| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"J Young" |
| Date: |
25 Dec 2005 12:07:45 PM |
| Object: |
Majority in U.S. believes in God |
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America, with "very large
majorities" of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the birth and
Resurrection of Jesus Christ -- with belief in astrology, ghosts and other
New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God, according to a recent
Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in miracles,
70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence of heaven, and
70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition, 68 percent believe in
angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents in the
survey -- which included demographic divisions for men, women, three
political parties and three levels of education. Republicans' numbers
eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican believe
in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out the
GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent of the
Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival of
the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the existence of
heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after death and that
Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in heaven.
More than three quarters -- 76 percent -- of Republicans believe in both
angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent and 68
percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The poll
found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and hell; the
figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
"What may be more surprising is that significant minorities believe in
ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation," the poll found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: "That you were once
another person," the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in astrology,
28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent believe in UFOs
.
|
|
| User: "Paul Duca" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 07:28:11 PM |
|
|
We'll wait for the story about God returning the favor....
Paul
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Woden" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 07:16:58 PM |
|
|
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America, with "very large
majorities" of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the
birth and Resurrection of Jesus Christ -- with belief in astrology,
ghosts and other New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God, according to a
recent
Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in
miracles, 70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence
of heaven, and 70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition,
68 percent believe in angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of
Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents
in the
survey -- which included demographic divisions for men, women, three
political parties and three levels of education. Republicans' numbers
eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican
believe
in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out
the GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent
of the Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of
Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival
of
the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the
existence of heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after
death and that Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in
heaven.
More than three quarters -- 76 percent -- of Republicans believe
in both
angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent
and 68 percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The
poll
found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and
hell; the figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both
categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
"What may be more surprising is that significant minorities
believe in
ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation," the poll
found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: "That you were
once
another person," the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in
astrology, 28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent
believe in UFOs
Well, more evidence of the failure of the American education system.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Frank Arthur" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 12:22:47 PM |
|
|
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
A bigger majority of Muslims believe in God by far
than Americans do.
So What?
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America, with "very large
majorities" of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the birth
and
Resurrection of Jesus Christ -- with belief in astrology, ghosts and other
New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God, according to a recent
Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in miracles,
70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence of heaven, and
70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition, 68 percent believe
in
angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents in the
survey -- which included demographic divisions for men, women, three
political parties and three levels of education. Republicans' numbers
eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican believe
in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out the
GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent of the
Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival of
the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the existence of
heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after death and that
Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in heaven.
More than three quarters -- 76 percent -- of Republicans believe in
both
angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent and
68
percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The poll
found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and hell;
the
figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
"What may be more surprising is that significant minorities believe in
ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation," the poll found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: "That you were once
another person," the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in astrology,
28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent believe in UFOs
.
|
|
|
| User: "bob young" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 06:21:02 AM |
|
|
Frank Arthur wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
A bigger majority of Muslims believe in God by far
than Americans do.
So What?
so they are just as stupid, following a primitive myth
Bob Young
[from the sane side of the family]
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America, with "very large
majorities" of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the birth
and
Resurrection of Jesus Christ -- with belief in astrology, ghosts and other
New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God, according to a recent
Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in miracles,
70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence of heaven, and
70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition, 68 percent believe
in
angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents in the
survey -- which included demographic divisions for men, women, three
political parties and three levels of education. Republicans' numbers
eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican believe
in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out the
GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent of the
Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival of
the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the existence of
heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after death and that
Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in heaven.
More than three quarters -- 76 percent -- of Republicans believe in
both
angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent and
68
percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The poll
found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and hell;
the
figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
"What may be more surprising is that significant minorities believe in
ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation," the poll found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: "That you were once
another person," the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in astrology,
28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent believe in UFOs
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "martin" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 03:13:06 PM |
|
|
Frank Arthur wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
A bigger majority of Muslims believe in God by far
than Americans do.
So What?
Isn't that a bit like saying "A bigger majority of Christians believe in
God by far than Americans do."
Obviously, if you're muslim it's defined as belief in god.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Moishe Lipshitz" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 05:15:05 PM |
|
|
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
The majority of people in EVERY country on earth believe in God, including
all of the communist countries.
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America, with "very large
majorities" of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the birth
and
Resurrection of Jesus Christ -- with belief in astrology, ghosts and other
New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God, according to a recent
Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in miracles,
70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence of heaven, and
70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition, 68 percent believe
in
angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents in the
survey -- which included demographic divisions for men, women, three
political parties and three levels of education. Republicans' numbers
eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican believe
in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out the
GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent of the
Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival of
the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the existence of
heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after death and that
Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in heaven.
