Religions > Atheism > Madonna Proposes To Clean Nuclear Waste With Magic Kabbalah Water
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Madonna Proposes To Clean Nuclear Waste With Magic Kabbalah Water |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
Madonna's magical nuclear waste cure
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/20/06 | Abul Taher
Posted on 08/19/2006 4:18:01 PM PDT by Pokey78
MADONNA and her husband Guy Ritchie have been lobbying the government
and nuclear industry over a scheme to clean up radioactive waste with a
supposedly magic Kabbalah fluid.
The couple, both followers of the Jewish spiritual movement, approached
Downing Street, Whitehall and British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL) promoting a
"mystical" liquid tested in a Ukrainian lake.
"It was like a crank call . . . the scientific mechanisms and
principles were just bollocks, basically," one official said.
But civil servants at the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) and
scientists at BNFL were obliged to take the celebrity couple seriously.
It is understood that the couple, who live in London and Wiltshire,
were promoting a water-based solution that had allegedly proved
successful in neutralising dangerous nuclear waste in Ukraine.
The Kabbalah Centre, which is based in California, believes water is a
uniquely important substance that can be given magic healing powers
through "meditations and the consciousness of sharing".
Madonna is said to have approached Downing Street, before being
directed to the DTI. "She relentlessly pursued people," said a
former DTI civil servant. "She wanted to get this Russian scientist
to explain this to civil servants."
But her campaign became bogged down by Whitehall bureaucracy. "It was
a case of pass the parcel," said the civil servant.
Ritchie, the film director, cold-called BNFL and wrote a series of
letters accompanied by scientific papers. A panel of BNFL's best
scientists was tasked with looking into the proposal but could find no
scientific basis for the claims.
The lobbying, which took place a few years ago, was part of a campaign
by Madonna, who saw it as her mission to rid the world of nuclear
waste. She made this clear in newspaper interviews at the time.
"I mean, one of the biggest problems that exists right now in the
world is nuclear waste," she said. "That's something I've been
involved with for a while with a group of scientists - finding a way
to neutralise radiation, believe it or not."
The Kabbalah Centre, which is based in Los Angeles but has branches
worldwide, was set up by Philip Berg, a former insurance salesman. One
devotee has described how Berg leads chants of "Chernobyl" and the
names of other nuclear power plants. Followers believe this helps
"heal the problem of nuclear waste".
Undercover reporters who attended a Kabbalah Centre dinner in London
described how Madonna and Ritchie were among guests who turned east
towards Chernobyl and began shouting its name.
Some Kabbalah followers are even said to believe that nuclear waste is
the cause of the Aids epidemic.
Madonna has said: "According to science we aren't going to have a
planet in about 50 years at the rate we're going with nuclear waste.
"I can write the greatest songs and make the most fabulous films and
be a fashion icon and conquer the world, but if there isn't a world
to conquer, what's the point?
"I've just come to a place in my life where I'm trying to really
see what the big picture is and where my energy is better spent, and
that's one area I'm really concerned about."
The Kabbalah Centre is believed to have sponsored Oroz, a
"23rd-century" research body in New York that heralded a
"breakthrough" in neutralising radioactive waste.
Dr Artur Spokojny, the director of Oroz and a Kabbalah follower, is
said to have developed a "revolutionary" decontamination agent
called Orodyne, which can reportedly also treat gynaecological problems
in cows and sheep.
Three years ago the research centre claimed it had experimented with
the agent in Lake Glyboke near Chernobyl and had successfully
decontaminated the water.
BNFL says it was approached by "a Mr Ritchie" at that time. Ritchie
was told by one senior executive that the scheme defied the laws of
physics but he persisted and was referred to a team led by Sue Ion,
BNFL's executive director of technology, said to have "a brain the
size of a planet".
The industry is trying to find ways to dispose of enough waste to fill
five Royal Albert Halls, with more on the way if plans for new nuclear
power stations go ahead, so anyone with a viable solution could expect
a sympathetic hearing.
Paul Vallance, director of communications for British Nuclear Group,
the nuclear clean-up arm of BNFL, said: "If Mr Ritchie, or anyone
else for that matter, has such a solution we would be more than happy
to speak to them."
Madonna was not available to comment because she is on tour in Germany.
A spokeswoman said: "I've spoken to Guy's office and I don't
think he is going to be available to talk about this . . . I don't
think it's top of the list of things they are working on at the
moment."
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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24 Aug 2006 03:42:59 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message news:1156432851.435637.224020@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
Madonna's magical nuclear waste cure
[snip]
The Kabbalah Centre, which is based in Los Angeles but has branches
worldwide, was set up by Philip Berg, a former insurance salesman.
