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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "words of truth"
Date: 14 Sep 2005 09:33:55 AM
Object: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470
Let's get rid of cheerleading
Shmuley Boteach
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
(ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
visit his website. www.shmuley.com
As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
Bowl, it is time that we revisit the strange phenomenon of the
scantily-clad, female cheerleader. For who would have thought that 50
years after feminism, women would feel no offense when they are reduced
to go-go dancers in underwear cheering a quarterback's touchdown pass?
When I get into one of my rants about the place of women in society,
where they have been relegated to in the past and where they are now
vs. where they should be, I find myself mourning the lost
opportunities. I become frustrated by the corruption of femininity in
our society. Look at the ultimate arena of male prominence - the
sports world.

From the early days of the Greek Olympics, men have dominated athletic

pursuits while women, until recently, have been relegated to the
viewing stands. With great pains, women have fought to open the field
of sports to women and to gain the respect they deserve as proficient
and talented athletes. This is, undoubtedly, a real accomplishment.
If the goal all along had been to assert the power of women so as to
disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
to the world, we would find that even the heavily male world of sports
would have been impacted. In an overwhelming testosterone-laden field,
however, where do we see women? Take football, for example: No one is
asking women to slap on some shoulder pads and get out there on the
field with the likes of Tom Brady, but we are certainly aware that they
are there.
But in what capacity are they present, and how does the NFL's treat
women? Where do ladies come into play in this mainstay of American
culture? Why do they get to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of
dimwitted go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of bouncing
breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?
CBS, one of the main networks that airs football games, has a network
rejoin they often use as they come back to a game after a commercial
break. Amazingly, it does not show a football player. Instead, it shows
cutaway shots of cheerleaders, with a few pictures of these overly
made-up dolls jumping up and down, and then one shot - I kid you not
- of a woman's behind. A five-second close up of a woman's rear end
- that is a commercial for football? The connection? Must be esoteric
because I am not sure how the one illustrates the other.
This is truly a shame because sports arenas are an ideal case to note
how the very presence of women can impact the surrounding environment.
After all, look at the behavior of men who attend English football
(that's soccer to us Yanks) matches. They are notoriously violent.
There have been tragic stories about the crowds getting out of hand and
about rival fans brutally assaulting one another.
Additionally, if you have not been to a match yourself, let me tell you
that you had better not be prudish or refined because you are going to
hear an earful of outrageous screaming that even the crassest NFL fan
might find blush-worthy! When you go to a British soccer game, you run
the risk of being trampled to death by the usual army of drunken
animals.
And why are they such embarrassing brutes? Search the stands the next
time you watch British football on television and you will scarcely
ever find a single woman (assuming you can stay awake for the
predictable nil-nil final score, international soccer being the one
exception to the rule that men are goal-oriented).
Some might propose that this riotous behavior is a product of
socio-economic factors in that English football tickets are cheap -
which means that the men in attendance are often working class or out
of work altogether. I do not doubt that these sorts of contributors
impact the behavior one sees at an English football match, but how does
that explain the crowds at American football matches?
Tickets to an NFL game are not cheap, which means that we are not
dealing with a crowd of aggressive and frustrated out-of-work men who
need to let off a bit of steam. Yet at Oakland Raiders' games alone
there have been incidents that have escalated as far as stabbings. It
is not even a matter of rival fans getting out of control since,
according to Gary Schellenberg of the Alameda County Sheriff's
Department, 95 percent of the violence at Raider games involve Raider
fan on Raider fan.
Apart from crazed Raider fans, however, most American football fans
really only run the risk of having their eardrums burst by
earthquake-like burps from bare-chested brutes on a Heineken drip.
Still, where are male fans the best behaved? Even amid the disgusting
brawl that broke out between the Indian Pacers and the Detroit Pistons,
by and large, it is at basketball games, because they attract the
largest percentage of female fans.
Men are simply more civilized around women. Flatulence jokes are common
among men who can think of nothing funnier than passing gas around each
other and guessing "whoever smelt it dealt it." But when's the last
time a man walked over to an attractive woman at a bar and asked her to
"pull my finger"?
Just think about it: Even in this very masculine world of sports, even
when there are scantily clad women to cater to the lascivious nature of
men, the very presence of women in the stands can at least curb the
more animalistic nature of man - the violent, aggressive traits that
helped men survive before civilization developed. If, under even these
adverse circumstances, women can have a positive influence, think of
what they might be able to accomplish if they band together to assert
their value and insist upon the respect they deserve, rather than
pandering to the baser expectations that have become popular.
And speaking of catering to the basest of instincts, I found it
pathetic to see the replays of Brandi Chastain who celebrated her
teams' victory in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup Championship by
taking off her shirt. It was every couch potato's dream: dirt, sports,
women and breasts. I can not tell you how many men I met who said that
this sort of fantasy is what inspires them to watch women's sports in
the first place, the thought that at any moment, the female players may
rip off their clothing and jump all over each other.
So much for an appreciation of athleticism. But what do we expect when
the women who work their way into the spotlight at major sporting
events are doing so in their underwear when they parade around as
cheerleaders? How could this possibly be an ennobling role? Only a
society that harbors an utter lack of modesty and a constant debasing
of the commodity and dignity of the female form could ever produce a
women who would think nothing of whipping off her shirt on national
television as Chastain did.
Yes, friends, it is time, finally, to get rid of the cheerleaders and
condition men to respect women rather than merely be titillated by
them.
.

User: "Bald Geezer"

Title: Re: Let's Make Cheerleading Illegal, And Throw All Cheerleaders In Jail 27 Sep 2005 04:28:37 PM

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User: "James A. Donald"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 12:20:02 PM
--
On 14 Sep 2005 07:33:55 -0700, "words of truth"

But in what capacity are they present, and how does
the NFL's treat women? Where do ladies come into play
in this mainstay of American culture? Why do they get
to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of dimwitted
go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of
bouncing breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?

