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User:	"cvbcvb"
Date:	14 Oct 2005 03:55:29 AM
Object:	LeVey

I didn't know he was dead. Thank God.
Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
like you atheists? Now, I don't mind him being a
***** and calling himself 'satan' and other crap,
that just shows what a coward and ***** he really
was... but I just think the dude wuzz a nutcase.
A REAL nutcase. Something like Manson and other
freeks. The difference Manson told everybody that
he was Jesus and this silly, goatie wearing chickenshit,
claimed to be 'satan'. Beneath it all... both dumb, both
nuts, both dangerous.
Anyway, how old was LeVey when he died? Did he have
any kids? Was he a homo? Did his mommy showed him
enough attention when he was little? Dunno... just thought
I might ask here. At least since you atheists and satanists
both share social darwinism and stuff... I thought you might
have some info. I apologize to any LeVey worshipers out
there, but hey... the dude was an idiot, after all. Not enough
attention when he was little did his mommy show him... so
let's pretend that we are 'evil' and stuff like that. Paaathetic.
Thank you for you cooperation. Muchos gracias!
PS.
LeVey says he is sorry. If that means anything to you...
.

User: "David H."
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 08:21:15 AM

"cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
I think you have a misunderstanding of atheism. You are probably
making your assertions based upon what some preacher told you mingled
with what you ( may of ) read in this LeVey's book.
Atheism is not a doctrine followed by a group of people. It is a
personal, solitary conclusion come to by an individual's own life
experiences and knowledge. Sure, atheists gather together to protest
different things, but mostly we meet socially - if at all - to simply be
around others who have similar feelings towards mankind's stupid
obsession with being eternally poked up the ***** for pissing off some
god.
I am willing to bet that you will find amongst the atheists in this
world individuals who have feelings of Social Darwinism that range from
apathy to the two opposite extremes of pro and con.
Now, with that out of the way, below is a snippet from Wikipedia
regarding Social Darwinism. After reading it, I had the feeling that you
might not have.
David H.
aa #2217
From Wiki':
It should be noted that 'Social Darwinism' is a term used by academics
to describe a style or trend in social theory, rather than a coherent
school of thought with, for instance, a professional association or an
explicit manifesto. The application of the term to 19th and 20th century
modes of thought generally did not occur until after the publication of
American historian Richard Hofstadter's Social Darwinism in American
Thought in 1944, which codified the concept in the sense it is generally
used today. Thus the term is an anachronism, although it is still widely
used by historians. More importantly, Social Darwinism, in its
contemporary forms, remains a very important social theory in the United
States, and in some conservative political movements elsewhere.
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User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 04:13:32 AM

"cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Uh huh. Your point?

Anyway, how old was LeVey when he died? Did he have
any kids? Was he a homo? Did his mommy showed him
enough attention when he was little? Dunno... just thought
I might ask here. At least since you atheists and satanists
both share social darwinism and stuff... I thought you might
have some info. I apologize to any LeVey worshipers out
there, but hey... the dude was an idiot, after all. Not enough
attention when he was little did his mommy show him... so
let's pretend that we are 'evil' and stuff like that. Paaathetic.

Google is your friend. Do your own research.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "sdfsdf"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 07:13:36 AM

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Uh huh. Your point?

I was wondering how come a lunatic LeVey could have
anything in common with this 'goodie goodie' atheism?
Where do these two things 'meet'?

Google is your friend. Do your own research.

Google iz the zentral comitee of Internet... I don't truss it that much.
Do you have any info? Please... I think you ist veuy veuy smart.
Danke...

Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist

Science is good only for rich people, which is 1pct of the population
of the world, and not for the poor people, zie other 99pct of population
of the world. Hence; science has failed. Zo, what's the difference, tell me?
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User: *"NARF"*
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 12:42:40 PM

"sdfsdf" <sdfsdf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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: >
: > "cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:434f7255_3@x-privat.org...
: > >I didn't know he was dead. Thank God.
He's as dead as your god.
: > > Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
: > > like you atheists?
Liked? The way I like the apple tart-thing I'm eating?
: > > Now, I don't mind him being a
: > > *****
You have homosexual yearnings for a dead satanist? You perv!
: > > and calling himself 'satan' and other crap,
: > > that just shows what a coward and ***** he really
: > > was
Cowardice is attacking someone who cannot defend themselves.
Cowardice is worshipping hateful, non-existent gods. Cowardice is
what you would see, if you could only nerve yourself up enough to look
in a mirror.
: > > ... but I just think the dude wuzz a nutcase. A REAL nutcase.
Ah, now we can see where you're going. Anton was a big hero to you,
and you're ***** that he went and died, so you can't poke your
needle ***** into his *****.
: > > Something like Manson and other
: > > freeks. The difference Manson told everybody that
: > > he was Jesus and this silly, goatie wearing chickenshit,
: > > claimed to be 'satan'.
"goatie wearing chickenshit"? You're saying he was a little goat?
And had chickenshit all over him? You're deranged.
: > > Beneath it all... both dumb, both nuts, both dangerous.
: >
: > Uh huh. Your point?
:
: I was wondering how come a lunatic LeVey could have
: anything in common with this 'goodie goodie' atheism?
:
: Where do these two things 'meet'?
At the point on the top of your head, you sick, sad, illiterate,
troll.
: > > Anyway, how old was LeVey when he died? Did he have
: > > any kids? Was he a homo?
What's it to you? Unless you want to dig his moldering ***** up, you're
not going to be buggering him.
: > > Did his mommy showed him
: > > enough attention when he was little? Dunno... just thought
: > > I might ask here.
Don't claim to be thinking, we know better.
: > > At least since you atheists and satanists
: > > both share social darwinism and stuff...
Share? Where did you get that idea?
: > > I thought you might
: > > have some info. I apologize to any LeVey worshipers out
: > > there, but hey... the dude was an idiot, after all.
Nice apology, xian scum. Typical.
: > > Not enough
: > > attention when he was little did his mommy show him... so
: > > let's pretend that we are 'evil' and stuff like that.
Paaathetic.
Yeah, kinda like the way you pretend to be 'good'.
: > Google is your friend. Do your own research.
:
: Google iz the zentral comitee of Internet... I don't truss it that
much.
Paranoid, too.....
: Do you have any info? Please... I think you ist veuy veuy smart.
:
: Danke...
Apfel Str�del! K�nig Ludwig!
I think you're an idiot...I know a laborer, who habitually eats out of
garbage cans (even though he has access to fresh food)....and _he's_
smarter than you are.
: > Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic
Sagerquist
:
: Science is good only for rich people, which is 1pct of the
population
: of the world, and not for the poor people, zie other 99pct of
population
: of the world. Hence; science has failed. Zo, what's the difference,
tell me?
See, all you're doing is proving yourself to be everything we've been
thinking about you. Why don't you explain where you found this last
turd at? I'm sure we'd all be thrilled to no end....
.

