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"Unpleasant Truth" |
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15 Jan 2006 03:57:51 PM |
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Left wing anti-free speech Nazis strike again |
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all on
the left today ...
BAY AREA
Anti-abortion ad on BART angers activists
Many placards have been defaced or destroyed
- Michael Cabanatuan, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, January 13, 2006
Bay Area abortion-rights activists say a Roman Catholic group's
advertisements on hundreds of BART trains and in scores of stations --
attacking the Supreme Court's Roe vs. Wade decision and asking "Abortion:
Have we gone too far?" -- have gone too far in a region known for its
progressive politics.
Many of the ads have been torn down or defaced since the campaign began
three weeks ago.
"I think every woman has noticed them,'' said Suzanne "Sam" Joi, a member
of Code Pink, a social justice and anti-war group. "I couldn't believe
BART would allow something like this. Why are they doing this?''
[Obviously the concept of true "freedom of speech" has never entered the
closed mind of this leftist.]
The ads began appearing in BART trains and stations the day after
Christmas. According to BART spokesman Linton Johnson, 280 of them appear
in BART's rail cars and 48 larger versions are displayed in stations. The
Respect Life Ministry of the Oakland Diocese of the Roman Catholic Church
paid $43,200 for the ads, scheduled for display through the end of the
month.
BART officials say they had little choice but to post the ads, given the
free-speech provisions of the First Amendment. The transit district also
has a policy of accepting point-of-view advertising and has displayed
other political material -- including advertising from its employee unions
during last year's contract talks.
"We're not in the business of censorship and don't believe a government
agency should be in the business of censorship,'' Johnson said. "It
shouldn't be up to a government official to determine whose opinion is
right and whose is wrong.''
Many public transportation agencies allow political or point-of-view
advertising on their systems, including Muni, which is displaying anti-war
ads.
Some supporters of abortion rights have called BART to complain about the
ads and demand their removal. The political Web site www.indybay.org urged
activists to call BART and members of its Board of Directors to register
their discontent. As of Thursday, the transit agency had received 29
complaints, Johnson said.
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
So many of the ads have been destroyed, she said, that a supply of a
couple of dozen extras has been exhausted, and the ministry has ordered
reinforcements from its printer. The group, which funded the campaign
through donations, according to Rodman, is also asking BART's ad agency,
CBS Outdoor (formerly Viacom Outdoor), for extra display time to
compensate for the vandalism.
The campaign features two ads, each slickly produced and featuring a
blurry photograph of a woman against a turquoise background. One ad,
headlined "9 months" in large letters, features nine months of a calendar
and reads: "Because of Roe vs. Wade, this is the amount of time the
Supreme Court says it's legal to have an abortion."
The other contains the message: "The Supreme Court says you can choose:
after the heart starts beating, after its arms and legs appear, after all
organs are present, after the sex is apparent, after it sucks its thumb,
after it responds to sounds, after it could survive outside the womb.''
Both ads conclude with the tagline "Abortion: Have we gone too far?'' and
the name and Web site address (www.secondlookproject.org) for the Second
Look Project, an effort sponsored by the U.S. Conference of Catholic
Bishops, which created the campaign and unveiled it on Washington's Metro
subway system a year ago.
"It was clear that these eye-catching graphics and thought-provoking
messages could serve as an effective pro-life educational tool in our
area, too," Rodman said. She said she had tested the ads on female
employees of local cafes and was emboldened by their positive responses.
Abortion-rights activists are responding differently, calling the ads
misleading, manipulative and part of an effort to undermine the pro-choice
movement in the Bay Area.
"They're calling for the overturn of Roe vs. Wade, which will lead to the
slaughter of women,'' said Elizabeth Creely of the Bay Area Coalition for
Our Reproductive Rights, referring to fears of unsafe, back-alley
abortions if the procedure were illegal. "The Catholic Church is very
strong here and is working hard to erode reproductive rights.''
Some backers of abortion rights think BART should have rejected the ads,
while others say BART should have warned pro-choice groups that the ads
were about to appear and offered them a chance to run their own ad
campaign.