In cheerleading, the cheerleaders not only show off
their reproductive assets, but also strength,
flexibility, dexterity, agility, skill, and endurance.
--digsig
James A. Donald
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http://www.jim.com
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User: "Philip Lewis"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 05:45:43 PM
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Let's get rid of cheerleading

Why stop there - nature is STUPID and 'sexism' is the enemy right - so lets
get rid of women alltogether. I mean women are having a hard time keeping up
with men - even with all the 'leg up' programs and special waivers for entry
in certian carreers - we still hear daily reports that women are still
'losing out'. It's hard to compete with a man unless you ARE a man - so lets
get rid of women and ONLY breed men - after all nature doesn't understand
feminist dogma and keeps refusing to obey it - so lets end the human race
and breed only MEN!
Phil
--
If we (men) indulged in petty vindictiveness as much as women there would be
no such thing as male chivalry. (Somebody on Usenet 2004)
JohnPaul Sahtah whaddafackin KANT! (Alexis Sayle)

Shmuley Boteach


Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
(ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
visit his website. www.shmuley.com




As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
Bowl, it is time that we revisit the strange phenomenon of the
scantily-clad, female cheerleader. For who would have thought that 50
years after feminism, women would feel no offense when they are reduced
to go-go dancers in underwear cheering a quarterback's touchdown pass?

When I get into one of my rants about the place of women in society,
where they have been relegated to in the past and where they are now
vs. where they should be, I find myself mourning the lost
opportunities. I become frustrated by the corruption of femininity in
our society. Look at the ultimate arena of male prominence - the
sports world.

From the early days of the Greek Olympics, men have dominated athletic

pursuits while women, until recently, have been relegated to the
viewing stands. With great pains, women have fought to open the field
of sports to women and to gain the respect they deserve as proficient
and talented athletes. This is, undoubtedly, a real accomplishment.

If the goal all along had been to assert the power of women so as to
disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
to the world, we would find that even the heavily male world of sports
would have been impacted. In an overwhelming testosterone-laden field,
however, where do we see women? Take football, for example: No one is
asking women to slap on some shoulder pads and get out there on the
field with the likes of Tom Brady, but we are certainly aware that they
are there.

But in what capacity are they present, and how does the NFL's treat
women? Where do ladies come into play in this mainstay of American
culture? Why do they get to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of
dimwitted go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of bouncing
breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?

CBS, one of the main networks that airs football games, has a network
rejoin they often use as they come back to a game after a commercial
break. Amazingly, it does not show a football player. Instead, it shows
cutaway shots of cheerleaders, with a few pictures of these overly
made-up dolls jumping up and down, and then one shot - I kid you not
- of a woman's behind. A five-second close up of a woman's rear end
- that is a commercial for football? The connection? Must be esoteric
because I am not sure how the one illustrates the other.

This is truly a shame because sports arenas are an ideal case to note
how the very presence of women can impact the surrounding environment.
After all, look at the behavior of men who attend English football
(that's soccer to us Yanks) matches. They are notoriously violent.
There have been tragic stories about the crowds getting out of hand and
about rival fans brutally assaulting one another.

Additionally, if you have not been to a match yourself, let me tell you
that you had better not be prudish or refined because you are going to
hear an earful of outrageous screaming that even the crassest NFL fan
might find blush-worthy! When you go to a British soccer game, you run
the risk of being trampled to death by the usual army of drunken
animals.

And why are they such embarrassing brutes? Search the stands the next
time you watch British football on television and you will scarcely
ever find a single woman (assuming you can stay awake for the
predictable nil-nil final score, international soccer being the one
exception to the rule that men are goal-oriented).

Some might propose that this riotous behavior is a product of
socio-economic factors in that English football tickets are cheap -
which means that the men in attendance are often working class or out
of work altogether. I do not doubt that these sorts of contributors
impact the behavior one sees at an English football match, but how does
that explain the crowds at American football matches?

Tickets to an NFL game are not cheap, which means that we are not
dealing with a crowd of aggressive and frustrated out-of-work men who
need to let off a bit of steam. Yet at Oakland Raiders' games alone
there have been incidents that have escalated as far as stabbings. It
is not even a matter of rival fans getting out of control since,
according to Gary Schellenberg of the Alameda County Sheriff's
Department, 95 percent of the violence at Raider games involve Raider
fan on Raider fan.

Apart from crazed Raider fans, however, most American football fans
really only run the risk of having their eardrums burst by
earthquake-like burps from bare-chested brutes on a Heineken drip.
Still, where are male fans the best behaved? Even amid the disgusting
brawl that broke out between the Indian Pacers and the Detroit Pistons,
by and large, it is at basketball games, because they attract the
largest percentage of female fans.

Men are simply more civilized around women. Flatulence jokes are common
among men who can think of nothing funnier than passing gas around each
other and guessing "whoever smelt it dealt it." But when's the last
time a man walked over to an attractive woman at a bar and asked her to
"pull my finger"?

Just think about it: Even in this very masculine world of sports, even
when there are scantily clad women to cater to the lascivious nature of
men, the very presence of women in the stands can at least curb the
more animalistic nature of man - the violent, aggressive traits that
helped men survive before civilization developed. If, under even these
adverse circumstances, women can have a positive influence, think of
what they might be able to accomplish if they band together to assert
their value and insist upon the respect they deserve, rather than
pandering to the baser expectations that have become popular.

And speaking of catering to the basest of instincts, I found it
pathetic to see the replays of Brandi Chastain who celebrated her
teams' victory in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup Championship by
taking off her shirt. It was every couch potato's dream: dirt, sports,
women and breasts. I can not tell you how many men I met who said that
this sort of fantasy is what inspires them to watch women's sports in
the first place, the thought that at any moment, the female players may
rip off their clothing and jump all over each other.

So much for an appreciation of athleticism. But what do we expect when
the women who work their way into the spotlight at major sporting
events are doing so in their underwear when they parade around as
cheerleaders? How could this possibly be an ennobling role? Only a
society that harbors an utter lack of modesty and a constant debasing
of the commodity and dignity of the female form could ever produce a
women who would think nothing of whipping off her shirt on national
television as Chastain did.

Yes, friends, it is time, finally, to get rid of the cheerleaders and
condition men to respect women rather than merely be titillated by
them.

.

User: "El Conquistador"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 07:27:46 PM
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470

Let's get rid of cheerleading

Shmuley Boteach


Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
(ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
visit his website. www.shmuley.com




As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
Bowl, it is time that we revisit the strange phenomenon of the
scantily-clad, female cheerleader. For who would have thought that 50
years after feminism, women would feel no offense when they are reduced
to go-go dancers in underwear cheering a quarterback's touchdown pass?

When I get into one of my rants about the place of women in society,
where they have been relegated to in the past and where they are now
vs. where they should be, I find myself mourning the lost
opportunities. I become frustrated by the corruption of femininity in
our society. Look at the ultimate arena of male prominence - the
sports world.

