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"Elroy Willis" |
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22 Mar 2007 06:47:26 AM |
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Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
27 Mar 2007 05:09:39 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:77ih03pvni75cf80ao0sfqfdhaaqbb4c95@4ax.com:
On 26 Mar 2007 09:16:11 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:nqce03p98bm1vt05oslplt6h50did6050k@4ax.com:
First thing monday morning I'm checking out a book on chi
energy from the library. (Ehhh.... the library opens at noon
and then I'll probably forget about this DST garbage, and I'll
really need to .. .... anyway) By tuesday evening you will not
be able to find your Swadhisthana chakra.
It probably fell down the back of the sofa.
The chi energy alignement is working already? I haven't even
started yet, this must be really powerful stuff. :-)
Chi energy is transcendent above the direction of time.
And transcendent above reason and especially evidence.
True. However, I'm sure there is something in the manual that deals
with those details. There usually is. Somebody with bad karma
interfering? The moon is in the wrong phase when all the planets are
in an (almost) straight line? Elvis has been reincarnated as a siamese
cat?
If you haven't found your chakra behind the sofa, this is the
mandatory anecdote that proves the stuff works.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
27 Mar 2007 09:19:09 PM |
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On 27 Mar 2007 10:09:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:77ih03pvni75cf80ao0sfqfdhaaqbb4c95@4ax.com:
On 26 Mar 2007 09:16:11 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:nqce03p98bm1vt05oslplt6h50did6050k@4ax.com:
First thing monday morning I'm checking out a book on chi
energy from the library. (Ehhh.... the library opens at noon
and then I'll probably forget about this DST garbage, and I'll
really need to .. .... anyway) By tuesday evening you will not
be able to find your Swadhisthana chakra.
It probably fell down the back of the sofa.
The chi energy alignement is working already? I haven't even
started yet, this must be really powerful stuff. :-)
Chi energy is transcendent above the direction of time.
And transcendent above reason and especially evidence.
True. However, I'm sure there is something in the manual that deals
with those details. There usually is. Somebody with bad karma
interfering? The moon is in the wrong phase when all the planets are
in an (almost) straight line? Elvis has been reincarnated as a siamese
cat?
If you haven't found your chakra behind the sofa, this is the
mandatory anecdote that proves the stuff works.
I didn't find my Chakra, but I *did* find my old set of car keys, and
enough grubby change to nearly make a dollar!
(And a few unidentifiable bits of once may have been food of some
sort)
Spirits be praised!
(Johnny Walker, especialy)
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
28 Mar 2007 06:45:54 PM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:d1kj0352aktckf6k3qmc8gchj1tu7ecd41@4ax.com:
If you haven't found your chakra behind the sofa, this is the
mandatory anecdote that proves the stuff works.
I didn't find my Chakra, but I *did* find my old set of car keys,
and enough grubby change to nearly make a dollar!
(And a few unidentifiable bits of once may have been food of some
sort)
Hmmm, if they cannot be identified they might be ..... something else.
Spirits be praised!
(Johnny Walker, especialy)
Does Johnny Walker fit the chi paradigm? Let's do some recursive tests
to see what happens.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
28 Mar 2007 11:48:21 PM |
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On 28 Mar 2007 23:45:54 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:d1kj0352aktckf6k3qmc8gchj1tu7ecd41@4ax.com:
If you haven't found your chakra behind the sofa, this is the
mandatory anecdote that proves the stuff works.
I didn't find my Chakra, but I *did* find my old set of car keys,
and enough grubby change to nearly make a dollar!
(And a few unidentifiable bits of once may have been food of some
sort)
Hmmm, if they cannot be identified they might be ..... something else.
I'll kill that dog!
Spirits be praised!
(Johnny Walker, especialy)
Does Johnny Walker fit the chi paradigm? Let's do some recursive tests
to see what happens.
Are you buying?
--
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
29 Mar 2007 05:01:34 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:o7hm03l3k0cq5j1t5ehog8guhfo2quh71f@4ax.com:
On 28 Mar 2007 23:45:54 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns99021AD3C8Flisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:d1kj0352aktckf6k3qmc8gchj1tu7ecd41@4ax.com:
If you haven't found your chakra behind the sofa, this is the
mandatory anecdote that proves the stuff works.
I didn't find my Chakra, but I *did* find my old set of car
keys, and enough grubby change to nearly make a dollar!
(And a few unidentifiable bits of once may have been food of
some sort)
Hmmm, if they cannot be identified they might be ..... something
else.
