Religions > Atheism > Letter to the Editor: Evolution as a theory has led young minds astray
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05 Mar 2004 05:49:40 AM |
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Letter to the Editor: Evolution as a theory has led young minds astray |
From the article:
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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Read it at http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
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05 Mar 2004 07:55:11 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in
message news:b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called
what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement
reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in
Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the
state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have
done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has
damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from
animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like
an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully
made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place
highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web
site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am
reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on
the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to
the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating,
magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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Read it at
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
Has anyone come up with a way to test the assertion in her
third paragraph? My own experience as a Department of
Corrections Educator suggests to me that most offenders find
the idea of evolution offensive. That's far from scientific,
of course, and does not take into account non-offenders in any
way.
Marvin
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05 Mar 2004 08:53:14 AM |
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"Marvin" <marvin2@fogstarband.net> wrote in message
news:kK%1c.80$Vb6.25@fe25.usenetserver.com...
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in
message news:b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called
what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement
reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in
Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the
state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have
done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has
damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from
animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like
an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully
made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place
highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web
site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am
reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on
the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to
the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating,
magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
----------------------------------
Read it at
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
Has anyone come up with a way to test the assertion in her
third paragraph? My own experience as a Department of
Corrections Educator suggests to me that most offenders find
the idea of evolution offensive. That's far from scientific,
of course, and does not take into account non-offenders in any
way.
There was a study a while back that showed non-believers to be a very
under-represented group in prisons. The exact interpretation of this data
suggests many things but certainly not that non-believers are more prone to
criminal behavior.
Marvin
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05 Mar 2004 10:53:12 AM |
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Chris Merli <clmerli@insightbb.com> posted
There was a study a while back that showed non-believers to be a very
under-represented group in prisons. The exact interpretation of this data
suggests many things but certainly not that non-believers are more prone to
criminal behavior.
The explanation is almost certainly that non-belief and non-criminality
are strongly correlated with educational achievement. To find a genuine
causal correlation between the first two factors, one would have to
control for the third.
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PeteM
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| User: "Malachi" |
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05 Mar 2004 07:29:40 PM |
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Chris Merli wrote:
There was a study a while back that showed non-believers to be a very
under-represented group in prisons. The exact interpretation of this data
suggests many things but certainly not that non-believers are more prone to
criminal behavior.
I'd be very interested in a solid reference for that, if you could give
one it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Mar 2004 10:58:23 AM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:29:40 +0000 (UTC), Malachi <Malachi@Earth.com>,
Message ID: <Pine.GSO.4.56.0403051709590.19728@shell1> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Chris Merli wrote:
There was a study a while back that showed non-believers to be a very
under-represented group in prisons. The exact interpretation of this data
suggests many things but certainly not that non-believers are more prone to
criminal behavior.
I'd be very interested in a solid reference for that, if you could give
one it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
http://www.bobkwebsite.com/prisoninmaterlgn.html
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Ineedmoney" |
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05 Mar 2004 03:06:08 PM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com...
<snipped *****>
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose,
Truth hurts?? lol
then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age?
Life is what you make it, and you can look at it in a negative way like
Debbie here or you can be positive.
(A most interesting Web site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
....Well it is ..."interesting"....
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
Yet another shmuck that cannot understand Evolution. How difficult is it to
understand? Evolution didnt start with us as a finished result, its random.
A more appropriate analogy would be: Its more like a box full of little
pieces of metal which fall off and onto an electro magnet and the pieces of
metal would stick together. As bad as that analogy was, its still closer to
the facts than Debbie's.
Ed
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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Read it at
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Nullifidian" |
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07 Mar 2004 05:54:27 PM |
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(Jason Spaceman) quoted in
news:b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com:
From the article:
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If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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So if we teach children that they're created from dirt, will they start
treating each other like dirt?
--
Nullifidian, a.a. #1774 (Remove NO SPAM to e-mail me.)
Member of the EAC Scientific Priesthood Division (Biology Dept.)
"If you have seen me cross myself, it was to Science, Art and Nature."
- Bela Bartok
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| User: "allan m" |
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05 Mar 2004 12:20:25 PM |
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(Jason Spaceman) wrote in message news:<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com>...
From the article:
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<snip>
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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That would be the Nothing-To-Do-With-Evolution Theory of Evolution you
think about then, lady.
And whenever I think about creation, I am reminded of the story of the
bloke who just sort of made some stuff out of nothing and then turned
the stuff into living things and everything kinda fitted together
perfectly. Oh yes.
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| User: "lanny budd" |
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05 Mar 2004 12:58:01 PM |
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(Jason Spaceman) wrote in message news:<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com>...