User: "ert56"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 03:53:44 PM

"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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My 'god' lives, and that moron is truly dead. Ok, he ain't truly
dead cause his works still deceives people.

: > > Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
: > > like you atheists?

Liked? The way I like the apple tart-thing I'm eating?

Hahahahaha... don't choke dude!

: > > Now, I don't mind him being a
: > > *****

You have homosexual yearnings for a dead satanist? You perv!

Nope. You are the one saying it, not me... sorry.

: > > and calling himself 'satan' and other crap,
: > > that just shows what a coward and ***** he really
: > > was

Cowardice is attacking someone who cannot defend themselves.

That's what you atheists do in this NG. All the time. So tell me,
what's the difference?

Cowardice is worshipping hateful, non-existent gods.

Hateful? God doesn't hate you. YOU hate god. It is pretty
obvious.
Cowardice is

what you would see, if you could only nerve yourself up enough to look
in a mirror.

I am looking myself in the mirror, unlike you. You are still on the bottom
of the 'pyramide', still hating God and other nonsense.

: > > ... but I just think the dude wuzz a nutcase. A REAL nutcase.

Ah, now we can see where you're going. Anton was a big hero to you,
and you're ***** that he went and died, so you can't poke your
needle ***** into his *****.

Nope. Sorry. You getting abused my friend...

: > > Something like Manson and other
: > > freeks. The difference Manson told everybody that
: > > he was Jesus and this silly, goatie wearing chickenshit,
: > > claimed to be 'satan'.

"goatie wearing chickenshit"? You're saying he was a little goat?
And had chickenshit all over him? You're deranged.

You know what I'm talking about, don't front.

: > > Beneath it all... both dumb, both nuts, both dangerous.
: >
: > Uh huh. Your point?
:
: I was wondering how come a lunatic LeVey could have
: anything in common with this 'goodie goodie' atheism?
:
: Where do these two things 'meet'?

At the point on the top of your head, you sick, sad, illiterate,
troll.

Nope. Don't pretend maaaan...

: > > Anyway, how old was LeVey when he died? Did he have
: > > any kids? Was he a homo?

What's it to you? Unless you want to dig his moldering ***** up, you're
not going to be buggering him.

I am just asking. And it seems that is pissing you off... I wonder why!

: > > Did his mommy showed him
: > > enough attention when he was little? Dunno... just thought
: > > I might ask here.

Don't claim to be thinking, we know better.

Yeah, I see how you know better... I am aware that you actually DO
know how to be a hypocrite, better than me. I can see that.

: > > At least since you atheists and satanists
: > > both share social darwinism and stuff...

Share? Where did you get that idea?

Oh, come on...

: > > I thought you might
: > > have some info. I apologize to any LeVey worshipers out
: > > there, but hey... the dude was an idiot, after all.

Nice apology, xian scum. Typical.

And typical of you, atheist... hate ridden individual.

: > > Not enough
: > > attention when he was little did his mommy show him... so
: > > let's pretend that we are 'evil' and stuff like that.
Paaathetic.

Yeah, kinda like the way you pretend to be 'good'.

I am good. And you know it.

: > Google is your friend. Do your own research.
:
: Google iz the zentral comitee of Internet... I don't truss it that
much.

Paranoid, too.....

Oh so I see... what is worse, thinking you are paranoid, or knowing
that you really should be?

: Do you have any info? Please... I think you ist veuy veuy smart.
:
: Danke...

Apfel Str�del! K�nig Ludwig!

I think you're an idiot...I know a laborer, who habitually eats out of
garbage cans (even though he has access to fresh food)....and _he's_
smarter than you are.

Yes, I know you like poor people, homeless people... THEY keep YOU
in check, foo!

: > Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic
Sagerquist
:
: Science is good only for rich people, which is 1pct of the
population
: of the world, and not for the poor people, zie other 99pct of
population
: of the world. Hence; science has failed. Zo, what's the difference,
tell me?

See, all you're doing is proving yourself to be everything we've been
thinking about you. Why don't you explain where you found this last
turd at? I'm sure we'd all be thrilled to no end....

Thinking? You are full of prejudices, no room for reason, at all... my dear
atheist. Too bad you're too dumb to see that. Sorry...
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 08:12:25 AM

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snip

Google is your friend. Do your own research.

Google iz the zentral comitee of Internet... I don't truss it that much.

Do you have any info? Please... I think you ist veuy veuy smart.

Uh huh. No, I don't have any info. Try Yahoo.

Danke...

Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic

Sagerquist

me?
What the ***** are you babbling about? Science has never helped poor people?
*****.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "ert56"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 03:47:50 PM

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Do you have any info? Please... I think you ist veuy veuy smart.

Uh huh. No, I don't have any info. Try Yahoo.

Oh...

Danke...

Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic

Sagerquist

me?

What the ***** are you babbling about? Science has never helped poor people?
*****.

Yup. Who pays for the science? And who benefits from science?
Poro people surely are not the ones benefiting from science. At
least not in the amount 'scientists' say they do... sorry.
Getting payed by the rich. Discovering for the rich. If poor people
do get a chance to benefit from science... it is propaganda.
Sorry, that is the system. Those are the rules. At least, you as an
atheist and the one 'that lives in the real world', should know that.
But instead, you're just pretending... don't worry. Sign of our times.
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 04:14:33 PM

"ert56" <456yre@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Getting payed by the rich. Discovering for the rich. If poor people
do get a chance to benefit from science... it is propaganda.

Sorry, that is the system. Those are the rules. At least, you as an
atheist and the one 'that lives in the real world', should know that.

Whatever, troll.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "ert56"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 05:28:54 PM

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snip

Whatever, troll.

