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"J Young" |
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11 Sep 2006 03:54:00 PM |
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Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms. Most large chains provide
the service, along with standard-issue films.
The pay-per-view service has brought hotels millions of dollars a year. But
these days, the US hotel business is also attracting moral outrage and
vitriol - on a scale that pornography insiders say amounts to one of the
largest organized assaults on the skin business in recent memory.
A consortium of 13 conservative groups has created CleanHotels.com, a
website that provides listings and reservation services for US hotels where
travelers can rest safe from taint or temptation. The conservative groups
have also run a series of full-page ads in USA Today, urging authorities to
prosecute hoteliers under federal and local obscenity statutes.
Currently, the listings on CleanHotels.com number between 13,000 and
15,000 - mostly including small chains, with a notable one being Omni
Hotels. Many in the pornography industry contend the effort won't have much
effect on their business, but those on the other side are equally adamant
they can make a difference.
"We wanted to provide an alternative," says Phil Burress, president of
Citizens for Community Values, an Ohio-based "pro-family" organization that
is part of the consortium. "Not only were we disgusted with the fact that
major hotels that present themselves as being family-friendly were offering
hard-core pornography ... we wanted to point out the fact that there are
thousands and thousands of hotels that do not offer in-room pornography."
The strategy, Mr. Burress says, is to expose hotels that offer pay-per-view
porn and let the market take care of the rest.
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "No One" |
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11 Sep 2006 04:19:47 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms.
More idiocy from J. Young! If they have to pay to see it (and can't
get it on a TV accidentally while switching channels), they are not
being subjected to it unwillingly - according to the article Young
cites (but apparently has not read):
"All the protective measures are in place. It's not like you
can go into a hotel room and turn on a television set and
pornography comes blaring out," says Kathy Shepard,
spokeswoman for Hilton Hotels, which offers the service to
guests in all its nonfranchised properties. "The majority of
our guests recognize that it's a choice that's made available
for those who want to participate. It's an added cost."
If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
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| User: "Eudaemonic Plague" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
11 Sep 2006 04:27:44 PM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
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: > The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never
rest.
: > Americans who are traveling, especially with their families,
should not be
: > subjected to such filth.
: >
: > http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
: >
: > A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and
directs
: > people to smut-free lodging.
: >
: > It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's
corporate
: > culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms.
:
: More idiocy from J. Young! If they have to pay to see it (and can't
: get it on a TV accidentally while switching channels), they are not
: being subjected to it unwillingly - according to the article Young
: cites (but apparently has not read):
:
: "All the protective measures are in place. It's not like you
: can go into a hotel room and turn on a television set and
: pornography comes blaring out," says Kathy Shepard,
: spokeswoman for Hilton Hotels, which offers the service to
: guests in all its nonfranchised properties. "The majority of
: our guests recognize that it's a choice that's made
available
: for those who want to participate. It's an added cost."
:
: If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
: subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are
watching
: some G rated movie.
He just can't resist the TEMPTATION! IOW, he's a pornaholic......that
figures.
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| User: "gatt" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
11 Sep 2006 04:24:41 PM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3irju6r0d.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves. That's why they need laws to punish
the provider of their vice.
It's like punishing gun dealers and gun owners for the activity of
criminals.
-c
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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11 Sep 2006 09:22:08 PM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
news:tukNg.352$ya1.109@news02.roc.ny...
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3irju6r0d.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves. That's why they need laws to
punish the provider of their vice.
It's like punishing gun dealers and gun owners for the activity of
criminals.
Actually, it would be tough to imagine it being any less like that, but
OK....
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| User: "gatt" |
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12 Sep 2006 12:11:34 PM |
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"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in message
news:QPKdnS0X2qGeh5vYnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Guys like Young can't help themselves. That's why they need laws to
punish the provider of their vice.
It's like punishing gun dealers and gun owners for the activity of
criminals.
Actually, it would be tough to imagine it being any less like that, but
OK....
The people who make the decision to use things in an improper manner (for
whatever values of "improper" are assigned whether it's committing a crime
or watching boobies on Pay Per View) are responsible for their own actions,
and taking the rights away of people who -can- control themselves is frowned
upon heavily by most of Young's confused little ideological circle. IE, "We
can't sell guns because you might buy one and commit a crime..."
Thanks for your thought-provoking and insightful critique all the same.
-c
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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12 Sep 2006 08:33:25 PM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
news:aTBNg.397$Ka1.188@news01.roc.ny...
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in message
news:QPKdnS0X2qGeh5vYnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Guys like Young can't help themselves. That's why they need laws to
punish the provider of their vice.
It's like punishing gun dealers and gun owners for the activity of
criminals.
Actually, it would be tough to imagine it being any less like that, but
OK....