"At the very least they should have made sure both sides were
represented,'' Joi said.
In mid-December, anticipating controversy, BART put out a passenger
bulletin explaining its advertising policy. BART may consider revising the
policy this year to prohibit point-of-view advertising, Johnson said.
"But that could have a lot of implications -- like no political ads (for
candidates or ballot measures),'' he said.
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URL:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/01/13/BAGT9GMTU81.DTL
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The left can't stand free speech, just like evil cannot stand light.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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15 Jan 2006 09:36:15 PM |
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Do you have ANY "friends" who don't use you and toss you aside?
Paul
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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17 Jan 2006 05:57:11 PM |
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"Unpleasant Truth" <no.one@nowhere.com> wrote...
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all on
the left today ...
BAY AREA
Anti-abortion ad on BART angers activists
Many placards have been defaced or destroyed
- Michael Cabanatuan, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, January 13, 2006
Bay Area abortion-rights activists say a Roman Catholic group's
advertisements on hundreds of BART trains and in scores of stations --
attacking the Supreme Court's Roe vs. Wade decision and asking "Abortion:
Have we gone too far?" -- have gone too far in a region known for its
progressive politics.
[...]
What's deadly about it? Californians have a very low opinion of
right-to-liars and their dishonest propaganda. Because of that, anti-choice
posters, billboards, etc, tend to have a very short life. If you want your
propaganda to make a difference, the best thing you could do is STOP LYING.
[--relevant newsgroup that Unpleasant is afraid of added--]
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| User: "raven1" |
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15 Jan 2006 04:34:22 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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15 Jan 2006 06:07:17 PM |
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<snipped several NGs>
raven1 wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
I don't think defacement of property constitutes protected speech.
Yes, I think the ad campaign is stupid, but they have every right to
post them. I don't understand why people take the time to get upset
about this. I don't see any indication of violence.
Besides, if you're in an area where everybody agrees the ads are
stupid, what need is there to deface them? It's an irrational attempt
to counter a viewpoint by attacking the symbols rather than the actual
ideas.
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| User: "Unpleasant Truth" |
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15 Jan 2006 05:58:43 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:mdjls1pki3q6gi5vpe4f4gc8qd5c822clg@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything
you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in
Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
Yet another left wing Nazi who thinks people holding his views have the
"right" to destroy the property of others.
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| User: "raven1" |
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15 Jan 2006 06:09:04 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:58:43 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:mdjls1pki3q6gi5vpe4f4gc8qd5c822clg@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything
you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in
Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
Yet another left wing Nazi who thinks people holding his views have the
"right" to destroy the property of others.
Really? Where did I say I advocated such actions?
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Unpleasant Truth" |
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17 Jan 2006 02:16:44 AM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:70pls1p40g93margoknqhcv10dml4n6rh5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:58:43 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:mdjls1pki3q6gi5vpe4f4gc8qd5c822clg@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own
hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers
placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity,
everything
you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in
Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on
others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
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Yet another left wing Nazi who thinks people holding his views have the
"right" to destroy the property of others.
Really? Where did I say I advocated such actions?
Right there - equating the destruction of others' property with the right
of free speech.
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| User: "raven1" |
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17 Jan 2006 05:39:41 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:16:44 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:70pls1p40g93margoknqhcv10dml4n6rh5@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:58:43 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:mdjls1pki3q6gi5vpe4f4gc8qd5c822clg@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own
hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers
placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity,
everything
you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in
Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on
others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
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Yet another left wing Nazi who thinks people holding his views have the
"right" to destroy the property of others.
Really? Where did I say I advocated such actions?
Right there - equating the destruction of others' property with the right
of free speech.
Observation does not equate to approval.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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15 Jan 2006 06:10:05 PM |
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Unpleasant Truth wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:mdjls1pki3q6gi5vpe4f4gc8qd5c822clg@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything
you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in
Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
Yet another left wing Nazi who thinks people holding his views have the
"right" to destroy the property of others.