Yeah, shift the attention from what's been said... you are good
at it dude...
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 07:05:16 PM

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snip

Whatever, troll.

Yeah, shift the attention from what's been said... you are good
at it dude...

Dude? Hardly, you douchebag. PLONK
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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User: "demagogala"
Title: Re: LeVey	15 Oct 2005 03:12:38 AM

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snip

Whatever, troll.

Yeah, shift the attention from what's been said... you are good
at it dude...

Dude? Hardly, you douchebag. PLONK

Yes, yes, I knew you were a chick. NP, honey, just relax.
.

User: "Douglas Berry"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 08:49:40 PM

What's so funny about peace, love and "ert56" <456yre@gmail.com>
posting the following on Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:47:50 +0200 iin
alt.atheism?

Yup. Who pays for the science? And who benefits from science?
Poro people surely are not the ones benefiting from science. At
least not in the amount 'scientists' say they do... sorry.

Bollocks. Met anyone with smallpox recently? How about polio? Two
diseases that devastated poor communitie4s until science eliminated
them..
Are you saying the poor don't benefit from lowered food prices made
possible by advances in meterology, satelitte weather tracking, and
hybrid grains with more nutritional value?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "demagogala"
Title: Re: LeVey	15 Oct 2005 03:22:39 AM

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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What's so funny about peace, love and "ert56" <456yre@gmail.com>
posting the following on Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:47:50 +0200 iin
alt.atheism?

Yup. Who pays for the science? And who benefits from science?
Poro people surely are not the ones benefiting from science. At
least not in the amount 'scientists' say they do... sorry.

Bollocks. Met anyone with smallpox recently? How about polio? Two
diseases that devastated poor communitie4s until science eliminated
them..

Yes, instead of 200 million dead, we have 150 million dead. Yes,
such a noble cause. Yes, sie scientists are so damn good, and honest,
helping and caring... yes... sie science is here to help the poor people.
Yes... too bad science costs MONEY! And where do sie scientists
GET the money? Taxes? Don't make me laugh!

Are you saying the poor don't benefit from lowered food prices made
possible by advances in meterology, satelitte weather tracking, and
hybrid grains with more nutritional value?

Yes they do. BUT... that all is just sie propaganda for the rich. You know.
Money can buy a lot of things, but love and respect and forgiveness, not.
Zo, what do the rich do? They 'help' the poor. Just to make themselves
look good. It's a well known fact. Too bad only few of us, ordinary people,
see that and accept that. There are not many essentially good rich people.
Few... to be precise.
I call all of it plain vanilla hypocrisy! If they really wanted to help, YOU and
ME would see it. There wouldn't be any poverty in the first place. But hey...
THAT will never happen. WHY? Poor people keep sheople in check. Just
when you go home from yer work, and you see a homeless dude... you don't
want to be homeless, do ya? See? THAT keeps you in check! Follow sie
orders, don't ask to many questions, and you'll be fine... control dude, control!
Just like wars... there will always be wars, cause that keeps idiots in check.
And yes... God forbid that someone could really, theoretically speaking of course,
walk on water... yes yes... sie system and his minions have thought about that
too.
As I said... this system of ours would make Adolf proud...
But hey, sie atheists don't have any problem with that kind of control, cause
if you did, you'd have to make a change. But will you? Do you? NOPE!
Why? Cause you live in sie 'real world'. Where you'll get a bullet in yer
head if you don't... follow... 'sie'... orders. And who will ultimately MAKE
any changes? Poor people. NOT rich people from the west. POOR people
ALWAYS make the change.
So as you are human beings after all, where do you practice your 'authority'?
Among theists. And why shouldn't you? This 'God' thing is invisible. It doesn't
exist. And the only reason it 'doesn't exist' it's because it is invisible.
Very good beliefs man... very strong... scientifically backed up I suppose.
Stay in check, sheople!
.

User: "Douglas Berry"
Title: Re: LeVey	15 Oct 2005 07:42:17 AM

What's so funny about peace, love and "demagogala"
<demagogala@gmail.com> posting the following on Sat, 15 Oct 2005
10:22:39 +0200 iin alt.atheism?

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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Bollocks. Met anyone with smallpox recently? How about polio? Two
diseases that devastated poor communities until science eliminated
them..

Where do you get those figures? You do realize that most cancers are
treatable today, and that we are beginning so see therapies for things
like Alzheimers on the horizon.
Research centers get funding from many different sources. Some money
comes in the form of government grants, some comes from corporations
interested in the commercial potential of the research, and some is
funded by private foundations.

Are you saying the poor don't benefit from lowered food prices made
possible by advances in meterology, satelitte weather tracking, and
hybrid grains with more nutritional value?

Sir, I'm a truck driver. Only recently did my income level rise above
the federal poverty level. And yet I don't seem to have this bizarre
hatred of anyone with more money than me that you show.
"It's a well known fact"? Sorry, but facts can be proven, and you are
talking about intentions. I'm sure some people do make donations to
look good, and others fund worthy causes out of the belief that it is
the right thing to do.

I call all of it plain vanilla hypocrisy! If they really wanted to help, YOU and
ME would see it. There wouldn't be any poverty in the first place. But hey...
THAT will never happen. WHY? Poor people keep sheople in check. Just
when you go home from yer work, and you see a homeless dude... you don't
want to be homeless, do ya? See? THAT keeps you in check! Follow sie
orders, don't ask to many questions, and you'll be fine... control dude, control!

I've been homeless. So shut the ***** up.
Are you suggesting that we confiscate the money of anyone you feel is
rich and pass it out? Sorry, but no. Welfare states never work.

Just like wars... there will always be wars, cause that keeps idiots in check.
And yes... God forbid that someone could really, theoretically speaking of course,
walk on water... yes yes... sie system and his minions have thought about that
too.

Rant, rant, rant.

As I said... this system of ours would make Adolf proud...

No, since we have open elections, freedoms of speech and religion, and
multiple parties. You don't know much about the policies of Adolf
Hitler either, I see.

But hey, sie atheists don't have any problem with that kind of control, cause
if you did, you'd have to make a change. But will you? Do you? NOPE!
Why? Cause you live in sie 'real world'. Where you'll get a bullet in yer
head if you don't... follow... 'sie'... orders. And who will ultimately MAKE
any changes? Poor people. NOT rich people from the west. POOR people
ALWAYS make the change.