The people who make the decision to use things in an improper manner (for
whatever values of "improper" are assigned whether it's committing a crime
or watching boobies on Pay Per View) are responsible for their own
actions, and taking the rights away of people who -can- control themselves
is frowned upon heavily by most of Young's confused little ideological
circle. IE, "We can't sell guns because you might buy one and commit a
crime..."
Gun dealers and owners have proven unequivocally that they are unable to
keep their guns from getting into the hands of those who would use them to
commit very serious crimes and/or have horrible accidents, either through
carelessness or deliberate action. While there can be many proposed
solutions to this issue, this fact is not in dispute. There is no doubt
that, collectively, gun owners and dealers bear some responsibility for the
easy access that criminals have to guns, to the detriment of all of us. Even
the so-called "responsible" gun owners are not entirely in the clear on this
point, for it is their demand for weapons which helps to make their prices
affordable for the irresponsible ones. And yet, even with all of these
problems, there is no question that guns *can* be useful in preventing
crime, and when the toothpaste of gun ownership is out of the proverbial
tube, it seems perverse to withold them from law-abiding people who feel
unsafe without them.
In the end, my point is simply that it's a complex issue, compared with the
rather straightforward matter of what people watch on hotel TVs. There is
simply no parallel to hotel pay-per-view porn that makes any sense in this
regard. The types of "crimes" and their implications are simply too
different, and your comparison stretched credulity, at least to me. I
realize you are trying to make a point about personal responsibility that
that social authoritarians miss all too often, but increasing the world's
"porn supply" and increasing the world's "gun supply" have pretty dissimilar
consequences that deserve entirely different levels of deliberation.
Thanks for your thought-provoking and insightful critique all the same.
Glad I could be of service.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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11 Sep 2006 04:34:43 PM |
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In article <tukNg.352$ya1.109@news02.roc.ny> "gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> writes:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves.
Apparently not, since they need to seek out lodgings where they
will be "safe from taint or temptation".
-- cary
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| User: "Ockhams Razor" |
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11 Sep 2006 07:07:12 PM |
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In article <ee4kpj$g8c$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <tukNg.352$ya1.109@news02.roc.ny> "gatt"
<LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> writes:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3irju6r0d.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves.
Apparently not, since they need to seek out lodgings where they
will be "safe from taint or temptation".
NBo, they want to know where they can get it. This is a convienient
filter for a negative choice.
--
There are two ways to spell Ockham/Occam. Britannica prefers the former.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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11 Sep 2006 09:02:05 PM |
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In article <Mencken-D4A5F1.17070711092006@nntp0.pdx.net> Ockham's Razor <Mencken@pdx.net> writes:
In article <ee4kpj$g8c$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <tukNg.352$ya1.109@news02.roc.ny> "gatt"
<LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> writes:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3irju6r0d.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves.
Apparently not, since they need to seek out lodgings where they
will be "safe from taint or temptation".
NBo, they want to know where they can get it. This is a convienient
filter for a negative choice.
"taint or temptation" to me sounds a bit more fraught than, say,
"one lump or two?"
- cary
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| User: "Attila" |
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11 Sep 2006 07:35:33 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:24:41 GMT, "gatt"
<LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tukNg.352$ya1.109@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves. That's why they need laws to punish
the provider of their vice.
They cannot stand the idea of anyone doing anything they would not
approve. It's a control freak thing prevalent among religions.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Curt" |
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11 Sep 2006 07:51:38 PM |
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"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:24:41 GMT, "gatt"
<LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tukNg.352$ya1.109@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3irju6r0d.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's not like they are flashing
subliminal "buy porn" messages on the TV screen while you are watching
some G rated movie.
Guys like Young can't help themselves. That's why they need laws to
punish
the provider of their vice.
They cannot stand the idea of anyone doing anything they would not
approve. It's a control freak thing prevalent among religions.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
Hahahaha.. "They hate us for our freedoms."
Curt
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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12 Sep 2006 12:16:20 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
Why do you hate everyone else so much, IBen? For some reason, when Dale and I
visited Las Vegas twice in the last decade, the hotels we stayed at (Luxor and
Palace Station) had porn channels available...but we were too busy seeing the
sights to bother with watching TV.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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12 Sep 2006 01:32:57 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Aamdnf9Q_LjSUJjYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com...
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
Why can't these fucks just mind their own business? If you don't like it,
don't buy it.
Besides, some of us enjoy a little hotel porn now and then.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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| User: "Mike Dundee" |
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11 Sep 2006 08:47:53 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Aamdnf9Q_LjSUJjYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com...
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms. Most large chains
provide
the service, along with standard-issue films.
The pay-per-view service has brought hotels millions of dollars a year.
But
these days, the US hotel business is also attracting moral outrage and
vitriol - on a scale that pornography insiders say amounts to one of the
largest organized assaults on the skin business in recent memory.
A consortium of 13 conservative groups has created CleanHotels.com, a
website that provides listings and reservation services for US hotels
where
travelers can rest safe from taint or temptation. <snip>
You can't be serious. What's next, the internet? I have stayed in hotels
that
offer ppv, and it's a matter of CHOICE to watch it or not. Same goes for the
net, you can search for porn or not. Just because it's there doesn't make
you
watch it. This is insane.
If you agree with their stand then you need to cancel your internet access
IMMEDIATELY because you might be tempted to look at something.
If you don't cancel your net access, you're a hypocrite.
I don't view porn because as a Christian, it's wrong for me to do so. But
you
can not legislate morality.
All this shows yet again is that fundamentalist Christians are obsessed with
sex. It offends me because *I* am a Christian and don't like it that I am
lumped
in with the rest of these groups that do this.
Remember Mr Young...
1Cor:10:13: There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man:
but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are
able;
but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able
to bear it.
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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12 Sep 2006 08:35:20 PM |
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"Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com> wrote in message
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I don't view porn because as a Christian, it's wrong for me to do so.
Since when?
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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12 Sep 2006 09:42:18 PM |
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"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in message
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"Mike Dundee" <none@nunya.com> wrote in message
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I don't view porn because as a Christian, it's wrong for me to do so.
Since when?
I know. I just peed my pants.
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| User: "gatt" |
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11 Sep 2006 04:23:04 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Aamdnf9Q_LjSUJjYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com...
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
They ought to either throw out those Bibles or offer the Koran while they're
at it.
J Young demonstrates why radical conservatism is anti-American. Apparently,
it's a free country until somebody decides to do what they want on their
private property. Then the self-righteous "fight for morality" types want
to step in and tell the owner what they can't do.
Never happen. Young, every time you submit a post here, a Bible bursts into
flames.
-c
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12 Sep 2006 02:27:07 PM |
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But you engage in such "filth" in your own home. What a hypocrite!
J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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11 Sep 2006 06:31:38 PM |
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Got that right!
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J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms. Most large chains provide
the service, along with standard-issue films.
The pay-per-view service has brought hotels millions of dollars a year. But
these days, the US hotel business is also attracting moral outrage and
vitriol - on a scale that pornography insiders say amounts to one of the
largest organized assaults on the skin business in recent memory.
A consortium of 13 conservative groups has created CleanHotels.com, a
website that provides listings and reservation services for US hotels where
travelers can rest safe from taint or temptation. The conservative groups
have also run a series of full-page ads in USA Today, urging authorities to
prosecute hoteliers under federal and local obscenity statutes.
Currently, the listings on CleanHotels.com number between 13,000 and
15,000 - mostly including small chains, with a notable one being Omni
Hotels. Many in the pornography industry contend the effort won't have much
effect on their business, but those on the other side are equally adamant
they can make a difference.
"We wanted to provide an alternative," says Phil Burress, president of
Citizens for Community Values, an Ohio-based "pro-family" organization that
is part of the consortium. "Not only were we disgusted with the fact that
major hotels that present themselves as being family-friendly were offering
hard-core pornography ... we wanted to point out the fact that there are
thousands and thousands of hotels that do not offer in-room pornography."
The strategy, Mr. Burress says, is to expose hotels that offer pay-per-view
porn and let the market take care of the rest.
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| User: "gatt" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
11 Sep 2006 07:08:38 PM |
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The strategy, Mr. Burress says, is to expose hotels that offer
pay-per-view
porn and let the market take care of the rest.
I'm sure they'll appreciate the advertising.
-c
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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12 Sep 2006 09:59:58 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
And you'll never stop promoting hatred and evil and immmorality.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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12 Sep 2006 05:48:52 AM |
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J Young schrieb:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
No one is subjecting anyone to pornography (which, btw, is legal to
watch, buy and own in the US) since it's on pay-tv..
Why are you such a hypocrite, J Young?
Oh, I forgot, "J Young's posting using the word decency #6543 and the
nazi still doesn't know the meaning of that word.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms. Most large chains provi=
de
the service, along with standard-issue films.
The pay-per-view service has brought hotels millions of dollars a year. B=
ut
these days, the US hotel business is also attracting moral outrage and
vitriol - on a scale that pornography insiders say amounts to one of the
largest organized assaults on the skin business in recent memory.
A consortium of 13 conservative groups has created CleanHotels.com, a
website that provides listings and reservation services for US hotels whe=
re
travelers can rest safe from taint or temptation. The conservative groups
have also run a series of full-page ads in USA Today, urging authorities =
to
prosecute hoteliers under federal and local obscenity statutes.