Ad hominems do not help your position. As it is, you're already going
to be seen as a troll, and that's just from your newsgroup list.
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| User: "robw" |
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15 Jan 2006 09:56:24 PM |
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Yup.
Do something about it.
"Unpleasant Truth" <no.one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:mdjls1pki3q6gi5vpe4f4gc8qd5c822clg@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything
you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in
Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
Yet another left wing Nazi who thinks people holding his views have the
"right" to destroy the property of others.
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| User: "VRWC10" |
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18 Jan 2006 01:45:34 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:34:22 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
LOL! Of course it seems that way to you. Liberals are so morally
rudderless that they cannot tell the difference between a crime and
free speech. According to your logic, I could get off scott free
after burning your house because I don't like your posts on Usenet.
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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19 Jan 2006 01:48:44 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, VRWC(2xFifth) wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:34:22 -0500, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Critics of the ads also seem to be taking matters into their own hands.
Hundreds of the ads have been defaced with markers, had stickers placed
over them or have been torn down and ripped up, according to Monika
Rodman, coordinator of the group that placed the ads.
"The defacement has taken to religious epithets, profanity, everything you
can think of,'' she said. A billboard at the MacArthur station in Oakland
was torn to shreds, she said, and mini essays were written on others.
Seems to me that the critics are exercising their own right to free
speech...
LOL! Of course it seems that way to you. Liberals are so morally
rudderless that they cannot tell the difference between a crime and
free speech. According to your logic, I could get off scott free
after burning your house because I don't like your posts on Usenet.
Wow! Your sex change operation didn't do a thing for you.
And that after your senseless murders of those three children. You
could have stolen their $2.35 simply by pushing them around.
Unless, of course, your sex change operation left you unable to
continue your crime spree without the use of automatic weapons,
dynamite and poisoned chewing gum.
Even realizing that you were one of the most radilib of all the
Stalinists in your native North Korea, most find it strange that
you were exiled into Southern California for your sexual
experiments with pine trees.
Simply because one of your ancestors was John "Goody" Knight should
not led you to such a long string of crimes against children's
lemonade stands.
We all give you our sympathy. We realize that when one of your
fathers asked the midhusband whether you were a girl or a boy and
the response was "No", it totally traumatized your fathers and, so,
you were raised as reared.
Are you still demanding that you be given 15 seconds as the knees
of your strange master, George W C Bush43 so that you can thank
"him" in your usual manner?
Did you get your sex change operation so that - when next committed
to the insane asylum, you'll have more fun rthan the last times and
be able to make a few buuts on the side?
I notice that, on Amazon and Talk Is Cheap bookshops your new
autobiography, "My Third Sex" has sold slightly less than 70
copies.
By the way, just everybody thinks that your latest commitment to
your normal insane asylum was a total miscarriage of your medical
condition and that "attempted rape of the Republican Party, is a
bogus charge even though your attempt failed thus resulting in your
conviction on the charge of "Assault with a Dead Weapon".
As requested, your cassettes of "The Complete Works of Tiny Tim"
have been sent to you under separate cover.
Oh, and congrats on your election as "North Korean Most Resembling
***** Cheney". An award truly deserved.
In the name of Bush, Nixon and Kim Jong-Il, VRWC is baptized.
Gray Shockley
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Swinehood hath no remedy.
- Sidney Lanier
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15 Jan 2006 05:26:56 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
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15 Jan 2006 05:55:41 PM |
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<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child (aside from self
defense, which is almost never the case). Thanks to the left's culture of
death, we have the most liberal pro-abortion laws in the world.
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
By they way, almost half of all women are opposed to the liberal abortion
as birth control policies we have today.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortion_poll030122.html
A 2003 poll by the Center for the Advancement of Women, headed by Faye
Wattleton, an ally of Senator Feinstein's from her days as the celebrated
president of Planned Parenthood, found that 51 percent of women would only
allow abortion in cases of rape or incest or to save the life of the
mother.