I'll kill that dog!
Spirits be praised!
(Johnny Walker, especialy)
Does Johnny Walker fit the chi paradigm? Let's do some recursive
tests to see what happens.
Are you buying?
Okay. :-) Will you show up in person for the test, or should I
teleport the stuff to your part of the world? Can the sofa handle any
more messes?
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
30 Mar 2007 12:41:56 AM |
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On 29 Mar 2007 10:01:34 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:o7hm03l3k0cq5j1t5ehog8guhfo2quh71f@4ax.com:
On 28 Mar 2007 23:45:54 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns99021AD3C8Flisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:d1kj0352aktckf6k3qmc8gchj1tu7ecd41@4ax.com:
If you haven't found your chakra behind the sofa, this is the
mandatory anecdote that proves the stuff works.
I didn't find my Chakra, but I *did* find my old set of car
keys, and enough grubby change to nearly make a dollar!
(And a few unidentifiable bits of once may have been food of
some sort)
Hmmm, if they cannot be identified they might be ..... something
else.
I'll kill that dog!
Spirits be praised!
(Johnny Walker, especialy)
Does Johnny Walker fit the chi paradigm? Let's do some recursive
tests to see what happens.
Are you buying?
Okay. :-) Will you show up in person for the test, or should I
teleport the stuff to your part of the world? Can the sofa handle any
more messes?
Oh dear, you caught me on the hop there.
My teleport booth is crammed full of junk-mail from other dimensions.
And my sofa has the answer to the problem of the universe's missing
mess.
I'll have my agent call your agent first thing tomorrow, OK?
Let's do launch sometime?
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 07:18:36 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
No more beer for you.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 08:36:35 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:18:36 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <nk5a03tq5nnov76r5s7ia352aen7ob7a78@4ax.com>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
No more beer for you.
Oh dear, I shall be reduced to 'making do' with the Professor's
coconut wine.
Now, where did I put that Ginger Root Beer?
Maryanne has it.
Put her down at once, you lesbian pervy!
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Mar 2007 09:12:41 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows
what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
No more beer for you.
Oh dear, I shall be reduced to 'making do' with the Professor's
coconut wine.
Now, where did I put that Ginger Root Beer?
Maryanne has it.
Put her down at once, you lesbian pervy!
Howell you ever choose between the two?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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24 Mar 2007 08:44:17 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:12:41 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <o7ca03pl704umurmru8fr2hg6vh55tm112@4ax.com>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows
what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
No more beer for you.
Oh dear, I shall be reduced to 'making do' with the Professor's
coconut wine.
Now, where did I put that Ginger Root Beer?
Maryanne has it.
Put her down at once, you lesbian pervy!
Howell you ever choose between the two?
Lovey will have it's way, Professor.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 02:42:03 AM |
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In article <qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com>,
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
If such a person were available, I would look for someone who lived on a
similar island in the vicinity. Not only would he/she know where to find
things, but what to do with them when you found them.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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22 Mar 2007 07:19:07 AM |
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On Mar 22, 11:47 am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
A liar, an archer, a carpenter and an engineer. The engineer and the
carpenter could design and build shelters, the carpenter could also
fashion weapons for the archer to de-animate mobile sources of food
with. The liar could entertain everyone else with their tall stories.
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
Psychics are liars.
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
Don't get them started on fishermen!
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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22 Mar 2007 07:57:31 AM |
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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister wrote in alt.atheism
On Mar 22, 11:47 am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
<snip>
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
A liar, an archer, a carpenter and an engineer. The engineer and the
carpenter could design and build shelters, the carpenter could also
fashion weapons for the archer to de-animate mobile sources of food
with.
Definitely a carpenter and engineer, and a stone mason as well, I
think. And at least one farmer.
The liar could entertain everyone else with their tall stories.
He could probably lie his way onto the lifeboat by telling everyone
he was a jack of all trades. "Hell yes I can start a fire, and you
wouldn't believe the size of the fish I caught last month!"
He'd be in big trouble, though, once they got on the island, and he
couldn't do what he said he could do. They'd most likely make him
do menial labor as a punishment for his lies..
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
Psychics are liars.
I hate them with a passion. John Edward pisses me off bigtime every
time I catch him while channel flipping. He's a real scumbag.
Southpark did an episode about him which I thought was quite
appropriate.
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
Don't get them started on fishermen!
There's a big difference between fishermen and "fishers" of "men" ..
