Religions > Atheism > Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester
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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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06 May 2005 10:15:11 PM |
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Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
It is a crime how pro-life advocates are treated by certain elements of
the law enforcement agencies in this country. Peaceful protest and
attempts to educate an uninformed public is a right. All decent people
should lend moral support to this lawsuit.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat1317.html
Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion
Protester
Washington, DC -- The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) has
filed a lawsuit against a Washington-area Planned Parenthood and a
security guard at the abortion business. The suit has been filed for a
pro-life college student who says he was tackled to the ground and
injured when protesting abortion outside the facility last year.
Daniel Heenan, who attends Christendom College in Front Royal,
Virginia, had participated in a prayer vigil and sidewalk counseling
outside the Washington Planned Parenthood for three years. The suit
contends he was injured when a security guard knocked him to the
ground.
The incident occurred after Heenan approached the abortion facility and
crossed a picket line painted on the ground that limited the protests
of a group of pro-life advocates involved in an unrelated lawsuit.
The line did not apply to Heenan, but he contends the Planned
Parenthood guard forcefully shoved him to the ground after tackling
him.
Heenan said he did nothing to provoke the attack and gave no indication
that he was planning to enter the abortion facility or harass the
security guard.
According to the lawsuit, several officers of the D.C. Metropolitan
Police Department refused Heenan's request to press charges against the
security guard. There was no police report filed about the attack.
"It is simply unacceptable for citizens of the United States, who are
on public property, to be tackled or knocked to the ground by security
guards," said Jim Henderson, a senior ACLJ legal counsel.
"In this case, a college-aged Catholic sidewalk counselor was attacked
from behind and thrown to the ground on a public sidewalk for no other
reason than seeking to offer his message of hope and help to women
approaching the Planned Parenthood facility," Henderson explained.
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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12 May 2005 05:44:31 AM |
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <428270bd$0$15226$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
These people struggle to get round the difference between "dying" and
"killing" and the moral ramifications that apply to the latter but not
the former.
An embryo or foetus (about 2-3 months gestation) is removed intact and
alive from a woman's body, and given the same care as any other
'newborn'. The embryo/foetus finds itself unable to sustain its own life
and therefore, despite all measures taken to preserve its life (by the
now ex-pregnant woman amongst others), it dies.
What killed it? Your god?
You need serious psychiatric help.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
12 May 2005 01:02:38 PM |
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In article <428338e4$0$2586$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <428270bd$0$15226$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
These people struggle to get round the difference between "dying" and
"killing" and the moral ramifications that apply to the latter but not
the former.
An embryo or foetus (about 2-3 months gestation) is removed intact and
alive from a woman's body, and given the same care as any other
'newborn'. The embryo/foetus finds itself unable to sustain its own life
and therefore, despite all measures taken to preserve its life (by the
now ex-pregnant woman amongst others), it dies.
What killed it? Your god?
You need serious psychiatric help.
Perhaps to direct the help to you! ;-))
Are you really so insecure in your beliefs that you cannot even bear to
consider that your god supposedly 'murdered' millions of people?
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| User: "Michael Calwell" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing AbortionProtester |
12 May 2005 01:07:44 PM |
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <428338e4$0$2586$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <428270bd$0$15226$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
These people struggle to get round the difference between "dying" and
"killing" and the moral ramifications that apply to the latter but not
the former.
An embryo or foetus (about 2-3 months gestation) is removed intact and
alive from a woman's body, and given the same care as any other
'newborn'. The embryo/foetus finds itself unable to sustain its own life
and therefore, despite all measures taken to preserve its life (by the
now ex-pregnant woman amongst others), it dies.
What killed it? Your god?
You need serious psychiatric help.
Perhaps to direct the help to you! ;-))
Are you really so insecure in your beliefs that you cannot even bear to
consider that your god supposedly 'murdered' millions of people?
Dying and Killing Pat. Two very different things.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
12 May 2005 04:39:36 PM |
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In article <4283a0c7$0$2047$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
Are you really so insecure in your beliefs that you cannot even bear to
consider that your god supposedly 'murdered' millions of people?
Dying and Killing Pat. Two very different things.
