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"Elroy Willis" |
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22 Mar 2007 06:47:26 AM |
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Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
22 Mar 2007 02:50:31 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
<....>
A midwife.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 08:14:28 AM |
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Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
<....>
A midwife.
A hooker midwife who could start fires and cook fish, perhaps?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 10:38:13 AM |
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:vjk703p88adpo1as0c4sh6djasvl5a5cp9@4ax.com:
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
<....>
A midwife.
A hooker midwife who could start fires and cook fish, perhaps?
I don't think hooker will be very high on your list. If they are going
to repopulate the world most of the lifeboat passengers should be
female. People with multiple skills and small size should get
priority. The small size is because then you can load a few extra
people in the lifeboat.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 09:41:07 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:14:28 -0500, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <vjk703p88adpo1as0c4sh6djasvl5a5cp9@4ax.com>
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
<....>
A midwife.
A hooker midwife who could start fires and cook fish, perhaps?
And make beer.
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 09:57:33 AM |
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In article <onp7031089ke5i8sr5f4od22ic43na29gc@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:14:28 -0500, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <vjk703p88adpo1as0c4sh6djasvl5a5cp9@4ax.com>
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
<....>
A midwife.
A hooker midwife who could start fires and cook fish, perhaps?
And make beer.
{{{{{{{{{{Michael Gray}}}}}}}}}}}
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
22 Mar 2007 05:30:58 PM |
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In article <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
Almost anyone can start a fire. Here's what you need:
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter (no, not that one).
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
(Here's your fire starter.)
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
And of course,
Maryanne.
Ginger.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
22 Mar 2007 09:59:55 PM |
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chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
In article <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
Almost anyone can start a fire. Here's what you need:
A doctor.
A GP preferably
A farmer.
Definitely.
A carpenter (no, not that one).
Yes.
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
(Here's your fire starter.)
Yes.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
Yes.
A chemist.
Maybe - only if the cook doesn't know how to brew some sort of
alcoholic beverage
A cook.
yes
A midwife
A botanist ... what plants are safe to eat or have medicinal properties
or are seasonings for the cook to use.
--
Pangur Ban
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways ......totally
worn-out..... shouting, 'Yeehaw.....what a ride!'"
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 02:37:55 AM |
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In article <mn.b4eb7d73a066d8fa.64065@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
In article <cmo4031s6fvtcpn8tjrjl5rngsmta5n5o6@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A sinking ship full of hundreds of people lies off the coast of a
known deserted island. The people on board think they're the
only human survivors left on the planet, and the ship's going down
fast. The only people who are likely to survive are those who are
chosen to get on the only lifeboat available.
The lifeboat can hold at least ten people, twenty at most.
What modern professions would most people vote on as necessary if
they actually wanted to make sure that the people on the life boat
would be best able to survive on the island, and eventually repopulate
the planet?
My own profession, a computer programmer, is not needed since
there aren't any computers on the island, so I don't mind being
excluded from the lifeboat. I'll try to swim to the island, but I
don't think I really deserve to be on board.
Assume for the scenario also, that no books are onboard. Everyone
on the lifeboat has to be able to perform their profession from their
memory alone. No help from books or computers...
So what are the top ten professions that people would choose that are
the most important?
I guess this is similar to the "Survivor" TV series in a way, but
without any connection to modern conveniences brought in by
the TV show.
For starters, I think a firestarter and a fisherman would be
at the top of the list. They can provide food and warmth and
a way to cook the food.
So what's next?
At the bottom of my list are the priests and astrologers and psychics
and fortune tellers and televangelists. I don't see a need for any of
them when it comes to trying to survive successfully, does anyone
else?
What I wonder is if the religious people would put a priest at the top
of the list, before a firestarter or fisherman?
Almost anyone can start a fire. Here's what you need:
A doctor.
A GP preferably
A farmer.
Definitely.
A carpenter (no, not that one).
Yes.
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
(Here's your fire starter.)
Yes.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
Yes.
A chemist.
Maybe - only if the cook doesn't know how to brew some sort of
alcoholic beverage
A cook.
yes
A midwife
A botanist ... what plants are safe to eat or have medicinal properties
or are seasonings for the cook to use.
Depending on what kind and quantity of animal life is on the island, I
might consider a zoologist. He/she might know which animals are good to
eat and which can kill you.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
23 Mar 2007 07:58:55 AM |
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Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:42:09 PM |
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After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
--
Pangur Ban
Nemo repente fuit turpissimus.
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 09:47:06 AM |
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In article <mn.bd167d73206f2460.64065@att.net>, Pangur Ban
<Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
I think Elroy specified between 10 & 20.
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
According to Elroy's parameters, I've got 4 or 5 more. I REALLY like
the idea of a boat builder, which somebody else suggested. Maybe a
marine biologist and a sailor, too.
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Mar 2007 11:08:38 AM |
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chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
I think Elroy specified between 10 & 20.
Yes, 20 at most, so Pangur can keep going...