.... the smart guy ...
but he can't sing.
[snip]
Dr Artur Spokojny, the director of Oroz and a Kabbalah follower, is
said to have developed a "revolutionary" decontamination agent
called Orodyne, which can reportedly also treat gynaecological problems
in cows and sheep.
.... another smart guy ...
and he can't sing either.
[snip]
Madonna was not available to comment because she is on tour in Germany.
.... the dumb girl ...
but she can sing :-)
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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24 Aug 2006 04:21:02 PM |
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"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:nboHg.39181$7D3.402519@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
[snip]
What's the difference between xi and x', imbecile?
Androcles
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| User: "Scott Golden" |
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24 Aug 2006 12:02:32 PM |
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I just finished creating and contributing to a thread in
rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc in which I defended Madonna's right to freedom of
expression, because a German prosecutor was threatening to have her
arrested for religious intolerance (in her concerts photos of the Pope
and Hitler are displayed side by side).
After reading this article, I say she should get what's coming to her.
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
Madonna's magical nuclear waste cure
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/20/06 | Abul Taher
Posted on 08/19/2006 4:18:01 PM PDT by Pokey78
MADONNA and her husband Guy Ritchie have been lobbying the government
and nuclear industry over a scheme to clean up radioactive waste with a
supposedly magic Kabbalah fluid.
The couple, both followers of the Jewish spiritual movement, approached
Downing Street, Whitehall and British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL) promoting a
"mystical" liquid tested in a Ukrainian lake.
"It was like a crank call . . . the scientific mechanisms and
principles were just bollocks, basically," one official said.
But civil servants at the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) and
scientists at BNFL were obliged to take the celebrity couple seriously.
It is understood that the couple, who live in London and Wiltshire,
were promoting a water-based solution that had allegedly proved
successful in neutralising dangerous nuclear waste in Ukraine.
The Kabbalah Centre, which is based in California, believes water is a
uniquely important substance that can be given magic healing powers
through "meditations and the consciousness of sharing".
Madonna is said to have approached Downing Street, before being
directed to the DTI. "She relentlessly pursued people," said a
former DTI civil servant. "She wanted to get this Russian scientist
to explain this to civil servants."
But her campaign became bogged down by Whitehall bureaucracy. "It was
a case of pass the parcel," said the civil servant.
Ritchie, the film director, cold-called BNFL and wrote a series of
letters accompanied by scientific papers. A panel of BNFL's best
scientists was tasked with looking into the proposal but could find no
scientific basis for the claims.
The lobbying, which took place a few years ago, was part of a campaign
by Madonna, who saw it as her mission to rid the world of nuclear
waste. She made this clear in newspaper interviews at the time.
"I mean, one of the biggest problems that exists right now in the
world is nuclear waste," she said. "That's something I've been
involved with for a while with a group of scientists - finding a way
to neutralise radiation, believe it or not."
The Kabbalah Centre, which is based in Los Angeles but has branches
worldwide, was set up by Philip Berg, a former insurance salesman. One
devotee has described how Berg leads chants of "Chernobyl" and the
names of other nuclear power plants. Followers believe this helps
"heal the problem of nuclear waste".
Undercover reporters who attended a Kabbalah Centre dinner in London
described how Madonna and Ritchie were among guests who turned east
towards Chernobyl and began shouting its name.
Some Kabbalah followers are even said to believe that nuclear waste is
the cause of the Aids epidemic.
Madonna has said: "According to science we aren't going to have a
planet in about 50 years at the rate we're going with nuclear waste.
"I can write the greatest songs and make the most fabulous films and
be a fashion icon and conquer the world, but if there isn't a world
to conquer, what's the point?
"I've just come to a place in my life where I'm trying to really
see what the big picture is and where my energy is better spent, and
that's one area I'm really concerned about."
The Kabbalah Centre is believed to have sponsored Oroz, a
"23rd-century" research body in New York that heralded a
"breakthrough" in neutralising radioactive waste.
Dr Artur Spokojny, the director of Oroz and a Kabbalah follower, is
said to have developed a "revolutionary" decontamination agent
called Orodyne, which can reportedly also treat gynaecological problems
in cows and sheep.
Three years ago the research centre claimed it had experimented with
the agent in Lake Glyboke near Chernobyl and had successfully
decontaminated the water.
BNFL says it was approached by "a Mr Ritchie" at that time. Ritchie
was told by one senior executive that the scheme defied the laws of
physics but he persisted and was referred to a team led by Sue Ion,
BNFL's executive director of technology, said to have "a brain the
size of a planet".