From the early days of the Greek Olympics, men have dominated athletic

pursuits while women, until recently, have been relegated to the
viewing stands. With great pains, women have fought to open the field
of sports to women and to gain the respect they deserve as proficient
and talented athletes. This is, undoubtedly, a real accomplishment.

If the goal all along had been to assert the power of women so as to
disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
to the world, we would find that even the heavily male world of sports
would have been impacted. In an overwhelming testosterone-laden field,
however, where do we see women? Take football, for example: No one is
asking women to slap on some shoulder pads and get out there on the
field with the likes of Tom Brady, but we are certainly aware that they
are there.

But in what capacity are they present, and how does the NFL's treat
women? Where do ladies come into play in this mainstay of American
culture? Why do they get to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of
dimwitted go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of bouncing
breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?

CBS, one of the main networks that airs football games, has a network
rejoin they often use as they come back to a game after a commercial
break. Amazingly, it does not show a football player. Instead, it shows
cutaway shots of cheerleaders, with a few pictures of these overly
made-up dolls jumping up and down, and then one shot - I kid you not
- of a woman's behind. A five-second close up of a woman's rear end
- that is a commercial for football? The connection? Must be esoteric
because I am not sure how the one illustrates the other.

This is truly a shame because sports arenas are an ideal case to note
how the very presence of women can impact the surrounding environment.
After all, look at the behavior of men who attend English football
(that's soccer to us Yanks) matches. They are notoriously violent.
There have been tragic stories about the crowds getting out of hand and
about rival fans brutally assaulting one another.

Additionally, if you have not been to a match yourself, let me tell you
that you had better not be prudish or refined because you are going to
hear an earful of outrageous screaming that even the crassest NFL fan
might find blush-worthy! When you go to a British soccer game, you run
the risk of being trampled to death by the usual army of drunken
animals.

And why are they such embarrassing brutes? Search the stands the next
time you watch British football on television and you will scarcely
ever find a single woman (assuming you can stay awake for the
predictable nil-nil final score, international soccer being the one
exception to the rule that men are goal-oriented).

Some might propose that this riotous behavior is a product of
socio-economic factors in that English football tickets are cheap -
which means that the men in attendance are often working class or out
of work altogether. I do not doubt that these sorts of contributors
impact the behavior one sees at an English football match, but how does
that explain the crowds at American football matches?

Tickets to an NFL game are not cheap, which means that we are not
dealing with a crowd of aggressive and frustrated out-of-work men who
need to let off a bit of steam. Yet at Oakland Raiders' games alone
there have been incidents that have escalated as far as stabbings. It
is not even a matter of rival fans getting out of control since,
according to Gary Schellenberg of the Alameda County Sheriff's
Department, 95 percent of the violence at Raider games involve Raider
fan on Raider fan.

Apart from crazed Raider fans, however, most American football fans
really only run the risk of having their eardrums burst by
earthquake-like burps from bare-chested brutes on a Heineken drip.
Still, where are male fans the best behaved? Even amid the disgusting
brawl that broke out between the Indian Pacers and the Detroit Pistons,
by and large, it is at basketball games, because they attract the
largest percentage of female fans.

Men are simply more civilized around women. Flatulence jokes are common
among men who can think of nothing funnier than passing gas around each
other and guessing "whoever smelt it dealt it." But when's the last
time a man walked over to an attractive woman at a bar and asked her to
"pull my finger"?

Just think about it: Even in this very masculine world of sports, even
when there are scantily clad women to cater to the lascivious nature of
men, the very presence of women in the stands can at least curb the
more animalistic nature of man - the violent, aggressive traits that
helped men survive before civilization developed. If, under even these
adverse circumstances, women can have a positive influence, think of
what they might be able to accomplish if they band together to assert
their value and insist upon the respect they deserve, rather than
pandering to the baser expectations that have become popular.

And speaking of catering to the basest of instincts, I found it
pathetic to see the replays of Brandi Chastain who celebrated her
teams' victory in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup Championship by
taking off her shirt. It was every couch potato's dream: dirt, sports,
women and breasts. I can not tell you how many men I met who said that
this sort of fantasy is what inspires them to watch women's sports in
the first place, the thought that at any moment, the female players may
rip off their clothing and jump all over each other.

So much for an appreciation of athleticism. But what do we expect when
the women who work their way into the spotlight at major sporting
events are doing so in their underwear when they parade around as
cheerleaders? How could this possibly be an ennobling role? Only a
society that harbors an utter lack of modesty and a constant debasing
of the commodity and dignity of the female form could ever produce a
women who would think nothing of whipping off her shirt on national
television as Chastain did.

Yes, friends, it is time, finally, to get rid of the cheerleaders and
condition men to respect women rather than merely be titillated by
them.

Completely agreed! Good rabbi!
.
User: "Sean_MacCloud"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 16 Sep 2005 08:01:42 AM
El Conquistador wrote:

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Let's get rid of cheerleading

Shmuley Boteach


Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
(ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
visit his website. www.shmuley.com




As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
Bowl, it is time that we revisit the strange phenomenon of the
scantily-clad, female cheerleader. For who would have thought that 50
years after feminism, women would feel no offense when they are reduced
to go-go dancers in underwear cheering a quarterback's touchdown pass?

When I get into one of my rants about the place of women in society,
where they have been relegated to in the past and where they are now
vs. where they should be, I find myself mourning the lost
opportunities. I become frustrated by the corruption of femininity in
our society. Look at the ultimate arena of male prominence - the
sports world.

From the early days of the Greek Olympics, men have dominated athletic

pursuits while women, until recently, have been relegated to the
viewing stands. With great pains, women have fought to open the field
of sports to women and to gain the respect they deserve as proficient
and talented athletes. This is, undoubtedly, a real accomplishment.

If the goal all along had been to assert the power of women so as to
disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
to the world, we would find that even the heavily male world of sports
would have been impacted. In an overwhelming testosterone-laden field,
however, where do we see women? Take football, for example: No one is
asking women to slap on some shoulder pads and get out there on the
field with the likes of Tom Brady, but we are certainly aware that they
are there.

But in what capacity are they present, and how does the NFL's treat
women? Where do ladies come into play in this mainstay of American
culture? Why do they get to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of
dimwitted go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of bouncing
breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?

