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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Bible John" |
| Date: |
22 Oct 2005 11:04:27 PM |
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Maleboge.org deceptions? |
Why is this group all about one man? Yet does not address the others
below?
Myself
Pastor Dave
John Weatherly
Carl Walter
Vera
Davey
and
Bible Bob
Steve Winter
and the others I did not mention
I dont know. It just seems like a contradiction of the group
description and a good way to pick on one man.
Description: A forum focusing on the claims and activities of religious
deceivers and frauds, including self-ordained ministers, creationists
and intelligent design advocates, and others using religious guises,
self-founded "ministries," and other methods as a means to bilk or
deceive. (37 members)
Debates by Ultra Maroon - 19 new of 19 messages - 5 authors
12:35pm
It's all about the dollars by Dave - 4 new of 4 messages - 2
authors Oct 14
Jason and the Donations. by Uncle Davey - 8 new of 9 messages -
5 authors Sep 25
Who is "Doctor" Gastrich and why is he in my email? by
lizzardwoman - 19 new of 19 messages - 8 authors Sep 24
Jason & Katrina by Therion Ware - 8 new of 8 messages - 3
authors Sep 21
Jason & Katrina by Dave - 13 new of 13 messages - 7 authors
Sep 15
Gastrich takes the high road, NOT by Dave - 3 new of 3 messages
- 3 authors Sep 13
lies, oversights, exaggerations, or some other form of mistake by
David D. - 1 new of 1 message - 1 author Sep 12
New Debate Challenge for Gastrich by Therion Ware - 7 new of 7
messages - 4 authors Sep 2
Money-making schemes of JCSM by Harvest Dancer - 7 new of 7
messages - 4 authors Aug 31
The real motive behind Gastrich debates? by Mr. Neil - 4 new of
4 messages - 3 authors Aug 14
Gastrich effective bails on the Krueger debate by Mr. Neil - 2
new of 2 messages - 2 authors Aug 14
Gastrich to offer reward for a Bible error...someday... by Mr.
Neil - 2 new of 2 messages - 2 authors
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 02:58:50 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:04:27 -0700 in alt.atheism, Bible John (Bible
John <john.doggett@x-files.gov>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Why is this group all about one man? Yet does not address the others
below?
Myself
Pastor Dave
John Weatherly
Carl Walter
Vera
Davey
and
Bible Bob
Steve Winter
and the others I did not mention
I dont know. It just seems like a contradiction of the group
description and a good way to pick on one man.
Description: A forum focusing on the claims and activities of religious
deceivers and frauds, including self-ordained ministers, creationists
and intelligent design advocates, and others using religious guises,
self-founded "ministries," and other methods as a means to bilk or
deceive. (37 members)
So you're admitting that you "bilk & deceive," while accusing the
others named above of similar behaviour?
Well, they do say that confession is good for the soul....
Debates by Ultra Maroon - 19 new of 19 messages - 5 authors
12:35pm
It's all about the dollars by Dave - 4 new of 4 messages - 2
authors Oct 14
Jason and the Donations. by Uncle Davey - 8 new of 9 messages -
5 authors Sep 25
Who is "Doctor" Gastrich and why is he in my email? by
lizzardwoman - 19 new of 19 messages - 8 authors Sep 24
Jason & Katrina by Therion Ware - 8 new of 8 messages - 3
authors Sep 21
Jason & Katrina by Dave - 13 new of 13 messages - 7 authors
Sep 15
Gastrich takes the high road, NOT by Dave - 3 new of 3 messages
- 3 authors Sep 13
lies, oversights, exaggerations, or some other form of mistake by
David D. - 1 new of 1 message - 1 author Sep 12
New Debate Challenge for Gastrich by Therion Ware - 7 new of 7
messages - 4 authors Sep 2
Money-making schemes of JCSM by Harvest Dancer - 7 new of 7
messages - 4 authors Aug 31
The real motive behind Gastrich debates? by Mr. Neil - 4 new of
4 messages - 3 authors Aug 14
Gastrich effective bails on the Krueger debate by Mr. Neil - 2
new of 2 messages - 2 authors Aug 14
Gastrich to offer reward for a Bible error...someday... by Mr.
