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10 Oct 2005 11:56:15 AM |
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Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
You'll never read about the RCC threatening anyone with punishment for
artistic expression.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051010/NOTE10-4/TPEntertainment/Music
Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says
Tel Aviv -- A song on Madonna's forthcoming album dedicated to a
Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from some rabbis, the Israeli
Maariv daily reported yesterday.
The song, entitled Isaac, is about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th-century Jewish
mystic and Kabbalah scholar.
Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern town of
Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the song
as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name. "Jewish law
forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act is
just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize with her because of
the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens," Rabbi
Rafael Cohen told Maariv. AP
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20 Oct 2005 08:49:17 PM |
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Hate the sin, love the sinner, please.
JohnN
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10 Oct 2005 12:09:01 PM |
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I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
BAM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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You'll never read about the RCC threatening anyone with punishment for
artistic expression.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051010/NOTE10-4/TPEntertainment/Music
Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says
Tel Aviv -- A song on Madonna's forthcoming album dedicated to a
Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from some rabbis, the Israeli
Maariv daily reported yesterday.
The song, entitled Isaac, is about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th-century Jewish
mystic and Kabbalah scholar.
Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern town of
Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the song
as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name. "Jewish law
forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act is
just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize with her because of
the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens," Rabbi
Rafael Cohen told Maariv. AP
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10 Oct 2005 01:30:03 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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: I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
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: BAM
BAM? Is like that gutter chef's BAM? Or is this your initials? Or
is it kinda like BEM (Bug-Eyed Monsters).....you know, Bug-Assed
Monster?
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
: news:1128963375.429141.228600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: > You'll never read about the RCC threatening anyone with punishment
for
: > artistic expression.
I wouldn't really call it a threat....and the RCC has made this exact
"threat" many, many times.
"My god's gonna kick your *****!" How silly can you get?
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2005101
0/NOTE10-4/TPEntertainment/Music
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: > Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says
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: > Tel Aviv -- A song on Madonna's forthcoming album dedicated to a
: > Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from some rabbis, the Israeli
: > Maariv daily reported yesterday.
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: > The song, entitled Isaac, is about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th-century
Jewish
: > mystic and Kabbalah scholar.
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: > Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern
town of
: > Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the
song
: > as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name. "Jewish law
: > forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act
is
: > just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize with her
because of
: > the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens,"
Rabbi
: > Rafael Cohen told Maariv. AP
: >
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10 Oct 2005 10:12:07 PM |
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"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
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11 Oct 2005 12:34:51 AM |
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bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
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What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
=20
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You a tough guy?
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BAM=20
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Are you propositioning him?
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Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too =
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only =
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of=20
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =96Thomas Paine
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11 Oct 2005 12:59:06 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
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| User: "LC" |
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11 Oct 2005 09:40:09 AM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
LC~ Not surprised that bam's a bigot.
"I won't take my religion from any man who never works except with his
mouth."~ Carl Sandburg
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| User: "bam" |
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11 Oct 2005 10:50:51 AM |
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
BAM
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| User: "LC" |
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11 Oct 2005 11:06:35 AM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
Not that Pope Benny cares, of course, given his stint in the Hitler Youth.
LC~ Apples, trees, etc.
"Continue the practice [of birth control], and the sons of the yellow
man or the black will some day fill the President's chair in
Washington."~ Reverend Wendell Corey of Notre Dame
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| User: "bam" |
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11 Oct 2005 05:47:38 PM |
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
So you're saying we should always pull a Jew's beard?
BAM
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| User: "LC" |
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11 Oct 2005 06:43:07 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
So you're saying we should always pull a Jew's beard?
Thanks for reinforcing my point.
Really...you make this way too easy.
LC~ Sees that it's all too clear that bam bam has pebbles for brains.
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself."~ Sir Richard Francis Burton
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11 Oct 2005 08:25:35 PM |
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to
pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that
Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
So you're saying we should always pull a Jew's beard?
Thanks for reinforcing my point.
Really...you make this way too easy.
LC~ Sees that it's all too clear that bam bam has pebbles for brains.