Amazing. So, who exactly is giving me orders and will kill me if I
fail to follow them, since I've not received a single order recently
from anyone other than my employers, and they don't have the ability
to kill me.

So as you are human beings after all, where do you practice your 'authority'?
Among theists. And why shouldn't you? This 'God' thing is invisible. It doesn't
exist. And the only reason it 'doesn't exist' it's because it is invisible.

Very good beliefs man... very strong... scientifically backed up I suppose.

If there is a coherent argument there, I missed it.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "demagogala"
Title: Re: LeVey	15 Oct 2005 02:03:04 PM

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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What's so funny about peace, love and "demagogala"
<demagogala@gmail.com> posting the following on Sat, 15 Oct 2005
10:22:39 +0200 iin alt.atheism?

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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Bollocks. Met anyone with smallpox recently? How about polio? Two
diseases that devastated poor communities until science eliminated
them..

Where do you get those figures? You do realize that most cancers are
treatable today, and that we are beginning so see therapies for things
like Alzheimers on the horizon.

Yes, I am aware of that. But are you aware of the fact science is in hands
of few rich people? If it is not today, tomorrow it will be. Private owners.
Capitalism. It just a question of time when they will privatize science and
healthcare. So? What do poor people get? What are they options? FOLLOW
SIE ORDERS, or die from diseases! Simple. If you follow sie orders, you
will have money, you will be able to afford healthcare.

Research centers get funding from many different sources. Some money
comes in the form of government grants, some comes from corporations
interested in the commercial potential of the research, and some is
funded by private foundations.

Yes, man, I get all wet when hear those magic words; private foundations!
The second I hear those words I think of money laundering and tax cuts.
Tax benefits. Call me crazy... yes... I MUST be wrong! Sure...

Are you saying the poor don't benefit from lowered food prices made
possible by advances in meterology, satelitte weather tracking, and
hybrid grains with more nutritional value?

Sir, I'm a truck driver. Only recently did my income level rise above
the federal poverty level. And yet I don't seem to have this bizarre
hatred of anyone with more money than me that you show.

Why? Cause you hope one day you will have more money too. It's
a pretty simple theory, that has been put to practice over the centuries.
Rich people may be evil, but they are not dumb. :)

"It's a well known fact"? Sorry, but facts can be proven, and you are
talking about intentions. I'm sure some people do make donations to
look good, and others fund worthy causes out of the belief that it is
the right thing to do.

Yes, of course. I agree. There ARE people who have good intentions.
But I say; f*ck good intentions while other people are dying. There must
be some kind of 'cut', and change must happen... and I am not talking about
'fag' changes like; let's elect another president, or government. I hope
you understand what I meant to say...

I've been homeless. So shut the ***** up.

Yes. You did your duty for the community. You were doing a very important job
for the community. YOU were keeping all those working sheople in CHECK!
Rich people are thankful for your sacrifice...

Are you suggesting that we confiscate the money of anyone you feel is
rich and pass it out? Sorry, but no. Welfare states never work.

Yes, sie non welfare amerikkkan! Sure... look at Sweden dude, then call me back.
HEALTHCARE is free. Look at Holland; you get a place to live, welfare check,
AND free marijuana! WHY? Don't do stupid *****. You are a heroin addict? You'll
get heroin, the needle and the lemon. There are people who 'run the country',
nothing will ever change, here... you can have what you want,. You'll get a place
to live, some pocket money... and shut the fu*k up! Don't go killing old ladies
just so you could have money for your next fix. VERY advanced thinking. BUT,
beneath it all, after you satisfy basic human needs... most people are satisfied,
they do not complain, and things never change. They are not thinking to change
the system. 'Both sides' win. Ok, rich people win a tad MORE! Haha...
But hey, all those people from Sweden must be very dumb to have free healthcare!
Yes, my dear american... they must be communists! Sure... dumb people from Sweden!
Sure, have it the 'amerikkkan way'; you don't pay, you don't get to stay... healthy!
I catch your drift James... welfare states are BAD! Yes, yes... let's have health
only for the rich people. And yes, sheople... who stay in line, sway with the flock,
don't think, don't change things... and follow sie orders.
Yes... dumb people from Sweden! WHAT are they thinking!!!! They must
be a bunch of communists! Yeah...

Rant, rant, rant.

Oh, god forbid that awful thing called 'rant'! Yes man, I am only jelaous.
And envy. Cause rich people 'drink champagne, while I drink the water
from a bad drain'. Yes... sure...

As I said... this system of ours would make Adolf proud...

No, since we have open elections, freedoms of speech and religion, and
multiple parties. You don't know much about the policies of Adolf
Hitler either, I see.

Yes I do. And lemme tell you... there are far more things similar with
nazism in this system, then there aren't. Of course... since you aren't,
obviously, that smart, you think in this way;
THIS is 'freedom', 'free' elections, NO camps for gypsies, jews and blacks,
no swastika, no Adolf. DAMN, James... no WAY that this system could
EVER have ANYTHING in common with nazism.
After all... this is 'freedom', and you are a 'free man'. Don't make me laugh!
But seriously... I might even puke.

That's the beauty of it. :) There are no officers telling you what to do, but
still you do exactly what they want you to; stay in the flock, sway with the
flock, follow sie orders, DON'T THINK! See? Oh man, this system is a
work of a genius, I tell you that! :)
And of course... let's have some homeless people, preferably black or hispanic,
throw in couple of white homeless people, let's have some drug addicts, let's
have some prostitutes... let's have some terrorists. WOW! This way we can
scare the living ***** out of sheople... anytime we feel like it. Look at the sheople;
my God are they dumb!
Yes... that's called 'freedom' in democracy! Long live democracy! There
cannot be ANYTHING better than democracy! And yes, don't forget
liberalism! Oh wow, look at the sheople going NUTS about liberalism!
WOW! Let's promise them 'freedom' and 'freedom of choice'! Look at
the dumb sheople going nuts about 'freedom'. Damn, are they dumb!
Hehe... it don't matter. We'll get rich anyhow, anywhere, anyway...

If there is a coherent argument there, I missed it.

Errm... I replied to myself? I doubt it maaan... wait a minute! Mmmm... yes!
Yes, as I said... there is no God, cause it is invisible. Yall say 'give me physical
evidence of God'. Since God is invisible ergo God doesn't exist. And yes... God
is here to fulfill our wishes and to fix our mistakes... yes, yes...
.

