Religions > Atheism > Latest police weapon in the battle against crime... prayer!!!
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10 Dec 2003 06:59:30 AM |
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Latest police weapon in the battle against crime... prayer!!! |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
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| User: "Geoff Offermann" |
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10 Dec 2003 07:46:33 AM |
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"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
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| User: "Jeff Jones" |
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10 Dec 2003 12:15:45 PM |
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"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
Hah! Do you really think they are going to LET you move after the next
election? I'll say hi when I see you in the "camps".
Jeff Jones
Austin, Texas
aa #2044
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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10 Dec 2003 01:13:56 PM |
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On 10 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:lpJBb.126686$do1.91731@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:YsFBb.499876$Fm2.479743@attbi_s04...
"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
Hah! Do you really think they are going to LET you move after the
next
election? I'll say hi when I see you in the "camps".
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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10 Dec 2003 02:28:25 PM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:lpJBb.126686$do1.91731@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:YsFBb.499876$Fm2.479743@attbi_s04...
"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
Hah! Do you really think they are going to LET you move after the
next
election? I'll say hi when I see you in the "camps".
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Careful, there. That sounds like a threat against the President, aka
treason. They've already disappeared people for less.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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10 Dec 2003 02:45:15 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:28:25 -0800 in alt.atheism, Gregory Gadow
(Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:lpJBb.126686$do1.91731@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:YsFBb.499876$Fm2.479743@attbi_s04...
"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
Hah! Do you really think they are going to LET you move after the
next
election? I'll say hi when I see you in the "camps".
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Careful, there. That sounds like a threat against the President, aka
treason. They've already disappeared people for less.
Hah. At least they can't do that in Engl
an
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<lost carrier> <---- old joke that few understand any more.
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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10 Dec 2003 03:35:30 PM |
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On 10 Dec 2003, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:cc1ftvcc1b8mcq63mgkd08abnf9p6r58im@4ax.com:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:28:25 -0800 in alt.atheism, Gregory Gadow
(Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in news:lpJBb.126686$do1.91731@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:YsFBb.499876$Fm2.479743@attbi_s04...
"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
Hah! Do you really think they are going to LET you move after the
next
election? I'll say hi when I see you in the "camps".
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If
he is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens
and gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and
march on Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in
America.
Careful, there. That sounds like a threat against the President, aka
treason. They've already disappeared people for less.
Hah. At least they can't do that in Engl
an
d
<lost carrier> <---- old joke that few understand any more.
LOL :D
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Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "MarkA" |
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11 Dec 2003 01:30:58 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 +0000, Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:lpJBb.126686$do1.91731@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:YsFBb.499876$Fm2.479743@attbi_s04...
"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't move to after the
next election.
Hah! Do you really think they are going to LET you move after the
next
election? I'll say hi when I see you in the "camps".
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he is,
it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and gets him
to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
He could still be around because the gang that has the best chance to oust
him is so busy trying to "out-liberal" each other they will forget that
most voters don't want an extreme liberal OR an extreme conservative
running the show. If the Dems think that the ticket to the Oval Office is
to rally the support of all those who blame Bush for the mess in Iraq,
they are going to be in for a BIG disappointment.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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11 Dec 2003 02:39:23 PM |
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He could still be around because the gang that has the best chance to oust
him is so busy trying to "out-liberal" each other they will forget that
most voters don't want an extreme liberal OR an extreme conservative
running the show.
When the hell did Lieberman become a liberal? He's just as fanatic right-wing
as most of the GOP administration. Anyone remember the wide-eyed, fanatical
McCarthylike rant he gave during the 2000 campaign in support of censorship?
I'm not sure that ANY of the current list of major Dem candidates can be called
"extreme liberal" with the possible exception of Kucinich. With most we're just
getting the difference between Bush and Bush-lite.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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10 Dec 2003 10:12:48 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
--
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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11 Dec 2003 09:13:05 AM |
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On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Jeff Jones" |
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11 Dec 2003 09:26:17 AM |
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"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns944E5DE65A5E4Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Not to be too picky here but nowhere near half of America voted for him.