From the article:
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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Read it at http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
And if you are taught that your mythical god condemns nonbelievers to
a hell, then you are free to organize as many autos da fe as you
please.
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| User: "Nico Demusopelous" |
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05 Mar 2004 12:17:39 PM |
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(Jason Spaceman) wrote in message news:<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com>...
From the article: http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
This already reeks of a subtle attempt to poison the well. Does the
author understand what is meant by "theory" and why the theory of
evolution is considered theoretical rather than hypothetical?
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
This is, in a word, absurd. There are plenty of people who accept
evolution as true and continue to behave in a manner that is
considered consistent with general Christian morality. On the flip
side, there are people who deny the theory of evolution and behave
"like an animal" (in the derrogatory sense being used by the author,
which seems to imply behavior that is contrary to general Christian
morality). Thus whether you reject or accept the theory of evolution,
such a decision does not serve as a major antecedent to how you will
behave.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age?
9-11 serves as evidence that this claim is not necessarily true. I do
not doubt for a second the sincerity of the religious convictions held
by the hijackers. I think it is safe to say that they were deeply
conservative individuals who feared God and considered themselves
created by God for a specific purpose, yet their respect for human
life differed strongly from the sort of respect for human life that
Westerners (be they Christian or not) generally have.
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
It seems the author is mistaking evolution with abiogenesis. One can
accept evolution while still believing that ultimately there was a
transcedent personal first cause for everything. Evolution is
hereditary change over time, and hereditary change over time is an
observed fact, which is why young earth creationists try to argue
about silly minutiae, such as the shaky distinction between
microevolution and macroevolution.
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06 Mar 2004 09:09:42 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:17:39 +0000 in episode
<2c68d44e.0403051023.34e28bf1@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
nicodemus-asks@jesusanswers.com (Nico Demusopelous):
Does the
author understand what is meant by "theory"
Of course not.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "" |
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06 Mar 2004 12:07:32 AM |
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There's an excellent selection of current books on Creationism and on
Intelligent design at
http://www.torontochristianbooks.com/CREATION.HTM
I found it very useful!
nicodemus-asks@jesusanswers.com (Nico Demusopelous) wrote in message news:<2c68d44e.0403051023.34e28bf1@posting.google.com>...
jspaceman@linuxquestions.net (Jason Spaceman) wrote in message news:<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com>...
From the article: http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
This already reeks of a subtle attempt to poison the well. Does the
author understand what is meant by "theory" and why the theory of
evolution is considered theoretical rather than hypothetical?
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
This is, in a word, absurd. There are plenty of people who accept
evolution as true and continue to behave in a manner that is
considered consistent with general Christian morality. On the flip
side, there are people who deny the theory of evolution and behave
"like an animal" (in the derrogatory sense being used by the author,
which seems to imply behavior that is contrary to general Christian
morality). Thus whether you reject or accept the theory of evolution,
such a decision does not serve as a major antecedent to how you will
behave.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age?
9-11 serves as evidence that this claim is not necessarily true. I do
not doubt for a second the sincerity of the religious convictions held
by the hijackers. I think it is safe to say that they were deeply
conservative individuals who feared God and considered themselves
created by God for a specific purpose, yet their respect for human
life differed strongly from the sort of respect for human life that
Westerners (be they Christian or not) generally have.
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
It seems the author is mistaking evolution with abiogenesis. One can
accept evolution while still believing that ultimately there was a
transcedent personal first cause for everything. Evolution is
hereditary change over time, and hereditary change over time is an
observed fact, which is why young earth creationists try to argue
about silly minutiae, such as the shaky distinction between
microevolution and macroevolution.
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| User: "Ferrous Patella" |
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| Title: POTM was: Letter to the Editor: Evolution as a theory has led young minds astray |
05 Mar 2004 12:04:02 PM |
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I would like to nominate JS's posts in general (and arbitrarily chose this
one as an example) as representative of what goes on in TO. THE reason I
read TO is to keep up to date on the political battle on the creationist
front. JS's post are very useful for that purpose.
news:b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com by
jspaceman@linuxquestions.net (Jason Spaceman):
From the article:
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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Read it at
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
--
Ferrous Patella
"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war."
--John Adams, letter to Abigail, 1797
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06 Mar 2004 12:13:14 AM |
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Ferrous Patella <mail125797@pop.net> wrote in
news:Xns94A3675043100mail125797popnet@199.45.49.11:
I would like to nominate JS's posts in general (and arbitrarily chose
this one as an example) as representative of what goes on in TO. THE
reason I read TO is to keep up to date on the political battle on the
creationist front. JS's post are very useful for that purpose.
news:b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com by
jspaceman@linuxquestions.net (Jason Spaceman):
[snip creationist letter to the editor]
Would it not be more appropriate to choose one of the replies
to it?
