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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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25 Mar 2006 01:09:53 PM |
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LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
Because if corruption is outlawed, only outlaws are corrupt.
Oh wait, that's the idea.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/DeLay_license_to_carry_concealed_handgun_0324.html
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2318 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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| User: "Thandarr" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
25 Mar 2006 10:44:42 PM |
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I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal, a
citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just because
he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty, even if he's
guilty as hell. This is wrong.
Thandarr
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
26 Mar 2006 09:16:32 AM |
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On 25 Mar 2006 20:44:42 -0800, "Thandarr" <thandarr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal, a
citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just because
he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty, even if he's
guilty as hell. This is wrong.
The bar for having a concealed weapons permit is a lot higher, from
what I understand.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2318 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
26 Mar 2006 02:41:10 AM |
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Thandarr wrote:
I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal, a
citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just because
he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty, even if
he's guilty as hell. This is wrong.
Thandarr
He's innocent until proven guilty in court. Outside the court he *must* be
assumed guilty or an arrest could not be made unless Texas penal laws are
compelty different from most states.
Taking away a permit from a person that has been charged with a felony is a
most reasonable act. Had he stuck a gun in your face and robbed you, would
you object?
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| User: "Cut off his head! We will call on the people to pull him into pieces so theres nothing left!" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
26 Mar 2006 12:26:47 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote...
Thandarr wrote:
I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal, a
citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just because
he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty, even if
he's guilty as hell. This is wrong.
Thandarr
He's innocent until proven guilty in court. Outside the court he *must* be
assumed guilty or an arrest could not be made unless Texas penal laws are
compelty different from most states.
Taking away a permit from a person that has been charged with a felony is a
most reasonable act. Had he stuck a gun in your face and robbed you, would
you object?
But one could ask why money laundering is in the same category as
armed robbery. Every time a minor crime gets enough attention,
politicians respond by passing a law making it a felony. Nevada
tried that by making simple marijuana possession a felony, causing
countless people's lives to be ruined forever as convicted felons
because they were caught smoking a joint. The legal system doesn't
distinguish between a pot-smoking felon, a money-laundering felon,
or a serial-raping felon - all are equally bad and all deprive you
of employment and the right to vote forever and ever.
The only thing I am happy about in this case is that Tom DeLay
probably led the crusade to make money laundering a felony - most
likely arguing that it was used by terrorists and drug traffickers.
And of course by politicians trying to illegally finance their
campaigns, so Tom DeLay should be treated just the same.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
26 Mar 2006 02:29:02 PM |
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Cut off his head! We will call on the people to pull him into pieces so
there's nothing left! wrote:
Mike Painter wrote...
Thandarr wrote:
I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal,
a citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just
because he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty,
even if he's guilty as hell. This is wrong.
Thandarr
He's innocent until proven guilty in court. Outside the court he
*must* be assumed guilty or an arrest could not be made unless Texas
penal laws are compelty different from most states.
Taking away a permit from a person that has been charged with a
felony is a most reasonable act. Had he stuck a gun in your face
and robbed you, would you object?
But one could ask why money laundering is in the same category as
armed robbery.
The difference between a felony and a misdemeanor is that you can go to a
state prison for more than a year. It is considered a "serious" crime.
In some cases it has a few loopholes.
You me and Fred go into a store in California.
Fred has decided that he will steal a candy bar.
After we get in I decide to steal a stereo valued at $299.95
You decide, after we get in to steal $101.00 worth of artichokes.
We all get caught and get a hanging judge.
I'm charged with petty theft and get 30 days in county. What I took was
worth less than $400.00.
You are charged with grand theft and get 2 years in the state pen. Yours is
grand theft, a felony because the penal code specifically says "b)
Notwithstanding subdivision (a), grand theft is committed in
any of the following cases:
(1) (A) When domestic fowls, avocados, olives, citrus or deciduous
fruits, other fruits, vegetables, nuts, artichokes, or other farm
crops are taken of a value exceeding one hundred dollars ($100).
Fred gets five years for burglary (entry with intent)
That one is obviously hard to prove but several years ago a pair were
convicted of it while shop lifting because they took stuff out to the car,
then returned for more.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
26 Mar 2006 12:34:53 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:26:47 GMT, "Cut off his head! We will call on
the people to pull him into pieces so there's nothing left!"
<izlamist@insane.com> wrote:
Mike Painter wrote...
Thandarr wrote:
I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal, a
citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just because
he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty, even if
he's guilty as hell. This is wrong.
Thandarr
He's innocent until proven guilty in court. Outside the court he *must* be
assumed guilty or an arrest could not be made unless Texas penal laws are
compelty different from most states.
Taking away a permit from a person that has been charged with a felony is a
most reasonable act. Had he stuck a gun in your face and robbed you, would
you object?
But one could ask why money laundering is in the same category as
armed robbery.
Texas justice... I think...
Every time a minor crime gets enough attention,
politicians respond by passing a law making it a felony. Nevada
tried that by making simple marijuana possession a felony, causing
countless people's lives to be ruined forever as convicted felons
because they were caught smoking a joint. The legal system doesn't
distinguish between a pot-smoking felon, a money-laundering felon,
or a serial-raping felon - all are equally bad and all deprive you
of employment and the right to vote forever and ever.
The only thing I am happy about in this case is that Tom DeLay
probably led the crusade to make money laundering a felony - most
likely arguing that it was used by terrorists and drug traffickers.
And of course by politicians trying to illegally finance their
campaigns, so Tom DeLay should be treated just the same.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2318 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.
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| User: "Thandarr" |
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| Title: Re: LOL! Texas Revokes Tom DeLay's Concealed Gun License |
26 Mar 2006 06:58:24 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Thandarr wrote:
I don't like Tom DeLay at all, but that doesn't make this any more
tolerable. Setting aside whether Texas ought to be handing out
concealed weapon permits at all, as long as such permits are legal, a
citizen should not be deprived of his right to hold one just because
he's an ACCUSED felon. He's innocent until proven guilty, even if
he's guilty as hell. This is wrong.
Thandarr
He's innocent until proven guilty in court. Outside the court he *must* be
assumed guilty or an arrest could not be made unless Texas penal laws are
compelty different from most states.
Taking away a permit from a person that has been charged with a felony is a
most reasonable act. Had he stuck a gun in your face and robbed you, would
you object?
I'd probably object, IF I were the victim of a violent crime, but that
doesn't mean I'd be right. It's kind of like the question they asked
Michael Dukakis in the debate so many years ago, if someone brutally
murdered your wife, would you want the person to get the death penalty.
Dukakis said no since he didn't believe in the death penalty. I'd
have said, "Yes, of course I'd want him to get the death penalty, if he
was allowed to be that lucky, I'd personally want to kill him, slowly
and painfully, but that wouldn't make it good public policy."
Actually, I'd have probably recommended that the questioner perform
autopederasty, but that's why I wouldn't exactly be running for
president or anything else at all.
Seriously, I'd guess there's some procedure for revoking the concealed
weapon permit of someone who commits a violent act, but that ought to
involve actually proving that the person did it, not just that a
prosecutor managed to get an indictment. Maybe the burden of proof
ought to be less than a full blown criminal trial, but they ought to
have to prove something. As of now nothing has been proved.
Instead, it looks like, IF DeLay did what he's accused of, I WAS one of
the victims. So were you. Nevertheless, that shouldn't keep us from
convicting first, and punishing later.
It's somewhat ironic that it is this very attitude that DeLay and his
cohorts might consider liberal softness on crime. So be it.
Thandarr
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