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Date: 11 Oct 2004 05:34:32 AM
Object: Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade Centers Fell To The Ground.
Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade
Centers Fell To The Ground.
September 01, 2004, 8:21 a.m.
Hate America First
America hatred is a first principle.
By Adam Wolfson
NRO
The latest hubbub over John Kerry's medals and Purple Hearts is a
distraction from what really matters about his past. We should focus
not on Kerry's admirable military service but on his words and deeds
as an antiwar activist - and what this reveals about the state of
liberalism today.
The key to this larger, more important story is found in an interview
John Kerry gave on NBC's Meet the Press on April 18, 1971. Kerry was
asked - regarding his claim that our policies in Vietnam were
tantamount to genocide - "Do you consider that you personally as a
Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by
law in this country?" Kerry answered straightforwardly, "Yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers
have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones....
I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of
villages."
Now, suppose for a moment that a Republican politician had made such
an admission. As we all know, his political career would have long
since gone down in a hailstorm of accusations and recriminations. He
would have been denounced as a fascist and a Nazi. Yet remarkably, the
democratic Left is supporting for president a man who openly admits to
having committed war crimes. Is this merely a case of double standards
and political cynicism? I don't think so. Deeper, more troubling
political currents have enabled the former Swift-boat captain to stay
afloat all these years.
VIETNAM AS SYMBOL
On April 22, 1971, a young Kerry just back from the war famously
testified before the House Foreign Relations Committee about war
crimes even more heinous than the "atrocities" cited above. Kerry
claimed to speak on that momentous day, in "symbolic" fashion, "as one
member of a group of 1,000" veterans who had apparently committed
horrific acts indeed. "They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut
off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and
turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at
civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."
Of course, no sensible person today believes that Kerry committed war
crimes of any sort. And therein lies the puzzle: Why is Kerry able to
confess to war crimes that no one believes he actually committed
without the least political consequence?
Certainly, the conservatives I know don't believe Kerry is a war
criminal. If anything, among conservatives, there is a touch of
hero-envy. "Why didn't our guy volunteer to fight in Vietnam" is the
hushed question on the lips of many. The Left also does not take the
claim of war crimes to be true in the literal sense: As far as I'm
aware, no reporter has lately asked Kerry to elaborate on what exactly
he was guilty of in Vietnam.
Yet this is no case of liberal hypocrisy or double standards. Nor is
Kerry a "liar" in the simple sense of the term. From the standpoint of
the Left, if Kerry did not commit actual atrocities, he was
nonetheless bearing witness to a deeper (or as Kerry would say,
"symbolic") truth: namely, that America is in some transcendent sense
evil to its core.
In this sense, Kerry's liberal supporters have revealed themselves to
be "true believers" of the worst kind. They have let on that the
anti-Vietnam crusade, now over 30 years old and still running, had
almost nothing to do with what was or was not done in Vietnam. Had the
United States never gotten involved in Vietnam, the Left still would
have turned its furies upon America.
NO BASIS IN REALITY
The concept of America-as-criminal-nation, a staple on the Left
nowadays, has always been less a conclusion than a premise or first
principle. Kerry granted as much in his 1971 testimony when he
acknowledged, "We are here in Washington to say that the problem of
this war is not just a question of war and diplomacy. It is part and
parcel of everything that we are trying ... to communicate to people
in this country - the question of racism ... and so many other
questions."
"Racism." This is the catch-all word the Left used in Kerry's day, as
it does in our own day, to characterize American life in its entirety.
That the charge has little basis in reality is beside the point to the
Left. Lest we forget, 2004 presidential candidate Al Sharpton first
made his name in 1987 representing a black girl named Tawana Brawley,
who claimed that she had been repeatedly raped by vigilante white New
York policemen. The entire episode was eventually proved to be a hoax.
Not only that, but a grand jury investigation concluded that Sharpton
had always known Brawley was lying.
Sharpton never apologized, but is today courted and toasted by white
liberals. They didn't mind the hoax or the lie, since Tawana Brawley
for them was not a real girl but instead a symbol of what they already
knew to be true about America - that it is racist through and through.
Kerry's faux war crimes operate for the Left on the same level, as an
inner "truth" of some sort.
Generally, we rather sloppily think of liberals as pragmatists or
empiricists. Liberals, it is said, take the scientific approach to
life and politics. They base their opinions on the facts.
(Conservatives, by contrast, are said to take things on faith.) As it
happens, this is not the case at all. America-hatred on the Left would
exist with or without the Vietnam War or Tawana Brawley - and with or
without our involvement in Iraq today. It is a sentiment with deep
ideological roots and in service of equally deep psychological needs.
This explains why liberals can support a man for president who admits
to war crimes. His crimes have no basis in reality, as we all know
with a wink and a nod, but are still somehow "part and parcel" of a
truer American reality. A Kerry victory in November would, in the eyes
of the Left, substantiate this counter-reality - and in a way Michael
Moore could only dream of.
--Adam Wolfson is editor of The Public Interest.
----------------
Liberals Hate America!
.