CBS, one of the main networks that airs football games, has a network
rejoin they often use as they come back to a game after a commercial
break. Amazingly, it does not show a football player. Instead, it shows
cutaway shots of cheerleaders, with a few pictures of these overly
made-up dolls jumping up and down, and then one shot - I kid you not
- of a woman's behind. A five-second close up of a woman's rear end
- that is a commercial for football? The connection? Must be esoteric
because I am not sure how the one illustrates the other.

This is truly a shame because sports arenas are an ideal case to note
how the very presence of women can impact the surrounding environment.
After all, look at the behavior of men who attend English football
(that's soccer to us Yanks) matches. They are notoriously violent.
There have been tragic stories about the crowds getting out of hand and
about rival fans brutally assaulting one another.

Additionally, if you have not been to a match yourself, let me tell you
that you had better not be prudish or refined because you are going to
hear an earful of outrageous screaming that even the crassest NFL fan
might find blush-worthy! When you go to a British soccer game, you run
the risk of being trampled to death by the usual army of drunken
animals.

And why are they such embarrassing brutes? Search the stands the next
time you watch British football on television and you will scarcely
ever find a single woman (assuming you can stay awake for the
predictable nil-nil final score, international soccer being the one
exception to the rule that men are goal-oriented).

Some might propose that this riotous behavior is a product of
socio-economic factors in that English football tickets are cheap -
which means that the men in attendance are often working class or out
of work altogether. I do not doubt that these sorts of contributors
impact the behavior one sees at an English football match, but how does
that explain the crowds at American football matches?

Tickets to an NFL game are not cheap, which means that we are not
dealing with a crowd of aggressive and frustrated out-of-work men who
need to let off a bit of steam. Yet at Oakland Raiders' games alone
there have been incidents that have escalated as far as stabbings. It
is not even a matter of rival fans getting out of control since,
according to Gary Schellenberg of the Alameda County Sheriff's
Department, 95 percent of the violence at Raider games involve Raider
fan on Raider fan.

Apart from crazed Raider fans, however, most American football fans
really only run the risk of having their eardrums burst by
earthquake-like burps from bare-chested brutes on a Heineken drip.
Still, where are male fans the best behaved? Even amid the disgusting
brawl that broke out between the Indian Pacers and the Detroit Pistons,
by and large, it is at basketball games, because they attract the
largest percentage of female fans.

Men are simply more civilized around women. Flatulence jokes are common
among men who can think of nothing funnier than passing gas around each
other and guessing "whoever smelt it dealt it." But when's the last
time a man walked over to an attractive woman at a bar and asked her to
"pull my finger"?

Just think about it: Even in this very masculine world of sports, even
when there are scantily clad women to cater to the lascivious nature of
men, the very presence of women in the stands can at least curb the
more animalistic nature of man - the violent, aggressive traits that
helped men survive before civilization developed. If, under even these
adverse circumstances, women can have a positive influence, think of
what they might be able to accomplish if they band together to assert
their value and insist upon the respect they deserve, rather than
pandering to the baser expectations that have become popular.

And speaking of catering to the basest of instincts, I found it
pathetic to see the replays of Brandi Chastain who celebrated her
teams' victory in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup Championship by
taking off her shirt. It was every couch potato's dream: dirt, sports,
women and breasts. I can not tell you how many men I met who said that
this sort of fantasy is what inspires them to watch women's sports in
the first place, the thought that at any moment, the female players may
rip off their clothing and jump all over each other.

So much for an appreciation of athleticism. But what do we expect when
the women who work their way into the spotlight at major sporting
events are doing so in their underwear when they parade around as
cheerleaders? How could this possibly be an ennobling role? Only a
society that harbors an utter lack of modesty and a constant debasing
of the commodity and dignity of the female form could ever produce a
women who would think nothing of whipping off her shirt on national
television as Chastain did.

Yes, friends, it is time, finally, to get rid of the cheerleaders and
condition men to respect women rather than merely be titillated by
them.


Completely agreed! Good rabbi!

------------

disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
to the world
and
condition men

Pyschological warfare.
Pretty savvy coming from an idiot [religious] wackjob. So simply matter of
factly stated too.
Much more political awareness than even the mildly intelligent goy achieve.
Maybe instinct even.
Death camps.
.


User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 05:12:21 PM
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470

Let's get rid of cheerleading

Right, women should not be allowed to do things, even if they want to.
Retard.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
.