User: "Douglas Berry"
Title: Re: LeVey	15 Oct 2005 05:13:28 PM

What's so funny about peace, love and "demagogala"
<demagogala@gmail.com> posting the following on Sat, 15 Oct 2005
21:03:04 +0200 iin alt.atheism?

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:aot1l15cnp06c46laahslmavttj5s9e1a8@4ax.com...

Where do you get those figures? You do realize that most cancers are
treatable today, and that we are beginning so see therapies for things
like Alzheimers on the horizon.

You are a really amazing loon. Research is routinely published in
publically available magazines and databases. Subscribe to NASA's
Tech Briefs for some amazing looks at what's coming into the market
soon.
What orders? Name some. When I got cancer I had my choice of being
treated by the VA Hospital or taking advantage of the insurance I had
through my job.
Even without that coverage, I could have gone to my county hospital
and gotten crisis care, and gone on MediCal.

Yes, you must be.

Sir, I'm a truck driver. Only recently did my income level rise above
the federal poverty level. And yet I don't seem to have this bizarre
hatred of anyone with more money than me that you show.

Why? Cause you hope one day you will have more money too. It's
a pretty simple theory, that has been put to practice over the centuries.
Rich people may be evil, but they are not dumb. :)

Not really. I'm pretty happy being middle class.

Since you seem to be incapable of expressing yourself clearl; no I
don't get what you mean. Try simple delcarative sentences in plain
English for once.

I've been homeless. So shut the ***** up.

Yes. You did your duty for the community. You were doing a very important job
for the community. YOU were keeping all those working sheople in CHECK!

Realy? When was that?

Rich people are thankful for your sacrifice...

My VA benefits are very nice, and I get thanked for my service a great
deal.

Are you suggesting that we confiscate the money of anyone you feel is
rich and pass it out? Sorry, but no. Welfare states never work.

Look at Sweden's population and demographics. They can manage it
because of a small, homogenous population and an econoimy that is
pretty moribund.
Holland isn't a good example, since it currently is going broke.
Sorry, but I prefer to work for what I have. More pride in it.

But hey, all those people from Sweden must be very dumb to have free healthcare!
Yes, my dear american... they must be communists! Sure... dumb people from Sweden!

And Sweden's GNP is what? Population? P{er Capita Income? Tax rate?

Sure, have it the 'amerikkkan way'; you don't pay, you don't get to stay... healthy!

TANSTAAFL.

I catch your drift James... welfare states are BAD! Yes, yes... let's have health
only for the rich people. And yes, sheople... who stay in line, sway with the flock,
don't think, don't change things... and follow sie orders.

I'm not rich and I have health care.

No, since we have open elections, freedoms of speech and religion, and
multiple parties. You don't know much about the policies of Adolf
Hitler either, I see.

Yes I do. And lemme tell you... there are far more things similar with
nazism in this system, then there aren't. Of course... since you aren't,
obviously, that smart, you think in this way;

THIS is 'freedom', 'free' elections, NO camps for gypsies, jews and blacks,
no swastika, no Adolf. DAMN, James... no WAY that this system could
EVER have ANYTHING in common with nazism.

You are making less and less sense.

After all... this is 'freedom', and you are a 'free man'. Don't make me laugh!
But seriously... I might even puke.

I am free. I am free to speak my mind, move where I will, and work at
whatever job will have me. If I like, I am free to starve or feast.

My dear sir, I am so far outside the flock, it's funny. I'm a fucking
biker.

And of course... let's have some homeless people, preferably black or hispanic,
throw in couple of white homeless people, let's have some drug addicts, let's
have some prostitutes... let's have some terrorists. WOW! This way we can
scare the living ***** out of sheople... anytime we feel like it. Look at the sheople;
my God are they dumb!

You are a complete loon.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "rodney"
Title: Re: LeVey	15 Oct 2005 09:34:23 PM

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:rvu2l19296ul64deo94doo7k0ascacd75r@4ax.com...

What's so funny about peace, love and "demagogala"
<demagogala@gmail.com> posting the following on Sat, 15 Oct 2005
21:03:04 +0200 iin alt.atheism?

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:aot1l15cnp06c46laahslmavttj5s9e1a8@4ax.com...

Where do you get those figures? You do realize that most cancers are
treatable today, and that we are beginning so see therapies for things
like Alzheimers on the horizon.

No I am not. If anyone is 'a loon' it is you. If you believe what you can
read in those 'magazines and databases', and you do not question any
of it, and you don't have one ounce of doubt... sorry dude, you are the
one who is 'crazy'. Ooops, naive.

What orders? Name some. When I got cancer I had my choice of being
treated by the VA Hospital or taking advantage of the insurance I had
through my job.

Yes, see? You wnat zom orders? Check this ***** out maaan. I got this
from a dude named Douglas Berry on alt.atheism! Here it goes:
"insurance I had through my job."
See? You don't? Oh damn... how old are you? Prolly too old. Haha...

Even without that coverage, I could have gone to my county hospital
and gotten crisis care, and gone on MediCal.

Yes, I am not from ameriKKKa, so I really don't know what MediCal
actually is, but I am pretty sure it's some private founding healthcare.
You know... managers doing their job. Making sure hospital makes
MONEY. Not makin people better. Especially poor people.

Yes, you must be.

Haha... like I didn't know you were gonna say that! Sucka!

Sir, I'm a truck driver. Only recently did my income level rise above
the federal poverty level. And yet I don't seem to have this bizarre
hatred of anyone with more money than me that you show.

Why? Cause you hope one day you will have more money too. It's
a pretty simple theory, that has been put to practice over the centuries.
Rich people may be evil, but they are not dumb. :)

Not really. I'm pretty happy being middle class.

Yes, yes... indeed you are. GOOD for you maaan! Be sheople. Don't
ask questions. Sway with the flock. Don't rock the boat. But I am also
pretty sure that even you, a happy middle class sheep are aware that
sie 'boat' is sinking. And it's sinking fast... at least, I know you are not
retarded or mentally challanged.

Since you seem to be incapable of expressing yourself clearl; no I
don't get what you mean. Try simple delcarative sentences in plain
English for once.