User: "Ike"

Title: Re: Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade Centers Fell To The Ground. 11 Oct 2004 07:01:47 AM
"Susan Cohen" <castin53@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6811255.0410110234.524a07fe@posting.google.com...

Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade
Centers Fell To The Ground.



September 01, 2004, 8:21 a.m.
Hate America First
America hatred is a first principle.

By Adam Wolfson
NRO

The latest hubbub over John Kerry's medals and Purple Hearts is a
distraction from what really matters about his past. We should focus
not on Kerry's admirable military service but on his words and deeds
as an antiwar activist - and what this reveals about the state of
liberalism today.

I thought it was about the WTC, like the subject line but I guess not.
Anyhow I will vote Kerry-Edwards Nov. 2, even though registering to vote
caused both my wife and I to receive summonses fo Jury Duty. I only wish
lying on the internet were something you could be sued for.
--
Chinese accordions suck.
.

User: "Harry"

Title: Re: Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade Centers Fell To The Ground. 11 Oct 2004 12:48:04 PM
(Susan Cohen) wrote in message news:<c6811255.0410110234.524a07fe@posting.google.com>...

Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade
Centers Fell To The Ground.



September 01, 2004, 8:21 a.m.
Hate America First
America hatred is a first principle.

By Adam Wolfson
NRO

The latest hubbub over John Kerry's medals and Purple Hearts is a
distraction from what really matters about his past. We should focus
not on Kerry's admirable military service but on his words and deeds
as an antiwar activist - and what this reveals about the state of
liberalism today.

The key to this larger, more important story is found in an interview
John Kerry gave on NBC's Meet the Press on April 18, 1971. Kerry was
asked - regarding his claim that our policies in Vietnam were
tantamount to genocide - "Do you consider that you personally as a
Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by
law in this country?" Kerry answered straightforwardly, "Yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers
have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones....
I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of
villages."

Now, suppose for a moment that a Republican politician had made such
an admission.

He did, in fact. John McCain has admitted bombing targets in North
Vietnam which was also a war crime. In fact, since the Vietnam War
was an ongoing, ten-year running war crime, every soldier took part in
war crimes the moment they got off the plane in Tansanut.
You folks are going to have to realize what a disaster the Vietnam war
was, moronic, unwinnable, criminal, and we were on the wrong side. Ho
Chi-minh was on the right side. Ask the Vietnamese! I'm real sorry
to hear you folks sent 55,000 of your young people to die for nothing,
but there you have it.
Next time, why don't you just get 55,000 young people together in an
auditorium or stadium and kill them right there. Save yourself ten
years and a lot of money.
As we all know, his political career would have long

since gone down in a hailstorm of accusations and recriminations. He
would have been denounced as a fascist and a Nazi. Yet remarkably, the
democratic Left is supporting for president a man who openly admits to
having committed war crimes. Is this merely a case of double standards
and political cynicism? I don't think so. Deeper, more troubling
political currents have enabled the former Swift-boat captain to stay
afloat all these years.

VIETNAM AS SYMBOL
On April 22, 1971, a young Kerry just back from the war famously
testified before the House Foreign Relations Committee about war
crimes even more heinous than the "atrocities" cited above. Kerry
claimed to speak on that momentous day, in "symbolic" fashion, "as one
member of a group of 1,000" veterans who had apparently committed
horrific acts indeed. "They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut
off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and
turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at
civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

Of course, no sensible person today believes that Kerry committed war
crimes of any sort. And therein lies the puzzle: Why is Kerry able to
confess to war crimes that no one believes he actually committed
without the least political consequence?

Certainly, the conservatives I know don't believe Kerry is a war
criminal. If anything, among conservatives, there is a touch of
hero-envy. "Why didn't our guy volunteer to fight in Vietnam" is the
hushed question on the lips of many. The Left also does not take the
claim of war crimes to be true in the literal sense: As far as I'm
aware, no reporter has lately asked Kerry to elaborate on what exactly
he was guilty of in Vietnam.