Ah well, then... an embryo/foetus isn't 'killed'... it dies... in *your
own words* a very different thing!
If a woman 'kills' an embryo/foetus by removing it from her body, then
your god (supposedly) also 'kills' embryos/foetuses by removing them
from women's bodies... and also loads of people by placing them in
situations where they cannot survive.
That's if there *is* such a thing as a god or gods...
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 May 2005 03:28:25 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 22:39:36 +0100, Pat Winstanley
<boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
In article <4283a0c7$0$2047$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>,
michael.calwell@btopenworld.com says...
Are you really so insecure in your beliefs that you cannot even bear to
consider that your god supposedly 'murdered' millions of people?
Dying and Killing Pat. Two very different things.
Ah well, then... an embryo/foetus isn't 'killed'... it dies... in *your
own words* a very different thing!
If a woman 'kills' an embryo/foetus by removing it from her body, then
your god (supposedly) also 'kills' embryos/foetuses by removing them
from women's bodies... and also loads of people by placing them in
situations where they cannot survive.
And known from before the time the fictional despot farted the
universe into existance.
That's if there *is* such a thing as a god or gods...
There isn't.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
11 May 2005 07:20:06 PM |
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In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <ud7381585mn5chrka9to40l9fe3lgmju4h@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:31:46 -0700, (• R. L. Measures)
emanated:
In article <MPG.1ceaa2296740f85198c62d@news.uni-berlin.de>, Pat Winstanley
<boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
In article <jrs081phfpib0rqo4s2mels9k2jk4b28j0@4ax.com>, mauritius4
@hotmail.com says...
In that case there was no crime involved in the pregnancy
coming about.
So why should a pregnant woman be forced to continue that pregnancy?
Well, after all, it's her child, too, regardless of how it came
about;
for at least that if nothing else.
What child? There's no child at the time of a pregnancy.
** Pat -- In the minds of those who were religiously "educated" by the
infallible Romsn church between the ages of c. 4 and 7, at the very
instant a sperm enters an egg, a micro-miniature"baby" marterializes -
complete with soul - that has a fully-formed cranial valt complete with
fully-formed brain.
So the ancients were a tad clumsy in their definitions. You must
remember, Measures, that at that same point in history your ancestors
were experiencing considerable difficulty in the simple task of
identifying
which end to tidy up afterwards.
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being: another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
• Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
• they died
Alan
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Norma" |
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11 May 2005 08:04:59 PM |
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". R. L. Measures" <> wrote in message
news:_r-1105051720060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
emanated:
In article <ud7381585mn5chrka9to40l9fe3lgmju4h@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:31:46 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
emanated:
In article <MPG.1ceaa2296740f85198c62d@news.uni-berlin.de>, Pat
Winstanley
<boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
In article <jrs081phfpib0rqo4s2mels9k2jk4b28j0@4ax.com>, mauritius4
@hotmail.com says...
In that case there was no crime involved in the pregnancy
coming about.
So why should a pregnant woman be forced to continue that
pregnancy?
Well, after all, it's her child, too, regardless of how it
came
about;
for at least that if nothing else.
What child? There's no child at the time of a pregnancy.
** Pat -- In the minds of those who were religiously "educated" by
the
infallible Romsn church between the ages of c. 4 and 7, at the very
instant a sperm enters an egg, a micro-miniature"baby"
marterializes -
complete with soul - that has a fully-formed cranial valt complete
with
fully-formed brain.
So the ancients were a tad clumsy in their definitions. You
must
remember, Measures, that at that same point in history your ancestors
were experiencing considerable difficulty in the simple task of
identifying
which end to tidy up afterwards.
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being: another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
. Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
. they died
Philosophical question: are all deaths considered to be murders?
Norma
Alan
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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12 May 2005 07:45:23 AM |
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In article <XYxge.7917$fY4.2257@fe07.lga>, "Norma" <njb904@charter.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" < > wrote in message
news:_r-1105051720060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
emanated:
...
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being: another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
. Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
. they died
Philosophical question: are all deaths considered to be murders?