(Quoted from http://www.nationalreview.com/kob/obeirne200601100814.asp)
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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17 Jan 2006 06:06:49 PM |
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"Unpleasant Truth" <no.one@nowhere.com> wrote...
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote...
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child (aside
from self defense, which is almost never the case).
I assume then, that you accept abortion in cases where the woman's life and
health are at risk. That's good, because abortion is essentially an act of
self-defense.
Since you accept abortion to save the life of the mother (which every sane
person does), you affirm the principle of self-defense when it comes to
abortion. In other circumstances, people are allowed to defend themselves
against much lesser threats than certain death - threats to safety, health,
bodily integrity - even *property*.
A person is permitted to use whatever *minimum* force is available to stop a
threat to safety, health, bodily integrity or property. However, to stop an
embryo's/fetus's encroachment on a woman's body, the only available minimum
force happens to be lethal (abortion). Therefore, abortion passes the
necessary force test for legal and ethical acceptability.
So why can't pregnant women exercise self-defense against non-lethal threats
to their health, safety and bodily integrity when equivalent or lesser
threats justify self-defense for everyone else?
Thanks to the left's culture of death, we have the most liberal
pro-abortion laws in the world.
Liar. Laws concerning abortion are more liberal in many European countries,
especially the Netherlands and Scandanavia. They also have better access to
effective birth control and sex education, which means they have *lower*
abortion rates than in the U.S.
[--talk.abortion added to the newsgroup line--]
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15 Jan 2006 09:58:48 PM |
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Bring it.
Yr computer chair nitwit.
"Unpleasant Truth" <no.one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child (aside from self
defense, which is almost never the case). Thanks to the left's culture of
death, we have the most liberal pro-abortion laws in the world.
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
By they way, almost half of all women are opposed to the liberal abortion
as birth control policies we have today.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortion_poll030122.html
A 2003 poll by the Center for the Advancement of Women, headed by Faye
Wattleton, an ally of Senator Feinstein's from her days as the celebrated
president of Planned Parenthood, found that 51 percent of women would only
allow abortion in cases of rape or incest or to save the life of the
mother.
(Quoted from http://www.nationalreview.com/kob/obeirne200601100814.asp)
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child - as fully capable of living
outside the mother's womb as a full term baby? And explain the "logic" of
a legal system that says if the woman carrying the baby decides to kill
it - in any gruesome way she chooses - it's perfectly OK. But if anyone
else kills it it's murder.
"Moral leftist" is the oxymoron here.
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:04:06 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child -
A fetus.
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16 Jan 2006 05:10:54 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:04:06 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:muols19snk3qdpblivd7fnrovm4v1o1ai6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child - as fully capable of living
outside the mother's womb as a full term baby?
Only 1.5% of legal abortions in the US are performed after the 20'th
week of pregnancy. Well over 80% are performed in the first 3 months.
One wonders why so much time is spent talking about the extremely rare
cases of late-term abortions, when 98.5% of abortions take place
before the 20'th week. It is also interesting that no mention is
heard of the medical reasons for the extremely rare late-term
abortions. It doesn't seem very honest does it?
And explain the "logic" of
a legal system that says if the woman carrying the baby decides to kill
it - in any gruesome way she chooses -
The above did not seem dishonest. It was clearly dishonest, and it
was vicious.
it's perfectly OK. But if anyone
else kills it it's murder.
The above makes little sense, and it is completely irrelevant.
"Moral leftist" is the oxymoron here.
Your distortions and your obvious hate are hardly morally inspiring.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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17 Jan 2006 10:06:39 AM |
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:3h6os1lldvb1pj0uc1srsqo288sri301av@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:04:06 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:muols19snk3qdpblivd7fnrovm4v1o1ai6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are
almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child - as fully capable of
living
outside the mother's womb as a full term baby?
Only 1.5% of legal abortions in the US are performed after the 20'th
week of pregnancy.
Gee, you're right, why should we care about "only" 5000 murders per year?
Well over 80% are performed in the first 3 months.