More than three quarters -- 76 percent -- of Republicans believe in
both
angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent and
68
percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The poll
found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and hell;
the
figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
"What may be more surprising is that significant minorities believe in
ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation," the poll found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: "That you were once
another person," the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in astrology,
28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent believe in UFOs
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 12:52:01 AM |
|
|
In <ZJFrf.3730$7P2.779@trnddc07>, "Moishe Lipshitz"
<moish@thewailingwall.biz> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
The majority of people in EVERY country on earth believe in God, including
all of the communist countries.
And more people believe in the Hindu gods than even live in the US...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Parsifal" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 04:30:27 PM |
|
|
*Majority in U.S. believes in God
So? Since when religious faith is a popularity contest?
More people know Britney Spears than JS Bach. Does that make her a
better artist?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 12:27:51 AM |
|
|
In <kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Majority in U.S. believes in God
When most people believed the world was flat, was it?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "BTR1701" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 08:22:15 PM |
|
|
In article <kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Yeah, and a majority of the world once believed the world was flat.
Didn't make it true.
.
|
|
|
| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 05:27:31 AM |
|
|
In article <BTR1702-D860A6.21242525122005@news.east.earthlink.net>,
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <kv6dnVxrPIltQjPeRVn-oA@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Yeah, and a majority of the world once believed the world was flat.
Didn't make it true.
** It is true. The Apollo moon landing was filmed on a movie sound stage
in Hollywood.
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 06:40:31 PM |
|
|
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
And our steadfastly secular legal system guarantees that they can.
USA. Secular forever.
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 02:50:16 AM |
|
|
On 25-Dec-2005, wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
And our steadfastly secular legal system guarantees that they can.
USA. Secular forever.
Terrific! When are we going to start?
Susan
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 12:50:49 PM |
|
|
In <c9Orf.5417$x%2.498@trnddc06>, wrote:
On 25-Dec-2005, wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
And our steadfastly secular legal system guarantees that they can.
USA. Secular forever.
Terrific! When are we going to start?
Real Soon Now.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "bob young" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 06:21:01 AM |
|
|
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains, the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
Bob Young
[from the sane side of the family]
with "very large
majorities" of the public steadfast in their belief in God and the birth and
Resurrection of Jesus Christ -- with belief in astrology, ghosts and other
New Age hallmarks lagging behind.
Overall, 82 percent of Americans believe in God,
*****
according to a recent
Harris poll, which also revealed that 73 percent also believe in miracles,
70 percent in life after death, 70 percent in the existence of heaven, and
70 percent that Jesus is the Son of God. In addition, 68 percent believe in
angels and 66 percent in the Resurrection of Christ.
Six out of 10 believe in the devil and the existence of hell.
Republicans emerged as the most spiritual of all the respondents in the
survey -- which included demographic divisions for men, women, three
political parties and three levels of education. Republicans' numbers
eclipsed results in all those categories.
The poll revealed a distinct partisan divide.
It found that 93 percent of the respondents who were Republican believe
in God; the figure was 81 percent among Democrats, who only edged out the
GOP when it came to belief in miracles. The poll found 78 percent of the
Democrats believe in miracles, compared with 76 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 82 percent of the Republicans believe in the survival of
the soul after death, that Jesus is the Son of God and in the existence of
heaven. Among Democrats, 68 percent believe in life after death and that
Jesus is the Son of God, while 73 percent believe in heaven.
More than three quarters -- 76 percent -- of Republicans believe in both
angels and the Resurrection of Christ; those figures were 70 percent and 68
percent among Democrats, respectively.
Members of both parties do not discount the existence of evil. The poll
found that 67 percent of Republicans believe in both the devil and hell; the
figure stood at 61 percent among Democrats in both categories as well.
New Age influences do not resonate much among Americans.
"What may be more surprising is that significant minorities believe in
ghosts, UFOs, witches, astrology and in reincarnation," the poll found.
Indeed, only 21 percent believe in reincarnation: "That you were once
another person," the poll stipulated. A quarter put credence in astrology,
28 percent believe that witches exist, and 34 percent believe in UFOs
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 12:56:33 PM |
|
|
In <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>, bob young
<alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains,
the steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic edifice of religious superstition.