** this is decided on an individual basis. My own opinion on the 5
aborted fetuses is that there must have been a serious problem with them
or whoever created human reproductive parts would not have pulled the plug
on the little suckers.
cheers, Norma
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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12 May 2005 09:45:37 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:45:23 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <XYxge.7917$fY4.2257@fe07.lga>, "Norma" <njb904@charter.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" < > wrote in message
news:_r-1105051720060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
emanated:
...
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being: another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
. Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
. they died
Philosophical question: are all deaths considered to be murders?
** this is decided on an individual basis. My own opinion on the 5
aborted fetuses is that there must have been a serious problem with them
or whoever created human reproductive parts would not have pulled the plug
on the little suckers.
cheers, Norma
Measures, it doesn't matter if the bodies are able to survive or not,
as the spirits within are not affected in the least, for we are not our bodies,
no matter how much we seem to be fond of them.
Alan
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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13 May 2005 12:30:15 AM |
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In article <lv4881t0jphirtq9mfd7gi6pnrk2kal0a2@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:45:23 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <XYxge.7917$fY4.2257@fe07.lga>, "Norma" <njb904@charter.net>
wrote:
". R. L. Measures" < > wrote in message
news:_r-1105051720060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
emanated:
...
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being:
another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
. Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
. they died
Philosophical question: are all deaths considered to be murders?
** this is decided on an individual basis. My own opinion on the 5
aborted fetuses is that there must have been a serious problem with them
or whoever created human reproductive parts would not have pulled the plug
on the little suckers.
cheers, Norma
Measures, it doesn't matter if the bodies are able to survive
or not,
as the spirits within are not affected in the least, for we are not our
bodies,
no matter how much we seem to be fond of them.
• Good point, Alan, but the Roman church seems not to realize this, even
though the story of Mr. Lazarus is well known to them.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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13 May 2005 11:57:31 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 22:30:15 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <lv4881t0jphirtq9mfd7gi6pnrk2kal0a2@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:45:23 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <XYxge.7917$fY4.2257@fe07.lga>, "Norma" <njb904@charter.net>
wrote:
". R. L. Measures" < > wrote in message
news:_r-1105051720060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
emanated:
...
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being:
another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
. Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
. they died
Philosophical question: are all deaths considered to be murders?
** this is decided on an individual basis. My own opinion on the 5
aborted fetuses is that there must have been a serious problem with them
or whoever created human reproductive parts would not have pulled the plug
on the little suckers.
cheers, Norma
Measures, it doesn't matter if the bodies are able to survive
or not,
as the spirits within are not affected in the least, for we are not our
bodies,
no matter how much we seem to be fond of them.
• Good point, Alan, but the Roman church seems not to realize this...
Please elaborate, Measures.
...even though the story of Mr. Lazarus is well known to them.
Alan
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 May 2005 03:17:50 PM |
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On Wed, 11 May 2005 19:04:59 -0600, "Norma" <njb904@charter.net>
wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1105051720060001@192.168.1.100...
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being: another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
. Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
. they died
Philosophical question: are all deaths considered to be murders?
If one takes the Christian claims seriously-yes.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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12 May 2005 02:08:29 AM |
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On Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:06 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 06:40:05 -0700, (• R. L. Measures) emanated:
In article <ud7381585mn5chrka9to40l9fe3lgmju4h@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:31:46 -0700, (• R. L. Measures)
emanated:
In article <MPG.1ceaa2296740f85198c62d@news.uni-berlin.de>, Pat Winstanley
<boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
In article <jrs081phfpib0rqo4s2mels9k2jk4b28j0@4ax.com>, mauritius4
@hotmail.com says...
In that case there was no crime involved in the pregnancy
coming about.
So why should a pregnant woman be forced to continue that pregnancy?
Well, after all, it's her child, too, regardless of how it came
about;
for at least that if nothing else.
What child? There's no child at the time of a pregnancy.
** Pat -- In the minds of those who were religiously "educated" by the
infallible Romsn church between the ages of c. 4 and 7, at the very
instant a sperm enters an egg, a micro-miniature"baby" marterializes -
complete with soul - that has a fully-formed cranial valt complete with
fully-formed brain.
So the ancients were a tad clumsy in their definitions. You must
remember, Measures, that at that same point in history your ancestors
were experiencing considerable difficulty in the simple task of
identifying
which end to tidy up afterwards.
