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http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002449.html
Alito: Where were you in '72?
A lot has been said this morning about Samuel Alito, President Bush's
nominee for the Supreme Court, and his impeccable legal resume. Well,
here's one portion of his resume we hope gets some very, very close
scrutiny over the next few weeks, before his confirmation hearings.
Where were you in '72?
Specifically, what were the circumstances of Alito getting a coveted
slot in the Army Reserves that year, while the Vietnam War was still
raging? Is Alito yet another "chickenhawk" who avoided the war and now
will be deciding on life-or-death cases involving our young men and
women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere today?
We don't know the answer -- it's only been about four hours since Bush
nominated Altio to replace Sandra Day O'Connor -- but it's a question
that needs to be asked, especially in light over the controversies
over how Bush and ***** Cheney avoided Vietnam.
Alito was born on April Fool's Day -- April 1, 1950. He entered
Princeton University as an undergrad in 1968, the year of the Tet
Offensive, at a time when there was still a college deferment for the
draft. That meant that full-time students working toward a degree were
not in jeopardy of being sent to Vietnam.
However, in 1971 Congress voted to essentially end the college
deferment, and by then the U.S. Selective Service had switched to a
draft lottery -- the higher your number, based upon your birthday, the
more likely that you would be drafted.
In February 1972, the service held its draft lottery for 1973
inductions -- and Alito, in essence, lost. His birthday, April 1, came
up as No. 12 that year, a certain ticket to induction, or so it
seemed.
In fact, the draft class of 1973 would never be called. The U.S.
involvement in Vietnam was substantially winding down in 1972, to just
49,000 troops from a high in the 1960s of more than half a million.
But as Richard Nixon's Christmas bombings that year showed, no one had
a crystal ball to predict the final American withdrawal at the start
of 1973.
By then, young Sam Alito -- who was graduating Princeton on his way to
Yale Law School -- was already in the Army Reserves, which, as this
article notes, "became a haven for those avoiding service in Vietnam."
The future judge served in the reserves until 1980 and left with the
rank of captain.
How did he get that coveted slot? The judge's father, Sam Alito Sr.,
was the director of New Jersey's Office of Legislative Services in
1972, so he surely knew some powerful politicians. Did someone make a
phone call? We're curious.
The Vietnam War was an immoral enterprise, just like the current
military misadventure, and many people -- including some who became
outstanding public servants -- took measures to avoid fighting it.
Still, it's troubling that so many of our current leadership is
comprised of "chickenhawks," eager to throw military weight around now
that their own generation's turn is over.
That list includes Bush, whose convoluted history with the Texas Air
National Guard during the Vietnam period has hovered over his
presidency, and Cheney, who had "other priorities" during Vietnam. And
in the next few years, we expect the Supreme Court will render key
rulings on cases involving their military actions in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Gitmo or elsewhere.
That's why we need to find out if Alito is a bird of the same feather.
NOTE: Since publishing this, several readers who were exposed to the
draft lottery and know more than we do said that Alito's exposure to
the draft lottery came in 1969, not 1972. That said, the number in
that lottery for April 1 was an also very high No. 35, also very much
in the inductee zone. So that doesn't make us any less interested in
the story of how he found his way into the Reserves.
UPDATE: From the AP:
Alito joined the Army ROTC at Princeton. In 1972, one year before the
military draft ended but while the Vietnam War was still raging, he
was one of nine in his class to receive a commission in the Army
Reserve. He was discharged in 1980 as a captain.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2025 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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01 Nov 2005 10:49:07 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002449.html
Alito: Where were you in '72?
A lot has been said this morning about Samuel Alito, President Bush's
nominee for the Supreme Court, and his impeccable legal resume. Well,
here's one portion of his resume we hope gets some very, very close
scrutiny over the next few weeks, before his confirmation hearings.
Where were you in '72?
Specifically, what were the circumstances of Alito getting a coveted
slot in the Army Reserves that year, while the Vietnam War was still
raging? Is Alito yet another "chickenhawk" who avoided the war and now
will be deciding on life-or-death cases involving our young men and
women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere today?
We don't know the answer -- it's only been about four hours since Bush
nominated Altio to replace Sandra Day O'Connor -- but it's a question
that needs to be asked, especially in light over the controversies
over how Bush and ***** Cheney avoided Vietnam.
