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Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/16/06 | Gudrun Schultz
Posted on 07/17/2006 4:48:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
"Stem cell therapy has the potential to treat a multitude of diseases
and illnesses which up until now have been labelled 'incurable,'"
the pair said in a statement released by the University of California.
"Continuing advances in stem cell medicine will change all of our
lives for the better."
Despite such assumptions, research using human embryonic stem cells has
so far been unsuccessful. All of the breakthroughs using stem cells for
medical therapy have so far been found through the use of adult stem
cells-cells obtained directly from the individual in need of therapy
and used successfully to treat a growing list of serious illnesses.
Embryonic stem cell research has received international criticism,
including disapproval by the US government, because the research
involves the killing of human embryos in the very earliest stages of
development. The Catholic Church, in particular, has condemned any
research that involves the use or destruction of the human embryo as
intrinsically immoral.
Ironically, despite the undercurrent of traditional morality that forms
the foundation of The Lord of the Rings trilogy-Tolkien was a devout
Roman Catholic-the film has been used as a springboard to promote
policies in direct opposition to Catholic teaching.
British actor Ian McKellen, who portrayed the wizard Gandalf in the
film, has used the international recognition generated by the film to
further his promotion of homosexuality, campaigning for homosexual
"marriage" in Britain.
See previous LifeSiteNews coverage:
Lord of the Rings Star Using Fame from Film to Promote Homosexual
"Marriage"
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/may/06050409.html ;
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18 Jul 2006 11:26:24 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Subject: Lord Of The Rings Movie Profits Used To Support Embryonic
Stem Cell Research
Cool. I'll watch all three movies back to back to back this weekend to
celebrate.
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Doc Smartass
Investigate.
Indict.
Impeach.
Imprison.
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| User: "Kathryn" |
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19 Jul 2006 01:05:03 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Excellent. Glad to see my money being put to good use.
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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18 Jul 2006 10:37:28 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Good.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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18 Jul 2006 11:16:22 PM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Good.
That makes me feel even better about the ticket price!
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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19 Jul 2006 12:34:26 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Good.
That makes me feel even better about the ticket price!
Damn I'm glad I decided to see them all more than once.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Agent Smith" |
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14 Aug 2006 11:32:27 AM |
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Lord Of The Rings Movie Profits Used To Support Embryonic Stem Cell
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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19 Jul 2006 05:57:23 AM |
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In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
Good for them. Makes me like Jackson even more.
"Stem cell therapy has the potential to treat a multitude of diseases
and illnesses which up until now have been labelled 'incurable,'"
the pair said in a statement released by the University of California.
"Continuing advances in stem cell medicine will change all of our
lives for the better."
Despite such assumptions, research using human embryonic stem cells has
so far been unsuccessful.
Yeah, and Jonas Salk was unsuccessful, too. Until he succeeded, that is.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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19 Jul 2006 02:49:56 AM |
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In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Interesting. And that was a Christian film, too. Makes you think... or
perhaps not, as the case may be.
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| User: "Susan Bartholomew" |
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19 Jul 2006 06:03:52 AM |
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*nemo* wrote:
In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Interesting. And that was a Christian film, too. Makes you think... or
perhaps not, as the case may be.
It was??
I've heard that some see Christian themes in it, but I don't think it's
an overtly Christian film; Tolkien himself intensely disliked allegory
and always firmly stated that LotR was not intended to be allegorical.
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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23 Jul 2006 01:54:51 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:49:56 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Interesting. And that was a Christian film, too.
Because it was based on a book by an author who was a Christian? I
don't think so.
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| User: "johac" |
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19 Jul 2006 12:00:18 AM |
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In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Good for them!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Invid Fan" |
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18 Jul 2006 09:38:04 PM |
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In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
I'd gather by now all the Lord of the Rings money is invested, and this
is King Kong money.
--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total *****. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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19 Jul 2006 12:40:02 AM |
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"Invid Fan" <invid@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:180720062238045992%invid@localnet.com...
In article <1153276150.771198.63370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
If this is true, then good for Peter Jackson. I thought that
his Ring Trilogy movies were marvelous. If he is donating
profits from these and other movies he's made, then he is
a wonderful human being who doesn't just care about the
future of humany, but does something about it.
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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I'd gather by now all the Lord of the Rings money is invested, and this
is King Kong money.
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Chris Mack "Refugee, total *****. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
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19 Jul 2006 03:46:06 PM |
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On 18 Jul 2006 19:29:10 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
Three cheers for Peter and Fran!
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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18 Jul 2006 11:43:06 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Sound of Trumpet
(sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
GOOD! The Bush Administration is too busy ending lives to be concerned
with saving them. Somebody's got to care.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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19 Jul 2006 06:59:29 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet George Peatty
(peattyg47-1230@copper.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:43:06 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
GOOD! The Bush Administration is too busy ending lives to be
concerned with saving them. Somebody's got to care.
When you take life to save life, the net gain is still zero. Stem
cell research only interdicts the normal process in the hopes of
altering who lives and who dies ..
Who's life is being taken for stem cell research?
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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19 Jul 2006 06:30:20 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/16/06 | Gudrun Schultz
Posted on 07/17/2006 4:48:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
"Stem cell therapy has the potential to treat a multitude of diseases
and illnesses which up until now have been labelled 'incurable,'"
the pair said in a statement released by the University of California.
"Continuing advances in stem cell medicine will change all of our
lives for the better."
Despite such assumptions, research using human embryonic stem cells has
so far been unsuccessful. All of the breakthroughs using stem cells for
medical therapy have so far been found through the use of adult stem
cells-cells obtained directly from the individual in need of therapy
and used successfully to treat a growing list of serious illnesses.