But not in the US. From the same poll:
"Only 21 percent said they 'were once another person,' 25 percent believed
in astrology, 28 percent said witches exist and 34 percent said UFOs were
real."
Only. Huh. "Only."
Sheesh...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 09:51:59 AM |
|
|
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>, wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains, the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
€€ Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
|
|
|
| User: "MichaelC" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 01:04:15 PM |
|
|
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, the carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
Mike
--
? R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
|
|
|
| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 03:58:51 PM |
|
|
In article <P8Xrf.40670$q%.18590@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, the carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
** "Actually" is a tipoff word that invites comparison to the standard
preface of sailors trying to pass off fictional sea stories as factual by
using the introductory statement: "Now this is no *****."
"You can fool some of the people some of the time ... ... ... ."
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
|
|
|
| User: "MichaelC" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 04:07:00 PM |
|
|
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612051358510001@192.168.1.101...
In article <P8Xrf.40670$q%.18590@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
alaspectrum@netvigator.com
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact
remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned
out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, >
** "Actually" is a tipoff word that invites comparison to the standard
preface of sailors trying to pass off fictional sea stories as factual by
using the introductory statement: "Now this is no *****."
Wrong, but you are welcome to live in the fantasy world of your choice.
But, if you prefer:
"The carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no
evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
I suggest you go googling.
Mike
.
|
|
|
| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 06:25:22 PM |
|
|
In article <8QZrf.46978$tV6.16065@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612051358510001@192.168.1.101...
In article <P8Xrf.40670$q%.18590@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
alaspectrum@netvigator.com
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact
remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned
out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, >
** "Actually" is a tipoff word that invites comparison to the standard
preface of sailors trying to pass off fictional sea stories as factual by
using the introductory statement: "Now this is no *****."
Wrong, but you are welcome to live in the fantasy world of your choice.
** I used to work for the U. S. Navy.
But, if you prefer:
"The carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no
evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
I suggest you go googling.
*** One disadvantage of Google is that it doesn't differentiate between
apologist propaganda and reality.
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "thomas p" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
27 Dec 2005 12:32:02 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:07:00 GMT, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612051358510001@192.168.1.101...
In article <P8Xrf.40670$q%.18590@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
alaspectrum@netvigator.com
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact
remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned
out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, >
** "Actually" is a tipoff word that invites comparison to the standard
preface of sailors trying to pass off fictional sea stories as factual by
using the introductory statement: "Now this is no *****."
Wrong, but you are welcome to live in the fantasy world of your choice.
But, if you prefer:
"The carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no
evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
I suggest you go googling.
I suggest you stop living in a fantasy world. The Shroud is a joke,
and only people who are determined to believe it is more than that
have any doubt about it.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
.
|
|
|
| User: "MichaelC" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
27 Dec 2005 02:13:02 PM |
|
|
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:c613r15gm6v10omnevisvge778664mf1em@4ax.com...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:07:00 GMT, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612051358510001@192.168.1.101...
In article <P8Xrf.40670$q%.18590@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
"MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
alaspectrum@netvigator.com
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact
remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing
the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned
out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, >
** "Actually" is a tipoff word that invites comparison to the standard
preface of sailors trying to pass off fictional sea stories as factual
by
using the introductory statement: "Now this is no *****."
Wrong, but you are welcome to live in the fantasy world of your choice.
But, if you prefer:
"The carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no
evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's
traditional
date.
I suggest you go googling.
I suggest you stop living in a fantasy world. The Shroud is a joke,
and only people who are determined to believe it is more than that
have any doubt about it.
Before any one else misunderstands me, the Shroud does not factor into my
religious beliefs. I have no skin in the game either way.
However, the fact remains that the carbon dating that was done is in
question. Since Mr. Lee doesn't understand that "go google" DOESN'T mean "I
have no citation for that statement", I'll provide these below.
http://www.greggbraden.com/newsletter01.html#shroundofturin
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39dadac915fe.htm
http://www.ortholog.com/archive/deserving_memes/turin_shround_radiocarbon_da
tes_question.php
Mike
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
27 Dec 2005 12:19:56 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:07:00 GMT, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612051358510001@192.168.1.101...
In article <P8Xrf.40670$q%.18590@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2612050751590001@192.168.1.101...
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
alaspectrum@netvigator.com
wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact
remains,
the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned
out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, >
** "Actually" is a tipoff word that invites comparison to the standard
preface of sailors trying to pass off fictional sea stories as factual by
using the introductory statement: "Now this is no *****."