One wonders why so much time is spent talking about the extremely rare
cases of late-term abortions, when 98.5% of abortions take place
before the 20'th week.
Because those killed in the last two months are mostly fully viable
babies.
A better question is why lunatic leftists wasted so much time trying to
save a convicted multiple murderer - Tookie Williams - from receiving his
just punishment. How much better to try to save innocent life.
It is also interesting that no mention is
heard of the medical reasons for the extremely rare late-term
abortions. It doesn't seem very honest does it?
Why don't YOU tell us.
And explain the "logic" of
a legal system that says if the woman carrying the baby decides to kill
it - in any gruesome way she chooses -
The above did not seem dishonest. It was clearly dishonest, and it
was vicious.
Not compared to partial birth abortion.
it's perfectly OK. But if anyone
else kills it it's murder.
The above makes little sense, and it is completely irrelevant.
Only to amoral leftists.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/wireStory?id=825479
Man Gets Life Under Fetal Protection Law
Texas Man Gets Life Under Fetal Protection Law; Woman Sought His Help to
End Pregnancy
The Associated Press
LUFKIN, Texas Jun 6, 2005 - A 19-year-old accused of causing his teenage
girlfriend to miscarry two fetuses by stepping on her stomach was
convicted Monday of two counts of murder.
Gerardo Flores received an automatic life sentence because prosecutors did
not seek the death penalty, which was available under the state's 2003
fetus protection law.
Erica Basoria, 17, acknowledged asking Flores to help end her pregnancy;
she could not be prosecuted because of her legal right to abortion.
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So, given this, why can't we prosecute abortionists? I guess technique
matters. But it sounds like - according to leftists principles - the
worst he should have been charged with is practicing "medicine" without a
license.
"Moral leftist" is the oxymoron here.
Your distortions and your obvious hate are hardly morally inspiring.
My only hate is for evil. The left, on the other hand, loves evil.
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18 Jan 2006 03:55:50 AM |
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in article DB8zf.9539$jR.4017@fed1read01, Unpleasant Truth at
no.one@nowhere.com wrote on 1/17/06 11:06 AM:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:3h6os1lldvb1pj0uc1srsqo288sri301av@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:04:06 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:muols19snk3qdpblivd7fnrovm4v1o1ai6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are
almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child - as fully capable of
living
outside the mother's womb as a full term baby?
Only 1.5% of legal abortions in the US are performed after the 20'th
week of pregnancy.
Gee, you're right, why should we care about "only" 5000 murders per year?
Well over 80% are performed in the first 3 months.
One wonders why so much time is spent talking about the extremely rare
cases of late-term abortions, when 98.5% of abortions take place
before the 20'th week.
Because those killed in the last two months are mostly fully viable
babies.
A better question is why lunatic leftists wasted so much time trying to
save a convicted multiple murderer - Tookie Williams - from receiving his
just punishment. How much better to try to save innocent life.
It is also interesting that no mention is
heard of the medical reasons for the extremely rare late-term
abortions. It doesn't seem very honest does it?
Why don't YOU tell us.
And explain the "logic" of
a legal system that says if the woman carrying the baby decides to kill
it - in any gruesome way she chooses -
The above did not seem dishonest. It was clearly dishonest, and it
was vicious.
Not compared to partial birth abortion.
it's perfectly OK. But if anyone
else kills it it's murder.
The above makes little sense, and it is completely irrelevant.
Only to amoral leftists.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/wireStory?id=825479
Man Gets Life Under Fetal Protection Law
Texas Man Gets Life Under Fetal Protection Law; Woman Sought His Help to
End Pregnancy
The Associated Press
LUFKIN, Texas Jun 6, 2005 - A 19-year-old accused of causing his teenage
girlfriend to miscarry two fetuses by stepping on her stomach was
convicted Monday of two counts of murder.
Gerardo Flores received an automatic life sentence because prosecutors did
not seek the death penalty, which was available under the state's 2003
fetus protection law.
