their way to a very expensive
and nice church, where someone tells them to be more like Jesus.
That is fucking awesome, let me tell you."
http://tinyurl.com/2uglqf
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| User: "David Schwartz" |
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26 Nov 2007 11:54:52 PM |
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On Nov 26, 8:55 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
It was a landmark achievement on all fronts, lauded Tuesday by scientists,
ethicists and religious groups.
I wish I was an eloquent enough speaker to express in words the way I
feel about this. I commend the heroic efforts of these scientists and
researchers to get the luddites to approve their research, and I mourn
the wasted effort, past and present that luddites have caused.
We are, again, one step further away from using stem cells to help
people. Before, it was that we were stuck with existing stem cell
lines that were prepared in ways that made them unsuitable for
transplantation into humans. Now we're using a technique that can't
produce transplantation-quality cells yet.
So either we waste time figuring out how to get it to do produce such
quality cells or we do more and more research with dead-end cells.
One more reason to curse the crazy luddites who demand technology bend
to their superstitions.
DS
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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27 Nov 2007 05:07:41 AM |
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On Nov 27, 6:54 am, David Schwartz <dav...@webmaster.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:55 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
It was a landmark achievement on all fronts, lauded Tuesday by scientists,
ethicists and religious groups.
I wish I was an eloquent enough speaker to express in words the way I
feel about this. I commend the heroic efforts of these scientists and
researchers to get the luddites to approve their research, and I mourn
the wasted effort, past and present that luddites have caused.
We are, again, one step further away from using stem cells to help
people. Before, it was that we were stuck with existing stem cell
lines that were prepared in ways that made them unsuitable for
transplantation into humans. Now we're using a technique that can't
produce transplantation-quality cells yet.
So either we waste time figuring out how to get it to do produce such
quality cells or we do more and more research with dead-end cells.
One more reason to curse the crazy luddites who demand technology bend
to their superstitions.
DS
That reads eloquent enough for me :-). Good post. I agree completely.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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27 Nov 2007 05:12:45 AM |
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On Nov 27, 6:54 am, David Schwartz <dav...@webmaster.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:55 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
It was a landmark achievement on all fronts, lauded Tuesday by scientists,
ethicists and religious groups.
I wish I was an eloquent enough speaker to express in words the way I
feel about this. I commend the heroic efforts of these scientists and
researchers to get the luddites to approve their research, and I mourn
the wasted effort, past and present that luddites have caused.
We are, again, one step further away from using stem cells to help
people. Before, it was that we were stuck with existing stem cell
lines that were prepared in ways that made them unsuitable for
transplantation into humans. Now we're using a technique that can't
produce transplantation-quality cells yet.
So either we waste time figuring out how to get it to do produce such
quality cells or we do more and more research with dead-end cells.
One more reason to curse the crazy luddites who demand technology bend
to their superstitions.
DS
Your message was eloquently rendered.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?=" |
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27 Nov 2007 05:13:56 AM |
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On Nov 27, 5:55 am, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
A huge blow to the leftist culture of death
Jesus was a leftist. Of course, we know how much you despise him.
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