Neil - 2 new of 2 messages - 2 authors
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| User: "Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 10:16:34 AM |
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Bible John wrote:
Why is this group all about one man? Yet does not address
the others below?
Myself
Snip
"Why not pay attention to *me*?" I'm sure that's the real question.
The problem is that someone who got barely above a "B" average in a
*Christian* college, of all places, and who, as far as we know, does
not engage in various schemes to extract money from others under the
guise of a "ministry" does not merit our notice. But thanks for
asking.
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| User: "Bible John" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 11:00:30 AM |
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In article <1130080594.566154.30120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
Snip
"Why not pay attention to *me*?" I'm sure that's the real question.
The problem is that someone who got barely above a "B" average in a
*Christian* college, of all places, and who, as far as we know, does
not engage in various schemes to extract money from others under the
guise of a "ministry" does not merit our notice. But thanks for
asking.
I'm amazed at the lack of reading abilities by the atheists which leads
me to bet that your education was bad. It does not matter if I got
barley above a B, also consider how difficult some private colleges are.
I got a 3.67 at a community college an did not spend nearly the effort.
Also if you had read the post in its full form you would have known that
I was posting my GPA in the bible, theology and ministry areas which was
well beyond a B, unless of coarse you think that a 3.4x GPA is bad.
Back to your reading abilities. The post was never about me, but about
christians in general here. You pay all your attention to Jason and
leave the rest of us out. You are attacking Jason because he's the only
way you can argue your useless points to. You are silenced when dealing
with the rest of us.
Davey claims that Jason is the only one posting the truth which angers
me, because that leaves the rest of us out. But then again if you are
attacking Jason because of the money schemes, then that would be just
cause. You are right I am not involved in any such activities!
John
--
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
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John 14:6 Jesus answered, ģI am the way and
the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
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| User: "u j b uj" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 11:14:28 AM |
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Bible John wrote:
In article <1130080594.566154.30120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
Snip
"Why not pay attention to *me*?" I'm sure that's the real question.
The problem is that someone who got barely above a "B" average in a
*Christian* college, of all places, and who, as far as we know, does
not engage in various schemes to extract money from others under the
guise of a "ministry" does not merit our notice. But thanks for
asking.
I'm amazed at the lack of reading abilities by the atheists
You question anyone's reading when you post as you do! You should have
been a stand up comedian, you are a lark... :)
which leads
me to bet that your education was bad. It does not matter if I got
barley above a B, also consider how difficult some private colleges are.
I got a 3.67 at a community college an did not spend nearly the effort.
I'm sure that is what you 'got', not what was do or earned.
Also if you had read the post in its full form you would have known that
I was posting my GPA in the bible, theology and ministry areas which was
well beyond a B, unless of coarse you think that a 3.4x GPA is bad.
The 3.4 is great if earned and not as a gift. Everyone knows some small
colleges give out good grades so as to not kill the golden goose. So far
you have shown nice grades, poor skills. Start thinking you may have
been flimflammed, we do.
ujb
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 11:25:08 PM |
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In <john.doggett-39DEA4.09003023102005@News-West.newsfeeds.com>, Bible
John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
The post was never about me
Oh yes it is. You are just pissed because nobody's paying attention to you.
That's one of the reasons you keep cross-posting into alt.atheism, to get
attention.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://www.nola.com/
"FEMA email warned of disaster"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C5332250C
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| User: "Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 11:22:41 AM |
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The Gastrich wannabe speaks!
Bible John wrote:
In article <1130080594.566154.30120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
Snip
"Why not pay attention to *me*?" I'm sure that's the
real question. The problem is that someone who got
barely above a "B" average in a *Christian* college, of
all places, and who, as far as we know, does not engage
in various schemes to extract money from others under
the guise of a "ministry" does not merit our notice. But
thanks for asking.
I'm amazed at the lack of reading abilities by the atheists...