Once a man and woman join, an intent comes into being: another
life; another human being. Once that intention is complete upon
conception, no one, not even the man or woman involved, may
interfere. Only an act of God, utterly exclusive of human
will, may terminate that intention.
• Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
• they died
Alan
Measures, no one has truly died since creation...
....yet.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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11 May 2005 06:13:03 PM |
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In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, mauritius4
@hotmail.com says...
• Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
Except by the god?
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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12 May 2005 02:06:57 AM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:13:03 +0100, Pat Winstanley <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> emanated:
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, mauritius4
@hotmail.com says...
• Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
Except by the god?
The term [murder] applies only to creatures, not the Creator.
Alan
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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12 May 2005 07:48:13 AM |
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In article <q10681lsoeshbmugc00c1b22jumkrvoebj@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:13:03 +0100, Pat Winstanley
<boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> emanated:
In article <p3h481tqpt5ald363a0funq164mtnbmh4u@4ax.com>, mauritius4
@hotmail.com says...
• Indeed. Approximately 5 of my mother's pregnancies were seemingly
terminated by an act of God.
Thus, no murders took place.
Except by the god?
The term [murder] applies only to creatures, not the Creator.
• So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
12 May 2005 09:24:35 AM |
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". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
Susan
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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12 May 2005 02:12:47 PM |
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In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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12 May 2005 03:14:10 PM |
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". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was cruelty to strangers - defenseless people in that they were alone in
the city with no one to aid them. People point to Lot's offering his
daughters to the mob to save the strangers as a sign that he was also caught
up in the sin, but the truth is that, as guests in his home, they were
entitled to the utmost protection he could give them.
Susan
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
13 May 2005 12:22:25 AM |
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In article <mOOge.18766$hb1.5032@trnddc05>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was cruelty to strangers - defenseless people in that they were alone in
the city with no one to aid them.
** according to the account, this was not the case.
People point to Lot's offering his
daughters to the mob to save the strangers as a sign that he was also caught
up in the sin, but the truth is that, as guests in his home, they were
entitled to the utmost protection he could give them.
** Mr Lott undoubtedly knew that the other citizens of Sodom were not
interested in the very least in having sex with females, so his daughters
were essentially as safe as any female spending the night at Neverland
Ranch.
cheers, Susan
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
13 May 2005 06:41:39 PM |
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". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <mOOge.18766$hb1.5032@trnddc05>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205051212470001@192.168.1.100...
In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when
the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was cruelty to strangers - defenseless people in that they were alone
in
the city with no one to aid them.
** according to the account, this was not the case.
Huh? Who did the 3 strangers know - as far as Lot knew?
They were certainly *posing* as strangers; there was no one to protect them
but Lot.
People point to Lot's offering his
daughters to the mob to save the strangers as a sign that he was also
caught
up in the sin, but the truth is that, as guests in his home, they were
entitled to the utmost protection he could give them.
** Mr Lott undoubtedly knew that the other citizens of Sodom were not
interested in the very least in having sex with females,
Uh, where did you get this idea?
so his daughters
were essentially as safe as any female spending the night at Neverland
Ranch.
Ick (there's safe & them there's un-nauseated)
Susan
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
14 May 2005 03:29:32 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:14:10 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205051212470001@192.168.1.100...
In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was cruelty to strangers - defenseless people in that they were alone in
the city with no one to aid them. People point to Lot's offering his
daughters to the mob to save the strangers as a sign that he was also caught
up in the sin, but the truth is that, as guests in his home, they were
entitled to the utmost protection he could give them.
To the point of the death of his own daughters?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
15 May 2005 01:02:54 AM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:14:10 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:
It was cruelty to strangers - defenseless people in that they were alone
in
the city with no one to aid them. People point to Lot's offering his
daughters to the mob to save the strangers as a sign that he was also
caught
up in the sin, but the truth is that, as guests in his home, they were
entitled to the utmost protection he could give them.
To the point of the death of his own daughters?
Death?
You know, I'm not sure!!
I think *maybe* so, but he didn't offer them up to be killed....
