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"Karl Martin" |
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10 Jul 2004 01:35:40 PM |
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Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
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| User: "Dont Clayton And Then Drive!" |
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 06:41:40 PM |
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"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
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Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
"Telling Lies For God" by Ian Plimer
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 02:48:33 PM |
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"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
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Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
The most readable one I've seen is titled, "Who Wrote the Bible?" I don't
remember who wrote it, though. Someone around here probably does.
If you like historical writers, Thomas Paine (wrote a rabble rousing tract,
"Common Sense,"
http://www.bartleby.com/133/ which is credited with getting American
colonists squarely on the side of independance) wrote a marvellous book,
"Age of Reason," available online at
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/age_of_reason/part1.
html
Robert Ingersoll wrote some good stuff in excellent 19th century prose.
Good for general reading because of his excellent writing style, if nothing
else. Some of his stuff is availble free on the internet, I think it's at
the Internet Infidels website.
A good cataloge of bible problems is "Deceptions and Myths of the Bible," by
Archer Gleason, I think.
For analysis of the nitty gritty fundamentalist doctrine, there's none
better, IMHO, than Farrell Till's work, and again, I think his stuff is
available at the Internet Infidels website.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 05:00:25 PM |
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wrote:
"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
The most readable one I've seen is titled, "Who Wrote the Bible?" I
don't remember who wrote it, though. Someone around here probably
does.
Richard Elliott Friedman wrote it. But it is not anti-biblical, nor
anti-religion. It uses the same methods to examine that book as might be
used to examine any other book and it maintains *honesty*. When ALL the
evidence says at least four sources for the first five books and no evidence
for a Moses, then that evidence is presaented.
"The Ten Commandments" by A. Powell Davies is good but old and hard to find.
The Jesus Puzzle" http://www.jesuspuzzle.com/ and the book is on Amazon.
"The bible unearthed" (I think)
These are for the most part written by honest christians or jews who put the
evidence before what they want to find out.
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| User: "AnotherObserver®" |
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 05:48:27 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
tock@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
The most readable one I've seen is titled, "Who Wrote the Bible?" I
don't remember who wrote it, though. Someone around here probably
does.
Richard Elliott Friedman wrote it. But it is not anti-biblical, nor
anti-religion. It uses the same methods to examine that book as might be
used to examine any other book and it maintains *honesty*. When ALL the
evidence says at least four sources for the first five books and no evidence
for a Moses, then that evidence is presaented.
"The Ten Commandments" by A. Powell Davies is good but old and hard to find.
The Jesus Puzzle" http://www.jesuspuzzle.com/ and the book is on Amazon.
"The bible unearthed" (I think)
These are for the most part written by honest christians or jews who put the
evidence before what they want to find out.
The original poster's use of "anti-biblical" leaves me dumbfounded.
Heck, just reading the paradoxical babble should be enough for anyone
to see through the holes in it. I wonder why people need books to
tell them that the good book is no good...
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Davidwd
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alt.atheism
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| User: "Robert Schneider" |
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 02:21:21 PM |
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"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
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| User: "Sara Brum" |
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10 Jul 2004 01:47:35 PM |
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"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
Asimov's Guide to the Bible : The Old and New Testaments (2Vols. in One)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/051734582X/qid=1089485064/sr=1
-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6631454-5964722?v=glance&s=books
or
http://tinyurl.com/2vbf4
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| User: "Eric Pepke" |
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10 Jul 2004 07:07:21 PM |
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"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message news:<2las0gFao0hvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
Asimov's Guide to the Bible : The Old and New Testaments (2Vols. in One)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/051734582X/qid=1089485064/sr=1
-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6631454-5964722?v=glance&s=books
or
http://tinyurl.com/2vbf4
Asimov's Guide to the Bible is very good, but it's fairly neutral.
It's just a guide to the Bible, and it isn't particularly about knocking
it down.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 07:24:36 PM |
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(Eric Pepke) wrote in
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"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message
news:<2las0gFao0hvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
Asimov's Guide to the Bible : The Old and New Testaments (2Vols. in
One)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/051734582X/qid=
108948506
4/sr=1 -1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6631454-5964722?v=glance&s=books
or
http://tinyurl.com/2vbf4
Asimov's Guide to the Bible is very good, but it's fairly neutral.
It's just a guide to the Bible, and it isn't particularly about
knocking it down.
It doesn't need to be, it ends up knocking it down anyway.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "AnotherObserver®" |
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10 Jul 2004 07:19:13 PM |
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(Eric Pepke) wrote:
"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message news:<2las0gFao0hvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Karl Martin" <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
Asimov's Guide to the Bible : The Old and New Testaments (2Vols. in One)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/051734582X/qid=1089485064/sr=1
-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6631454-5964722?v=glance&s=books
or
http://tinyurl.com/2vbf4
Asimov's Guide to the Bible is very good, but it's fairly neutral.
It's just a guide to the Bible, and it isn't particularly about knocking
it down.
Does the darn thing really need anything beside itself to knock it
down?!
--
Davidwd
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alt.atheism
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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10 Jul 2004 08:59:02 PM |
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In article <406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com>,
(Karl Martin) wrote:
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
"The Bible Unearthed"
"The View From Nebo"
"The Jesus Puzzle"
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: Looking for an anti-biblical resource |
10 Jul 2004 09:03:54 PM |
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Karl Martin <karldmartin@msn.com> wrote in message
news:406dd2aa.0407101035.4e9d38b@posting.google.com...
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
Try "The Bible".
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| User: "LP" |
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10 Jul 2004 02:14:13 PM |
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On 10 Jul 2004 11:35:40 -0700, (Karl Martin)
wrote:
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
The leading publisher in philosophy, popular science, and critical
thinking, Prometheus Books has more than 1,500 books in print.
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http://www.prometheusbooks.com/groups/group_2.html
Titles of books in the "Biblical Criticism" section:
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Deconstructing Jesus
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Modern Spiritualities
More Steve Allen on the Bible, Religion, and Morality
Mythology's Last Gods
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Paul
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The Bad News Bible
The Christ
The Christ Myth
The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth
The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy
The Gospel and the Church
The Gospel Time Bomb
The Great Deception
The Historical Evidence for Jesus
The Jesus Idea
The Mind of the Bible-Believer
The Mystery of the Kingdom of God
The Old Faith & The New
The Origins of Christianity
The Secret Gospels
The Supernatural, The Occult, and The Bible
The Test of Love
What is the Bible?
What the Bible Really Says
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Jul 2004 03:43:11 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:35:40 -0700, Karl Martin wrote:
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
Archaeology
Biology
Physics
Mathematics
Geology
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| User: "The Artist currently known as cpt" |
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12 Jul 2004 03:45:00 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.12.20.43.11.11824@localhost.localdomain...
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:35:40 -0700, Karl Martin wrote:
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
Archaeology
Biology
Physics
Mathematics
Geology
You won't find anything accurate so save your beer money.
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12 Jul 2004 05:45:37 PM |
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"The Artist currently known as cpt" <cpt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7LCIc.110$So5.27966@news.uswest.net...
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.12.20.43.11.11824@localhost.localdomain...
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:35:40 -0700, Karl Martin wrote:
Hi. I am looking for a book that provides an atheistic or
non-believing perspective on the historicity, authenticity, and
reliability of the Bible. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
Thanks for your help.
--Karl Martin
Archaeology
Biology
Physics
Mathematics
Geology
Try this book: Holy Bible. Read it and you should find plenty of reasons not
to believe it is a historical, authentic, nor reliable document.
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ArWeLiterate
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