The industry is trying to find ways to dispose of enough waste to fill
five Royal Albert Halls, with more on the way if plans for new nuclear
power stations go ahead, so anyone with a viable solution could expect
a sympathetic hearing.
Paul Vallance, director of communications for British Nuclear Group,
the nuclear clean-up arm of BNFL, said: "If Mr Ritchie, or anyone
else for that matter, has such a solution we would be more than happy
to speak to them."
Madonna was not available to comment because she is on tour in Germany.
A spokeswoman said: "I've spoken to Guy's office and I don't
think he is going to be available to talk about this . . . I don't
think it's top of the list of things they are working on at the
moment."
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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24 Aug 2006 12:25:15 PM |
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Scott Golden wrote:
I just finished creating and contributing to a thread in
rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc in which I defended Madonna's right to freedom of
expression, because a German prosecutor was threatening to have her
arrested for religious intolerance (in her concerts photos of the Pope
and Hitler are displayed side by side).
After reading this article, I say she should get what's coming to her.
Everyone "gets what's coming to her," by definition. But who can say
what that is, except by wishful condemnation?
Personally, I do not see that Madonna has an arrest and prosecution
"coming to her" for advocating some silly magical cure for radioactive
contamination.
I think instead, you need to get what is coming to you.
TCross
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| User: "Son of Discord" |
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24 Aug 2006 01:23:38 PM |
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In alt.atheism Sound of Trumpet shared this wisdom:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
<snip>
Undercover reporters who attended a Kabbalah Centre dinner in London
described how Madonna and Ritchie were among guests who turned east
towards Chernobyl and began shouting its name.
"Shouting its name"?? LOL!
<snip>
"I can write the greatest songs
Pigs arse!!
and make the most fabulous films
Cobblers. Name *ONE* that was any good.
("Cobblers" = Australian term for "*****")
and
be a fashion icon and conquer the world, but if there isn't a world
to conquer, what's the point?
Does this ***** think highly of herself, or what?
<snip rest>
Madonna's like a beer that got left out in the sun for a couple of
weeks with the cap off -- old, flat and stagnant.
"Son of Discord"
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
" . . The bible is crap, people who believe it
are idiots, and blasphemy is a victimless
crime because the whole fetid pile of
christianic mythology is a ficticious crock of *****."
-Stix, undefeated former Warlord of the BAAWA
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Eudaemonic Plague" |
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24 Aug 2006 03:01:47 PM |
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"Son of Discord" <Leviathan12@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:ptqre21roibt0ibtjr3lbq0qcau1sekj16@4ax.com...
: In alt.atheism Sound of Trumpet shared this wisdom:
:
: >
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: >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
: <snip>
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: >Undercover reporters who attended a Kabbalah Centre dinner in
London
: >described how Madonna and Ritchie were among guests who turned east
: >towards Chernobyl and began shouting its name.
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: "Shouting its name"?? LOL!
I hate people who type LOL - 99% of the time, it just wasn't fucking
funny to start with. Like this time.
: <snip>
: >"I can write the greatest songs
:
: Pigs arse!!
I guess you'd know a pig's arse, wouldn't you?
: >and make the most fabulous films
:
: Cobblers. Name *ONE* that was any good.
I suppose you've never seen "Desperately Seeking Susan", or "Running
on Empty", have you? Or are you simply flailing about, without any
real target?
: > and
: >be a fashion icon and conquer the world, but if there isn't a world
: >to conquer, what's the point?
:
: Does this ***** think highly of herself, or what?
Naw, she can't stand herself...low self esteem, you know. Get real.
She's beautiful, talented, and driven. I suppose you think that she
shouldn't think highly of herself? Sure, she's let her money/success
go to her head...sure, she's got loony beliefs. The fact is, most
people on this planet have loony beliefs, and I'm pretty sure you're
one of them.
: Madonna's like a beer that got left out in the sun for a couple of
: weeks with the cap off -- old, flat and stagnant.
You're a pathetic little boy.
Strumpet is a true kook, what's your excuse?
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25 Aug 2006 09:04:10 AM |
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"Eudaemonic Plague" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Naw, she can't stand herself...low self esteem, you know. Get real.
She's beautiful, talented, and driven.
Well, driven anyway . The rest is debatable ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Son of Discord" |
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25 Aug 2006 10:44:12 AM |
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In alt.atheism Eudaemonic Plague <ghod@ameritech.net> bitched and
moaned:
"Son of Discord" <Leviatha...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:ptqre21roibt0ibtjr3lbq0qcau1sekj16@4ax.com...