Yet this is no case of liberal hypocrisy or double standards. Nor is
Kerry a "liar" in the simple sense of the term. From the standpoint of
the Left, if Kerry did not commit actual atrocities, he was
nonetheless bearing witness to a deeper (or as Kerry would say,
"symbolic") truth: namely, that America is in some transcendent sense
evil to its core.

In this sense, Kerry's liberal supporters have revealed themselves to
be "true believers" of the worst kind. They have let on that the
anti-Vietnam crusade, now over 30 years old and still running, had
almost nothing to do with what was or was not done in Vietnam. Had the
United States never gotten involved in Vietnam, the Left still would
have turned its furies upon America.

NO BASIS IN REALITY
The concept of America-as-criminal-nation, a staple on the Left
nowadays, has always been less a conclusion than a premise or first
principle. Kerry granted as much in his 1971 testimony when he
acknowledged, "We are here in Washington to say that the problem of
this war is not just a question of war and diplomacy. It is part and
parcel of everything that we are trying ... to communicate to people
in this country - the question of racism ... and so many other
questions."

"Racism." This is the catch-all word the Left used in Kerry's day, as
it does in our own day, to characterize American life in its entirety.
That the charge has little basis in reality is beside the point to the
Left. Lest we forget, 2004 presidential candidate Al Sharpton first
made his name in 1987 representing a black girl named Tawana Brawley,
who claimed that she had been repeatedly raped by vigilante white New
York policemen. The entire episode was eventually proved to be a hoax.
Not only that, but a grand jury investigation concluded that Sharpton
had always known Brawley was lying.

Sharpton never apologized, but is today courted and toasted by white
liberals. They didn't mind the hoax or the lie, since Tawana Brawley
for them was not a real girl but instead a symbol of what they already
knew to be true about America - that it is racist through and through.
Kerry's faux war crimes operate for the Left on the same level, as an
inner "truth" of some sort.

Generally, we rather sloppily think of liberals as pragmatists or
empiricists. Liberals, it is said, take the scientific approach to
life and politics. They base their opinions on the facts.
(Conservatives, by contrast, are said to take things on faith.) As it
happens, this is not the case at all. America-hatred on the Left would
exist with or without the Vietnam War or Tawana Brawley - and with or
without our involvement in Iraq today. It is a sentiment with deep
ideological roots and in service of equally deep psychological needs.
This explains why liberals can support a man for president who admits
to war crimes. His crimes have no basis in reality, as we all know
with a wink and a nod, but are still somehow "part and parcel" of a
truer American reality. A Kerry victory in November would, in the eyes
of the Left, substantiate this counter-reality - and in a way Michael
Moore could only dream of.

--Adam Wolfson is editor of The Public Interest.




----------------
Liberals Hate America!

.

User: "Kermit"

Title: Re: Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade Centers Fell To The Ground. 11 Oct 2004 10:17:54 AM
(Susan Cohen) wrote in message news:<c6811255.0410110234.524a07fe@posting.google.com>...

Liberals Hate America First!!!! Liberals Laughed When The World Trade
Centers Fell To The Ground.



September 01, 2004, 8:21 a.m.
Hate America First
America hatred is a first principle.

By Adam Wolfson
NRO

The latest hubbub over John Kerry's medals and Purple Hearts is a
distraction from what really matters about his past. We should focus
not on Kerry's admirable military service but on his words and deeds
as an antiwar activist - and what this reveals about the state of
liberalism today.

The key to this larger, more important story is found in an interview
John Kerry gave on NBC's Meet the Press on April 18, 1971. Kerry was
asked - regarding his claim that our policies in Vietnam were
tantamount to genocide - "Do you consider that you personally as a
Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by
law in this country?" Kerry answered straightforwardly, "Yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers
have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones....
I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of
villages."

Now, suppose for a moment that a Republican politician had made such
an admission. As we all know, his political career would have long
since gone down in a hailstorm of accusations and recriminations. He
would have been denounced as a fascist and a Nazi. Yet remarkably, the
democratic Left is supporting for president a man who openly admits to
having committed war crimes. Is this merely a case of double standards
and political cynicism? I don't think so. Deeper, more troubling
political currents have enabled the former Swift-boat captain to stay
afloat all these years.

Really? So if a Republican politician was, say, drunk for the first
twenty years of his adult life, drove drunk with reckless disregard
for his fellow citizens, pulicly challenged his father to a fist
fight, etc, but then repented, it wouldn't be accepted by the
right-wing voters?
<snip more of the same: "They're picking on us!">


--Adam Wolfson is editor of The Public Interest.




----------------
Liberals Hate America!

Not only has Susan changed her political opinions, IIRC, but she has
changed her email account, also. What is one to make of all this?
Tsk.
Kermit
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