User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 09:23:02 PM
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: יום חמישי 15 ספטמבר 2005 00:49
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Sept 2005
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SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2005
Meet at the corner of Beach and Hyde (across street from cable car)
at Fisherman’s Wharf
NOON – 4PM
Celebrate the San Francisco DA’s September 22, 2004 announcement that
“being naked in San Francisco is not a crime unless (one) had lewd
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Join with activists of many nudist/naturist associations, spas, and
resorts. Members of naked bike ride groups. Several naked dance
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Wrestling, running, tag, swimming, and gymnastics. Bring your bicycles.
Participants in this celebration learn of it through networking.
Tell your naked friends of the event and have them bring their naked
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THIS EVENT IS FUN, UNORGANIZED, AND FREE.
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470
:
: Let's get rid of cheerleading
:
: Shmuley Boteach
:
:
: Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
: 2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
: Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
: hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
: Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
: (ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
: visit his website. www.shmuley.com
:
:
:
:
: As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
: Bowl, it is time that we revisit the strange phenomenon of the
: scantily-clad, female cheerleader. For who would have thought that 50
: years after feminism, women would feel no offense when they are
reduced
: to go-go dancers in underwear cheering a quarterback's touchdown pass?
:
: When I get into one of my rants about the place of women in society,
: where they have been relegated to in the past and where they are now
: vs. where they should be, I find myself mourning the lost
: opportunities. I become frustrated by the corruption of femininity in
: our society. Look at the ultimate arena of male prominence - the
: sports world.
:
: >From the early days of the Greek Olympics, men have dominated
athletic
: pursuits while women, until recently, have been relegated to the
: viewing stands. With great pains, women have fought to open the field
: of sports to women and to gain the respect they deserve as proficient
: and talented athletes. This is, undoubtedly, a real accomplishment.
:
: If the goal all along had been to assert the power of women so as to
: disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
: to the world, we would find that even the heavily male world of sports
: would have been impacted. In an overwhelming testosterone-laden field,
: however, where do we see women? Take football, for example: No one is
: asking women to slap on some shoulder pads and get out there on the
: field with the likes of Tom Brady, but we are certainly aware that
they
: are there.
:
: But in what capacity are they present, and how does the NFL's treat
: women? Where do ladies come into play in this mainstay of American
: culture? Why do they get to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of
: dimwitted go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of bouncing
: breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?
:
: CBS, one of the main networks that airs football games, has a network
: rejoin they often use as they come back to a game after a commercial
: break. Amazingly, it does not show a football player. Instead, it
shows
: cutaway shots of cheerleaders, with a few pictures of these overly
: made-up dolls jumping up and down, and then one shot - I kid you not
: - of a woman's behind. A five-second close up of a woman's rear end
: - that is a commercial for football? The connection? Must be esoteric
: because I am not sure how the one illustrates the other.
:
: This is truly a shame because sports arenas are an ideal case to note
: how the very presence of women can impact the surrounding environment.
: After all, look at the behavior of men who attend English football
: (that's soccer to us Yanks) matches. They are notoriously violent.
: There have been tragic stories about the crowds getting out of hand
and
: about rival fans brutally assaulting one another.
:
: Additionally, if you have not been to a match yourself, let me tell
you
: that you had better not be prudish or refined because you are going to
: hear an earful of outrageous screaming that even the crassest NFL fan
: might find blush-worthy! When you go to a British soccer game, you run
: the risk of being trampled to death by the usual army of drunken
: animals.
:
: And why are they such embarrassing brutes? Search the stands the next
: time you watch British football on television and you will scarcely
: ever find a single woman (assuming you can stay awake for the
: predictable nil-nil final score, international soccer being the one
: exception to the rule that men are goal-oriented).
:
: Some might propose that this riotous behavior is a product of
: socio-economic factors in that English football tickets are cheap -
: which means that the men in attendance are often working class or out
: of work altogether. I do not doubt that these sorts of contributors
: impact the behavior one sees at an English football match, but how
does
: that explain the crowds at American football matches?
:
: Tickets to an NFL game are not cheap, which means that we are not
: dealing with a crowd of aggressive and frustrated out-of-work men who
: need to let off a bit of steam. Yet at Oakland Raiders' games alone
: there have been incidents that have escalated as far as stabbings. It
: is not even a matter of rival fans getting out of control since,
: according to Gary Schellenberg of the Alameda County Sheriff's
: Department, 95 percent of the violence at Raider games involve Raider
: fan on Raider fan.
:
: Apart from crazed Raider fans, however, most American football fans
: really only run the risk of having their eardrums burst by
: earthquake-like burps from bare-chested brutes on a Heineken drip.
: Still, where are male fans the best behaved? Even amid the disgusting
: brawl that broke out between the Indian Pacers and the Detroit
Pistons,
: by and large, it is at basketball games, because they attract the
: largest percentage of female fans.
:
: Men are simply more civilized around women. Flatulence jokes are
common
: among men who can think of nothing funnier than passing gas around
each
: other and guessing "whoever smelt it dealt it." But when's the last
: time a man walked over to an attractive woman at a bar and asked her
to
: "pull my finger"?
:
: Just think about it: Even in this very masculine world of sports, even
: when there are scantily clad women to cater to the lascivious nature
of
: men, the very presence of women in the stands can at least curb the
: more animalistic nature of man - the violent, aggressive traits that
: helped men survive before civilization developed. If, under even these
: adverse circumstances, women can have a positive influence, think of
: what they might be able to accomplish if they band together to assert
: their value and insist upon the respect they deserve, rather than
: pandering to the baser expectations that have become popular.
:
: And speaking of catering to the basest of instincts, I found it
: pathetic to see the replays of Brandi Chastain who celebrated her
: teams' victory in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup Championship by
: taking off her shirt. It was every couch potato's dream: dirt, sports,
: women and breasts. I can not tell you how many men I met who said that
: this sort of fantasy is what inspires them to watch women's sports in
: the first place, the thought that at any moment, the female players
may
: rip off their clothing and jump all over each other.
:
: So much for an appreciation of athleticism. But what do we expect when
: the women who work their way into the spotlight at major sporting
: events are doing so in their underwear when they parade around as
: cheerleaders? How could this possibly be an ennobling role? Only a
: society that harbors an utter lack of modesty and a constant debasing
: of the commodity and dignity of the female form could ever produce a
: women who would think nothing of whipping off her shirt on national
: television as Chastain did.
:
: Yes, friends, it is time, finally, to get rid of the cheerleaders and
: condition men to respect women rather than merely be titillated by
: them.
:
.

User: "Rushtown"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 01:38:22 PM
If a woman does not "titillate" what use is she?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 09:04:40 AM
On 14-Sep-2005, "Rushtown" <Rushtown@aol.com> wrote:

If a woman does not "titillate" what use is she?

Yes, thanks for admitting that you've never had sex, & for exposing the
reason why.
Now go back to playing in traffic.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 07:41:11 PM
either ugly or prude.
---------------
www.urine-pimp.com
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 16 Sep 2005 09:34:36 AM
On 15-Sep-2005,
wrote:

either ugly or prude.

I don't care which you are - but I suspect the former.
.