About half of the people who voted pulled the lever for Bush (still less
than for Gore of course) but only about 45% of Americans eligible to vote
actually voted. So, more like 25% of America voted for Bush in 2000.
Jeff Jones
Austin, Texas
aa #2044
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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11 Dec 2003 09:27:11 AM |
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On 11 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:t00Cb.113326$Ek.42655@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns944E5DE65A5E4Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If
he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens
and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and
march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given
for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Not to be too picky here but nowhere near half of America voted for
him.
About half of the people who voted pulled the lever for Bush (still
less
than for Gore of course) but only about 45% of Americans eligible to
vote
actually voted. So, more like 25% of America voted for Bush in 2000.
You know what I mean.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "MarkA" |
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11 Dec 2003 01:40:00 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:27:11 +0000, Mekkala wrote:
On 11 Dec 2003, "Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:t00Cb.113326$Ek.42655@twister.austin.rr.com:
"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns944E5DE65A5E4Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If
he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens
and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and
march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given
for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Not to be too picky here but nowhere near half of America voted for
him.
About half of the people who voted pulled the lever for Bush (still
less
than for Gore of course) but only about 45% of Americans eligible to
vote
actually voted. So, more like 25% of America voted for Bush in 2000.
You know what I mean.
I agree with Jeff. In the last TWO elections, less than half the
registered voters bothered to vote, given the poor quality of the Repub
and Dem candidates. I just wish that the 50% who didn't vote at all would
have voted for third-party candidates. Perhaps that would give the Repubs
and Dems the kick-in-the-***** that they so sorely need to alert them to the
fact that mainstream America does not want ideologic extremists running
the government.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Dec 2003 09:05:19 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:26:17 GMT, "Jeff Jones"
<jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Not to be too picky here but nowhere near half of America voted for him.
About half of the people who voted pulled the lever for Bush (still less
than for Gore of course) but only about 45% of Americans eligible to vote
actually voted. So, more like 25% of America voted for Bush in 2000.
N ot quite. 45% voted. About 5% (2.25% of the population) of those
voted green. Less than half of the remainder (less than 20% of the
population) voted for Bush (remember, Gore got more votes than Bush).
So the President has a "mandate" of something like 18%.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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11 Dec 2003 09:23:46 AM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Now the question is whether they'll think the alternative they're being
offered is really the *lesser* of two evils.
--
Fred Stone
Cthulhu in 2004! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "MarkA" |
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11 Dec 2003 01:33:34 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:23:46 +0000, Fred Stone wrote:
Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by means
of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Now the question is whether they'll think the alternative they're being
offered is really the *lesser* of two evils.
--
Fred Stone
Cthulhu in 2004! Why vote for a lesser evil?
Nice sig line, Fred. I'm already in line to be "Eaten First!"
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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11 Dec 2003 05:02:10 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
in <vth3016trdi632@news.supernews.com>:
Mekkala wrote:
On 10 Dec 2003, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:6lrftv86p106uqrelk373mr8rvransh2k1@Pern.rk:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:56 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Don't be so pessimistic -- Bush probably won't still be around. If he
is, it'll be by some form of foul play. If any foul play happens and
gets him to stay in power... I'll be ready to pick up a gun and march
on
Washington. As, I believe, will many other people in America.
Is that what happened the last time he got into the Oval Office by
means of foul play?
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Now the question is whether they'll think the alternative they're being
offered is really the *lesser* of two evils.
Christ, a sea cucumber would be a lesser evil compared to Junior.
--
Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com # U5 and proud of it!
WORK HARDER - millionaires on corporate welfare depend on you.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Dec 2003 09:01:05 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:13:05 GMT, Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
No. But last time, people didn't know yet quite who they'd be given for
a President. Last time, half of America voted for him.
Less than half.