Erica Basoria, 17, acknowledged asking Flores to help end her pregnancy;
she could not be prosecuted because of her legal right to abortion.
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Unpleasant is that way only because of the loss of two potential low
wage servants for the palatial residence he claims he has been blessed with
by the Lord.
Paul
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17 Jan 2006 05:45:24 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:04:06 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:muols19snk3qdpblivd7fnrovm4v1o1ai6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child - as fully capable of living
outside the mother's womb as a full term baby? And explain the "logic" of
a legal system that says if the woman carrying the baby decides to kill
it - in any gruesome way she chooses - it's perfectly OK. But if anyone
else kills it it's murder.
If this was a routine occurrence, you might have a point, but
terminating a pregnancy at this stage is exceedingly rare, generally
only done in cases of grave risk to the woman's life or health, and is
also, as per Roe v. Wade, left to the various States to permit or
prohibit, rendering your argument somewhat moot.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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16 Jan 2006 12:34:36 AM |
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Unpleasant Truth wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:muols19snk3qdpblivd7fnrovm4v1o1ai6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and
anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
"Unborn child" is an oxymoron.
What do YOU call an 8 month term unborn child - as fully capable of living
outside the mother's womb as a full term baby? And explain the "logic" of
a legal system that says if the woman carrying the baby decides to kill
it - in any gruesome way she chooses - it's perfectly OK. But if anyone
else kills it it's murder.
"Moral leftist" is the oxymoron here.
Generalizations. Nice. Are you just trying to rack up troll points?
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17 Jan 2006 08:33:05 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
How would anyone know whether one was "being killed" or
not if government had no way of knowning?
It is a RELGIOUS issue, you moron
It is not a function of government.
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
CONSERVATIVES held slaves
CONSERVATIVES promoted the Secession
CONSERVATIVES set up Jim Crow
CONSERVATIVES Lynched, beat, sterilized, and segregated
Blacks
CONSERVATIVES fought civil rights
A party LABEL is only a political "group"
The IDEOLOGY is the key
CONSERVATISM tries to use government to force religious
dogma on citizens.
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16 Jan 2006 05:10:53 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child
There is, however, a legal right to have an abortion.
(aside from self
defense, which is almost never the case). Thanks to the left's culture of
death, we have the most liberal pro-abortion laws in the world.
The US hardly has the most liberal pro-abortion law, and it should
also be pointed out that it does not have any pro-abortion law. The
law allows abortion; it does not advocate it.
Your nasty "culture of death" remark notwithstanding, it was the laws
that forbade abortions that caused the death of women. Furthermore
what evidence do you have that the right to abortion is not advocated
by many conservatives? After all they are supposed to believe in
individual freedom, right?
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
By they way, almost half of all women are opposed to the liberal abortion
as birth control policies we have today.
Abortion is not advocated as birth control. That would make little
sense.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortion_poll030122.html
A 2003 poll by the Center for the Advancement of Women, headed by Faye
Wattleton, an ally of Senator Feinstein's from her days as the celebrated
president of Planned Parenthood, found that 51 percent of women would only
allow abortion in cases of rape or incest or to save the life of the
mother.
And the great majority favors allowing abortion. By the way, if you
really believe that abortion is killing a child, how do you justify
abortion to save the mother's life?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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16 Jan 2006 03:44:32 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:55:41 -0700, Unpleasant Truth wrote:
the left's culture of
death,
That's rich, coming from a fucking Christstain.
--
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208, HB #6
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15 Jan 2006 06:54:18 PM |
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Unpleasant Truth wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost all
on
the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child (aside from self
defense, which is almost never the case). Thanks to the left's culture of
death, we have the most liberal pro-abortion laws in the world.
I'm sure that when speaking in your own circles, phrases like "culture
of death" are all well and good. But when you actually talk to those
about whom you speak such things, perhaps you should moderate your
language, lest you put their backs up.
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
You ignore, of course, that neither the Republicans or Democrats of
today hold anything like the views of those in Lincoln's day. At that
time, Democrats held a laissez-faire attitude, while Republicans were
the ones who were for "big government". The switch came with the New
Deal and Progressivism.