Currently, the listings on CleanHotels.com number between 13,000 and
15,000 - mostly including small chains, with a notable one being Omni
Hotels. Many in the pornography industry contend the effort won't have mu=
ch
effect on their business, but those on the other side are equally adamant
they can make a difference.
"We wanted to provide an alternative," says Phil Burress, president of
Citizens for Community Values, an Ohio-based "pro-family" organization th=
at
is part of the consortium. "Not only were we disgusted with the fact that
major hotels that present themselves as being family-friendly were offeri=
ng
hard-core pornography ... we wanted to point out the fact that there are
thousands and thousands of hotels that do not offer in-room pornography."
The strategy, Mr. Burress says, is to expose hotels that offer pay-per-vi=
ew
porn and let the market take care of the rest.
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J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "cor" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
12 Sep 2006 02:32:50 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
Is pay per view, stupid.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
12 Sep 2006 02:59:45 PM |
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In article <45070B62.15FCEA8B@exchangenet.net> cor <cor@exchangenet.net> writes:
J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
Is pay per view, stupid.
But you never know when JYoung's ilk may weaken. Thus
the reference to hotels in which they will not be
exposed to "taint and temptation".
-- cary
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| User: "" |
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11 Sep 2006 10:04:37 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms.
Do you know what PAY-PER-VIEW means, idiot? Oh, I hear the dollars in
your wallet screaming to get out. How dare that mean ol' hotel tempt
them that way!
Nomination: JYoung for president of the Clueless Club.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "johac" |
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12 Sep 2006 01:14:04 AM |
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In article <1158030276.983602.170530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0906/p03s03-ussc.html
A campaign urges prosecution of hotels under obscenity laws - and directs
people to smut-free lodging.
It's a business that has become quietly entrenched in America's corporate
culture: pay-per-view pornography in hotel rooms.
Do you know what PAY-PER-VIEW means, idiot? Oh, I hear the dollars in
your wallet screaming to get out. How dare that mean ol' hotel tempt
them that way!
I wonder which porno flicks J Young watches?
Nomination: JYoung for president of the Clueless Club.
Seconded.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
11 Sep 2006 08:48:27 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
Yeah, like it has to be used, and that folks are forced to change it to
the porn channel...
What sort of zombies are these people? "Umm... TV... MUST TURN IT ON!!!"
Pathetic.
Oh. It's Mr. Burress. The "holy warrior" who couldn't honor marriage.
But whom will honor Visa, Master Card, Discover...
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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12 Sep 2006 02:23:24 AM |
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J Young wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
Hey, retard, the porn doesn't just magically appear on the TV in your
hotel room; you have to BUY IT. If you don't want it, don't buy it; it's
that simple.
And if you're so concerned about removing filth from hotel rooms, take
the Bible that you'll inevitably find in your hotel room and throw it
away. More filth can be found in the Bible than in any porn film.
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" |
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12 Sep 2006 05:42:59 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:54:00 -0400,
Repressive. Wanna-be CENSOR,
"Jon Young"/"IBen getiner" PARROTED:
...a load of BULLCRAP!
<garbage-flush>
If someone wants to rent ANY kind of movie in a hotel/motel,
that's THEIR business, and absolutely NONE of *yours*, loser.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
11 Sep 2006 07:33:38 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:54:00 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<Aamdnf9Q_LjSUJjYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
Putting aside whether or not it is 'filth', since it must be
deliberately bought and paid for how can anyone who is not interested
be subjected to it?
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "John Baker" |
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11 Sep 2006 05:10:28 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:54:00 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
It's pay per view, you drooling moron. You won't see it unless you ask
for it.
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| User: "Alan Ferris" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
12 Sep 2006 02:20:18 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:54:00 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Americans who are traveling, especially with their families, should not be
subjected to such filth.
As you later state it is a pay for service, can you explain why these
families you want to protect from it are paying for it in the first
place? Or is it the hotels fault that they could not resist the
temptation put before them?
Is this your trouble, can you not resist buying those naughty
magazines and so demand the whole world protect you from yourself?
--
Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Latest antiporn target: hotel-room TV |
11 Sep 2006 04:08:31 PM |
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Porn-addicted perv "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Aamdnf9Q_LjSUJjYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com...
The fight for morality, decency, and family values will never rest.
Trip over your words much, "J"?
"I ain't a Jesus freak... I love porn stars!God bless them."
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404240901.7eb55105@posting.google.com>
"anal stimulation with a ***** helps enhance the spanking experience."
From: (Jon Young)
Newsgroups: soc.sexuality.spanking
Subject: best done with help
Date: 5 Oct 2003 18:00:43 -0700
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310051700.31b4eb95@posting.google.com>
LC~ "J" swears by the Hypocritic Oath.
"How can you, knowing that Google will expose your lies and stupidity,
persist in being such a stupid, lying *****, IBen?"
From:
Message-ID:
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