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Steve Jones" |
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11 Dec 2003 03:56:25 AM |
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"Geoff Offermann" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<YsFBb.499876$Fm2.479743@attbi_s04>...
"Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Damn...Britain is turning into another place I can't
move to after the next election.
I really wouldn't worry about it. Religion is dying here faster than
a thing that's dying very fast. This is just one policeman, who
happens to organise prayers against crime. Even *he* admits that
recent reductions in crime figures are to do with mundane things such
as the efforts of his colleagues, although he says "...the prayers of
local people are definitely there in the mix." Whatever. Funny how
his god doesn't seem to care about the crimes in other areas of the
country.
The report also mentions some research from earlier this year, which
indicated no tangible result from prayer groups. A certain Rt Rev Tom
Wright, was (surprise, surprise) critical of the research, saying that
prayer was "not a penny-in-the-slot machine". Um, what's the point
of it then? If you can't guarantee a result, then I would suggest
it's precisely like a "penny-in-the-slot machine", since it's a
complete gamble whether the god you pray to pays any attention or
not...
Steve
(Pentylzic)
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Latest police weapon in the battle against crime... prayer!!! |
12 Dec 2003 11:54:20 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:30 +0800 the ET form known as Agent
Lemon<me@nospamplease.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
<excerpt>
An experiment earlier this year into whether prayer does have concrete
results may have disappointed believers.
The study, run by the Duke University Medical Centre in North Carolina
involved prayers being said for half of a group of 750 hospital
patients. Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist volunteers prayed for
one half of the group, but not for the other. Researchers found no
difference in the recovery rates of the two groups.
Revival movements
Some commentators were, however, dismissive of the study, saying it
was tantamount to "putting God to the test". The Bishop of Durham, the
Rt Rev Tom Wright, was one of the research's critics, saying that
prayer was "not a penny-in-the-slot machine".
</excerpt>
Ironic that xians do use prayer exactly as a slot machine. And of
course "you can't test God" to dismiss results when these indicate a
no god outcome is indistinguishable from a prayer intervention.
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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12 Dec 2003 01:18:58 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:30 +0800, "Agent Lemon"
<me@nospamplease.com> ejaculated:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
"If you take an individual burglar, and pray for him, and he becomes a
Christian, one of the net impacts of that is that he may stop
burgling."
It's good to see a Christian admit that their in-dwelling god really
isn't a deterrent to "sinning".
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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"
- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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12 Dec 2003 04:57:48 AM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:30 +0800, "Agent Lemon"
<me@nospamplease.com> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
Dear God,
Thank you very much for your help in the last job. I am
sorry I hit the bloke so hard, but he was asking for it. I'll
give some money to the Vicar when I see him.
Could you keep the weather cold and wet tomorrow night? It would
help if the area is deserted when we go over the wall.
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| User: "Levy Oates" |
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10 Dec 2003 01:05:06 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:30 +0800, "Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
From the article:
"The spread of e-mail has however helped make prayer networks easier to set up;
it is possible to join a network praying for practically any part of the
country"
I suppose someone could submit a prayer automatically each day at 8 am by email.
"Dear God, please reduce crime in my neighbourhood today and make all the nasty
criminals go elsewhere."
With the advantages of modern technology the supplicant needn't even get out of
bed in the mornings any more.
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Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Dec 2003 07:02:57 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:30 +0800, "Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com>,
Message ID: <br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
/cue looney tunes theme
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Latest police weapon in the battle against crime... prayer!!! |
15 Dec 2003 12:08:22 AM |
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In article <l12qtv897npn17kd143vibibbc1r0mviev@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:30 +0800, "Agent Lemon" <me@nospamplease.com>,
Message ID: <br75bj$kdu974@imsp212.netvigator.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3306185.stm
/cue looney tunes theme
"OK, Lefty! We have you surrounded. Come out with your hands up and
don't try anything funny. I'd hate to have to use this 'Lord's Prayer'
on you!"
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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