I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you call me an anti
semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a Jew's beard"?
BAM
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| User: "bob young" |
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15 Oct 2005 05:51:02 AM |
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bam wrote:
"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to
pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that
Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
So you're saying we should always pull a Jew's beard?
Thanks for reinforcing my point.
Really...you make this way too easy.
LC~ Sees that it's all too clear that bam bam has pebbles for brains.
I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you call me an anti
semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a Jew's beard"?
a 'real' antisemite
BAM
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17 Oct 2005 04:07:20 PM |
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On 15-Oct-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you call me an
anti
semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a Jew's
beard"?
a 'real' antisemite
Can she really be so stupid that she thinks she's fooling anyone?!?
Susan
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| User: "bam" |
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17 Oct 2005 09:01:22 PM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:coU4f.10572$l_2.3102@trnddc02...
On 15-Oct-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you call me an
anti
semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a Jew's
beard"?
a 'real' antisemite
Can she really be so stupid that she thinks she's fooling anyone?!?
Shoo. Begone.
BAM
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| User: "" |
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18 Oct 2005 06:12:08 AM |
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Are you really stupid enough to believe the words of a sub-human Jew?
Jews are the scum of the earth and should have been eradicated by
Hitler.
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:01:22 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:coU4f.10572$l_2.3102@trnddc02...
On 15-Oct-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you call me an
anti
semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a Jew's
beard"?
a 'real' antisemite
Can she really be so stupid that she thinks she's fooling anyone?!?
Shoo. Begone.
BAM
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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18 Oct 2005 06:36:31 AM |
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<killjews@neonazi.com> wrote in message
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Are you really stupid enough to believe the words of a sub-human Jew?
Jews are the scum of the earth and should have been eradicated by
Hitler.
Plonk goes the nazi *****.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "" |
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19 Oct 2005 10:00:29 PM |
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On 18-Oct-2005, wrote:
Are you really stupid enough to believe the words of a sub-human Jew?
Jews are the scum of the earth and should have been eradicated by
Hitler.
Yeah, that must be why YOU& the other bigot (proving her fear of
us, below) hide behind pathetic pseudonyms, & we don't.
Susan
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:01:22 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:coU4f.10572$l_2.3102@trnddc02...
On 15-Oct-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you call me
an
anti
semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a Jew's
beard"?
a 'real' antisemite
Can she really be so stupid that she thinks she's fooling anyone?!?
Shoo. Begone.
BAM
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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18 Oct 2005 06:47:13 AM |
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Says the anonymous ignorant hate-mongering NAZI coward.
<killjews@neonazi.com> wrote in message
news:20m9l1ho6dvaq9ijonfmsajma0esav56r1@4ax.com...
: Are you really stupid enough to believe the words of a sub-human Jew?
: Jews are the scum of the earth and should have been eradicated by
: Hitler.
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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<> wrote in message
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: Are you really stupid enough to believe the words of a sub-human Jew?
: Jews are the scum of the earth and should have been eradicated by
: Hitler.
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: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:01:22 -0400, "bam"
: <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
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: ><flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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: >> On 15-Oct-2005, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
: >>
: >>> > I don't understand. I say "never pull a Jew's beard" and you
call me an
: >>> > anti
: >>> > semite. What would you call someone who says, "always pull a
Jew's
: >>> > beard"?
: >>>
: >>> a 'real' antisemite
: >>
: >> Can she really be so stupid that she thinks she's fooling anyone?!?
: >
: >Shoo. Begone.
: >
: >BAM
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
13 Oct 2005 07:23:41 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:06:35 +0000, LC wrote:
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
Not that Pope Benny cares, of course, given his stint in the Hitler Youth.
And that makes him _automatically_ an anti-semite?
Just because a young person was in the Hitler Youth, doesn't mean that he
was necessarily a Nazi, those boys had plenty of reason why they wanted to
be in this group. Sometimes it was a way to avoid being harmed by the
Nazis.
So are you saying people can't change how they view others?
