Religions > Atheism > Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar"
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Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar" |
Bush battered by US pessimism, leadership doubts
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
Thu Mar 16, 12:32 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Deep doubts about the Iraq war and pessimism
about America's future have shattered public confidence in President
George W. Bush and helped drive his approval ratings to their lowest
level ever, pollsters say. As Bush launched a series of speeches to
drum up support for the war, a new round of opinion polls found
growing skepticism about Iraq and distrust of Bush. His image declined
sharply, with one poll finding "incompetent" to be the most frequent
description of his leadership.
Bush's approval rating dipped as low as 33 percent in one recent poll
after a string of bad news for the White House, including uproars over
a now-dead Arab port deal, a secret eavesdropping program, a series of
ethics scandals involving high-profile Republicans and a bungled
response to Hurricane Katrina. The political storm has left Bush's
second-term legislative agenda in tatters, threatened Republican
control of the U.S. Congress in November's elections and shredded his
personal image as an effective leader.
"His strong points as a president were being seen as personally
credible, as a strong leader. That has all but disappeared," said
Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, whose latest
independent poll found a dramatic decline in Bush's credibility.
A majority of Americans, 56 percent, believe Bush is "out of touch,"
the poll found. When asked for a one-word description of Bush, the
most frequent response was "incompetent," followed by "good," "idiot"
and "liar." In February 2005, the most frequent reply was "honest."
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060316/pl_nm/bush_politics_dc
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16 Mar 2006 11:49:31 PM |
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Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar"
Should we call this era 'The Great Awakening'?
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| User: "KANGAROOISTAN" |
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17 Mar 2006 08:57:27 AM |
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DanaPointe wrote:
Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar"
FLATTERY WILL GET YOU NO WHERE WITH BUSH
YOU SHOULD HEAR WHAT WE CALL HIM IN AUSTRALIA
1% OF THE WORLDS POPULATION VOTED HIM IN
THE OTHER 99% HATE HIS GUTS
SAD TO SEE PEOPLE SEE AMERICANS AS THE GREATEST THREAT MANKIND EVER
FACED IN ALL HISTORY
WHEN ITS THE 1% , YES 50 million is wot i heard voted for bush
GET TO DESTROY THE ENTIRE WORLD AND ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT COMING
Should we call this era 'The Great Awakening'?
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| User: "Carmen" |
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17 Mar 2006 09:27:12 AM |
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KANGAROOISTAN wrote:
DanaPointe wrote:
Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar"
FLATTERY WILL GET YOU NO WHERE WITH BUSH
YOU SHOULD HEAR WHAT WE CALL HIM IN AUSTRALIA
1% OF THE WORLDS POPULATION VOTED HIM IN
THE OTHER 99% HATE HIS GUTS
SAD TO SEE PEOPLE SEE AMERICANS AS THE GREATEST THREAT MANKIND EVER
FACED IN ALL HISTORY
WHEN ITS THE 1% , YES 50 million is wot i heard voted for bush
GET TO DESTROY THE ENTIRE WORLD AND ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT COMING
Those of us who voted for someone else are very about it too:
http://www.sorryeverybody.com/
Carmen
Yes, I'm on there
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| User: "Carmen" |
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17 Mar 2006 09:28:41 AM |
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Carmen wrote:
KANGAROOISTAN wrote:
DanaPointe wrote:
Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar"
FLATTERY WILL GET YOU NO WHERE WITH BUSH
YOU SHOULD HEAR WHAT WE CALL HIM IN AUSTRALIA
1% OF THE WORLDS POPULATION VOTED HIM IN
THE OTHER 99% HATE HIS GUTS
SAD TO SEE PEOPLE SEE AMERICANS AS THE GREATEST THREAT MANKIND EVER
FACED IN ALL HISTORY
WHEN ITS THE 1% , YES 50 million is wot i heard voted for bush
GET TO DESTROY THE ENTIRE WORLD AND ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT COMING
Those of us who voted for someone else are very about it too:
http://www.sorryeverybody.com/
Carmen
Yes, I'm on there
Make that "very sorry" about it.
Carmen
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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17 Mar 2006 01:55:27 AM |
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On 16 Mar 2006 21:49:31 -0800, "DanaPointe" <dana@presidency.com>
wrote:
Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar"
Should we call this era 'The Great Awakening'?