Alito was born on April Fool's Day -- April 1, 1950. He entered
Princeton University as an undergrad in 1968, the year of the Tet
Offensive, at a time when there was still a college deferment for the
draft. That meant that full-time students working toward a degree were
not in jeopardy of being sent to Vietnam.
However, in 1971 Congress voted to essentially end the college
deferment, and by then the U.S. Selective Service had switched to a
draft lottery -- the higher your number, based upon your birthday, the
more likely that you would be drafted.
In February 1972, the service held its draft lottery for 1973
inductions -- and Alito, in essence, lost. His birthday, April 1, came
up as No. 12 that year, a certain ticket to induction, or so it
seemed.
In fact, the draft class of 1973 would never be called. The U.S.
involvement in Vietnam was substantially winding down in 1972, to just
49,000 troops from a high in the 1960s of more than half a million.
But as Richard Nixon's Christmas bombings that year showed, no one had
a crystal ball to predict the final American withdrawal at the start
of 1973.
By then, young Sam Alito -- who was graduating Princeton on his way to
Yale Law School -- was already in the Army Reserves, which, as this
article notes, "became a haven for those avoiding service in Vietnam."
The future judge served in the reserves until 1980 and left with the
rank of captain.
How did he get that coveted slot? The judge's father, Sam Alito Sr.,
was the director of New Jersey's Office of Legislative Services in
1972, so he surely knew some powerful politicians. Did someone make a
phone call? We're curious.
The Vietnam War was an immoral enterprise, just like the current
military misadventure, and many people -- including some who became
outstanding public servants -- took measures to avoid fighting it.
Still, it's troubling that so many of our current leadership is
comprised of "chickenhawks," eager to throw military weight around now
that their own generation's turn is over.
That list includes Bush, whose convoluted history with the Texas Air
National Guard during the Vietnam period has hovered over his
presidency, and Cheney, who had "other priorities" during Vietnam. And
in the next few years, we expect the Supreme Court will render key
rulings on cases involving their military actions in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Gitmo or elsewhere.
That's why we need to find out if Alito is a bird of the same feather.
NOTE: Since publishing this, several readers who were exposed to the
draft lottery and know more than we do said that Alito's exposure to
the draft lottery came in 1969, not 1972. That said, the number in
that lottery for April 1 was an also very high No. 35, also very much
in the inductee zone. So that doesn't make us any less interested in
the story of how he found his way into the Reserves.
UPDATE: From the AP:
Alito joined the Army ROTC at Princeton. In 1972, one year before the
military draft ended but while the Vietnam War was still raging, he
was one of nine in his class to receive a commission in the Army
Reserve. He was discharged in 1980 as a captain.
Yang
Hey Yangster, you should write headlines for the Enquirer! "Liberal Born
Without Brain! Receives Brain From Alien Donor!"
Brutus
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01 Nov 2005 07:49:50 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:14:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002449.html
Alito: Where were you in '72?
A lot has been said this morning about Samuel Alito, President Bush's
nominee for the Supreme Court, and his impeccable legal resume. Well,
here's one portion of his resume we hope gets some very, very close
scrutiny over the next few weeks, before his confirmation hearings.
Where were you in '72?
Specifically, what were the circumstances of Alito getting a coveted
slot in the Army Reserves that year, while the Vietnam War was still
raging? Is Alito yet another "chickenhawk" who avoided the war and now
will be deciding on life-or-death cases involving our young men and
women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere today?
Hey GAYang, you ran from Iraq. Don't point fingers.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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02 Nov 2005 02:32:12 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:49:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:14:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002449.html
Alito: Where were you in '72?
A lot has been said this morning about Samuel Alito, President Bush's
nominee for the Supreme Court, and his impeccable legal resume. Well,
here's one portion of his resume we hope gets some very, very close
scrutiny over the next few weeks, before his confirmation hearings.
Where were you in '72?
Specifically, what were the circumstances of Alito getting a coveted
slot in the Army Reserves that year, while the Vietnam War was still
raging? Is Alito yet another "chickenhawk" who avoided the war and now
will be deciding on life-or-death cases involving our young men and
women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere today?
Hey GAYang, you ran from Iraq. Don't point fingers.
Hey Pedophile Earl Weber; see my sig.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2025 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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02 Nov 2005 09:57:37 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:32:12 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:49:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:14:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002449.html
Alito: Where were you in '72?
A lot has been said this morning about Samuel Alito, President Bush's
nominee for the Supreme Court, and his impeccable legal resume. Well,
here's one portion of his resume we hope gets some very, very close
scrutiny over the next few weeks, before his confirmation hearings.