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
According to Elroy's parameters, I've got 4 or 5 more. I REALLY like
the idea of a boat builder, which somebody else suggested. Maybe a
marine biologist and a sailor, too.
It would help if the marine biologist was also a sailor. I wonder how
many of them actually are...
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
Yes, I agree. The heart surgeon wouldn't have the tools needed in the
first place, until the blacksmith made them. You can't do open heart
surgery with clam shells, can you?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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24 Mar 2007 08:47:32 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:08:38 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <gkia03tplpt7tg6q88e7g06b5gpvtf8kpl@4ax.com>
chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
I think Elroy specified between 10 & 20.
Yes, 20 at most, so Pangur can keep going...
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
According to Elroy's parameters, I've got 4 or 5 more. I REALLY like
the idea of a boat builder, which somebody else suggested. Maybe a
marine biologist and a sailor, too.
It would help if the marine biologist was also a sailor. I wonder how
many of them actually are...
Well, there's the Skipper, and Gillgan too,
a millionaire (and his wife).
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
Yes, I agree. The heart surgeon wouldn't have the tools needed in the
first place, until the blacksmith made them. You can't do open heart
surgery with clam shells, can you?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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24 Mar 2007 12:52:51 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:42:09 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.bd167d73206f2460.64065@att.net>
After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
Especially if it were the egregious and insane Dr. Andrew Chung!
--
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 12:40:13 PM |
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Michael Gray explained :
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:42:09 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.bd167d73206f2460.64065@att.net>
After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
Especially if it were the egregious and insane Dr. Andrew Chung!
He never was considered (on my mental list anyway) as possible
survivor.
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Pangur Ban - funter
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24 Mar 2007 08:46:32 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:40:13 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
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Michael Gray explained :
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:42:09 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.bd167d73206f2460.64065@att.net>
After serious thinking Elroy Willis wrote :
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should know
best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
The list was 10, wasn't it? Which would be eliminated to add the
geologist?
A doctor.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A forest ranger or other outdoorsman (-woman), who can also fish.
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of the fire.)
Lots of muscle (4 or 5 strapping young men and women who don't mind
hard work).
A chemist.
A cook.
A midwife
A botanist
There are thirteen or fourteen on the list above .... who is
eliminated?
The cook and the forest ranger could be removed as cooking can be
learned and the botanist and geologist would have more extensive
knowledge than the ranger. One of the strapping folk (male or female)
could be the geologist, if he/she were a field geologist. They seem to
be very active folks.
A farmer.
A carpenter
A midwife
A botanist
A geologist
??????????????????????????
Then the question arises as to generalists as opposed to specialists.
I think a GP would be of more use than a heart surgeon, for example.
Especially if it were the egregious and insane Dr. Andrew Chung!
He never was considered (on my mental list anyway) as possible
survivor.
He is only partly dead, as is stands.
His body is still alive.
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23 Mar 2007 10:43:48 AM |
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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23 Mar 2007 09:46:57 PM |
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On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
--
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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24 Mar 2007 09:43:33 AM |
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In article <q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
For when the food runs out.
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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24 Mar 2007 08:45:05 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:43:33 -0700, chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote:
- Refer: <240320070743339388%chib@nospam.com>
In article <q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
For when the food runs out.
They come pre-seasoned with herbs.
--
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| User: "Smiler" |
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24 Mar 2007 09:56:17 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:uvkb03hfo0l21alp6r1eurk7afui3mho77@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:43:33 -0700, chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote:
- Refer: <240320070743339388%chib@nospam.com>
In article <q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
For when the food runs out.
They come pre-seasoned with herbs.
Do aromatherapists come pre-basted in oils?
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
25 Mar 2007 07:24:56 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:56:17 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <lxlNh.11810$5c2.2749@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:uvkb03hfo0l21alp6r1eurk7afui3mho77@4ax.com...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:43:33 -0700, chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote:
- Refer: <240320070743339388%chib@nospam.com>
In article <q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows what
to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
For when the food runs out.
They come pre-seasoned with herbs.
Do aromatherapists come pre-basted in oils?
Aroma the rapists?
--
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Mar 2007 10:58:05 AM |
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chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows
what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
For when the food runs out.
They could be used for manual labor until needed for food...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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24 Mar 2007 08:45:47 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:58:05 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
- Refer: <seia031jl1elghiv590kanqv7ojre918cj@4ax.com>
chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows
what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a historian,
specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
For when the food runs out.
They could be used for manual labor until needed for food...
What? New-agers actually do work??
Impossible.
--
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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24 Mar 2007 06:43:25 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows
what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a
historian, specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
The tarot reader needs to be accompanied by a paper maker and a
painter who can make new decks when the one(s) she brings gets too
tattered. Then you need a bureaucrat(sp?) to use up all that extra
paper. Did we have a chemist who can mix paints?
