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15 Dec 2006 03:11:37 PM |
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Low key adoring fans...... |
I'm a devoted fan of Elvis Presley back in the 50's through 70's. If
I'm walking along the beach I sing his Hound Dog song. If I'm talking
to my sweetie I often break into "Can't help falling in love with you."
There are very few Presley songs I don't have on vinyl, cassette or CD
and most times on all three. Plus oodles of videos. Every time I
see an Elvis movie
in the TV guide I record it and watch at my leisure. I've worn out
the highway
travelling to Memphis and Graceland. I was there north of Detroit at
the SilverDome when Elvis performed. Travelled 500 miles for that one.
Then the King dies. Of coarse, I'm devastated at the loss.
After recovery I still go on worshiping Elvis. In a transformation
of my psyche I cannot fathom,
I still love Elvis. But in a much different way. I set up a web site
in his honor. But if you go there for Elvis song clips, or Elvis
video segments, or even a description of my enthrallment at the
Silverdome or anything touching on a Graceland visit you won't find it.
Now, you won't find me humming any song that passed over the lips of
the King. Never do I sway my hips to imitate the gyrations of my hero.
My web site only tell of undying love for Elvis.
Of coarse, you must assess me as heavily mentally challenged. Or just
unable to cope
with the loss of the real flesh and blood Elvis Presley.
So why would the great apostle to the gentiles, St. Paul do exactly the
same as above in his
almost-fanatical love of Jesus Christ? Plenty of St. Paul's enthuiasm
for Jesus but a
weird paucity of physical detail re the object of his devotion. Even
if Paul truly never met the physical Jesus he could have been spun up,
big time, by apostles, Christian groups throughout Palestine/Syria.
You know go out to Macedonia with at least a scrap of your hero's life
under your belt. And maybe include a snippet of your Jesus' miracles
or teachings in your letters to young churches. For posterity's sake.
After all you are the adoring servant of the King of earth and
eternity.
Weird. Maybe Hollywood and TV with all their celebrity worship have
warped me so I can't appreciate a low key Jesus fan?
So, for centuries now Christian scholars have wondered
about Paul's exclusively spiritual/resurrected Jesus? Weird. No?
With top witnesses to the Christ event such as Paul many pastors
must feel like American tank commanders in Europe during the
II World War with their Sherman tanks up against German Tigers.
Sure, the Americans and allies eventually won. Mainly because America
could produce 4 or 5 Sherman's for every one mauled by German
tigers.
Surely, St. Paul could have done much better. Makes one,
just at times, think St. Paul was proclaiming a sham messiah
not totally grounded in any real historical Jesus. Consequ. many
pastors
must feel like canon fodder for heavy weight opposition tanks such a
Robert Price
and the heavy guns of atheist evolutionists such as Richard Dawkins.
Thanks
a lot Paul, wherever you might be.
And, case you're wondering I'm still a Christian. A Christian who
thinks maybe
God could have been a bit more selective in his choice of early
Christian
preacher to the gentiles.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 07:08:00 PM |
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wrote:
Of coarse, you must assess me as heavily mentally challenged. Or just
unable to cope
with the loss of the real flesh and blood Elvis Presley.
So why would the great apostle to the gentiles, St. Paul do exactly
the same as above in his
almost-fanatical love of Jesus Christ? Plenty of St. Paul's enthuiasm
for Jesus but a
weird paucity of physical detail re the object of his devotion. Even
if Paul truly never met the physical Jesus he could have been spun up,
big time, by apostles, Christian groups throughout Palestine/Syria.
You know go out to Macedonia with at least a scrap of your hero's life
under your belt. And maybe include a snippet of your Jesus' miracles
or teachings in your letters to young churches. For posterity's sake.
After all you are the adoring servant of the King of earth and
eternity.
An excellent question and The Jesus Puzzle asks it and argues that there was
no flesh and blood Jesus.
It's not a love of Elvis that is a good example but a love of some hero in
a film that should be your example. John Wayne being killed in "The Sands Of
Iwo Jima" comes to mind.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
15 Dec 2006 10:04:59 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 13:11:37 -0800, wrote:
And, case you're wondering I'm still a Christian. A Christian who
thinks maybe
God could have been a bit more selective in his choice of early
Christian
preacher to the gentiles.
Get help.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Christians tell us that they love their enemies, and yet all I ask
is - not that they love their friends even, but they treat those
who differ from them , with simple fairness. We do not wish to be
forgiven but we wish Christians to so act that we will not have
to forgive them."