Where were you in '72?
Specifically, what were the circumstances of Alito getting a coveted
slot in the Army Reserves that year, while the Vietnam War was still
raging? Is Alito yet another "chickenhawk" who avoided the war and now
will be deciding on life-or-death cases involving our young men and
women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere today?
Hey GAYang, you ran from Iraq. Don't point fingers.
Hey Pedophile Earl Weber; see my sig.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2025 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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02 Nov 2005 02:07:11 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 10:57:37 -0500, torresD
<torresd@N0SPAM.D0RIS.0RG> wrote:
That's silly...even for you.
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02 Nov 2005 04:06:31 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:32:12 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Hey GAYang, you ran from Iraq. Don't point fingers.
Hey Pedophile Earl Weber; see my sig.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do. I
made weapons. You just ran, ran, ran, and you're still running.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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02 Nov 2005 07:25:59 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 04:06:31 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:32:12 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Hey GAYang, you ran from Iraq. Don't point fingers.
Hey Pedophile Earl Weber; see my sig.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do. I
made weapons. You just ran, ran, ran, and you're still running.
But PedophilEarl Weber, you pusied out of the war, just like your hero
AWOL. See sig.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2027 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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02 Nov 2005 05:41:59 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:25:59 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do. I
made weapons. You just ran, ran, ran, and you're still running.
But PedophilEarl Weber, you pusied out of the war, just like your hero
AWOL. See sig.
I couldn't do such a thing. I served my country during time of war and did
exactly what my country told me to do - make weapons.
But you, you bum, you just ran and ran and ran some more. Gee, you just won't
do anything for your country, will you, you bum?
Call 1-800-marines. I hear they have something for you. It smells like tar and
chicken.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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03 Nov 2005 02:47:01 AM |
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in article jgjim11b5luv91l33itk493r9ips9eum82@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/2/05 6:41 PM:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:25:59 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do.
I
made weapons. You just ran, ran, ran, and you're still running.
But PedophilEarl Weber, you pusied out of the war, just like your hero
AWOL. See sig.
I couldn't do such a thing. I served my country during time of war and did
exactly what my country told me to do - make weapons.
But you, you bum, you just ran and ran and ran some more. Gee, you just
won't
do anything for your country, will you, you bum?
If all my country will do for me is a dreary and low paying assembly
line job, why bother?
Paul
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03 Nov 2005 05:58:04 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:47:01 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
in article jgjim11b5luv91l33itk493r9ips9eum82@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/2/05 6:41 PM:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:25:59 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do.
I
made weapons. You just ran, ran, ran, and you're still running.
But PedophilEarl Weber, you pusied out of the war, just like your hero
AWOL. See sig.
I couldn't do such a thing. I served my country during time of war and did
exactly what my country told me to do - make weapons.
But you, you bum, you just ran and ran and ran some more. Gee, you just
won't
do anything for your country, will you, you bum?
If all my country will do for me is a dreary and low paying assembly
line job, why bother?
Paul
You didn't in the first place.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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03 Nov 2005 08:12:31 PM |
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in article mv8lm1lepfj14bs0rl9lepruh9ii550sru@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/3/05 6:58 PM:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:47:01 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
in article jgjim11b5luv91l33itk493r9ips9eum82@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/2/05 6:41 PM:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:25:59 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to
do.
I
made weapons. You just ran, ran, ran, and you're still running.
But PedophilEarl Weber, you pusied out of the war, just like your hero
AWOL. See sig.
I couldn't do such a thing. I served my country during time of war and did
exactly what my country told me to do - make weapons.
But you, you bum, you just ran and ran and ran some more. Gee, you just
won't
do anything for your country, will you, you bum?
If all my country will do for me is a dreary and low paying assembly
line job, why bother?
Paul
You didn't in the first place.
And your point is...WHAT, besides located at the top of your head?
Paul
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP, The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 04:53:13 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:12:31 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
If all my country will do for me is a dreary and low paying assembly
line job, why bother?
Paul
You didn't in the first place.
And your point is...WHAT, besides located at the top of your head?
Paul
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place, atheist.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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04 Nov 2005 04:53:33 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:53:13 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<ghpnm1tfru0toglpkgo543po47bvh9nsc2@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:12:31 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
If all my country will do for me is a dreary and low paying assembly
line job, why bother?
Paul
You didn't in the first place.
And your point is...WHAT, besides located at the top of your head?