User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 03:12:45 PM
Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those uniforms
show off their tight asses.
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470
:
: Let's get rid of cheerleading
:
: Shmuley Boteach
:
:
: Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
: 2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
: Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
: hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
: Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
: (ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
: visit his website. www.shmuley.com
:
:
:
:
: As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
: Bowl, it is time that we revisit the strange phenomenon of the
: scantily-clad, female cheerleader. For who would have thought that 50
: years after feminism, women would feel no offense when they are
reduced
: to go-go dancers in underwear cheering a quarterback's touchdown pass?
:
: When I get into one of my rants about the place of women in society,
: where they have been relegated to in the past and where they are now
: vs. where they should be, I find myself mourning the lost
: opportunities. I become frustrated by the corruption of femininity in
: our society. Look at the ultimate arena of male prominence - the
: sports world.
:
: >From the early days of the Greek Olympics, men have dominated
athletic
: pursuits while women, until recently, have been relegated to the
: viewing stands. With great pains, women have fought to open the field
: of sports to women and to gain the respect they deserve as proficient
: and talented athletes. This is, undoubtedly, a real accomplishment.
:
: If the goal all along had been to assert the power of women so as to
: disseminate the idea that women have an elevating influence to impart
: to the world, we would find that even the heavily male world of sports
: would have been impacted. In an overwhelming testosterone-laden field,
: however, where do we see women? Take football, for example: No one is
: asking women to slap on some shoulder pads and get out there on the
: field with the likes of Tom Brady, but we are certainly aware that
they
: are there.
:
: But in what capacity are they present, and how does the NFL's treat
: women? Where do ladies come into play in this mainstay of American
: culture? Why do they get to be seen on the sidelines as a bunch of
: dimwitted go-go dancers, reduced, basically, to a pair of bouncing
: breasts who egg on the muscle-laden athletes?
:
: CBS, one of the main networks that airs football games, has a network
: rejoin they often use as they come back to a game after a commercial
: break. Amazingly, it does not show a football player. Instead, it
shows
: cutaway shots of cheerleaders, with a few pictures of these overly
: made-up dolls jumping up and down, and then one shot - I kid you not
: - of a woman's behind. A five-second close up of a woman's rear end
: - that is a commercial for football? The connection? Must be esoteric
: because I am not sure how the one illustrates the other.
:
: This is truly a shame because sports arenas are an ideal case to note
: how the very presence of women can impact the surrounding environment.
: After all, look at the behavior of men who attend English football
: (that's soccer to us Yanks) matches. They are notoriously violent.
: There have been tragic stories about the crowds getting out of hand
and
: about rival fans brutally assaulting one another.
:
: Additionally, if you have not been to a match yourself, let me tell
you
: that you had better not be prudish or refined because you are going to
: hear an earful of outrageous screaming that even the crassest NFL fan
: might find blush-worthy! When you go to a British soccer game, you run
: the risk of being trampled to death by the usual army of drunken
: animals.
:
: And why are they such embarrassing brutes? Search the stands the next
: time you watch British football on television and you will scarcely
: ever find a single woman (assuming you can stay awake for the
: predictable nil-nil final score, international soccer being the one
: exception to the rule that men are goal-oriented).
:
: Some might propose that this riotous behavior is a product of
: socio-economic factors in that English football tickets are cheap -
: which means that the men in attendance are often working class or out
: of work altogether. I do not doubt that these sorts of contributors
: impact the behavior one sees at an English football match, but how
does
: that explain the crowds at American football matches?
:
: Tickets to an NFL game are not cheap, which means that we are not
: dealing with a crowd of aggressive and frustrated out-of-work men who
: need to let off a bit of steam. Yet at Oakland Raiders' games alone
: there have been incidents that have escalated as far as stabbings. It
: is not even a matter of rival fans getting out of control since,
: according to Gary Schellenberg of the Alameda County Sheriff's
: Department, 95 percent of the violence at Raider games involve Raider
: fan on Raider fan.
:
: Apart from crazed Raider fans, however, most American football fans
: really only run the risk of having their eardrums burst by
: earthquake-like burps from bare-chested brutes on a Heineken drip.
: Still, where are male fans the best behaved? Even amid the disgusting
: brawl that broke out between the Indian Pacers and the Detroit
Pistons,
: by and large, it is at basketball games, because they attract the
: largest percentage of female fans.
:
: Men are simply more civilized around women. Flatulence jokes are
common
: among men who can think of nothing funnier than passing gas around
each
: other and guessing "whoever smelt it dealt it." But when's the last
: time a man walked over to an attractive woman at a bar and asked her
to
: "pull my finger"?
:
: Just think about it: Even in this very masculine world of sports, even
: when there are scantily clad women to cater to the lascivious nature
of
: men, the very presence of women in the stands can at least curb the
: more animalistic nature of man - the violent, aggressive traits that
: helped men survive before civilization developed. If, under even these
: adverse circumstances, women can have a positive influence, think of
: what they might be able to accomplish if they band together to assert
: their value and insist upon the respect they deserve, rather than
: pandering to the baser expectations that have become popular.
:
: And speaking of catering to the basest of instincts, I found it
: pathetic to see the replays of Brandi Chastain who celebrated her
: teams' victory in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup Championship by
: taking off her shirt. It was every couch potato's dream: dirt, sports,
: women and breasts. I can not tell you how many men I met who said that
: this sort of fantasy is what inspires them to watch women's sports in
: the first place, the thought that at any moment, the female players
may
: rip off their clothing and jump all over each other.
:
: So much for an appreciation of athleticism. But what do we expect when
: the women who work their way into the spotlight at major sporting
: events are doing so in their underwear when they parade around as
: cheerleaders? How could this possibly be an ennobling role? Only a
: society that harbors an utter lack of modesty and a constant debasing
: of the commodity and dignity of the female form could ever produce a
: women who would think nothing of whipping off her shirt on national
: television as Chastain did.
:
: Yes, friends, it is time, finally, to get rid of the cheerleaders and
: condition men to respect women rather than merely be titillated by
: them.
:
.
User: "Aunt Gabby"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 01:01:57 AM
"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those uniforms
show off their tight asses.


Get rid of football? Good heavens, what will these women-haters look at when
they are no longer have attractive young women to look at? Those tight
football player asses is all most of these losers will ever have. Maybe a
few of these guys will hook-up with these players, come out of the closet,
and LEAVE WOMEN ALONE!!!


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:
: Let's get rid of cheerleading
:

.
User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 01:09:40 AM
*chuckle*
Well if you want to improve American football, get rid of all of that
padding and change the uniforms to Rugby style!
"Aunt Gabby" <GabbyMills@aol.com> wrote in message
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:
: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
: > Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those
uniforms
: > show off their tight asses.
: >
: >
:
: Get rid of football? Good heavens, what will these women-haters look
at when
: they are no longer have attractive young women to look at? Those tight
: football player asses is all most of these losers will ever have.
Maybe a
: few of these guys will hook-up with these players, come out of the
closet,
: and LEAVE WOMEN ALONE!!!
:
:
:
:
: >
: > "words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
: > news:1126708435.568309.127000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
: > : http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470
: > :
: > : Let's get rid of cheerleading
: > :
:
:
:
:
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 16 Sep 2005 01:22:25 PM
=F8=E9=F2=E9=EF =E1=F8=FA=E5=EF=FD/Riain Barton wrote:

*chuckle*

Well if you want to improve American football, get rid of all of that
padding and change the uniforms to Rugby style!

They wouldn't be able to hit any where nearly as hard as they do.
Having played both, I'd say that rugby is rougher and American football
is tougher. If rugby players hit each other at the same speeds and
forces in the same places, there'd be deaths in every other match.
Also, rugby is played by more middle-class and slightly posh blokes
whereas the majority of American football players have the same
mentalities that go with names like Bubba and Rufus rather than the
Lawrences and Martins of the rugby world. Let's face it, they have to
stop every thirty seconds to figure out what to do next unlike the
flowing "think on your feet" rugby. The more you compare the two, it
seems the less they have in common, although, with the pads, the rugby
players stand a better chance of producing watchable American football
than the football players do of playing watchable rugby--but the
concept of a forward pass might be the trickiest thing to learn for the
rugby players to get to grips with.