You do not understand? Oh come on... wtf? Which part don't you understand?
I said; fu*k good intentions while people are dying. And maybe you didn't get
this one; nothing will be better if you elect a new government. Same ***** all over
again. Or maybe this one got your brains melting; a change must happen, and that
change must be a radical one. For better. With a sense of compassion for the
others, namely... poor people. You know, they ARE poor, but they are still
human beings! But of course; what is a poor man to do than to die in a war,
protecting yer middle class *****. :)
Ja, ja, sie zyztem iz veuy veuy beautiful! Like clockwork. Orange, if I might add.

I've been homeless. So shut the ***** up.

Yes. You did your duty for the community. You were doing a very important job
for the community. YOU were keeping all those working sheople in CHECK!

Realy? When was that?

While you were being homeless.

Rich people are thankful for your sacrifice...

My VA benefits are very nice, and I get thanked for my service a great
deal.

Oh, you were a zoldier? Protekting freedom? Democracy? Oh, how nice.

Are you suggesting that we confiscate the money of anyone you feel is
rich and pass it out? Sorry, but no. Welfare states never work.

Look at Sweden's population and demographics. They can manage it
because of a small, homogenous population and an econoimy that is
pretty moribund.

No man, it's because they are communists. Come on, say it. Hahahaha...

Holland isn't a good example, since it currently is going broke.

Broke? Hm... all them hebrews, and they are broke? I kinda doubt
that. But hey, it may be that all those 'developed' countries have
more problems than anyone would admit. THAT may be too.

Sorry, but I prefer to work for what I have. More pride in it.

Yes, zie good ol' male pride! Yes, chicks dig that *****! Hahaha...

But hey, all those people from Sweden must be very dumb to have free healthcare!
Yes, my dear american... they must be communists! Sure... dumb people from Sweden!

And Sweden's GNP is what? Population? P{er Capita Income? Tax rate?

GNP? Sorry, I don't bother myself with that economy crap. Economy is a 'science'
to make rich richer, and poor poorer. So I don't waste my time reading that crap.

Sure, have it the 'amerikkkan way'; you don't pay, you don't get to stay... healthy!

TANSTAAFL.

WOW! You blew me away! All I can say is;
YYAGAN!

I'm not rich and I have health care.

Yes, you do. Why? You have been a good boy, haven't you? Like I said;
follow sie orders, and you'll get yer piece of pie.

No, since we have open elections, freedoms of speech and religion, and
multiple parties. You don't know much about the policies of Adolf
Hitler either, I see.

Yes I do. And lemme tell you... there are far more things similar with
nazism in this system, then there aren't. Of course... since you aren't,
obviously, that smart, you think in this way;

THIS is 'freedom', 'free' elections, NO camps for gypsies, jews and blacks,
no swastika, no Adolf. DAMN, James... no WAY that this system could
EVER have ANYTHING in common with nazism.

You are making less and less sense.

Sense? WOW! Coming from a man that says free healthcare is crap!
Maaaan... you must be veuy veuy smart.

After all... this is 'freedom', and you are a 'free man'. Don't make me laugh!
But seriously... I might even puke.

I am free. I am free to speak my mind, move where I will, and work at
whatever job will have me. If I like, I am free to starve or feast.

Yes, you indeed ARE 'free'. Free from being smart, that's what I say.
Free from having an open mind. Yes, from those things you indeed ARE
'free'. Douglas, YOU are 'free' to do as they tell you to do. That's the
ONLY freedom you really have. But hey, you are not dumb, you prolly
know it. But you know, 'truth hurts'. And it is always better to 'make
war not love'. Ja, ja, natuerlich herr Berry!

My dear sir, I am so far outside the flock, it's funny. I'm a fucking
biker.

Now... wait a minute! Oh, freedom of sie asphalt road! Ja, ja... 'you want
to be free to do... to do what you wnat to do'. Yes, nice 'saddle' dude.
Genuine leather? WOW! Cool...
"Big wheel keep on turning, proud Mary keep on burning... rolling... rolling...'
Haha...

You are a complete loon.

Douglas, I know truth hurts. So I am gonna cut you some slack this time.
.

User: "Douglas Berry"
Title: Re: LeVey	16 Oct 2005 09:40:50 AM

What's so funny about peace, love and "rodney" <rodney@gmail.com>
posting the following on Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:34:23 +0200 iin
alt.atheism?

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:rvu2l19296ul64deo94doo7k0ascacd75r@4ax.com...

Actually I'm quite the skeptic. However, when it comes to peer
reviewed journals amd engineering publications I'm inclined to accept
the results given.

What orders? Name some. When I got cancer I had my choice of being
treated by the VA Hospital or taking advantage of the insurance I had
through my job.

Yes, see? You wnat zom orders? Check this ***** out maaan. I got this
from a dude named Douglas Berry on alt.atheism! Here it goes:

"insurance I had through my job."

See? You don't? Oh damn... how old are you? Prolly too old. Haha...

39 is too old? Yes, I have a job. One I love, and one the provides
me with low cost health care.

Even without that coverage, I could have gone to my county hospital
and gotten crisis care, and gone on MediCal.

I'm pretty surte you're wrong. MediCal is the state of California's
version of Medicare, the safety net for people who don't have any
other options.
http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/

Not really. I'm pretty happy being middle class.

Son, I'm an active person. I do ask questions, riock the boat, and
demand accountability from my elected leaders. However, when it comes
to money, I'm perfectly happy being middle calss. I'm not really into
material things for their own sake. As long as my bike runs and I
have food and shelter, I'm happy.

Since you seem to be incapable of expressing yourself cleary; no I
don't get what you mean. Try simple delcarative sentences in plain
English for once.

I've fought in a couple of wars, remember?
So you advocate revolution? What, exactly, would you replace the
current government with?

Ja, ja, sie zyztem iz veuy veuy beautiful! Like clockwork. Orange, if I might add.

Haven't read the book, I see.

Yes. You did your duty for the community. You were doing a very important job
for the community. YOU were keeping all those working sheople in CHECK!

Realy? When was that?

While you were being homeless.

ROTFLMAO! Kid, while I was homeless I was working my ***** off to get
off the streets!

My VA benefits are very nice, and I get thanked for my service a great
deal.

Oh, you were a zoldier? Protekting freedom? Democracy? Oh, how nice.

Can you please make an attempt to use English correctly?