I'm not an atheist.
...which leads me to bet that your education was bad.
Does it? I'm much more educated than you, and there's nothing wrong
with my reading abilities. In fact, as near as I can tell, it's yours
that prove deficient. The description of the group to which you refer
clearly identifies the perpetuation of fraud as the qualification that
gets our attention, yet *you* whined because we seem to be ignoring the
rest of the "Christians" in the group. Spin that however you like.
The bottom line is that you're whining because you aren't getting near
enough attention to satisfy you, which supports all of the statements
about your ego.
It does not matter if I got barley above a B, also
consider how difficult some private colleges are.
I'm aware of how difficult some private colleges are. My master's is
from a private college. However, I am also aware of the ease with
which one can get a Bible degree. Back in the day, I took about a
dozen classes from a couple of major Bible schools, barely cracked the
books, and darn near aced all of them (in fact, I did ace, I think,
three of them). That's because all Bible schools expect one to do is
memorize what they're told and repeat it. You're not expected to
*think* about what you're "learning" and God help you if you ever
disagree with what you're being "taught."
That's why I wrote what I wrote. If you could barely finish above a
"B" average in a Christian school, it's no wonder you find yourself not
marketable, at all.
I got a 3.67 at a community college...
While most of my community college work, no doubt, was finished while
you were still in diapers (if you had even been born yet), it was
completed at 4.0.
...an did not spend nearly the effort.
Maybe you should have.
Also if you had read the post in its full form you would
have known that I was posting my GPA in the bible, theology
and ministry areas which was well beyond a B...
I also saw some that were in the "C" and "D" grade category. I refer
you to the post in question:
http://groups.google.com/group/free.christians/msg/14b33a25b56f4425?hl=en&
And note the following:
"Theology (Biblical and Historical)
3.7
2.7 [editorial note" This is a "C"]
3
1.7 [editorial note: This is a "D"]
GPA=2.78 C+"
A C+ average. We're supposed to be impressed? We live in an era in
which a college degree doesn't mean much unless you have a competitive
GPA. So let's look further:
"Bible (doctrine)
2.7
3
3.7
4.3
3
4.3
3
GPA=3.43 B
Ministry (application)
3.3
3.7
3.7
4
4.3
4
3.3
3.7
3.7
4
3.7
1.7
GPA=3.59 B"
I see a "C" and a "D" intermixed in all of that, and I'm not sure how
one gets a 4.3 in anything when the scale stops at 4.0. Regardless, if
you bring this to me as a hiring manager for a position that has a
requirement for a degree (but no specific degree, in other words, an
accredited Bible degree is qualifying), then you're out of the pool. I
can get candidates with 4.0 averages in their majors. Why should I
talk to you?
...unless of coarse you think that a 3.4x GPA is bad."
According to your message, your undergraduate GPA was just above a "B:"
"I have a BA in Ministry and a AS in Business
BA GPA=3.07..."
Not even close to impressive when I can talk to people with 3.9 and 4.0
GPAs from Bible schools, accredited or not, and I routinely interact
with that caliber of person in hard science, information technology,
and math areas. So what did you do that should impress me?
Back to your reading abilities.
Nothing wrong with 'em.
The post was never about me, but about christians in
general here.
No, it really was about you. You headed the list, and not one of those
other "Christians" is making any bellyaching noises about being ignored
by maleboge. The only one doing that is you.
You pay all your attention to Jason and leave the rest
of us out.
At the moment, Gastrich is all we really seem to have time for. Unlike
you, we have lives outside of Usenet and even the maleboge group, and,
as explained, Gastrich is involved in what we consider fraud. Therion
asked you directly, and now I will: Are you involved in fraud, bilking
others, or deception? That's what gets our attention. Now, frankly, I
think you're an idiot, but I don't think you're a fraud. If it makes
you feel any better, you're a *genuine* idiot.
You are attacking Jason because he's the only
way you can argue your useless points to.
No, we are "attacking Jason" because we believe that he acts
dishonestly and does so hiding behind a "Christian 'ministry.'"