There is not going to be any great awakening unless there is some
great deceiving in the first place, and WMD or 9/11 doesn't count.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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16 Mar 2006 10:48:25 PM |
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I guess the next election frauds will have to be even more well-planned than
the previous two to "save the führer".
Failing that, something similar to 911 must "happen" just prior to the
elections.
And if even that fails to push enough dumbarses toward voting for the
führer, there's always the possibility of martial law and "postponement" of
the elections for one invented reason or another... remember - with
shrubbenführer nothing's impossible (sadly)...
(I absolutely, positively, _hope_ to be wrong on this - but after all I've
seen coming from shrubbenführer...)
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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16 Mar 2006 06:19:19 PM |
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In article <kdvj1257anuu6kmvhumieu3d9hcj521lli@4ax.com>,
sgt bob <sgtbob@no.mail.biz> wrote:
Bush battered by US pessimism, leadership doubts
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
Thu Mar 16, 12:32 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Deep doubts about the Iraq war and pessimism
about America's future have shattered public confidence in President
George W. Bush and helped drive his approval ratings to their lowest
level ever, pollsters say. As Bush launched a series of speeches to
drum up support for the war, a new round of opinion polls found
growing skepticism about Iraq and distrust of Bush. His image declined
sharply, with one poll finding "incompetent" to be the most frequent
description of his leadership.
Bush's approval rating dipped as low as 33 percent in one recent poll
after a string of bad news for the White House, including uproars over
a now-dead Arab port deal, a secret eavesdropping program, a series of
ethics scandals involving high-profile Republicans and a bungled
response to Hurricane Katrina. The political storm has left Bush's
second-term legislative agenda in tatters, threatened Republican
control of the U.S. Congress in November's elections and shredded his
personal image as an effective leader.
"His strong points as a president were being seen as personally
credible, as a strong leader. That has all but disappeared," said
Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, whose latest
independent poll found a dramatic decline in Bush's credibility.
A majority of Americans, 56 percent, believe Bush is "out of touch,"
the poll found. When asked for a one-word description of Bush, the
most frequent response was "incompetent," followed by "good," "idiot"
and "liar." In February 2005, the most frequent reply was "honest."
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060316/pl_nm/bush_politics_dc
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
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| User: "RobH" |
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16 Mar 2006 06:31:39 PM |
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it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Majority of Americans call Bush "out of touch," "incompetent," "idiot," "liar" |
20 Mar 2006 01:44:40 PM |
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"RobH" <Rob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9788BC7DB7DF7lpwxmtdslt@207.217.125.201...
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
Welllllllllllllll you can't trust a fella with too much book knowledge can
you!
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Mar 2006 02:37:38 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:44:40 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"RobH" <Rob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9788BC7DB7DF7lpwxmtdslt@207.217.125.201...
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
Welllllllllllllll you can't trust a fella with too much book knowledge can
you!
Indeed. "My Pet Goat" demonstrates that.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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23 Mar 2006 10:12:54 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:44:40 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"RobH" <Rob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9788BC7DB7DF7lpwxmtdslt@207.217.125.201...
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
Welllllllllllllll you can't trust a fella with too much book knowledge can
you!
Indeed. "My Pet Goat" demonstrates that.
Not to nitpick, but the title was "The Pet Goat." I get annoyed when
even liberals mistake what the title was. ;-)
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| User: "stoney" |
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24 Mar 2006 10:31:51 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:12:54 -0800, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:44:40 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"RobH" <Rob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9788BC7DB7DF7lpwxmtdslt@207.217.125.201...
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
Welllllllllllllll you can't trust a fella with too much book knowledge can
you!
Indeed. "My Pet Goat" demonstrates that.
Not to nitpick, but the title was "The Pet Goat." I get annoyed when
even liberals mistake what the title was. ;-)
No worries.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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16 Mar 2006 07:38:19 PM |
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it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
i don't believe the lying monkey was actually elected nor do i
believe that any future 'elections' with electronic voting machines
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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16 Mar 2006 09:11:25 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:31:39 GMT, RobH <Rob@aol.com> wrote:
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I think a lot of Americans identify with someone who is an incompetent
lying idiot. Just look at many of the posters in these newsgroups. It's a
shame that Americas best and brightest could probably never get elected
president.