Keep making fun of my posts and I'll realign your chi energy.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
24 Mar 2007 08:33:21 AM |
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On 24 Mar 2007 11:43:25 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FD8A542770Clisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use of
the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who knows
what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a
historian, specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
The tarot reader needs to be accompanied by a paper maker and a
painter who can make new decks when the one(s) she brings gets too
tattered. Then you need a bureaucrat(sp?) to use up all that extra
paper. Did we have a chemist who can mix paints?
Keep making fun of my posts and I'll realign your chi energy.
<Salutes smartly>
Yes Ma'am, sir!
I will obey your orders and keep making fun of your posts, Ma'am, Sir!
Quartermaster!
1 (one) energy realigner, chi, for the use of.
Give it...
(Wait for it)
... to me!
On the double sonny!
What do you think this is? Fantasy Island?!?
Left right left right...
--
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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25 Mar 2007 11:10:47 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:or9a039893nocin695m1gqoefcgvkhr8cf@4ax.com:
On 24 Mar 2007 11:43:25 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FD8A542770Clisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use
of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who
knows what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a
historian, specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
The tarot reader needs to be accompanied by a paper maker and a
painter who can make new decks when the one(s) she brings gets
too tattered. Then you need a bureaucrat(sp?) to use up all that
extra paper. Did we have a chemist who can mix paints?
Keep making fun of my posts and I'll realign your chi energy.
<Salutes smartly>
Yes Ma'am, sir!
I will obey your orders and keep making fun of your posts, Ma'am,
Sir!
Quartermaster!
1 (one) energy realigner, chi, for the use of.
Give it...
(Wait for it)
.. to me!
On the double sonny!
What do you think this is? Fantasy Island?!?
Left right left right...
First thing monday morning I'm checking out a book on chi energy
from the library. (Ehhh.... the library opens at noon and then I'll
probably forget about this DST garbage, and I'll really need to ..
..... anyway) By tuesday evening you will not be able to find your
Swadhisthana chakra.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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25 Mar 2007 09:43:58 PM |
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On 25 Mar 2007 16:10:47 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FEC1D311193lisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:or9a039893nocin695m1gqoefcgvkhr8cf@4ax.com:
On 24 Mar 2007 11:43:25 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FD8A542770Clisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:q74903hoap6gbbi6va2qtqpeb1oa62nolr@4ax.com:
On 23 Mar 2007 15:43:48 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FCB316E7FFBlisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjj703p3ro5ge4i4rf3hcbqt5ndmava8h5@4ax.com:
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
chibiabos wrote after much deliberation:
Almost anyone can start a fire.
Not without a lighter or matches. It's not all that easy.
Here's what you need:
A mechanic, blacksmith or other metalworker. (To make use
of the fire.)
You are assuming the island has ores?
I think a geologist would be nice to have along. They should
know best where to look for ores, flint, etc..
Well, then you need an experimental archaeologist, one who
knows what to do with the flint when you find it. Or maybe a
historian, specializing in medieval technology.
How about a tarot reader, and a chi energy re-aligner?
The tarot reader needs to be accompanied by a paper maker and a
painter who can make new decks when the one(s) she brings gets
too tattered. Then you need a bureaucrat(sp?) to use up all that
extra paper. Did we have a chemist who can mix paints?
Keep making fun of my posts and I'll realign your chi energy.
<Salutes smartly>
Yes Ma'am, sir!
I will obey your orders and keep making fun of your posts, Ma'am,
Sir!
Quartermaster!
1 (one) energy realigner, chi, for the use of.
Give it...
(Wait for it)
.. to me!
On the double sonny!
What do you think this is? Fantasy Island?!?
Left right left right...
First thing monday morning I'm checking out a book on chi energy
from the library. (Ehhh.... the library opens at noon and then I'll
probably forget about this DST garbage, and I'll really need to ..
.... anyway) By tuesday evening you will not be able to find your
Swadhisthana chakra.
It probably fell down the back of the sofa.
--
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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26 Mar 2007 04:16:11 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:nqce03p98bm1vt05oslplt6h50did6050k@4ax.com:
First thing monday morning I'm checking out a book on chi energy
from the library. (Ehhh.... the library opens at noon and then I'll
probably forget about this DST garbage, and I'll really need to ..
.... anyway) By tuesday evening you will not be able to find your
Swadhisthana chakra.
It probably fell down the back of the sofa.
The chi energy alignement is working already? I haven't even started
yet, this must be really powerful stuff. :-)
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Lifeboat Scenario and Modern Professions |
27 Mar 2007 02:35:11 AM |
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On 26 Mar 2007 09:16:11 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98FF7B8729789lisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:nqce03p98bm1vt05oslplt6h50did6050k@4ax.com:
First thing monday morning I'm checking out a book on chi energy
from the library. (Ehhh.... the library opens at noon and then I'll
probably forget about this DST garbage, and I'll really need to ..
.... anyway) By tuesday evening you will not be able to find your
Swadhisthana chakra.
It probably fell down the back of the sofa.
The chi energy alignement is working already? I haven't even started
yet, this must be really powerful stuff. :-)
Chi energy is transcendent above the direction of time.
And transcendent above reason and especially evidence.
--
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