Besides, the Emancipation Proclamation was mostly a threat to attempt
to reunite the nation peacefully. Any states that rejoined the Union
would have been allowed to keep their slaves. The war was not about
slavery, but over states' rights over the national government. (There
were, of course, other issues as well, including slavery, but it was
not the foremost issue that it is often made out to have been.) Lincoln
was no abolitionist (though he did oppose the expansion of slavery, he
did not believe the federal government had the right to take away
citizens' "property").
By they way, almost half of all women are opposed to the liberal abortion
as birth control policies we have today.
On the other hand, over half of all women are supportive of them.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortion_poll030122.html
A 2003 poll by the Center for the Advancement of Women, headed by Faye
Wattleton, an ally of Senator Feinstein's from her days as the celebrated
president of Planned Parenthood, found that 51 percent of women would only
allow abortion in cases of rape or incest or to save the life of the
mother.
(Quoted from http://www.nationalreview.com/kob/obeirne200601100814.asp)
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15 Jan 2006 07:00:10 PM |
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Chris Johnson wrote:
Unpleasant Truth wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all on the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child (aside from
self defense, which is almost never the case). Thanks to the left's
culture of death, we have the most liberal pro-abortion laws in the
world.
I'm sure that when speaking in your own circles, phrases like "culture
of death" are all well and good. But when you actually talk to those
about whom you speak such things, perhaps you should moderate your
language, lest you put their backs up.
Especially when the Republican party is the party which is closely allied
with death. Look no further than Iraq.
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
You ignore, of course, that neither the Republicans or Democrats of
today hold anything like the views of those in Lincoln's day. At that
time, Democrats held a laissez-faire attitude, while Republicans were
the ones who were for "big government". The switch came with the New
Deal and Progressivism.
And you'll always hear somebody rambling that "Democrats were against the
civil rights movement in the 60s." When in truth, the Southern Democrats
(Dixiecrats) of the 60s were much closer to today's Republicans than to
todays Democrats.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
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15 Jan 2006 11:30:46 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tcOdnVz70daCbVfenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@centurytel.net...
Chris Johnson wrote:
Unpleasant Truth wrote:
<Knickkkers@WhattaIdiot.com> wrote in message
news:7gmls1lhtf65fhruv1po1bv99tueppsl3s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:57:51 -0700, "Unpleasant Truth"
<no.one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Here we have a deadly combination of pro-abortion Nazis and anti-free
speech Nazis, proving once again the enemies of liberty are almost
all on the left today
So attacking the rights of all women is okay with you?
There is NO right to kill a viable, healthy unborn child (aside from
self defense, which is almost never the case). Thanks to the left's
culture of death, we have the most liberal pro-abortion laws in the
world.
I'm sure that when speaking in your own circles, phrases like "culture
of death" are all well and good. But when you actually talk to those
about whom you speak such things, perhaps you should moderate your
language, lest you put their backs up.
Especially when the Republican party is the party which is closely allied
with death. Look no further than Iraq.
The alternative would have been the 'relative moral equivalence' to
Abortion, letting Saddamn remain in power only to continue on with his
torture chambers, mass graves and his sons rape rooms.
The Culture of Death 'is', the DimocRAT Party's character.
And even if there were such a "right," it is still the free speech right
of those who think otherwise to promote a change. Owning slaves was a
"right" - until the Republicans abolished it. (The Democrats supported
slavery, of course.) By your reckoning, the abolitionists should have
been shut up.
You ignore, of course, that neither the Republicans or Democrats of
today hold anything like the views of those in Lincoln's day. At that
time, Democrats held a laissez-faire attitude, while Republicans were
the ones who were for "big government". The switch came with the New
Deal and Progressivism.
And you'll always hear somebody rambling that "Democrats were against the
civil rights movement in the 60s." When in truth, the Southern Democrats
(Dixiecrats) of the 60s were much closer to today's Republicans than to
todays Democrats.
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