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:
: "=F8=E9=F2=E9=EF =E1=F8=FA=E5=EF=FD/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> w=

rote in message

: news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
: > Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those
uniforms
: > show off their tight asses.
: >
: >
:
: Get rid of football? Good heavens, what will these women-haters look
at when
: they are no longer have attractive young women to look at? Those tight
: football player asses is all most of these losers will ever have.
Maybe a
: few of these guys will hook-up with these players, come out of the
closet,
: and LEAVE WOMEN ALONE!!!
:
:
:
:
: >
: > "words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
: > news:1126708435.568309.127000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
: > : http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=3D42470
: > :
: > : Let's get rid of cheerleading
: > :
:
:
:
:

.
User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 16 Sep 2005 01:57:09 PM
I have played both as well, and also Gaelic Football and of course
Hurling.
There is a saying in Ireland:
Football [Soccer] is a game played by gentlemen, watched by thugs.
Rugby is a game played by thugs, watched by gentlemen!
*chuckle*
American football sucks, and I have no use for it.
Aussie Rules Footy, RULES! *grin*
<PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126894945.073178.222520@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton wrote:

*chuckle*

Well if you want to improve American football, get rid of all of that
padding and change the uniforms to Rugby style!

They wouldn't be able to hit any where nearly as hard as they do.
Having played both, I'd say that rugby is rougher and American football
is tougher. If rugby players hit each other at the same speeds and
forces in the same places, there'd be deaths in every other match.
Also, rugby is played by more middle-class and slightly posh blokes
whereas the majority of American football players have the same
mentalities that go with names like Bubba and Rufus rather than the
Lawrences and Martins of the rugby world. Let's face it, they have to
stop every thirty seconds to figure out what to do next unlike the
flowing "think on your feet" rugby. The more you compare the two, it
seems the less they have in common, although, with the pads, the rugby
players stand a better chance of producing watchable American football
than the football players do of playing watchable rugby--but the
concept of a forward pass might be the trickiest thing to learn for the
rugby players to get to grips with.



"Aunt Gabby" <GabbyMills@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Mdedna6eNe1Ik7TeRVn-qA@giganews.com...
:
: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
: > Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those
uniforms
: > show off their tight asses.
: >
: >
:
: Get rid of football? Good heavens, what will these women-haters look
at when
: they are no longer have attractive young women to look at? Those
tight
: football player asses is all most of these losers will ever have.
Maybe a
: few of these guys will hook-up with these players, come out of the
closet,
: and LEAVE WOMEN ALONE!!!
:
:
:
:
: >
: > "words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
: > news:1126708435.568309.127000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 17 Sep 2005 05:08:31 AM
=F8=E9=F2=E9=EF =E1=F8=FA=E5=EF=FD/Riain Barton wrote:

I have played both as well, and also Gaelic Football and of course
Hurling.

I'm afraid the only hurling I've done was susequent to drinking. ;-)

There is a saying in Ireland:

Football [Soccer] is a game played by gentlemen, watched by thugs.
Rugby is a game played by thugs, watched by gentlemen!

*chuckle*

American football sucks, and I have no use for it.

Although I enjoyed it when I was younger, since I've been living in
England for the past 11 years, I've grown quite fond of football
(soccer). And I'll even be so bold as to admit to liking cricket.
Watching the Ashes this year was, as normally preposterous as it
sounds, actually nail-biting stuff. Losing the first test, drawing the
second, winning the third by 2 runs and the fourth by 3 wickets and
then praying for rain to hand us the draw in the fifth, which it did.
Australia's Shane Warne taking 40 wickets across the tourney and seeing
England's Kevin Pietersen drop 6 catches over the tournament yet bat
for 158 and taking Man of the Match in the final test. I was quite
lucky to be able to watch the final day at home, as, earlier that day,
I had a meeting at Stamford Bridge (Chelsea Football Club are buying
our payroll product and I will be doing the customisation for them)
that broke up about 12:30, which allowed me to go home for the day, as
it would have taken me too long to get back to work in Witney, Oxon.
So I got to watch most of the final day and all the post-match award
ceremonies. The best bit was hearing Aussie captain Ricky Ponting say
on three occasions that England were just "too good". It's not often
you hear that.

Aussie Rules Footy, RULES! *grin*

Aussie Rules football IS good, isn't it!! I used to be able to watch
it regularly on ESPN back in the States but don't have that option
here.


<PatrickDHarrington@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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=F8=E9=F2=E9=EF =E1=F8=FA=E5=EF=FD/Riain Barton wrote:

*chuckle*

Well if you want to improve American football, get rid of all of that
padding and change the uniforms to Rugby style!


They wouldn't be able to hit any where nearly as hard as they do.
Having played both, I'd say that rugby is rougher and American football
is tougher. If rugby players hit each other at the same speeds and
forces in the same places, there'd be deaths in every other match.
Also, rugby is played by more middle-class and slightly posh blokes
whereas the majority of American football players have the same
mentalities that go with names like Bubba and Rufus rather than the
Lawrences and Martins of the rugby world. Let's face it, they have to
stop every thirty seconds to figure out what to do next unlike the
flowing "think on your feet" rugby. The more you compare the two, it
seems the less they have in common, although, with the pads, the rugby
players stand a better chance of producing watchable American football
than the football players do of playing watchable rugby--but the
concept of a forward pass might be the trickiest thing to learn for the
rugby players to get to grips with.



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: > Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those
uniforms
: > show off their tight asses.
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: Get rid of football? Good heavens, what will these women-haters look
at when
: they are no longer have attractive young women to look at? Those
tight
: football player asses is all most of these losers will ever have.
Maybe a
: few of these guys will hook-up with these players, come out of the
closet,
: and LEAVE WOMEN ALONE!!!
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Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 08:32:25 AM
On 15-Sep-2005, "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

*chuckle*

Well if you want to improve American football, get rid of all of that
padding and change the uniforms to Rugby style!

But have you noticed that American football uniforms stress the
classic shape of men - broad shoulders, big chests & "narrow" hips?
Susan




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: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
: > Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those
uniforms
: > show off their tight asses.
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: Get rid of football? Good heavens, what will these women-haters look
at when
: they are no longer have attractive young women to look at? Those tight
: football player asses is all most of these losers will ever have.
Maybe a
: few of these guys will hook-up with these players, come out of the
closet,
: and LEAVE WOMEN ALONE!!!