You are silenced when dealing with the rest of
us.
Oh, that's not true, at all. I can go and count quite a few comments
posted in reply to you that never got answers. I can do the same with
pretty much everyone else on your list.
Davey claims that Jason is the only one posting the
truth...
No, Davey has never claimed that Gastrich is the *only* person posting
the truth.
...which angers me...
Read what he's actually written and understand it, and you won't have
that problem.
...because that leaves the rest of us out. But then
again if you are attacking Jason because of the money
schemes...
Comes the dawn.
...then that would be just cause. You are right I am not
involved in any such activities!
Then your response to me was a complete waste of time, wasn't it?
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| User: "Bible John" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 04:33:21 PM |
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In article <1130084561.616371.258900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not an atheist.
Then what are you? A devil?
Also if you had read the post in its full form you would
have known that I was posting my GPA in the bible, theology
and ministry areas which was well beyond a B...
I also saw some that were in the "C" and "D" grade category. I refer
you to the post in question:
You saw wrong as usual.
http://groups.google.com/group/free.christians/msg/14b33a25b56f4425?hl=en&
And note the following:
"Theology (Biblical and Historical)
3.7
2.7 [editorial note" This is a "C"]
B-
3
1.7 [editorial note: This is a "D"]
C-
GPA=2.78 C+"
A C+ average. We're supposed to be impressed? We live in an era in
which a college degree doesn't mean much unless you have a competitive
GPA. So let's look further:
I said in the area of theology you idiot. There is a difference between
Bible, theology and ministry. Say what bible college did you attend?
You did not learn much.
"Bible (doctrine)
2.7
3
3.7
4.3
3
4.3
3
GPA=3.43 B
Ministry (application)
3.3
3.7
3.7
4
4.3
4
3.3
3.7
3.7
4
3.7
1.7
GPA=3.59 B"
I got one C- in my final ministry course. But no D's.
I see a "C" and a "D" intermixed in all of that, and I'm not sure how
one gets a 4.3 in anything when the scale stops at 4.0.
4.3=A+
3.3=B+
2.3=C+
1.3=D+
Regardless, if
you bring this to me as a hiring manager for a position that has a
requirement for a degree (but no specific degree, in other words, an
accredited Bible degree is qualifying), then you're out of the pool. I
can get candidates with 4.0 averages in their majors. Why should I
talk to you?
Why in the world would I want to work for an ***** like you? Unions and
lawyers are around because of employers like you. I would never work
for someone like you unless I had full Union coverage to prevent
harassment. I have been harassed before by some employers and
employees, and why it is better for me (at least in the caretaking
field) to work only privately or for a union. But then again caretaking
is only a temp job to fill the income hole until I can relocate to a
larger city with jobs.
...unless of coarse you think that a 3.4x GPA is bad."
According to your message, your undergraduate GPA was just above a "B:"
3.4x in my major you idiot. Yes I will admit that I did get quite a few
C's and even one D in the General Ed courses. But then again a C is
average isn't it? Or has it been raised to a B?
"I have a BA in Ministry and a AS in Business
BA GPA=3.07..."
Not even close to impressive when I can talk to people with 3.9 and 4.0
GPAs from Bible schools, accredited or not, and I routinely interact
with that caliber of person in hard science, information technology,
and math areas. So what did you do that should impress me?
Oh well guess I cant fit in everywhere. But then again God would not
want me working for assholes like you.
Back to your reading abilities.
Nothing wrong with 'em.
The post was never about me, but about christians in
general here.
No, it really was about you. You headed the list, and not one of those
other "Christians" is making any bellyaching noises about being ignored
by maleboge. The only one doing that is you.
You pay all your attention to Jason and leave the rest
of us out.
At the moment, Gastrich is all we really seem to have time for. Unlike
you, we have lives outside of Usenet and even the maleboge group, and,
as explained, Gastrich is involved in what we consider fraud. Therion
asked you directly, and now I will: Are you involved in fraud, bilking
others, or deception? That's what gets our attention. Now, frankly, I
think you're an idiot, but I don't think you're a fraud. If it makes
you feel any better, you're a *genuine* idiot.
