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User: "maff"
Date: 15 May 2005 04:05:15 PM
Object: Liberal Bible-Thumping
Liberal Bible-Thumping
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/opinion/15kristof.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8295
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Liberals can confront conservative Christians on their own terms.
The Retirement You Weren't Banking On
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/14/AR2005051400073.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6309
By Katherine V.W. Stone, Page B02
Even if you don't work for an airline, last week's ruling by federal
bankruptcy judge Eugene Wedoff -- permitting United Airlines to default
on its pension plans, which cover more than 130,000 people -- should
send shivers up your spine.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
.

User: "dkomo"

Title: Re: Liberal Bible-Thumping 15 May 2005 06:16:27 PM
maff wrote:

Liberal Bible-Thumping
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/opinion/15kristof.html

http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8295
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Liberals can confront conservative Christians on their own terms.

The Retirement You Weren't Banking On
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/14/AR2005051400073.html

http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6309
By Katherine V.W. Stone, Page B02
Even if you don't work for an airline, last week's ruling by federal
bankruptcy judge Eugene Wedoff -- permitting United Airlines to default
on its pension plans, which cover more than 130,000 people -- should
send shivers up your spine.

LOL. The global economy has been sending shivers up the spines of
Americans for more than a decade at least. Probably since the 1990
recession when millions of professionals and middle managers discovered
that the concept of job security was obsolete.

The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd

and thread

The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo

A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Liberal Bible-Thumping 16 May 2005 03:51:06 PM
dkomo wrote:

maff wrote:

Liberal Bible-Thumping
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/opinion/15kristof.html

http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8295
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Liberals can confront conservative Christians on their own terms.

The Retirement You Weren't Banking On

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/14/AR2005051400073.html


http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6309
By Katherine V.W. Stone, Page B02
Even if you don't work for an airline, last week's ruling by

federal

bankruptcy judge Eugene Wedoff -- permitting United Airlines to

default

on its pension plans, which cover more than 130,000 people --

should

send shivers up your spine.


LOL. The global economy has been sending shivers up the spines of
Americans for more than a decade at least. Probably since the 1990
recession when millions of professionals and middle managers

discovered

that the concept of job security was obsolete.


Those who educate themselves and stay ahead of the competition will
prosper. Those who don't will be out of a job.
And one has to be really stupid and/or naive to rely on their job to
support them in their later years. Make timely and sensible
investments now and rely on that to keep you going when you're retired.
View your 401K and pension as a backup.
.
User: "dkomo"

Title: Re: Liberal Bible-Thumping 16 May 2005 05:24:45 PM
wrote:

dkomo wrote:

maff wrote:


Liberal Bible-Thumping
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/opinion/15kristof.html

http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8295
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Liberals can confront conservative Christians on their own terms.

The Retirement You Weren't Banking On


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/14/AR2005051400073.html

http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6309
By Katherine V.W. Stone, Page B02
Even if you don't work for an airline, last week's ruling by


federal

bankruptcy judge Eugene Wedoff -- permitting United Airlines to


default

on its pension plans, which cover more than 130,000 people --


should

send shivers up your spine.


LOL. The global economy has been sending shivers up the spines of
Americans for more than a decade at least. Probably since the 1990
recession when millions of professionals and middle managers


discovered

that the concept of job security was obsolete.



Those who educate themselves and stay ahead of the competition will
prosper. Those who don't will be out of a job.

Oversimplification. Many educated professionals often find themselves
without a job. How is a $100,000 a year software engineer going to
compete with his equally skilled counterpart in Bangalore who makes only
$10,000 a year?
There's one further problem with dog-eat-dog, Darwinian, laissez faire
capitalism: it invariably produces Pareto distributions of wealth and
income. Thus you end up with a society that has a small number of
extremely wealthy people and a huge number of people who are barely
making it. Sort of like, mmmm..., the U.S. is today with its dying
middle class.

And one has to be really stupid and/or naive to rely on their job to
support them in their later years. Make timely and sensible
investments now and rely on that to keep you going when you're retired.
View your 401K and pension as a backup.

Later years? You mean once you're past the age of 40? If you find
yourself umemployed at this age, you better be ready to retire because
few organizations are going to hire you no matter what your
qualifications. You're too expensive relative to the hot shot dudes
coming out of college, and besides, you're a potentially serious health
care risk who could be financially ruinous for a health care plan.

.
User: "maff"

Title: Vilfredo Pareto 17 May 2005 02:40:59 AM
dkomo wrote:

mvillanu@gmail.com wrote:

dkomo wrote:

maff wrote:


Liberal Bible-Thumping
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/opinion/15kristof.html


http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8295

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Liberals can confront conservative Christians on their own terms.

The Retirement You Weren't Banking On



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/14/AR2005051400073.html



http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6309

By Katherine V.W. Stone, Page B02
Even if you don't work for an airline, last week's ruling by


federal

bankruptcy judge Eugene Wedoff -- permitting United Airlines to


default

on its pension plans, which cover more than 130,000 people --


should

send shivers up your spine.


LOL. The global economy has been sending shivers up the spines of
Americans for more than a decade at least. Probably since the 1990
recession when millions of professionals and middle managers


discovered

that the concept of job security was obsolete.



Those who educate themselves and stay ahead of the competition will
prosper. Those who don't will be out of a job.


Oversimplification. Many educated professionals often find

themselves

without a job. How is a $100,000 a year software engineer going to
compete with his equally skilled counterpart in Bangalore who makes

only

$10,000 a year?

There's one further problem with dog-eat-dog, Darwinian, laissez

faire

capitalism: it invariably produces Pareto distributions of wealth and
income. Thus you end up with a society that has a small number of
extremely wealthy people and a huge number of people who are barely
making it. Sort of like, mmmm..., the U.S. is today with its dying
middle class.

Wealth spawns corruption
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.noam-chomsky/msg/90bfe9cdd42eb20e
Philip Ball
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7fd30074c4cf3d57
Pareto OR "Vilfredo Pareto"
http://www.google.com/search?q=Pareto+OR+%22Vilfredo+Pareto%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=Pareto+OR+%22Vilfredo+Pareto%22&btnG=Search+Directory&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Pareto%20OR%20%22Vilfredo%20Pareto%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&scoring=d&tab=wg
http://news.google.com/news?q=Pareto%20OR%20%22Vilfredo%20Pareto%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=gn


And one has to be really stupid and/or naive to rely on their job

to

support them in their later years. Make timely and sensible
investments now and rely on that to keep you going when you're

retired.

View your 401K and pension as a backup.


Later years? You mean once you're past the age of 40? If you find
yourself umemployed at this age, you better be ready to retire

because

few organizations are going to hire you no matter what your
qualifications. You're too expensive relative to the hot shot dudes
coming out of college, and besides, you're a potentially serious

health

care risk who could be financially ruinous for a health care plan.


--dkomo@cris.com

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