- Robert Ingersoll
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 03:33:22 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:11:37 -0800, wrote:
And, case you're wondering I'm still a Christian. A Christian who
thinks maybe
God could have been a bit more selective in his choice of early
Christian
preacher to the gentiles.
Get help.
Typical alt.atheism response. Time does nothing for you guys. You
pride yourself
as empirically grounded and the rational/intellectual kings of the
world. But,
what's the difference between Christian fundamentalist rants and your
I'm-always-angry
stance toward those who follow the Christian way and seek to relate it
to moderns.
It's always as if you refuse to see anything outside your take on
reality. The alt.atheist response is a knee-jerk ****off and leave me
alone. Just what Google groups are
designed to promote. NOT!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 05:17:08 PM |
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<> wrote in message
news:1166304801.990155.235010@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Al Klein wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:11:37 -0800, wrote:
And, case you're wondering I'm still a Christian. A Christian who
thinks maybe
God could have been a bit more selective in his choice of early
Christian
preacher to the gentiles.
Get help.
Typical alt.atheism response. Time does nothing for you guys. You
pride yourself
as empirically grounded and the rational/intellectual kings of the
world. But,
what's the difference between Christian fundamentalist rants and your
I'm-always-angry
stance toward those who follow the Christian way and seek to relate it
to moderns.
It's always as if you refuse to see anything outside your take on
reality. The alt.atheist response is a knee-jerk ****off and leave me
alone. Just what Google groups are
designed to promote. NOT!
Oh, go blow a goat, you fucking pansey. No one is forcing you to be here.
Go run home to mommy.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 03:53:26 PM |
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wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:11:37 -0800, wrote:
And, case you're wondering I'm still a Christian. A Christian who
thinks maybe
God could have been a bit more selective in his choice of early
Christian
preacher to the gentiles.
Get help.
Typical alt.atheism response. Time does nothing for you guys. You
pride yourself
as empirically grounded and the rational/intellectual kings of the
world. But,
what's the difference between Christian fundamentalist rants and your
I'm-always-angry
stance toward those who follow the Christian way and seek to relate it
to moderns.
It's always as if you refuse to see anything outside your take on
reality. The alt.atheist response is a knee-jerk ****off and leave me
alone. Just what Google groups are
designed to promote. NOT!
Damn it! You're right. That word "atheism" is just so damned tempting
isn't it? Like you're the cat, and the word is a fat little dove.
We really should change the name of OUR newsgroup to:
alt.stay.the.*****.out.if.you.believe.in.god.gods.devils.heavens.hells.cause.we.dont.give.a.*****
Maybe then, ya'll might be a cott'n to stay'n the hell out.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 07:08:05 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2006 13:33:22 -0800, wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 13:11:37 -0800, wrote:
And, case you're wondering I'm still a Christian. A Christian who
thinks maybe
God could have been a bit more selective in his choice of early
Christian
preacher to the gentiles.
Get help.
Typical alt.atheism response. Time does nothing for you guys. You
pride yourself
as empirically grounded and the rational/intellectual kings of the
world. But,
what's the difference between Christian fundamentalist rants and your
I'm-always-angry
stance toward those who follow the Christian way and seek to relate it
to moderns.
Yet another theist who can't think in terms of the real world outside
his religion and rationalises the reaction to his stupidity, slander
and nastiness by lying even more.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 08:43:18 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:08:05 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
Yet another theist who can't think in terms of the real world outside
his religion and rationalises the reaction to his stupidity, slander
and nastiness by lying even more.
Maybe we should put up a notice to the effect of "Rational adults only
- please show proof at the door". We could make an exception for
Pukey and the few others who provide entertainment.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate."
- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Low key adoring fans...... |
16 Dec 2006 08:39:02 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2006 13:33:22 -0800, wrote:
Typical alt.atheism response. Time does nothing for you guys. You
pride yourself
as empirically grounded and the rational/intellectual kings of the
world. But,
what's the difference between Christian fundamentalist rants and your
I'm-always-angry
stance toward those who follow the Christian way and seek to relate it
to moderns.
The first exists, the second doesn't. I see that as a difference.
It's always as if you refuse to see anything outside your take on
reality.
I refuse to "see" things outside reality. If you "see" things that
aren't real you need professional help, hence my suggestion that you
seek some.
The alt.atheist response is a knee-jerk ****off and leave me
alone. Just what Google groups are
designed to promote. NOT!
This isn't a Google group, so what relevance does that comment have?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The Catholic Church a Jew's best friend!"
- Tomás Torquemada
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