You are attacking Jason because he's the only
way you can argue your useless points to.
No, we are "attacking Jason" because we believe that he acts
dishonestly and does so hiding behind a "Christian 'ministry.'"
Prove it
You are silenced when dealing with the rest of
us.
Oh, that's not true, at all. I can go and count quite a few comments
posted in reply to you that never got answers. I can do the same with
pretty much everyone else on your list.
I am sorry but I have a job and a life and cant sit in these boards all
day long.
Davey claims that Jason is the only one posting the
truth...
No, Davey has never claimed that Gastrich is the *only* person posting
the truth.
...which angers me...
Read what he's actually written and understand it, and you won't have
that problem.
...because that leaves the rest of us out. But then
again if you are attacking Jason because of the money
schemes...
Comes the dawn.
...then that would be just cause. You are right I am not
involved in any such activities!
Then your response to me was a complete waste of time, wasn't it?
You *****
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the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
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| User: "Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Maleboge.org deceptions? |
23 Oct 2005 09:49:40 PM |
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Bible John wrote:
In article <1130084561.616371.258900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not an atheist.
Then what are you? A devil?
My personal religious and philosophical viewpoint is not subject to
your scrutiny.
Also if you had read the post in its full form
you would have known that I was posting my GPA
in the bible, theology and ministry areas which
was well beyond a B...
I also saw some that were in the "C" and "D" grade
category. I refer you to the post in question:
You saw wrong as usual.
Because *you* say so? Get over yourself. You're just a punk.
http://groups.google.com/group/free.christians/msg/14b33a25b56f4425?hl=en&
And note the following:
"Theology (Biblical and Historical)
3.7
2.7 [editorial note" This is a "C"]
B-
4.0 scale. "C."
3
1.7 [editorial note: This is a "D"]
C-
"D."
GPA=2.78 C+"
A C+ average. We're supposed to be impressed? We live in
an era in which a college degree doesn't mean much unless
you have a competitive GPA. So let's look further:
I said in the area of theology you idiot.
It doesn't matter, your moronic punk, what the area was. A C+ average
is not impressive--not at all.
There is a difference between Bible, theology and
ministry.
Irrelevant to my point.
Say what bible college did you attend?
Also irrelevant. I'm not claiming to run a ministry.
You did not learn much.
About what? We haven't talked about the Bible, at all, though, on
those occasions when it has come up between a so-called Christian and
I, it turned out that I knew more than the "Christian."
"Bible (doctrine)
2.7
3
3.7
4.3
3
4.3
3
GPA=3.43 B
Ministry (application)
3.3
3.7
3.7
4
4.3
4
3.3
3.7
3.7
4
3.7
1.7
GPA=3.59 B"
I got one C- in my final ministry course. But no D's.
I see a "D." 1.7 on a 4-point scale is a "D." If 3.07 is a "B," 1.7
is a "D."
I see a "C" and a "D" intermixed in all of that, and I'm
not sure how one gets a 4.3 in anything when the scale
stops at 4.0.
4.3=A+
3.3=B+
2.3=C+
1.3=D+
It's too late for spin. If that's Simpson's grading scale, post a link
that proves it. As far as I know, no college has a scale that includes
"A+." Though schools use 4-point (A, B, C, D) scales and 12 point
scales (A, B+, B, B-, and so on) scales, I've never seen the kind of
scale in which the best possible grade is a 4.3.
Regardless, if you bring this to me as a hiring manager
for a position that has a requirement for a degree (but
no specific degree, in other words, an accredited Bible
degree is qualifying), then you're out of the pool. I
can get candidates with 4.0 averages in their majors.
Why should I talk to you?
Why in the world would I want to work for an ***** like you?
Unresponsive and evasive. You have no idea whether I am an ***** or not
(by the way, was that a "Christian" response?), and regardless, you
didn't answer the point or the question. You avoided
it...deliberately.