Look at Sweden's population and demographics. They can manage it
because of a small, homogenous population and an econoimy that is
pretty moribund.

No man, it's because they are communists. Come on, say it. Hahahaha...

Social Democrats, I think. Communism is pretty much dead.

Sorry, but I prefer to work for what I have. More pride in it.

Yes, zie good ol' male pride! Yes, chicks dig that *****! Hahaha...

Well, my wife doesn't complain. She works for what she has too. It's
human pride.

And Sweden's GNP is what? Population? P{er Capita Income? Tax rate?

GNP? Sorry, I don't bother myself with that economy crap. Economy is a 'science'
to make rich richer, and poor poorer. So I don't waste my time reading that crap.

So you admit that you have no clue about what you are ranting about.

I'm not rich and I have health care.

Yes, you do. Why? You have been a good boy, haven't you? Like I said;
follow sie orders, and you'll get yer piece of pie.

Yes, I do my job. I happen to enjoy drving, and meeting new people.
What do you do fo0r a living?

You are making less and less sense.

Sense? WOW! Coming from a man that says free healthcare is crap!
Maaaan... you must be veuy veuy smart.

It's never free. someone has to pay somewhere. I'd rather have lower
taxes overall and pay for my insurance.

I am free. I am free to speak my mind, move where I will, and work at
whatever job will have me. If I like, I am free to starve or feast.

Sad little man.. I've been protesting the invasion of Iraq since the
build up began. I've even taken time off form my job to attend
rallies and marches.. and I've told my bosses why I needed the time
off!
See, you have no idea what life is really like.

My dear sir, I am so far outside the flock, it's funny. I'm a fucking
biker.

Now... wait a minute! Oh, freedom of sie asphalt road! Ja, ja... 'you want
to be free to do... to do what you wnat to do'. Yes, nice 'saddle' dude.
Genuine leather? WOW! Cool...

"Big wheel keep on turning, proud Mary keep on burning... rolling... rolling...'

That song is about a paddle-wheel steamer on the Mississippi. A
better song would be this one:
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/judaspriest/pointofentry.html#1
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "raven1"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 07:46:54 AM

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:55:29 +0200, "cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com>
wrote:

Now, I don't mind him being a
***** and calling himself 'satan' and other crap,
that just shows what a coward and ***** he really
was...

....says the guy calling himself "cvbcvb"...
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 08:24:21 AM

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:55:29 +0200, "cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com>
wrote:
Which of the regular loonies is this latest in-your-face lying idiot?

I didn't know he was dead. Thank God.

Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
like you atheists? Now, I don't mind him being a
***** and calling himself 'satan' and other crap,
that just shows what a coward and ***** he really
was... but I just think the dude wuzz a nutcase.
A REAL nutcase. Something like Manson and other
freeks. The difference Manson told everybody that
he was Jesus and this silly, goatie wearing chickenshit,
claimed to be 'satan'. Beneath it all... both dumb, both
nuts, both dangerous.

Anyway, how old was LeVey when he died? Did he have
any kids? Was he a homo? Did his mommy showed him
enough attention when he was little? Dunno... just thought
I might ask here. At least since you atheists and satanists
both share social darwinism and stuff... I thought you might
have some info. I apologize to any LeVey worshipers out
there, but hey... the dude was an idiot, after all. Not enough
attention when he was little did his mommy show him... so
let's pretend that we are 'evil' and stuff like that. Paaathetic.

Thank you for you cooperation. Muchos gracias!

PS.
LeVey says he is sorry. If that means anything to you...

User: "ert56"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 03:45:35 PM

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:6bcvk11ine83m3tvbancio9kq4cv3ijp16@4ax.com...

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:55:29 +0200, "cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com>
wrote:

Which of the regular loonies is this latest in-your-face lying idiot?

You dad lied to you, that's the only prob in yer life...
.

User: "Uncle Vic"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 09:42:32 AM

on 14 Oct 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A. Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:

Which of the regular loonies is this latest in-your-face lying idiot?

Looks like the Privat-troll again.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Today's warm fuzzy example of Christian Love:
"1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he (JUDAH)drave out the
inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants
of the valley, because they had chariots of iron. IT WAS JUDAH YOU
DUMBFUCK.
Go back to masturbating to porn sites, you goddammned idiot."
-- Mikal 606
.

User: "Dubh Ghall"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 05:22:58 AM

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:55:29 +0200, "cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
like you atheists?

Social Darwinism, was the invention of the xtian protestant churches, and
wealthy middle class employers.
.

User: "Soul food"
Title: PING: MICHAEL ALTARRIBA	14 Oct 2005 01:46:47 PM

Reason with this:
Into alt.atheism shot "cvbcvb" <cvbcvbf@gmail.com> and breathlessly
exclaimed:

I didn't know he was dead. Thank God.

Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
like you atheists? Now, I don't mind him being a
***** and calling himself 'satan' and other crap,
that just shows what a coward and ***** he really
was... but I just think the dude wuzz a nutcase.
A REAL nutcase. Something like Manson and other
freeks. The difference Manson told everybody that
he was Jesus and this silly, goatie wearing chickenshit,
claimed to be 'satan'. Beneath it all... both dumb, both
nuts, both dangerous.

Anyway, how old was LeVey when he died? Did he have
any kids? Was he a homo? Did his mommy showed him
enough attention when he was little? Dunno... just thought
I might ask here. At least since you atheists and satanists
both share social darwinism and stuff... I thought you might
have some info. I apologize to any LeVey worshipers out
there, but hey... the dude was an idiot, after all. Not enough
attention when he was little did his mommy show him... so
let's pretend that we are 'evil' and stuff like that. Paaathetic.

Thank you for you cooperation. Muchos gracias!

PS.
LeVey says he is sorry. If that means anything to you...

User: "wbarwell"
Title: Re: LeVey	14 Oct 2005 07:42:28 PM

cvbcvb wrote:

I didn't know he was dead. Thank God.