Paul
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place, atheist.
As far as I can tell, it is self-described Christians who are destroying
the US.
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04 Nov 2005 05:18:00 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:53:33 -0600, David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>
wrote:
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place, atheist.
As far as I can tell, it is self-described Christians who are destroying
the US.
Really!! I didn't know we were being destroyed. What do you see happening?
I see us returning to sanity - end to abortions, getting rid of drugs, return to
sanctity of marriage and of one man and one woman. Grades over touchdowns. You
know the things I'm talking about.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP, The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 05:22:34 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:18:00 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<urqnm1phpos95c0n7pp1amvuf05ksg2m3k@4ax.com>:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:53:33 -0600, David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>
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No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place, atheist.
As far as I can tell, it is self-described Christians who are destroying
the US.
Really!! I didn't know we were being destroyed. What do you see happening?
I see us returning to sanity - end to abortions,
There is absolutely no way that Republicans will ever take ending
abortions seriously. They love this issue.
getting rid of drugs,
Another great issue that can be fought forever without winning it.
return to sanctity of marriage
I'm not aware of any attempts to make divorce nearly impossible to get.
and of one man and one woman.
Keep that bigotry against gays alive.
Grades over touchdowns.
As if.
You know the things I'm talking about.
Totally bogus talking points that the Republicans use to sucker those
who don't know what they are doing into voting against their own
interests so the rich can get richer and the rest can suffer at
Wal-Mart.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP,The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
05 Nov 2005 07:10:37 PM |
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in article r4rnm117con072h458m5ilnmj7gbr89crv@4ax.com, David Jensen at
david@dajensen-family.com wrote on 11/4/05 6:22 PM:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:18:00 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<urqnm1phpos95c0n7pp1amvuf05ksg2m3k@4ax.com>:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:53:33 -0600, David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>
wrote:
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place,
atheist.
As far as I can tell, it is self-described Christians who are destroying
the US.
Really!! I didn't know we were being destroyed. What do you see happening?
I see us returning to sanity - end to abortions,
There is absolutely no way that Republicans will ever take ending
abortions seriously. They love this issue.
getting rid of drugs,
Another great issue that can be fought forever without winning it.
return to sanctity of marriage
I'm not aware of any attempts to make divorce nearly impossible to get.
and of one man and one woman.
Keep that bigotry against gays alive.
Grades over touchdowns.
As if.
You know the things I'm talking about.
Totally bogus talking points that the Republicans use to sucker those
who don't know what they are doing into voting against their own
interests so the rich can get richer and the rest can suffer at
Wal-Mart.
That may not work, David...Duke keeps telling us that Catholic God
has made him so wealthy, he may not even know what Wal-Mart IS.
Paul
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP, The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 11:55:50 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:53:33 -0600, David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>
wrote:
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place, atheist.
As far as I can tell, it is self-described Christians who are destroying
the US.
Really!! I didn't know we were being destroyed.
Poverty is up, wages are down, lifespans are shinking, the US is
losing its competitive edge.
I see us returning to sanity
Like the Taliban.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP,The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 10:22:25 PM |
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in article urqnm1phpos95c0n7pp1amvuf05ksg2m3k@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/4/05 6:18 PM:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:53:33 -0600, David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com>
wrote:
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place,
atheist.
As far as I can tell, it is self-described Christians who are destroying
the US.
Really!! I didn't know we were being destroyed. What do you see happening?
I see us returning to sanity - pretending we have money and status.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP,The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 10:20:29 PM |
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in article ghpnm1tfru0toglpkgo543po47bvh9nsc2@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/4/05 5:53 PM:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:12:31 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
If all my country will do for me is a dreary and low paying assembly
line job, why bother?
Paul
You didn't in the first place.
And your point is...WHAT, besides located at the top of your head?
Paul
No, you didn't bother to care about your country in the first place, atheist.
Like God won't bother to care about you in Heaven...
Paul
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP,The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
02 Nov 2005 06:45:38 AM |
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in article 7j3hm1p6jeubc7vvdvr2k8fpmprb8mlhqf@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 11/2/05 5:06 AM:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:32:12 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Hey GAYang, you ran from Iraq. Don't point fingers.
Hey Pedophile Earl Weber; see my sig.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do. I
made weapons.
Can you tell us how they return the favor now...other than letting
your Catholic church feed you (the only REAL meals you have, as well as
pie-in-the-sky)?