Snip rant
...unless of coarse you think that a 3.4x GPA is
bad."
According to your message, your undergraduate GPA was just
above a "B:"
3.4x in my major you idiot.
You didn't write that. You wrote "unless of coarse [sic] you think
that a 3.4x GPA is bad." I do think it's bad, of course, especially
these days and especially coming from a Bible school (a non-technical
or non-scientific curriculum), but I was simply responding to you,
moron. I also referred to your "undergraduate GPA," which should give
you an idea that I was referring to the GPA you obtained as an
undergraduate.
Yes I will admit that I did get quite a few
C's and even one D in the General Ed courses. But
then again a C is average isn't it? Or has it
been raised to a B?
According to the grading scale, a "C" is "average." According to the
real world, it's "barely passing."
"I have a BA in Ministry and a AS in Business
BA GPA=3.07..."
Not even close to impressive when I can talk to people
with 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs from Bible schools, accredited or
not, and I routinely interact with that caliber of person
in hard science, information technology, and math areas.
So what did you do that should impress me?
Oh well guess I cant fit in everywhere.
I didn't ask you that.
But then again God would not want me working for assholes
like you.
God doesn't care who you work for. He doesn't care about *you*,
period.
You are silenced when dealing with the rest of
us.
Oh, that's not true, at all. I can go and count
quite a few comments posted in reply to you that
never got answers. I can do the same with
pretty much everyone else on your list.
I am sorry but I have a job and a life and cant sit in
these boards all day long.
One would not get that impression from your participation, but what I
find amusing is that you claim that you (and others) "silence" us and
when I simply state that that's wrong, you change your story.
Davey claims that Jason is the only one posting the
truth...
No, Davey has never claimed that Gastrich is the *only*
person posting the truth.
...which angers me...
Read what he's actually written and understand it, and
you won't have that problem.
Quoted. No reply.
...because that leaves the rest of us out. But then
again if you are attacking Jason because of the money
schemes...
Comes the dawn.
...then that would be just cause. You are right I am not
involved in any such activities!
Then your response to me was a complete waste of time,
wasn't it?
You *****
Sticks and stones. What a fine example of a Christian, you are!
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23 Oct 2005 10:07:46 PM |
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In article <1130122180.796734.322310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
You *****
Sticks and stones. What a fine example of a Christian, you are!
I apologize I got out of control.
But I will say that at my college a 4.3 is a A+ and I got only 1 D my
entire career.
You are right about the real world a B being average.
But then again there are MANY ministers in churches that do not even
have a bible college education!
John
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CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John 14:6 Jesus answered, ģI am the way and
the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
AIM-Crucifyself03
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24 Oct 2005 05:11:25 AM |
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"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
news:john.doggett-C5DB04.20074623102005@News-West.newsfeeds.com...
In article <1130122180.796734.322310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
You *****
Sticks and stones. What a fine example of a Christian, you are!
I apologize I got out of control.
But I will say that at my college a 4.3 is a A+ and I got only 1 D my
entire career.
You know. I'm really starting to think there's something wrong with you.
Ever take a look over the messages you've posted to newsgroups? You should.
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Resident Witchypoo
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Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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23 Oct 2005 10:19:54 PM |
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Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in news:john.doggett-
C5DB04.20074623102005@News-West.newsfeeds.com:
In article <1130122180.796734.322310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
You *****
Sticks and stones. What a fine example of a Christian, you are!
I apologize I got out of control.
But I will say that at my college a 4.3 is a A+ and I got only 1 D my
entire career.
You are right about the real world a B being average.
But then again there are MANY ministers in churches that do not even
have a bible college education!
Really? There may be hope yet.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Dave" |
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23 Oct 2005 10:14:48 PM |
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Bible John wrote:
In article <1130122180.796734.322310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
You *****
Sticks and stones. What a fine example of a Christian,
you are!
I apologize I got out of control.
Accepted. Now, learn to realize that not everyone is as impressed with
you as *you* are.
But I will say that at my college a 4.3 is a A+ and I
got only 1 D my entire career.