Embryonic stem cell research has received international criticism,
including disapproval by the US government, because the research
involves the killing of human embryos in the very earliest stages of
development. The Catholic Church, in particular, has condemned any
research that involves the use or destruction of the human embryo as
intrinsically immoral.
Ironically, despite the undercurrent of traditional morality that forms
the foundation of The Lord of the Rings trilogy-Tolkien was a devout
Roman Catholic-the film has been used as a springboard to promote
policies in direct opposition to Catholic teaching.
British actor Ian McKellen, who portrayed the wizard Gandalf in the
film, has used the international recognition generated by the film to
further his promotion of homosexuality, campaigning for homosexual
"marriage" in Britain.
Good. Maybe I'll buy another copy
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19 Jul 2006 02:51:02 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1153308620.027824.317710@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/16/06 | Gudrun Schultz
Posted on 07/17/2006 4:48:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
"Stem cell therapy has the potential to treat a multitude of diseases
and illnesses which up until now have been labelled 'incurable,'"
the pair said in a statement released by the University of California.
"Continuing advances in stem cell medicine will change all of our
lives for the better."
Despite such assumptions, research using human embryonic stem cells has
so far been unsuccessful. All of the breakthroughs using stem cells for
medical therapy have so far been found through the use of adult stem
cells-cells obtained directly from the individual in need of therapy
and used successfully to treat a growing list of serious illnesses.
Embryonic stem cell research has received international criticism,
including disapproval by the US government, because the research
involves the killing of human embryos in the very earliest stages of
development. The Catholic Church, in particular, has condemned any
research that involves the use or destruction of the human embryo as
intrinsically immoral.
Ironically, despite the undercurrent of traditional morality that forms
the foundation of The Lord of the Rings trilogy-Tolkien was a devout
Roman Catholic-the film has been used as a springboard to promote
policies in direct opposition to Catholic teaching.
British actor Ian McKellen, who portrayed the wizard Gandalf in the
film, has used the international recognition generated by the film to
further his promotion of homosexuality, campaigning for homosexual
"marriage" in Britain.
Good. Maybe I'll buy another copy
We have the first two on DVD - Now I have an excellent excuse to go out and
buy the third.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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19 Jul 2006 08:34:08 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/16/06 | Gudrun Schultz
Posted on 07/17/2006 4:48:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
"Stem cell therapy has the potential to treat a multitude of diseases
and illnesses which up until now have been labelled 'incurable,'"
the pair said in a statement released by the University of California.
"Continuing advances in stem cell medicine will change all of our
lives for the better."
Despite such assumptions, research using human embryonic stem cells has
so far been unsuccessful. All of the breakthroughs using stem cells for
medical therapy have so far been found through the use of adult stem
cells-cells obtained directly from the individual in need of therapy
and used successfully to treat a growing list of serious illnesses.
Embryonic stem cell research has received international criticism,
including disapproval by the US government, because the research
involves the killing of human embryos in the very earliest stages of
development. The Catholic Church, in particular, has condemned any
research that involves the use or destruction of the human embryo as
intrinsically immoral.
Ironically, despite the undercurrent of traditional morality that forms
the foundation of The Lord of the Rings trilogy-Tolkien was a devout
Roman Catholic-the film has been used as a springboard to promote
policies in direct opposition to Catholic teaching.
British actor Ian McKellen, who portrayed the wizard Gandalf in the
film, has used the international recognition generated by the film to
further his promotion of homosexuality, campaigning for homosexual
"marriage" in Britain.
FABULOUS! Glad I spent so much money on it! I think I'll go pick up
that LOTR chess set I've been eying in honor of this news!
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19 Jul 2006 07:47:56 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:34:08 GMT, Krow <krow64@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667499/posts
Lord of the Rings Profits Used to Support Embryonic Stem Cell Research
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/16/06 | Gudrun Schultz
Posted on 07/17/2006 4:48:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 17, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Profits
from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy are being used to fund
destructive human embryonic research at the University of California,
reported the Mainichi Daily News.
Filmmakers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, who brought the J.R.R. Tolkien
epic to the screen, together donated US $310,000 last Saturday to fund
research using the stem cells of human embryos.
"Stem cell therapy has the potential to treat a multitude of diseases
and illnesses which up until now have been labelled 'incurable,'"
the pair said in a statement released by the University of California.
"Continuing advances in stem cell medicine will change all of our
lives for the better."
Despite such assumptions, research using human embryonic stem cells has
so far been unsuccessful. All of the breakthroughs using stem cells for
medical therapy have so far been found through the use of adult stem
cells-cells obtained directly from the individual in need of therapy
and used successfully to treat a growing list of serious illnesses.
Embryonic stem cell research has received international criticism,
including disapproval by the US government, because the research
involves the killing of human embryos in the very earliest stages of
development. The Catholic Church, in particular, has condemned any
research that involves the use or destruction of the human embryo as
intrinsically immoral.
Ironically, despite the undercurrent of traditional morality that forms
the foundation of The Lord of the Rings trilogy-Tolkien was a devout
Roman Catholic-the film has been used as a springboard to promote
policies in direct opposition to Catholic teaching.
British actor Ian McKellen, who portrayed the wizard Gandalf in the
film, has used the international recognition generated by the film to
further his promotion of homosexuality, campaigning for homosexual
"marriage" in Britain.
FABULOUS! Glad I spent so much money on it! I think I'll go pick up
that LOTR chess set I've been eying in honor of this news!
I'm off to pick up the DVD boxed set.
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> posting the following on 18 Jul 2006
19:29:10 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
British actor Ian McKellen, who portrayed the wizard Gandalf in the
film, has used the international recognition generated by the film to
further his promotion of homosexuality, campaigning for homosexual
"marriage" in Britain.
That's *Sir* Ian McKellan, CBE.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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