I'd have to agree. There's a somewhat old saying that "the quickest way to kill
half of U.S.-ers is to take the labels off of everything" - it's not entirely
satire, I'm sad to say. :-\
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16 Mar 2006 09:25:18 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:19:19 -0500, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
As Lincoln put it, you can fool some of the people all of the time...
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "duke" |
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17 Mar 2006 03:10:34 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:19:19 -0500, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com>
wrote:
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I do. We do. America does.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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20 Mar 2006 02:33:49 PM |
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In article <cd9m12tr5l6mqaf6hbh281u4kgig0u4eo2@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:19:19 -0500, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com>
wrote:
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I do.
i should have said anyone sane.
We do.
the insane
America does.
only the insane.
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17 Mar 2006 09:46:44 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:10:34 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:19:19 -0500, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com>
wrote:
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I do. We do. America does.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
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I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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18 Mar 2006 08:56:23 AM |
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Adam H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:10:34 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:19:19 -0500, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com>
wrote:
it is astonishing that anyone believes him; anyone at all.
I do. We do. America does.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
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I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
'Republican', but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I'll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
I READ ABOUT A FLESH EATING BACTERIA THAT MAY INTEREST YOU
BUT NOT LIKELY TO FIND MUCH IN THE PLANT WORLD THAT GETS LOWER THAN
BUSH AND CO
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Mar 2006 06:12:42 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing. I wouldn't hesitate to vote for a 3rd
term.
AND, his rating is higher than Congress, which is 50% 'rat.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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18 Mar 2006 06:20:43 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing.
That thing being Bush.
I wouldn't hesitate to vote for a 3rd
term.
That's because you're a cultist.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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19 Mar 2006 04:39:56 PM |
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On 19 Mar 2006 00:20:43 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing.
That thing being Bush.
I wouldn't hesitate to vote for a 3rd
term.
That's because you're a cultist.
Do your country a favor next time - vote libertarian.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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19 Mar 2006 09:55:02 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 19 Mar 2006 00:20:43 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing.
That thing being Bush.
I wouldn't hesitate to vote for a 3rd
term.
That's because you're a cultist.
Do your country a favor next time - vote libertarian.
I am a libertarian, which is why I'm voting Democratic. I can't stand
the conservative intrusion into our daily life.
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20 Mar 2006 05:54:54 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:55:02 -0800, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Do your country a favor next time - vote libertarian.
I am a libertarian, which is why I'm voting Democratic. I can't stand
the conservative intrusion into our daily life.
Then you are a dumbass 'rat.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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19 Mar 2006 04:49:28 PM |
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http://www.nysun.com/article/29357
Harvard, Chicago, and the 'Lobby'
New York Sun Editorial
March 17, 2006
"The combination of unwavering U.S.
support for Israel and the related
effort to spread democracy throughout
the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security. ...
Why has the United States
been willing to set aside
its own security in order to
advance the interests of another state?...
The explanation lies in the
unmatched power of the Israel
Lobby.
Were it not for the Lobby's
ability to manipulate the
American political system,
the relationship between
Israel and the United States
would be far less intimate
than it is today.... AIPAC,
which is a de facto agent
for a foreign government,
has a stranglehold
on the U.S. Congress....
manipulating the media...
Pressure from Israel and the
Lobby was not the only factor
behind the U.S. decision to
attack Iraq in March 2003,
but it was a critical element....
the United States has a
terrorism problem in good
part because it is so closely
allied with Israel...
Viewed objectively,
Israel's past and present
conduct offers no moral basis
for privileging it over the
Palestinians...
Israel and its American supporters
want the United States to deal with
any and all threats to Israel's security.
If their efforts to shape U.S. policy succeed, ...
Israel gets a free hand with the Palestinians,
and the United States does most of the fighting,
dying, rebuilding, and paying."
Sound like the rantings of
President Ahmadinejad of Iran
or Louisiana anti-Semite David Duke?