The latter suggests being able to dupe people by trolling for them
like fish, with false claims and promises. Luring them into the con,
hook, line, and sinker, like religions do to attract people.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "magilla" |
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25 Mar 2007 10:15:15 PM |
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On Mar 22, 7:47 am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
--
Elroy Williswww.elroysemporium.com
You have two separate issues here. The first is immediate survival.
The second is making it back to a continent where there are the
trappings of civilization, and starting over (I assume that's what you
meant).
In any case, trying my best to reconcile those two slightly
incongruent objectives, here's my list and my rationale:
1, Priest*
2, Doctor- self explanatory
3. Accomplished sport fisherman- self explanatory
4. Botanist- to spot useful food/medicine/hallucinogenic plants on the
island
5. Survivalist- hopefully with guns, to do all the manly survival
things like start a fire and hunt crabs
6. Shipwright/sailor- obvious- you need to get off the island
7. Astronomer- once you get a boat you need to know where you're going
8. Farmer- once you land somewhere, you need to grow food
9. Rancher- once you land somewhere, you want a burger
10. Electrical engineer- once you land somewhere, you want power
11. Midwife- once you land somewhere (and maybe earlier) you want
someone who can deliver a baby
12. Librarian- once you land somewhere, you want someone who can find
all the info you don't know cause you left that person to drown
13. Brewer- self explanatory
14. Chef- self explanatory
15. Veterinarian- self explanatory
Well, that's all I have patience for. I think you have the kernel of a
decent civilization there, though.
Chris
*Oh, the priest. You gotta have something to tide you over on the
island until you can start collecting enough food.
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| User: "Andres64" |
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22 Mar 2007 12:57:20 PM |
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On Mar 22, 7:47 am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
A doctor of some sort would have to be high on the list.
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
Hell no. Scum of the earth.
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
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| User: "MarkA" |
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30 Mar 2007 10:29:41 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a known
deserted island. The people on board think they're the only human
survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down fast. The only
people who are likely to survive are those who are chosen to get on the
only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if they
actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat would be
best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since there aren't
any computers on the island, so I don't mind being excluded from the
lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I don't think I really
deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone on the
lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their memory
alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are the
most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but without
any connection to modern conveniences brought in by the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be at the top of
the list. They can provide food and warmth and a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics and
fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of them
when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top of
the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
I'd put game show host at the top of the list. After all, people are
going to have a lot of free time on their hands.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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30 Mar 2007 10:33:31 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Apr 2007 10:06:42 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:33:31 -0400, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
Of course. The person didn't have the skills to survive in that
environment.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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04 Apr 2007 10:26:31 PM |
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stoney wrote:
MarkA wrote
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
Of course. The person didn't have the skills to survive in that
environment.
This reminds me of a story in reverse. In that one there were rules
about taking over planets; you could only attack the natives with their
own level of technology or lower. Some commercial consortium wanted to
gobble up a bunch of resource rich planets with primitive cultures so it
visited Earth, abducted an entire Roman legion and trotted them around
the galaxy wiping out everyone, the point being the weapons they faced
didn't matter, it was their discipline that won the day.
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Apr 2007 01:57:53 PM |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:26:31 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
MarkA wrote
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
Of course. The person didn't have the skills to survive in that
environment.
This reminds me of a story in reverse. In that one there were rules
about taking over planets; you could only attack the natives with their
own level of technology or lower. Some commercial consortium wanted to
gobble up a bunch of resource rich planets with primitive cultures so it
visited Earth, abducted an entire Roman legion and trotted them around
the galaxy wiping out everyone, the point being the weapons they faced
didn't matter, it was their discipline that won the day.
Yes. Any idea of the title or author?
I can't recall if it was Arthur C. Clarke or Isaac Asimov who wrote the
story about a culture's fixation on 'wonder weapons' led to their
military defeat by the more primitive weapons of their adversary.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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05 Apr 2007 02:01:52 AM |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:26:31 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1clivakn6oa2i.8i1kcj7rxg0f$.dlg@40tude.net>
stoney wrote:
MarkA wrote
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
Of course. The person didn't have the skills to survive in that
environment.
This reminds me of a story in reverse. In that one there were rules
about taking over planets; you could only attack the natives with their
own level of technology or lower. Some commercial consortium wanted to
gobble up a bunch of resource rich planets with primitive cultures so it
visited Earth, abducted an entire Roman legion and trotted them around
the galaxy wiping out everyone, the point being the weapons they faced
didn't matter, it was their discipline that won the day.