Susan
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
16 May 2005 09:11:29 PM |
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 06:02:54 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:dsnc81p3mpd5in2c938skvhhfqps5abtgi@4ax.com...
On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:14:10 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:
It was cruelty to strangers - defenseless people in that they were alone
in
the city with no one to aid them. People point to Lot's offering his
daughters to the mob to save the strangers as a sign that he was also
caught
up in the sin, but the truth is that, as guests in his home, they were
entitled to the utmost protection he could give them.
To the point of the death of his own daughters?
Death?
You know, I'm not sure!!
I think *maybe* so, but he didn't offer them up to be killed....
Raped to death by a mob.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
12 May 2005 10:19:36 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:14:10 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> emanated:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205051212470001@192.168.1.100...
In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was...<snip>
...homosexual behavior.
Alan
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
13 May 2005 12:47:18 AM |
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In article <k478811n9dnl4ma031vcvdu0ssf78r6pj1@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:14:10 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
emanated:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205051212470001@192.168.1.100...
In article <DGJge.16543$Fn1.1040@trnddc03>, "Susan Cohen"
<flavia18@verizon.net> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was...<snip>
...homosexual behavior.
** However, on the plus side, altar-boy pregnancies are rare, so there is
potentially less sin.
cheers, Alan
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
13 May 2005 06:43:25 PM |
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". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <k478811n9dnl4ma031vcvdu0ssf78r6pj1@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:14:10 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
emanated:
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
** Defenseless altar-boys?
I would laugh, but it's really sad.
It was...<snip>
...homosexual behavior.
Nice of the bigot to pretend he has the right to re-write Torah.
** However, on the plus side, altar-boy pregnancies are rare, so there is
potentially less sin.
Oh, this ought to be good...
Susan
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
12 May 2005 03:16:13 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 14:24:35 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
Cretins like Craft have no use for facts.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Alan W. Craft" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
12 May 2005 10:27:11 PM |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 14:24:35 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> emanated:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
Susan
"But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom,
both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the
house; and they called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to
you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may KNOW them.' Lot
went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said,
'I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have
two daughters who have not KNOWN man; let me bring them out
to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these
men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.' "
- Genesis 19:4-8 (RSVCE)
Do you know what "KNOW" and "KNOWN" mean, and in the biblical
sense, "Butch" Cohen?
"But they said, 'Stand back!' And they said, 'This fellow came to
sojourn, and he would play the judge! Now we will deal worse with
you than with them.' Then they pressed hard against the man Lot,
and drew near to break the door. But the men put forth their hands
and brought Lot into the house to them, and shut the door. And
they struck with blindness the men who were at the door of the
house, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves
groping for the door." - Genesis 19:9-11
The Sodomite men were simply hunting for some fresh male hiney,
blinded for their trouble, then later destroyed altogether.
Alan
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Lawsuit Filed Against Planned Parenthood for Harassing Abortion Protester |
13 May 2005 12:49:42 AM |
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In article <ij7881p1uughe0mdt6f16blgb72iepfh9k@4ax.com>, Alan W. Craft
<mauritius4@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 14:24:35 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
emanated:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-1205050548130001@192.168.1.100...
. So the male homos at Sodom and Gomorrah were not murdered when the
Creator crispy-critted them?
It was not for homosexuality but for cruelty to the defenseless.
Susan
"But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom,
both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the
house; and they called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to
you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may KNOW them.' Lot
went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said,
'I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have
two daughters who have not KNOWN man; let me bring them out
to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these
men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.' "
- Genesis 19:4-8 (RSVCE)
Do you know what "KNOW" and "KNOWN" mean, and in the biblical
sense, "Butch" Cohen?
"But they said, 'Stand back!' And they said, 'This fellow came to
sojourn, and he would play the judge! Now we will deal worse with
you than with them.' Then they pressed hard against the man Lot,
and drew near to break the door. But the men put forth their hands
and brought Lot into the house to them, and shut the door. And
they struck with blindness the men who were at the door of the
house, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves
groping for the door." - Genesis 19:9-11
The Sodomite men were simply hunting for some fresh male hiney,
blinded for their trouble, then later destroyed altogether.
• Alan has such a way with words.
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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