Wrong, but you are welcome to live in the fantasy world of your choice.
What "fantasy world of his choice", lying Christian hypocrite?
But, if you prefer:
"The carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no
evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
I suggest you go googling.
Translation: you have no evidence to support you. But then how could
you? It was known to be a forgery at the time it was discovered.
And while you're at it, why do you expect us to do your work for you?
Mike
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
27 Dec 2005 12:19:56 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:04:15 GMT, "MichaelC"
<mikecraney@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
?? Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Actually, the carbon dating that resulted in those dates has been largely
discredited due to errors in the process. At this time, there's no evidence
that fixes the Shroud at any other time locus other than it's traditional
date.
Wrong. You're repeating lies by snake-oil merchants.
Which you have been corrected about several times. It is no longer an
honest mistake on your part.
Mike
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
27 Dec 2005 12:58:24 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:51:59 -0800, (ۥR.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>, wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains, the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
€€ Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Yet they still insist it's genuine, inventing rationalisations and
slurs on those who investigated it.
.
|
|
|
| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
27 Dec 2005 07:42:54 PM |
|
|
In article <bm33r19hmtckfsehrvc159cd8ljd4e7cr0@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:51:59 -0800, (ۥR.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <43AFDFBE.BCB28F77@netvigator.com>,
alaspectrum@netvigator.com wrote:
J Young wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
Traditional religion is still the bedrock of America,
For 'bedrock' read 'sickness'
Whatever figures my namesake finds possible to drag up the fact remains, the
steady march of scientific progress is slowly and surely trashing the
pathetic
edifice of religious superstition.
€€ Indeed, and a good example is the Shroud of Turin, which turned out
to be over a thousand years less than the age that True Believers so
proudly claimed.
Yet they still insist it's genuine, inventing rationalisations and
slurs on those who investigated it.
€€ Indeed. Human beings are somewhat less than eager to admit they were
duped.
- "I know that most men, including those who are at ease with problems of
the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of
conclusions which they had delighted in explaining to colleagues, which
they had proudly taught to others, and which they had woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives."
- L. Tolstoy
cheers
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Sanitys little helper" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 04:39:11 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:07:45 -0500, J Young wrote:
Majority in U.S. believes in God
If anything, that actually makes it less likely to be true.
--
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we eat, drink and be merry.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
.
|
|
|
| User: "Moishe Lipshitz" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 05:22:15 PM |
|
|
"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:1ij6vt5pfovw0$.mfla8ffodjzf$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:07:45 -0500, J Young wrote:
Majority in U.S. believes in God
If anything, that actually makes it less likely to be true.
Actually, that's a stupid statement.
--
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we eat, drink and be merry.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
.
|
|
|
| User: "thomas p" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 04:13:09 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 23:22:15 GMT, "Moishe Lipshitz"
<moish@thewailingwall.biz> wrote:
"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:1ij6vt5pfovw0$.mfla8ffodjzf$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:07:45 -0500, J Young wrote:
Majority in U.S. believes in God
If anything, that actually makes it less likely to be true.
Actually, that's a stupid statement.
No, there is some connection. The majority of people are poorly
educated and are more likely to hold irrational beliefs than the
minority of well educated people. That the majority believes in
something does not mean it is untrue, but popularity is hardly any
indication of reliability.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 04:09:48 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:07:45 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051224-095506-7720r.htm
Majority in U.S. believes in God
So? These are the descendants of the same folks who believed that bats
were birds, the earth was flat, and that the moon was made of green
cheese.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Alistair_Sim" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
26 Dec 2005 06:16:46 PM |
|
|
So what?Whatever the majority believes becomes truth for everyone. So
the majority has a monopoly on truth? consensus by majority. The
majority can believe anything they wish so long as it is not forced
down my throat. I think it shows how ignorant the majority is of
Science. When most Americans think that not any country exist accept
the Usa, and most can't even point to texas on the map, that
demonstrates what an educated populace we have; even college graduates
for the most part flunk Geography. People in the USA have been
brainwashed by the corporate news media and the Educational system that
they really think this is the Greatest country in the world and the
only country. Idiots
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "George Metesky" |
|
| Title: Re: Majority in U.S. believes in God |
25 Dec 2005 12:18:37 PM |
|
|
What's unmentioned is that less than half of Americans can correctly
state whether the Earth moves around the Sun or the Sun moves around
the Earth, and the period of time in which it occurs. (Per Seth
Shostack in a SETI podcast last month.)
-- George
.
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