Georgius Bushius Maximus?
--
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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05 Apr 2007 05:21:34 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote after much deliberation:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:26:31 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1clivakn6oa2i.8i1kcj7rxg0f$.dlg@40tude.net>
stoney wrote:
MarkA wrote
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
Of course. The person didn't have the skills to survive in that
environment.
This reminds me of a story in reverse. In that one there were rules
about taking over planets; you could only attack the natives with their
own level of technology or lower. Some commercial consortium wanted to
gobble up a bunch of resource rich planets with primitive cultures so it
visited Earth, abducted an entire Roman legion and trotted them around
the galaxy wiping out everyone, the point being the weapons they faced
didn't matter, it was their discipline that won the day.
Georgius Bushius Maximus?
Oh, that GWB were as fictional as Maximus Decimus Meridius!
--
Pangur Ban
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways ......totally
worn-out..... shouting, 'Yeehaw.....what a ride!'"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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09 Apr 2007 06:33:40 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:21:34 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.29057d7410d7855c.64065@att.net>
Michael Gray wrote after much deliberation:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:26:31 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1clivakn6oa2i.8i1kcj7rxg0f$.dlg@40tude.net>
stoney wrote:
MarkA wrote
This scenario reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read many years ago.
It involved a modern soldier/weapons specialist, who found himself
transported several centuries into the past. Of course, most all of his
skills were useless, since they depended on a technology that wouldn't
exist for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, he knew nothing of the technology
of the day: he couldn't temper a steel blade, make an arrow, etc. He
wound up being killed.
Of course. The person didn't have the skills to survive in that
environment.
This reminds me of a story in reverse. In that one there were rules
about taking over planets; you could only attack the natives with their
own level of technology or lower. Some commercial consortium wanted to
gobble up a bunch of resource rich planets with primitive cultures so it
visited Earth, abducted an entire Roman legion and trotted them around
the galaxy wiping out everyone, the point being the weapons they faced
didn't matter, it was their discipline that won the day.
Georgius Bushius Maximus?
Oh, that GWB were as fictional as Maximus Decimus Meridius!
His speeches are pure fiction.
--
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
22 Mar 2007 07:24:27 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
:
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
--
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| User: "Smiler" |
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23 Mar 2007 01:53:24 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:6g76031di1i3qq5m0a1jp53tl5r1r5irkv@4ax.com...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
:
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
I that case you're gonna need a banker as well.
Where else are you gonna get the money to pay the prositute?
I've heard of a brewer giving away free beer, but a prostitute.........
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 09:11:42 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:53:24 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <EPKMh.14456$_v3.2197@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:6g76031di1i3qq5m0a1jp53tl5r1r5irkv@4ax.com...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
:
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
I that case you're gonna need a banker as well.
Where else are you gonna get the money to pay the prositute?
I've heard of a brewer giving away free beer, but a prostitute.........
I propose paying her in beer!
And before you say there are no prostitutes who will work for beer,
I have to point out that I live in Australia.
--
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 05:19:44 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:3un7035mhtllqa242tct0e18og9m7jtfjt@4ax.com...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:53:24 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <EPKMh.14456$_v3.2197@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:6g76031di1i3qq5m0a1jp53tl5r1r5irkv@4ax.com...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:47:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
:
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
I that case you're gonna need a banker as well.
Where else are you gonna get the money to pay the prositute?
I've heard of a brewer giving away free beer, but a prostitute.........
I propose paying her in beer!
And before you say there are no prostitutes who will work for beer,
I have to point out that I live in Australia.
I bow to your superior knowledge on that.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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23 Mar 2007 08:00:58 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
A prostitute who also knows how to brew beer and start a fire?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 09:42:07 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:00:58 -0500, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <apj703hlsofphql7lu1fb4c92vahc0k6n1@4ax.com>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
A prostitute who also knows how to brew beer and start a fire?
I married one once.
--
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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24 Mar 2007 09:49:58 AM |
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In article <1pp70312fnqegqkq3kn7psp10u4vcdlha8@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:00:58 -0500, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <apj703hlsofphql7lu1fb4c92vahc0k6n1@4ax.com>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
A brewer and a prostitute.
Not necessarily in that order!
A prostitute who also knows how to brew beer and start a fire?
I married one once.
Holy crap. Hot, drunk and sated all at the same time. But I guess you
threw heaven away, huh?
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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