LC~ Apples, trees, etc.
opps I just hope this isn't another installment of "Lady Chatterley" the
infamous Usenet-bot....
"Continue the practice [of birth control], and the sons of the yellow man
or the black will some day fill the President's chair in Washington."~
Reverend Wendell Corey of Notre Dame
Dragomir Kollaric
--
Strange it works but we don't know why:
it's Windows it does not have bugs only features;
the _most_ often _heard_ lie of the 20th. century,
will it _continue_ in the third Millennium?
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| User: "LC" |
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14 Oct 2005 10:03:30 AM |
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"dragomir kollaric" <dragomirr_kollaric@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:06:35 +0000, LC wrote:
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
Not that Pope Benny cares, of course, given his stint in the Hitler
Youth.
And that makes him _automatically_ an anti-semite?
Pope Benny? Who knows?
He's just a lackey and an apologist for a deeply corrupt organization
In any event, I was pulling the chain of slow-witted troll "bam", who made
several remarks that could be construed as such.
Just because a young person was in the Hitler Youth, doesn't mean that he
was necessarily a Nazi, those boys had plenty of reason why they wanted to
be in this group. Sometimes it was a way to avoid being harmed by the
Nazis.
So are you saying people can't change how they view others?
Of course. With learning comes wisdom.
Well, at least for some.
Hey, even the RCC finally admitted the Earth *isn't* the center of the
universe...<g>
LC~ Only took 'em a couple of hundred years.
"At the time of Galileo the Church remained much more faithful to reason
than Galileo himself. The process against Galileo was reasonable and just".
~ Joseph Ratzinger, "Pope Benny", Corriere della Sera, March 30, 1990; 30
Dias, January
1993
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
13 Oct 2005 07:16:12 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:23:41 +0200, dragomir kollaric
<dragomirr_kollaric@bigmailbox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:06:35 +0000, LC wrote:
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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"LC" <LCain't@this.com> wrote in message
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:34:51 GMT, "BYTE ME!" <donotreply@nowhere.com>
wrote in message <Z9I2f.111388$XF5.47424@fe02.news.easynews.com>
bam wrote:
"*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
You a tough guy?
BAM
Are you propositioning him?
He likes tough guys. With whips and chains.
Looks like bam-bam didn't have to wait 'til Sunday for that Confession.
Confession is Saturday Mr. Know-it-all.
Fine. Don't forget to confess your anti-Semitism.
Not that Pope Benny cares, of course, given his stint in the Hitler Youth.
And that makes him _automatically_ an anti-semite?
Just because a young person was in the Hitler Youth, doesn't mean that he
was necessarily a Nazi, those boys had plenty of reason why they wanted to
be in this group. Sometimes it was a way to avoid being harmed by the
Nazis.
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, membership was mandatory.
So are you saying people can't change how they view others?
LC~ Apples, trees, etc.
opps I just hope this isn't another installment of "Lady Chatterley" the
infamous Usenet-bot....
"Continue the practice [of birth control], and the sons of the yellow man
or the black will some day fill the President's chair in Washington."~
Reverend Wendell Corey of Notre Dame
Dragomir Kollaric
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
13 Oct 2005 11:23:13 PM |
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Before 1 December 1936 it was not mandatory. Mandatory or not, we do not
know what any youth actually believed nor how much influence it had on
them as an adult, for better or for worse:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/hj-prelude.htm
On December 1, 1936, Hitler decreed "The Law concerning the Hitler
Youth" which mandated that all young Germans (excluding Jews) would "be
educated physically, intellectually and morally in the spirit of
National Socialism" though the Hitler Youth from the age of ten onward.
This law also effectively ended the Catholic Youth Organization which
had managed to hold for three years amid continual Nazi harassment.
Parents who prevented their children from joining the Hitler Youth were
subject to heavy prison sentences. Membership thus grew to nearly six
million. As a result, the organization sprouted into a giant bureaucracy
in Berlin and began to acquire the dreariness of a big governmental
institution in marked contrast to the dynamic organization it had been
in the 1920s and early '30s when members battled daily to bring Hitler
to power. The compulsory nature of weekly HJ meetings for everyone led
to a gradual decline in morale and discipline.
