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"Philip Lewis" <nottelling@hotmail.com> wrote

Fascism is, by definition, right-wing.

So Hitler wasn't a fascist?

Alternatively, you're a jackass who doesn't know a right-winger

from a left-winger, even after it's pointed out to you.

You're welcome.

I know that national SOCIALISM is an extreme LEFT wing concept - I also
know that facile ad hominems do not an argument make!

Nor does your inability to recognize that adjectives modify nouns.

Oh so you think the word 'national' invalidates the concept of socialism
in terms of it being left wing

Yes.

- this is what you are hinting at here -

Hinting? I'm downright *TELLING YOU* that National Socialism is as far
from socialism as you can get.

but why not be explicit - lets see you present a reasoned argument and
tell us all what you REALLY think -

I've already explained it in another post.

I'm sure other readers will appreciate it more than the mindless ad
hominems you have offered up so far!

What mindless ad hominems? Do you not understand what "National
Socialism" is?

Please, for the benefit of all here, please list the ideologies of
National Socialism and compare them with the ideologies of "left-wing."

We're all waiting.

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http://www.nedgallagher.com/courses/polphil/PS431syllabus.html

Goals of Political Science 431

This course is conceived as a study in two distinct disciplines:
political philosophy and history. As such, it explores the ideologies of
various political systems in the contemporary world from both
theoretical and historical perspectives. In other words, we will
consider the ideas underlying the dominant political systems of the
modern world and examine how those ideas have been put into practice
historically. You also will find the discipline of economics provides a
useful--indeed a vital--framework for many of our discussions.

Our studies will focus on the four primary types of political
ideology prevalent in this century: liberal democracy, socialist
democracy, fascism, and communism. We will attempt to reach a critical
understanding of each system on its own merits rather than attempting to
prove the inherent "superiority" of any one system.

In addition, we hope to develop the general intellectual skills of:

a.. reading with understanding, alertness to the writer's point, and
awareness of the author's argument and theoretical framework;
b.. researching a historical question or problem thoroughly with
attention to balance, detail, and standards of scholarship;
c.. thinking analytically, creatively, critically, theoretically, and
systematically about ideas and social processes;
d.. writing thoughtfully conceived, cogently argued, and clearly
presented papers and examinations to convey your own ideas to others;
e.. listening attentively and inquisitively to those with whom you
share the classroom, realizing your teacher has no monopoly on good
ideas; and
f.. orally articulating your reactions to course materials, your ideas
on controversial topics, and your own knowledge, feelings, and
experiences when appropriate.
The course is designed with these aims in mind to be a cooperative
learning experience in appreciating and understanding the rich tapestry
of Western political philosophy. Needless to say, no such understanding
can be taught by someone else; it can only be learned for oneself.

These texts for the course--available at the school bookstore--should be
purchased by all students immediately:

a.. Leon P. Baradat, Political Ideologies: Their Origins and Impact
(Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 2000). 7th edition. [hereinafter
referred to as "Baradat"]
b.. Communism, Fascism, and Democracy: The Theoretical Foundations,
ed. by Carl Cohen (New York: Random House, 1997). 3rd edition.
[hereinafter referred to as "Cohen"]
A Modus Operandi

The following general questions should help you in your efforts to
understand the arguments expressed by proponents of different ideologies
and in sorting out the often subtle differences of philosophy between
these writers. You should be able to answer these questions based on
each night's readings.

According to the particular political philosophy being articulated:

a.. what fundamental assumptions are made regarding human nature?
b.. what role does/should government play in human society?
c.. what fundamental value(s) does/should society seek to maximize
through government?
d.. what particular social or political problem or danger is being
addressed?
e.. what is the appropriate relationship between the individual and
the state?
f.. what relationship does/should exist between the political and
economic spheres of society?
30/31. Hitler and Nazism. Read Baradat, pp. 243-264, and skim Cohen, pp.
327-342. This assignment is intentionally short to give you time to work
on Paper #2. Compare and contrast Germany's National Socialism with
fascism in Italy. In what ways were they most similar? Most different?
Note especially the role of mythology (e.g., themes in Wagner's operas)
in pre-Nazi Germany. How does this relate to Faces of the Enemy? What
was the Italian equivalent of this mythology?

"Philip Lewis" <nottelling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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:
: "DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
: news:vokXe.5402$nV1.752@trnddc06...
: > Philip Lewis wrote:
: >> "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: >> news:Ko6dnXvmlvWlRLbeRVn-ig@comcast.com...
: >>
: >>>"Philip Lewis" <nottelling@hotmail.com> wrote
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>>>Fascism is, by definition, right-wing.
: >>>
: >>>>So Hitler wasn't a fascist?
: >>>
: >>>Alternatively, you're a jackass who doesn't know a right-winger
: >>>from a left-winger, even after it's pointed out to you.
: >>>
: >>>You're welcome.
: >>
: >>
: >> I know that national SOCIALISM is an extreme LEFT wing concept - I
also
: >> know that facile ad hominems do not an argument make!
: >
: > Nor does your inability to recognize that adjectives modify nouns.
:
: Oh so you think the word 'national' invalidates the concept of
socialism in
: terms of it being left wing - this is what you are hinting at here -
but why
: not be explicit - lets see you present a reasoned argument and tell us
all
: what you REALLY think - I'm sure other readers will appreciate it more
than
: the mindless ad hominems you have offered up so far!
:
: Phil
:
:
: >
: > --
: >
: > ****************************************************
: > * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
: > *--------------------------------------------------*
: > * "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth *
: > * and nothing but the truth; so help me me." *
: > * --George Burns as God *
: > ****************************************************
:
: