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"johac" |
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29 May 2005 06:56:58 PM |
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Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
Bush takes hypocrisy to new depths.
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Published on Sunday, May 29, 2005 by the Press & Sunday
Bulletin(Binghamton, NY)
Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue
by David Rossie
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more than
20,000 others.
The cost in public money? More than $200 billion and counting. But then,
who's counting? After all, freedom is on the march.
On Tuesday, while Democrats and Republicans in the House of
Representatives were approving legislation that would provide federal
funding for embryonic stem cell research, George Bush, darling of the
religious far right, was holding forth over at the White House on the
sanctity of human life in a media event orchestrated by Karl Rove; human
life in this instance being clusters of unused embryonic stem cells,
many if not most of which are routinely destroyed.
Better to have them destroyed, apparently, than used to advance
scientific research that might someday lead to a cure for a number of
now-incurable diseases and irreparable spinal injuries.
The man who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and
emotionally devastated men and women crowding this nation's military
hospitals, and for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries
across the land, along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi
men, women and children, stood amid baby-toting parents recruited for
the occasion, and expounded on the sanctity of what he considers another
form of human life, one without arms, legs, brain, heart or any other
organs.
"Every embryo is unique and genetically complete," Bush intoned,
according to The New York Times. "Every human life is a precious gift of
matchless love."
Not every human life, as we've come to find out from watching Bush and
Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and the rest of the gang in action.
Well, not them in action, really, but the men and women they have sent
into action to do their dirty work; men and women infinitely more
admirable than they are. Once those precious embryos -- the ones that
escape the medical waste containers and make it from a test tube to a
uterus by way of in vitro fertilization -- reach adulthood, they are
reclassified: from precious gifts to cannon fodder.
That's life. And death. And that is what this embryonic stem cell
research argument is all about. In an ideal society, one governed by
enlightened, rational men and women rather than pressure group-driven
ideologues, legislators would not be arguing this issue -- hope of life
versus certain death -- and a president possessed of even average
intelligence would not be sacrificing science to superstition.
But we're not. We're living in a country where medical researchers are
being stymied by religious extremists; a country in which third-rate
politicians would rather crush the hopes of individuals struggling
against Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, diabetes, and spinal chord paralysis
than risk losing the support of zealots who care more about the unborn
than the born.
We're living in a country governed, nominally at least, by a man who as
governor of Texas never encountered a death penalty he didn't heartily
endorse, a man who has fronted for a gang of neoconservative war lovers,
a man whose environmental agenda threatens the lives of everyone who
breathes the air or drinks water. And that man gets up on his hind legs
and tells us that every human life is precious.
Should we laugh or cry?
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http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0529-27.htm
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
29 May 2005 08:19:29 PM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
29 May 2005 10:14:00 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
I noticed that too. Even if he didn't believe that figure he could have said
"possibly tens of thousands".
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
29 May 2005 10:24:40 PM |
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"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
news:Yxvme.145$Ag1.26@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more
than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
I noticed that too. Even if he didn't believe that figure he could have
said
"possibly tens of thousands".
Indeed! But there's a kind of smug, self-righteous 'convention' operating
here, isn't there? "'Whatever happens, our side is still better than anyone
else's side, so *let's not mention the innocent people we kill*...".
It's truly disgusting. As well as dishonest, evasive, and nauseatingly
self-serving. And part of the fabric of the culture: omnipresent;
hydra-headed; impossible to kill...
Katt.
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
29 May 2005 10:13:26 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
They are menetioned later in the piece but don't rate highly enough by the
author to mention them in the same paragraph, since he seems to be some sort
of a whining political opportunist.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
30 May 2005 12:39:46 AM |
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In article <BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
He does mention Iraqi casualties further down in the article: "The man
who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and emotionally
devastated men and women crowding this nation's military hospitals, and
for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries across the land
along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi men, women and
children..."
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
30 May 2005 02:38:22 PM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-A3F358.22394629052005@news.giganews.com...
In article <BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more
than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
He does mention Iraqi casualties further down in the article: "The man
who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and emotionally
devastated men and women crowding this nation's military hospitals, and
for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries across the land
along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi men, women and
children..."
Aha, right you are. Would have made more sense at the top of the article,
though, to associate it more directly with the declaration that "We should
not use public money to support the further destruction of human life".
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
30 May 2005 11:33:40 PM |
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In article <OYJme.233$JQ6.61@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-A3F358.22394629052005@news.giganews.com...
In article <BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more
than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
He does mention Iraqi casualties further down in the article: "The man
who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and emotionally
devastated men and women crowding this nation's military hospitals, and
for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries across the land
along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi men, women and
children..."
Aha, right you are. Would have made more sense at the top of the article,
though, to associate it more directly with the declaration that "We should
not use public money to support the further destruction of human life".
True. If I were writing the article myself, that's what I would have
done.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Life is Seen as Precious, Depending on the Issue |
30 May 2005 10:36:26 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-A3F358.22394629052005@news.giganews.com:
In article <BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction
of human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than
1,600 American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives
of more than 20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
He does mention Iraqi casualties further down in the article: "The man
who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and emotionally
devastated men and women crowding this nation's military hospitals,
and for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries across the
land along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi men,
women and children..."
That man would be Saddam Hussein...
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "Dale" |
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30 May 2005 02:40:49 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1117467386.0d747526298a562730984c38511a9f2d@teranews...
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-A3F358.22394629052005@news.giganews.com:
[...]
He does mention Iraqi casualties further down in the article: "The man
who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and emotionally
devastated men and women crowding this nation's military hospitals,
and for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries across the
land along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi men,
women and children..."
That man would be Saddam Hussein...
This is what makes it so easy to get away with criminal behavior in wartime.
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| User: "johac" |
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30 May 2005 11:34:25 PM |
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In article <1117467386.0d747526298a562730984c38511a9f2d@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-A3F358.22394629052005@news.giganews.com:
In article <BStme.1305$s25.430@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction
of human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than
1,600 American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives
of more than 20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
Katt.
He does mention Iraqi casualties further down in the article: "The man
who shares responsibility for the limbless, blind and emotionally
devastated men and women crowding this nation's military hospitals,
and for the ever-growing number of new graves in cemeteries across the
land along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi men,
women and children..."
That man would be Saddam Hussein...
Who was a murderer too.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Richo" |
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29 May 2005 08:50:21 PM |
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Katt wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-682F53.16565829052005@news.giganews.com...
"We should not use public money to support the further destruction of
human life," proclaimed the man who led his country, under false
pretenses, into a war that has destroyed the lives of more than 1,600
American men and women, and traumatically altered the lives of more than
20,000 others.
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
read a bit further...
" along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi
men, women and children,"
We don't know how many because they don't count 'em.
Mark.
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| User: "Katt" |
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29 May 2005 09:23:39 PM |
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
read a bit further...
" along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi
men, women and children,"
We don't know how many because they don't count 'em.
Indeed. Other people do, however. See, for example:
www.iraqbodycount.net
for a decidedly 'conservative' running (and rapidly increasing) total.
Katt.
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| User: "Richo" |
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29 May 2005 10:05:34 PM |
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Katt wrote:
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go *completely
unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
read a bit further...
" along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi
men, women and children,"
We don't know how many because they don't count 'em.
Indeed. Other people do, however. See, for example:
www.iraqbodycount.net
for a decidedly 'conservative' running (and rapidly increasing) total.
Katt.
Thank's for the url!
Mark.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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30 May 2005 01:55:51 AM |
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1117422334.865322.294700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Katt wrote:
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
And what might easily be 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths go
*completely unmentioned* at this point..! Nice!
read a bit further...
" along with the deaths of God only knows how many Iraqi
men, women and children,"
We don't know how many because they don't count 'em.
Indeed. Other people do, however. See, for example:
www.iraqbodycount.net
for a decidedly 'conservative' running (and rapidly increasing) total.
Katt.
Thank's for the url!
Mark.
I think the website is a bit slanted. How many died in 1999? 1990?
1995? Without a reference point it is rather difficult to assess the
numbers. A cursory glance seem to place most of the death due to homemade
bombs, executions, and other deaths from the hands of the Iraqi
themselves.
All things considered, why is so much attention given to a few thousand
when over one million people die each year from malaria? One million or
more have died every year since the banning of DDT.
Thank you very much Rachel Carson for your book of lies which has directly
resulted in the killing of millions of children and adults. Rachel
Carson, you are a ***** and should be held accountable for your *****
filled book "Silent Spring" and the deaths you have directly caused.
The very existence of Rachel Carson is yet another proof for the
nonexistence of God. No God would permit someone to kill over a million
people every year.
rj
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