To add more excitement, a new phase began for the Hitler Youth with
increased emphasis on para-military training in direct association with
the Wehrmacht (Army) Luftwaffe (Air Force) and Navy. In 1937, a Hitler
Youth rifle school was also established. About 1.5 million boys were
trained in rifle shooting and military field exercises over the next few
years with over 50,000 boys earning a marksmanship medal that required
near perfect shooting at a distance of 50 meters (164 feet).
Special Hitler Youth para-military formations for boys eventually
included: the Flieger-HJ in which aviation enthusiasts built gliders,
participated in annual glider flying competitions, visited Luftwaffe
facilities and went for rides in fighters and bombers; the Motor-HJ for
boys 16 and older in which they acquired their driver's license and
learned to ride motorcycles; and the Marine-HJ in which they obtained
sailing certificates, learned river navigation, and participated in
naval exercises aboard German training ships.
"John Baker" <nunya@biziniz.net> wrote in message
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: Actually, if I'm not mistaken, membership was mandatory.
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| User: "dragomir kollaric" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
14 Oct 2005 07:57:27 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:23:13 -0400, ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton
wrote:
Before 1 December 1936 it was not mandatory. Mandatory or not, we do not
know what any youth actually believed nor how much influence it had on
them as an adult, for better or for worse:
Thanks Riain, here I agree with you, also that one really can not be sure
that many of them kept the Nazi ideology.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/hj-prelude.htm
On December 1, 1936, Hitler decreed "The Law concerning the Hitler
Youth" which mandated that all young Germans (excluding Jews) would "be
educated physically, intellectually and morally in the spirit of
National Socialism" though the Hitler Youth from the age of ten onward.
This law also effectively ended the Catholic Youth Organization which
had managed to hold for three years amid continual Nazi harassment.
Parents who prevented their children from joining the Hitler Youth were
subject to heavy prison sentences. Membership thus grew to nearly six
million. As a result, the organization sprouted into a giant bureaucracy
in Berlin and began to acquire the dreariness of a big governmental
institution in marked contrast to the dynamic organization it had been
in the 1920s and early '30s when members battled daily to bring Hitler
to power. The compulsory nature of weekly HJ meetings for everyone led
to a gradual decline in morale and discipline.
To add more excitement, a new phase began for the Hitler Youth with
increased emphasis on para-military training in direct association with
the Wehrmacht (Army) Luftwaffe (Air Force) and Navy. In 1937, a Hitler
Youth rifle school was also established. About 1.5 million boys were
trained in rifle shooting and military field exercises over the next few
years with over 50,000 boys earning a marksmanship medal that required
near perfect shooting at a distance of 50 meters (164 feet).
Special Hitler Youth para-military formations for boys eventually
included: the Flieger-HJ in which aviation enthusiasts built gliders,
participated in annual glider flying competitions, visited Luftwaffe
facilities and went for rides in fighters and bombers; the Motor-HJ for
boys 16 and older in which they acquired their driver's license and
learned to ride motorcycles; and the Marine-HJ in which they obtained
sailing certificates, learned river navigation, and participated in
naval exercises aboard German training ships.
"John Baker" <nunya@biziniz.net> wrote in message
news:55utk193o57d45vlrd2306urbv0jo4a4of@4ax.com...
::
: Actually, if I'm not mistaken, membership was mandatory.
Dragomir Kollaric
--
Strange it works but we don't know why:
it's Windows it does not have bugs only features;
the _most_ often _heard_ lie of the 20th. century,
will it _continue_ in the third Millennium?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
12 Oct 2005 01:12:29 AM |
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On 10-Oct-2005, "*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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: I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
:
: BAM
BAM? Is like that gutter chef's BAM? Or is this your initials? Or
is it kinda like BEM (Bug-Eyed Monsters).....you know, Bug-Assed
Monster?
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
Yes, she's quite the coward - afraid even of *facts*.