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User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 03:26:51 PM
wrote:


On 15-Sep-2005, "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

*chuckle*

Well if you want to improve American football, get rid of all of that
padding and change the uniforms to Rugby style!


But have you noticed that American football uniforms stress the
classic shape of men - broad shoulders, big chests & "narrow" hips?

Alternatively, you could say that they disguise the classic shape of
American football players - big guts and fat asses.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 19 Sep 2005 10:17:13 AM
On 14-Sep-2005, "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those uniforms
show off their tight asses.

Gee, no wonder I've found football to be somewhat boring - I'm looking at
the wrong thing.
No, seriously - this reminds me of an article I read in "Sports
Illustrated".
Granted it was almost 20 years ago at this point, but it put me off the
magazine
forever. It was about indoor soccer, and it showed that Sports Illustrated
was a rag of
the worst sort. Among all the hideous innaccuracies about the sport (which I
like!), was
the insane "factoid" that the players "put oil on their legs to entice the
female fans." I
was going to write a sharp letter to them to the effect that the *grease*
they put on
their legs was to protect them against the *astroturf* on which they were
constantly
sliding. Then I read their letters section. They had one letter ostensibly
from a wife
cancelling her husband's subscription over the swimsuit issue. THE VERY NEXT
letter said "I saw my wife going to the mailbox & I know what she's doing,
DISREGARD THE PREVIOUS LETTER [emphasis mine}." Someone want to tell
me how the writer knew eactly where their letters were going to end up in
the column?
My, how was *that* for an off-topic rant??
Susan
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User: "Ferrous Patella"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 16 Sep 2005 01:10:04 PM
news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net by ריעין ברתון‎/Riain
Barton:

Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those uniforms
show off their tight asses.

Two words: wrestling singlet
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T.A., Philosophy Lab
University of Ediacara
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 16 Sep 2005 01:12:34 PM
"Ferrous Patella" <mail125797@pop.net> wrote in message
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news:9s%Ve.4372$Ve1.216@bignews4.bellsouth.net by ריעין ברתון‎/Riain
Barton:

Let's get rid of football -- it is degrading to men, and those uniforms
show off their tight asses.


Two words: wrestling singlet

Ho ho ho! ;)
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User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 02:49:59 PM
Odd question, since chearleading (and big hair and quite a few other
practices degrading to women) are quite popular in the bible belt.
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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 05:11:44 PM
On 14 Sep 2005 07:33:55 -0700, "words of truth"
<wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following

As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
Bowl,

We're one week into the bloody season!
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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User: "655321"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 14 Sep 2005 07:00:22 PM
Douglas Berry wrote:

On 14 Sep 2005 07:33:55 -0700, "words of truth"
<wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following


As the NFL season moves inexorably toward its climax with the Super
Bowl,



We're one week into the bloody season!

It's an old article that was posted once before on this NG by wordsof
dishonesty... probably toward the end of *last* season.
655321
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User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 10:04:36 AM
On 14 Sep 2005 07:33:55 -0700, "words of truth"
<wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42470

Let's get rid of cheerleading

Shmuley Boteach


Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a nationally syndicated radio host daily from
2-5 p.m. EST on the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and was named by
Talkers magazine as one of America's 100 most important talk-radio
hosts. A best-selling author of 15 books, his latest work is "Hating
Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex"
(ReganBooks-HarperCollins). To learn more about Rabbi Boteach, please
visit his website. www.shmuley.com

Remins me of our cruise up into the Baltic as far up as St. Petersburg
last June from Newcastle.
On the return voyage we stopped for a day in Gothenburg Sweden.
About an hour before sailing a marching style band formed up mostly
of older teenagers, boys and girls, complete with modestly clad
cheerleadeaders (blue uniform tops and white almost knee length
skirts), flag bearers and band
They formed up in marching formation and marched on to the pier
to opposite the gang plank and turned towards the ship. In the hot
sunshine the band played for over an hour whilst the cheerleaders
danced for us and the flag wavers twirled. The band was really good
too, playing a good variety of marches for us. The dancing was not as
elaborate as the stuff they do at football matches, it was quite
simple really, but the whole ships company of men and women, old
and young lined the ships rails and cheered back because they were
so entertaining. I found one brunette girl particularly delightful as
a lovely serene smile never left her face.
When the ships horn was sounded the band struck up Anchors
Aweigh whilst the girls smiled even more and waved to us, we waved
back and applauded for all our worth.
They then re-formed the marching formation and marched alongside
the ship playing as it backed out of the quay, baton twirled, flag
wavers waved, and cheerleaders danced, a really spendid sight.
As they reached the end of the pier they turned and marched off into
the sunset as it wer. What a wonderful send off they gave us and a
wonderful highlight of our trip.
Now how could anybody possibly moan about people giving others so
much pleasure and enjoyment and what immense pride they must have
had from the great appreciation we showed them? That is what life
should be about, giving joy to one another not a miserable obsession
with death and fear, or getting wealthy, or gaining power over the
lives of others.
Fine people the Swedish, with a fine country and way of life.
I guess if I were forced into exile Sweden would be a good
choice particularly as most people speak English (though
out of courtesy I would try to learn their language)
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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User: ""

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 06:02:38 PM
On 15-Sep-2005, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:



Remins me of our cruise up into the Baltic as far up as St. Petersburg
last June from Newcastle.

On the return voyage we stopped for a day in Gothenburg Sweden.

About an hour before sailing a marching style band formed up mostly
of older teenagers, boys and girls, complete with modestly clad
cheerleadeaders (blue uniform tops and white almost knee length
skirts), flag bearers and band

[snip]


Now how could anybody possibly moan about people giving others so
much pleasure and enjoyment and what immense pride they must have
had from the great appreciation we showed them?

No one would, if it were always like this.
You started with "boys AND [emphasis mine] girls" and "modestly clad",
which pretty much is the opposite of what we're discussing.
Susan
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User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 03:30:26 PM
Why not just put all women in burkas?
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Title: Re: Let's Get Rid Of Women-Degrading Practice Of Cheerleading 15 Sep 2005 06:03:41 PM
On 15-Sep-2005, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote:

Why not just put all women in burkas?

Why does it have to one extreme or the other?
Why not teach our children