It turns out that those are
selections from a paper issued
this month by the Harvard
University Kennedy School
of Government in its
"Faculty Research Working Papers Series"
and written by two American professors,
Stephen M. Walt and John Mearsheimer.
The paper, posted on the Internet,
is starting to attract attention
not only because of its substance
but because of the affiliations
of the authors.
Mr. Walt is the academic
dean of Harvard's Kennedy School,
a graduate school for students
preparing for careers in public service.
He also holds the Robert and Renee
Belfer professorship in international
affairs at the Kennedy School.
Mr. Mearsheimer is the R. Wendell
Harrison distinguished service
professor of political science
and co-director of the Program
on International Security Policy
at the University of Chicago.
Messrs. Mearsheimer and
Walt go out of their way to
condemn anti-Semitism,
but with their references
to this mysterious "Lobby,"
their accusation that it is an
agent of Israel manipulating the
press and the political system,
they are flirting with stereotypes
that have historically been deadly.
They claim that invoking
anti-Semitism only chills
debate,
so we'll put that question aside for now,
though it will be interesting to see
how Jewish donors and professors of
these universities react to these
charges along with the rest of
American Jewry.
What we're struck with,
as much as the professors'
investment in the classic
stereotypes,
is the weakness of their argument.
If the Islamists only hate America
because of our support for Israel,
why are they setting off
bombs in Indonesia and Spain,
which are hardly in the
vanguard of support for Israel?
How would abandoning Israel assuage
the angry Islamists rather than
encouraging them to press on to
completing their end goal of making
all of America subject to Islamic law?
Why do the actions of the so-called Israel lobby -
AIPAC is an American organization of Americans -
constitute manipulation
worthy of an 83-page paper,
while the extensive lobbying
activities of Saudi Arabia and
its allies in the petroleum
industry merit hardly a mention,
let alone condemnation?
Might the "critical element" in
the decision to go to war in Iraq
not have been the manipulative
"Lobby" but rather the attacks
of September 11, 2001?
And how to account for the
participation in the Iraq war
of foreign allies such as Poland,
where the "Israel Lobby" is
essentially nonexistent?
Israel's allies in America have
no fear of debate on any of these
points because they have by far
the better of the arguments on
the merits.
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20 Mar 2006 05:54:03 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:49:28 GMT, " torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nysun.com/article/29357
Harvard, Chicago, and the 'Lobby'
New York Sun Editorial
March 17, 2006
"The combination of unwavering U.S.
support for Israel and the related
effort to spread democracy throughout
the region has inflamed Arab and
Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security. ...
Why has the United States
been willing to set aside
its own security in order to
advance the interests of another state?...
The explanation lies in the
unmatched power of the Israel
Lobby.
Oh, you mean the small and helpless good guys in the middle east?
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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18 Mar 2006 07:24:24 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com>
wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing. I wouldn't hesitate to vote
for a 3rd term.
Why don't you go right ahead and do that? While you're at it, convince all
your right-wing friends to vote for him again. That would be fewer votes
for whoever gets the GOP nomination.
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19 Mar 2006 04:45:21 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:24:24 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com>
wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing. I wouldn't hesitate to vote
for a 3rd term.
Why don't you go right ahead and do that? While you're at it, convince all
your right-wing friends to vote for him again. That would be fewer votes
for whoever gets the GOP nomination.
We're not going to vote for him again. He can't run.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "towelie" |
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19 Mar 2006 05:11:37 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:24:24 -0600, "towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:46:44 -0500, Adam H <adam@mailinator.com>
wrote:
No, America doesn't. A >60% disapproval rate makes you a liar.
That's only disapproval of one thing. I wouldn't hesitate to vote
for a 3rd term.
Why don't you go right ahead and do that? While you're at it,
convince all your right-wing friends to vote for him again. That
would be fewer votes for whoever gets the GOP nomination.
We're not going to vote for him again. He can't run.
There's no law that says you can't write him in. Go ahead, be a rebel for
once. After all, Jesus was a rebel.
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20 Mar 2006 05:57:50 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:11:37 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
We're not going to vote for him again. He can't run.
There's no law that says you can't write him in. Go ahead, be a rebel for
once. After all, Jesus was a rebel.
No, my vote will be reserved for the next President of the United States, a
Republican.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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