--
Anti-spam: replace "usenet" with "harlequin2"
I am Mike and I approve this message.
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| User: "Cardinal Chunder" |
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07 Mar 2004 05:43:30 AM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught from a young age that animals have no souls and humans
have dominion over them, what value do you put on life?
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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07 Mar 2004 06:13:51 AM |
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Cardinal Chunder wrote in alt.atheism
Jason Spaceman wrote:
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught from a young age that animals have no souls and
humans have dominion over them, what value do you put on life?
Maybe he'd protect a one-day-old fertilized human egg before
protecting a fertilized egg of the last passenger pigeon?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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05 Mar 2004 11:17:26 AM |
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Ms. Brewer (quoted by JSpaceman) expresses the opinion that a person
who understands (believes) evolution will behave like an animal, but a
person who is taught that he is "fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose" will place more value on life (I
assume this is meant to imply they'll behave better also).
Why not have both an understanding of evolution and an acceptance that
God created everything (using evolutionary processes as part of His
plan)? This results in a person who has a far greater appreciation for
the majesty and wonder of the universe that God created, while at the
same time appreciating the special role God created for humans.
As for the clock parts analogy.... While I understand the point Ms.
Brewer is trying to make, this is not an accurate analogy for natural
processes.
-- Jamie Barger
-- a guy who considers himself a rational Christian
jspaceman@linuxquestions.net (Jason Spaceman) wrote in message news:<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com>...
From the article:
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While I agree that the theory of evolution should be called what it
is, a "theory," I must respectfully comment on a statement reported by
The Times as made by former president Carter.
Carter reportedly stated that references to evolution in Georgia's
curriculum have done nothing to damage religion in the state.
Depending on the manner in which it was taught, it may have done
nothing to damage "religion," but it most assuredly has damaged the
impressionable minds of millions of young people.
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? <clipped web site promo - jb>
Whenever I think about the theory of evolution, I am reminded of the
story about the large box of random clock parts that sat on the shelf
for millions of years. The box fell off the shelf, and to the
amazement of everyone, out came a perfectly operating, magnificent
clock.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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Read it at http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20040228/opinion/39717.html
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Mar 2004 07:49:44 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:49:40 +0000 in episode
<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jspaceman@linuxquestions.net (Jason Spaceman) told us:
Debbie W. Brewer crapped out:
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Interesting. To hell with the truth and reality. What's important is
stamping out little copies of citizens who conform to our expectations!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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07 Mar 2004 11:11:46 AM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:49:44 +0000 (UTC), "Mark K. Bilbo"
<y@hoo.com-amikchi>, Message ID:
<pan.2004.03.06.01.55.40.64878@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:49:40 +0000 in episode
<b9401f8a.0403050355.afc40ab@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jspaceman@linuxquestions.net (Jason Spaceman) told us:
Debbie W. Brewer crapped out:
If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
If you are taught that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and
created for a specific purpose, then do you not place highest value on
human life at any stage and any age? (A most interesting Web site on
this subject is answers ingenesis.org).
Interesting. To hell with the truth and reality. What's important is
stamping out little copies of citizens who conform to our expectations!
Worse.
Fundies bleat "this life is unimportant," but that's not "giving little
value to life." Fundies ambush medical personnel and bomb medical
clinics, but that's not "acting like an animal."
"Created for a specific purpose" the above example really (rolls eyes)
"shows the highest value on human life at any stage and any age."
And mindless wonders like Debbie are encouraged to breed and vote.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Jason Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Letter to the Editor: Evolution as a theory has led young minds astray |
07 Mar 2004 03:40:36 PM |
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:49:40 +0000 (UTC),
(Jason Spaceman) wrote:
From the article:
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If you are taught from a young age that you descended from animals,
you tend to give little value to life, and, well, act like an animal.
Debbie W. Brewer
Flowery Branch
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If that is the case then why aren't university biology departments
like war zones? Where are the daily reports of biology students
going on shooting sprees? Why did I never see any fornication or fist
fights in the hallways outside of the biology lab at my university?
Do packs of 'Gouldians' hunt the university grounds for 'Dawkinites'?
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Rick" |
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| Title: Re: Letter to the Editor: Evolution as a theory has led young minds astray |
05 Mar 2004 10:31:01 AM |
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That is not even funny. I can read letters from morons in newspapers
every day. I think newspaper editors love letters from morons because
they get intelligent people steamed up just like trolls on here.
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