Paul
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP, The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
02 Nov 2005 05:38:50 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 07:45:38 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
But GAYang, I served my country in time of war as my country told me to do. I
made weapons.
Can you tell us how they return the favor now...other than letting
your Catholic church feed you (the only REAL meals you have, as well as
pie-in-the-sky)?
Say what? Do the know the time of day?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP, The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 01:04:21 AM |
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Watching the left try to play the "chickenhawk" card when they a) would
never join the military themselves, and b) killed themselves to defend
Clinton's "service," is absolutely hilarious. Try not proving yourself
an utter hypocrite everytime you press send, dipshit.
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002449.html
Alito: Where were you in '72?
A lot has been said this morning about Samuel Alito, President Bush's
nominee for the Supreme Court, and his impeccable legal resume. Well,
here's one portion of his resume we hope gets some very, very close
scrutiny over the next few weeks, before his confirmation hearings.
Where were you in '72?
Specifically, what were the circumstances of Alito getting a coveted
slot in the Army Reserves that year, while the Vietnam War was still
raging? Is Alito yet another "chickenhawk" who avoided the war and now
will be deciding on life-or-death cases involving our young men and
women fighting in Iraq and elsewhere today?
We don't know the answer -- it's only been about four hours since Bush
nominated Altio to replace Sandra Day O'Connor -- but it's a question
that needs to be asked, especially in light over the controversies
over how Bush and ***** Cheney avoided Vietnam.
Alito was born on April Fool's Day -- April 1, 1950. He entered
Princeton University as an undergrad in 1968, the year of the Tet
Offensive, at a time when there was still a college deferment for the
draft. That meant that full-time students working toward a degree were
not in jeopardy of being sent to Vietnam.
However, in 1971 Congress voted to essentially end the college
deferment, and by then the U.S. Selective Service had switched to a
draft lottery -- the higher your number, based upon your birthday, the
more likely that you would be drafted.
In February 1972, the service held its draft lottery for 1973
inductions -- and Alito, in essence, lost. His birthday, April 1, came
up as No. 12 that year, a certain ticket to induction, or so it
seemed.
In fact, the draft class of 1973 would never be called. The U.S.
involvement in Vietnam was substantially winding down in 1972, to just
49,000 troops from a high in the 1960s of more than half a million.
But as Richard Nixon's Christmas bombings that year showed, no one had
a crystal ball to predict the final American withdrawal at the start
of 1973.
By then, young Sam Alito -- who was graduating Princeton on his way to
Yale Law School -- was already in the Army Reserves, which, as this
article notes, "became a haven for those avoiding service in Vietnam."
The future judge served in the reserves until 1980 and left with the
rank of captain.
How did he get that coveted slot? The judge's father, Sam Alito Sr.,
was the director of New Jersey's Office of Legislative Services in
1972, so he surely knew some powerful politicians. Did someone make a
phone call? We're curious.
The Vietnam War was an immoral enterprise, just like the current
military misadventure, and many people -- including some who became
outstanding public servants -- took measures to avoid fighting it.
Still, it's troubling that so many of our current leadership is
comprised of "chickenhawks," eager to throw military weight around now
that their own generation's turn is over.
That list includes Bush, whose convoluted history with the Texas Air
National Guard during the Vietnam period has hovered over his
presidency, and Cheney, who had "other priorities" during Vietnam. And
in the next few years, we expect the Supreme Court will render key
rulings on cases involving their military actions in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Gitmo or elsewhere.
That's why we need to find out if Alito is a bird of the same feather.
NOTE: Since publishing this, several readers who were exposed to the
draft lottery and know more than we do said that Alito's exposure to
the draft lottery came in 1969, not 1972. That said, the number in
that lottery for April 1 was an also very high No. 35, also very much
in the inductee zone. So that doesn't make us any less interested in
the story of how he found his way into the Reserves.
UPDATE: From the AP:
Alito joined the Army ROTC at Princeton. In 1972, one year before the
military draft ended but while the Vietnam War was still raging, he
was one of nine in his class to receive a commission in the Army
Reserve. He was discharged in 1980 as a captain.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2025 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Like AWOL, SCOTUS Nominee Pussied Out of Vietnam Too (GOP, The Party of Treason and Cowardance) |
04 Nov 2005 11:56:32 PM |
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<omarenoryt@aol.com> wrote:
Watching the left try to play the "chickenhawk" card when they a) would
Lying about the left is a classic tactic of the right when trying to
excuse their own stinking hypocrisy.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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