: In alt.atheism Sound of Trumpet shared this wisdom:
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: >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
: <snip>
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: >Undercover reporters who attended a Kabbalah Centre dinner in
London
: >described how Madonna and Ritchie were among guests who turned east
: >towards Chernobyl and began shouting its name.
:
: "Shouting its name"?? LOL!
I hate people who type LOL - 99% of the time, it just wasn't fucking
funny to start with. Like this time.
Duly noted, and ignored.
<snip whining>
Now go ***** yourself with a screwdriver, you dopey *****.
"Son of Discord"
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
" . . The bible is crap, people who believe it
are idiots, and blasphemy is a victimless
crime because the whole fetid pile of
christianic mythology is a ficticious crock of *****."
-Stix, undefeated former Warlord of the BAAWA
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Scott Golden" |
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25 Aug 2006 08:26:56 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Eudaemonic Plague" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
snip
Naw, she can't stand herself...low self esteem, you know. Get real.
She's beautiful, talented, and driven.
Well, driven anyway . The rest is debatable ;)
She's talented in a narrow range of endeavors: performing, song
selection, singing (to a lesser extent than the others), self promotion
(effective, although often embarrassing). Overall, she is the best
female pop music performer of the last 25 years; how important that
distinction is, that's up for debate (as is my declaration).
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| User: "Hatter" |
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24 Aug 2006 11:45:40 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
Madonna's magical nuclear waste cure
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/20/06 | Abul Taher
A little unusual of you to show an article with a theist viewpoint
mocked. What happened?
Hatter
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| User: "" |
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24 Aug 2006 11:53:50 AM |
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A little unusual of you to show an article with a theist viewpoint
mocked. What happened?
Madonna is a) non-Christian, b) practitioner of magic (which is how
Noise must view Kabbala), and c) not taken seriously by any Jew Noise
might respect. IOW, a Mocker of God.
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25 Aug 2006 10:34:39 AM |
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wrote:
A little unusual of you to show an article with a theist viewpoint
mocked. What happened?
Madonna is a) non-Christian, b) practitioner of magic (which is how
Noise must view Kabbala), and c) not taken seriously by any Jew Noise
might respect. IOW, a Mocker of God.
Even so, it seems that SoT is striking a bit
close to home.
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| User: "Lots42" |
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25 Aug 2006 11:08:28 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1686622/posts
Dr Artur Spokojny, the director of Oroz and a Kabbalah follower, is
said to have developed a "revolutionary" decontamination agent
called Orodyne, which can reportedly also treat gynaecological problems
in cows and sheep.
Frankly anything that can scour nuke waste clean is something I'm not
treating my cow's hoohah with. (I know, I know, these -certain-
Kabbalah people are insane nuts)
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| User: "wcb" |
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25 Aug 2006 12:44:24 AM |
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Stephen Knight wrote:
On 24 Aug 2006 08:20:51 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote:
Madonna's magical nuclear waste cure
MADONNA and her husband Guy Ritchie have been lobbying the government
and nuclear industry over a scheme to clean up radioactive waste with a
supposedly magic Kabbalah fluid.
Great idea!
Let's sent the has-been ***** ***** to Yucca Flats for a
demonstration. Obviously she's a nuclear physicist with a clear
insight into radioactive decay.
Hawking's must be doing wheelie's in his chair!
This is just brain damaged.
"Here *****, clean up this tank of radioactive
waste with your fake-o Kabbalah juice.
Then with this gieger counter we will compare that
with this control tank of radioactive waste over here."
You can bet these morons have no concept of testing
out their moron theory before peddling it.
--
Where did all these braindead morons come from!
What diseased sewer did they breed in and how did
they manage to find their way out on their own?
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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25 Aug 2006 12:51:05 AM |
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"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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You can bet these morons have no concept of testing
out their moron theory before peddling it.
Something you can really relate to, Barwell.
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| User: "wcb" |
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25 Aug 2006 09:45:34 AM |
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Gandalf Grey wrote:
"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:12et3j4qaco38d3@corp.supernews.com...
You can bet these morons have no concept of testing
out their moron theory before peddling it.
Something you can really relate to, Barwell.
Gandy seems to like Madonna's crap.
Flakey!
--
Where did all these braindead morons come from!
What diseased sewer did they breed in and how did
they manage to find their way out on their own?
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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24 Aug 2006 06:52:00 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 24 Aug 2006
08:20:51 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
MADONNA and her husband Guy Ritchie have been lobbying the government
and nuclear industry over a scheme to clean up radioactive waste with a
supposedly magic Kabbalah fluid.
So, when is the Pope going to pray it all away?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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