Susan
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
12 Oct 2005 06:42:50 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hP13f.41821$HM1.485@trnddc04...
On 10-Oct-2005, "*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
news:Rcx2f.8812$Lp.2946@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
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: I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
:
: BAM
BAM? Is like that gutter chef's BAM? Or is this your initials? Or
is it kinda like BEM (Bug-Eyed Monsters).....you know, Bug-Assed
Monster?
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
Yes, she's quite the coward - afraid even of *facts*.
Stop trying to get my attention. I told you - you're finished. Irish
abortionist wannabe Jewess.
BAM
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
10 Oct 2005 02:41:00 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:30:03 GMT, "*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net>
wrote in message <Lqy2f.1155$ny2.857@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
news:Rcx2f.8812$Lp.2946@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
:
: I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
:
: BAM
BAM? Is like that gutter chef's BAM? Or is this your initials? Or
is it kinda like BEM (Bug-Eyed Monsters).....you know, Bug-Assed
Monster?
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
: news:1128963375.429141.228600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: > You'll never read about the RCC threatening anyone with punishment
for
: > artistic expression.
I wouldn't really call it a threat....and the RCC has made this exact
"threat" many, many times.
"My god's gonna kick your *****!" How silly can you get?
: >
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2005101
0/NOTE10-4/TPEntertainment/Music
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: >
: > Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says
: >
: >
: > Tel Aviv -- A song on Madonna's forthcoming album dedicated to a
: > Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from some rabbis, the Israeli
: > Maariv daily reported yesterday.
: >
: > The song, entitled Isaac, is about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th-century
Jewish
: > mystic and Kabbalah scholar.
: >
: > Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern
town of
: > Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the
song
: > as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name. "Jewish law
: > forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act
is
: > just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize with her
because of
: > the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens,"
Rabbi
: > Rafael Cohen told Maariv. AP
: >
:
:
I thought the RCC usually skipped the threats and went straight to
burning at the stake.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
10 Oct 2005 10:09:24 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:41:00 GMT, Boy Toy <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:30:03 GMT, "*NARF*" <misleart@ameritech.net>
wrote in message <Lqy2f.1155$ny2.857@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
news:Rcx2f.8812$Lp.2946@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
:
: I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
:
: BAM
BAM? Is like that gutter chef's BAM? Or is this your initials? Or
is it kinda like BEM (Bug-Eyed Monsters).....you know, Bug-Assed
Monster?
What's with the jew's beard? You sure as ***** wouldn't want to pull
mine, and I'm not a jew.
: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
: news:1128963375.429141.228600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: > You'll never read about the RCC threatening anyone with punishment
for
: > artistic expression.
I wouldn't really call it a threat....and the RCC has made this exact
"threat" many, many times.
"My god's gonna kick your *****!" How silly can you get?
: >
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2005101
0/NOTE10-4/TPEntertainment/Music
: >
: >
: > Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says
: >
: >
: > Tel Aviv -- A song on Madonna's forthcoming album dedicated to a
: > Kabbalist rabbi is drawing criticism from some rabbis, the Israeli
: > Maariv daily reported yesterday.
: >
: > The song, entitled Isaac, is about Yitzhak Luria, a 16th-century
Jewish
: > mystic and Kabbalah scholar.
: >
: > Rabbis who oversee Luria's tomb and a seminary in the northern
town of
: > Safed are unimpressed with Madonna's musical tribute and see the
song
: > as an attempt by the pop star to profit from his name. "Jewish law
: > forbids the use of the name of the holy rabbi for profit. Her act
is
: > just simply unacceptable and I can only sympathize with her
because of
: > the punishment that she is going to receive from the heavens,"
Rabbi
: > Rafael Cohen told Maariv. AP
: >
:
:
I thought the RCC usually skipped the threats and went straight to
burning at the stake.
That was back in the old days when they had more clout. These days
they have to go through proper channels. <G>
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| User: "Gabby" |
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| Title: Re: Madonna will be punished for song, rabbi says |
10 Oct 2005 03:08:17 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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I guess no one cut him into the deal. Never pull a Jew's beard.
BAM
That's disgusting even for you.
Gabby
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