Did you know he liked social darwinism too, just
like you atheists? Now,

Did he lie us into a war?
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The Failure of Christianity in America
W. C . Barwell 3-8-05
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Since Nixon, this nation has rapidly moved to the far right,
taken there mainly by christian right wingers who have fully
supported the GOP as it has moved right to gain support of
christian zealots and conservatives. This started when Nixon
played the racist Southern Strategy card building on civil
rights era resentments by far right Southerners, in a purposeful
plan create by Kevin Phillips, playing on unchristian racist
resentments of the post Jim Crow civil rights era. Kevin
Phillips,
architect of the Sourthern strategy, apologized on NPR radio a
few years back for this plan, which he admitted often sunk into
rank racism.
So we now have had a essentially a christian GOP government
for 30 years.
Under Nixon:
Christian Americans supported incompetent and corrupt
Vietnamese politicians. And a senseless war in Vietnam
that accomplished nothing. And a corrupt US military that
mislead us steadily about all of this.
Nixon lied about having a secret plan to end the war.
Christians supported Nixon's having instigated awful and
murderous policies as the Phoenix program.
Supported the secret bombings in Cambodia that killed
hundreds of thousands of innocent Cambodians.
Despite the lies and deceits, few Christian leaders seemed
to care or be disturbed by such things.
Winked at the invasion of East Timur and parts of New
Guinea by our allies, the Indonesions.
The Indonesians killed 1/4 of the East Timurese over several
decades, mass murder, genocide. 2 million dead.
Winked at the Greek far right Junta that overthrew the
Greek government. Today many Greeks still intensely
dislike teh US for support these men who tortured and jailed
many without charges, based on politics.
Supported the murderous far right Brazilian generals who
overthrew that democratically elected government.
Supported the mass murdering Argentinian government and
their terroristic "Dirty War" of torture, mass murder
and disappearances.
Supported the murderous Pinochet of Chile and overthrow
yet another democratically elected goverment.
No Christians respected life here. Or freedom. But supported
Nixon heartily despite the horrors we commited in Vietnam
and Cambodia and Chile and winked at support for other
dictators and right winged coups mentioned above.
The right wingers of both parties supported this, and many
claimed to be christians.
Reagan.
Reagan lead the GOP in support for military aid to the
genocidal Rios Montt of Guatemala, who's armies most purposefully
practiced wholesale torture, rape and genocide on the Mayan
Indians of Guatemala. A war of terror.
Reagan and the GOP supported the mass murdering ex-Somoza
Guards of Nicaragua.
Reagan and the GOP supported Saddam Hussein of Iraq, despite
Saddam's starting a warm, and using poison gas in his war.
Reagan and the GOP supported the murderous Robert
D'Aubisson of El Salavador, a known far right death
squad leader.
The El Salvadoran government was involved in numerous
murders, and massacres, such as the killing of 400
villagers at a small village called El Mezote, most
of them young women and children.
Reagan and the GOP supported Noriega of Panama.
Few christiabs complained, not the leadership of
US denominations.
Reagan and the GOP happily supported Pol Pot's claim
to be the rightful government of Cambodia despite the
genocide committed by the insane Pol Pot's Khmer Regime,
and even had teh CIA send money and supplies to Pol Pot
while ignoring China's reaming Pol Pot without complaint.
Reagan and the GOP supported a number of murdering
far right extremist guerrilla movements in Africa
including the genocidal Frelimo in Mozambique.
Reagan fought sanctions to end apartheid in South africa.
The Christian and religous right heavily supported Reagan
and the GOP despite numerous examples of such evils as
listed above. The leaders of the religous right never cared
nor complained, neither did the religous leaders of the
main stream christian denominations.
There was and is no respect for life in American
christianity as these wholesale and repeat failures of
America christianity collectively over 20 years shows.
Then we had Bush.
Bush continued support for the evil dictators above,
including Pinochet, Pol Pot and others. However,
Saddam screwed us and invaded Iraq, mainly because
Bush screwed up and did not warn him to not do so
even though Saddam repeatedly threatened Kuwait for
months, carefully gauguing Bush's lack of reaction
and thinking lack of reaction amounted to de facto
permission or acceptance of an invasion of Kuwait
by the inert Bush.
Bush did not act in case of genocide my Jugoslavia's
Milosevic, and Bush and the GOP's loud and obnoxious
footdragging here allowed Milosevic to kill
hundreds of thousands with near impunity.
The leaders of the GOP, House and Senate, and religous
leaders of the right and mainstream denominations never
cared about any of this, nor made issue of these evils.
In the Desert Storm war, Bush allowed the US air
force to bomb Iraq's water and sewer systems.
A war crime.

They placed sanctions on Iraq that made it impossible
to keep their water supplies safe resulting in numerous
deaths that eventually would total over 2 million dead
Iraqi civilians, mostly children.
Our government coldly calculated that these sanctions would
indeed would cause mass epidemics and mass death, and did
it anyway.
Thomas Nagy, a California college professor used the FOIA
statutes to obtain these documents that were published
in September 2001 in the Progressive Magazine.
http://www.progressive.org/0801issue/nagy0901.html
No Christian leaders of either far right or mainstream
cared nor brought Bush and the GOP leadership of House
and Senate to task for this genocide of innocents.
Clinton
Under Clinton this policy continued. Again, Christians did
not care. All Christians cared about was Clintons
don't-ask-don't-tell gays in military policy and Clinton's
sex life and Whitewater.
$47 million spent investigating whitewater while the Christian
right roared with naked hate. Money spent investigation mass
murder in Iraq caused by our purposeful by our sanctions?
$0. Roars of disaprovable from Christian America over these mass
murders? Few.
What has 30 years or right winged GOP government and right
winger christianity got us? Mass murder, genocide,
Nothing but callousness, disregard for human life,
mass moral failure of religion, Christianity and
the american right.
Not once did religous christian Americans, either
leadership or rank and file ever find any of these
evils unacceptable or punish any who supported any
of this.
Most GOP House and Senate members were people who
did these things claimed to be christians. Not a one
cares, not a christian cares, they did not care or act.
30 years of failure. 30 years of support for
far right genocidal bastards, mass murderers,
and evil.
Total christian failure.
Total lack of any real morality at all
in American christianity.
Christians posture as moral, but American christians have
a very bad track records when it comes to morality, they
will happily support any genocidal monster as long as he's
a right winger, and right winger politicians support
that monster, no matter how murderous or genocidal he
and his evil regime is.
Christianity is evil. The proof here is obvious,
and this is not some atrocity of the middle ages,
or the 1500's,this is here and now and ongoing and
continuing.
Bush lied us into a war in Iraq and rather than being
horrified, the c