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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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21 Dec 2005 10:31:21 PM |
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Lying Creationist. But I Repeat Myself |
http://www.ydr.com/editorial/ci_3330100
Investigate perjury in Dover ID case
Judge Jones issued a broad, sensible ruling - finding that some board
members lied.
Daily Record/Sunday News
Dec 21, 2005 — They lied.
William Buckingham and Alan Bonsell wanted to bring God into high
school biology class, and in the process, they lied.
They lied about their motives.
They lied about their actions.
They lied about what they did or didn't say at public meetings.
They even lied when they claimed newspaper reporters lied in stories
about Dover school board meetings.
In his ruling on the Dover case, U.S. Judge John E. Jones III said it
was "ironic" that individuals who "proudly touted their religious
convictions in public" would "lie" under oath.
Yes, ironic - at the very least. But also sinful according to the 9th
Commandment.
And perhaps also criminal. We can only hope that the appropriate
authorities are investigating possible perjury charges in this case.
There should be some consequences for what Mr. Bonsell and Mr.
Buckingham have done in depositions and on the witness stand by
otherwise misrepresenting the facts.
Not to mention what they've done to their community.
They've cost Dover its reputation. The district, even after sensibly
voting out the entire school board, again has been made a national
laughingstock - last week "The Daily Show" aired yet another
embarrassing and insulting piece on Dover.
They have potentially cost Dover taxpayers perhaps a million or more
in legal fees. The judge has indicated the plaintiffs are entitled to
such fees.
The unintelligent designers of this fiasco should not walk away
unscathed. They've damaged and divided this community, and there
should be repercussions - a perjury investigation - beyond a lost
election.
The ruling suggests board members who approved the ID policy were
shockingly ill-informed and lackadaisical about what they were getting
the district into. They allowed themselves, taxpayers and students to
be made grunts on the front lines of the national culture wars without
bothering to learn what they were fighting for.
Turns out it was a lie.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2158 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Lying Creationist. But I Repeat Myself |
22 Dec 2005 12:13:02 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:31:21 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.ydr.com/editorial/ci_3330100
Investigate perjury in Dover ID case
Judge Jones issued a broad, sensible ruling - finding that some board
members lied.
Daily Record/Sunday News
Dec 21, 2005 — They lied.
William Buckingham and Alan Bonsell wanted to bring God into high
school biology class, and in the process, they lied.
They lied about their motives.
They lied about their actions.
They lied about what they did or didn't say at public meetings.
They even lied when they claimed newspaper reporters lied in stories
about Dover school board meetings.
In his ruling on the Dover case, U.S. Judge John E. Jones III said it
was "ironic" that individuals who "proudly touted their religious
convictions in public" would "lie" under oath.
Yes, ironic - at the very least. But also sinful according to the 9th
Commandment.
And perhaps also criminal. We can only hope that the appropriate
authorities are investigating possible perjury charges in this case.
There should be some consequences for what Mr. Bonsell and Mr.
Buckingham have done in depositions and on the witness stand by
otherwise misrepresenting the facts.
Not to mention what they've done to their community.
They've cost Dover its reputation. The district, even after sensibly
voting out the entire school board, again has been made a national
laughingstock - last week "The Daily Show" aired yet another
embarrassing and insulting piece on Dover.
They have potentially cost Dover taxpayers perhaps a million or more
in legal fees. The judge has indicated the plaintiffs are entitled to
such fees.
The unintelligent designers of this fiasco should not walk away
unscathed. They've damaged and divided this community, and there
should be repercussions - a perjury investigation - beyond a lost
election.
The ruling suggests board members who approved the ID policy were
shockingly ill-informed and lackadaisical about what they were getting
the district into. They allowed themselves, taxpayers and students to
be made grunts on the front lines of the national culture wars without
bothering to learn what they were fighting for.
Turns out it was a lie.
Intelligent design, as Judge Jones made abundantly clear in his
139-page ruling, is not science. ID has simply not earned a place in
high school biology curricula as an either/or alternative to
evolution.
The ruling reflects that evolution by natural selection is backed by
mountains of evidence while ID has produced not one peer-reviewed
paper.
That doesn't mean God doesn't exist.
It doesn't mean the world wasn't intelligently designed.
It just means that in science you can't invoke the supernatural when
you don't fully understand a natural process.
Judge Jones is to be congratulated for ruling broadly on the matter
rather than taking the easy way out with some cramped, nondecision
decision.
Unfortunately, this ground-breaking ruling is unlikely to become the
settled law of the land because the new board seems unlikely to appeal
it to the Supreme Court. Not that we advocate an appeal. Even the
judge laments that so much money and time has been wasted on this
"legal maelstrom."
In short, Judge Jones got it exactly right, eviscerating the pathetic
case put forth by the defense. The district's policy was religiously
motivated and espoused religion, thus violating the constitutional
separation of church and state.
No lie.
© York Daily Record
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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