So post a link showing that Simpson uses that scale.
You are right about the real world a B being average.
Pretty much, yeah. Go back to school, study a lot harder, and get a
*useful* degree.
But then again there are MANY ministers in churches that
do not even have a bible college education!
Yes, most of those are small, independent, "Bible" churches that might
have some credo with which you disagree.
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| User: "Last of All" |
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23 Oct 2005 10:20:20 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:07:46 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
But then again there are MANY ministers in churches that do not even
have a bible college education!
NEVER trust a preacher with a Cemetary degree.
Terrell
http://www.lastofall.com
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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24 Oct 2005 06:42:20 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 03:20:20 GMT, Last of All <LastOfAll@nospam.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:07:46 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
But then again there are MANY ministers in churches that do not even
have a bible college education!
NEVER trust a preacher with a Cemetary degree.
Terrell
http://www.lastofall.com
Terrell,
Amen.
If you gotta have a preacher with a degree, let it be in Mathematics,
Enginerering, Medicine, Brick Laying, Woodworking, or some other trade
where work for money is required.
*******
BB
Conservatives love America for what she was, is, and can be.
Liberals love America for what she can do for them.
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| User: "Bible John" |
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24 Oct 2005 11:20:18 PM |
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In article <51ipl191ban1k2u49k3ul1flcckvgigv98@4ax.com>,
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
Terrell,
Amen.
If you gotta have a preacher with a degree, let it be in Mathematics,
Enginerering, Medicine, Brick Laying, Woodworking, or some other trade
where work for money is required.
No way. In this case their sermons would be mostly be practical and
have little theological depth.
--
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and
the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
AIM-Crucifyself03
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| User: "Last of All" |
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| Title: Re: apology to dave |
25 Oct 2005 01:15:49 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:20:18 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
In article <51ipl191ban1k2u49k3ul1flcckvgigv98@4ax.com>,
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
Terrell,
Amen.
If you gotta have a preacher with a degree, let it be in Mathematics,
Enginerering, Medicine, Brick Laying, Woodworking, or some other trade
where work for money is required.
No way. In this case their sermons would be mostly be practical and
have little theological depth.
Christ didn't call people to be theologians, he called them to be
believers.
Which is one problem you have and why (although only Jesus Christ can
say for sure) you are probably not "saved." You trust in your
doctrines and books which gives you a pseudo knowledge - you think you
know, but that's not the same as believing.
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
Conservatives love America for what she was and hate her for what she
is ... Liberals love America for what she is, but realize there's room
for improvement.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: apology to dave |
25 Oct 2005 12:12:16 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:20:18 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
In article <51ipl191ban1k2u49k3ul1flcckvgigv98@4ax.com>,
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
Terrell,
Amen.
If you gotta have a preacher with a degree, let it be in Mathematics,
Enginerering, Medicine, Brick Laying, Woodworking, or some other trade
where work for money is required.
No way. In this case their sermons would be mostly be practical and
have little theological depth.
That went right over the koo koo's nest didn't it.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: apology to dave |
25 Oct 2005 12:07:27 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:20:18 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
In article <51ipl191ban1k2u49k3ul1flcckvgigv98@4ax.com>,
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
Terrell,
Amen.
If you gotta have a preacher with a degree, let it be in Mathematics,
Enginerering, Medicine, Brick Laying, Woodworking, or some other trade
where work for money is required.
No way. In this case their sermons would be mostly be practical and
have little theological depth.
Yes, I agree.
It wouldn't do to have a sermon be in any way practical,
or make any sort of sense.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: apology to dave |
23 Oct 2005 10:10:12 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:07:46 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
In article <1130122180.796734.322310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote:
You *****
Sticks and stones. What a fine example of a Christian, you are!
I apologize I got out of control.
But I will say that at my college a 4.3 is a A+ and I got only 1 D my
entire career.
You are right about the real world a B being average.
But then again there are MANY ministers in churches that do not even
have a bible college education!
Why do you expect anybody in the real world outside your religion to
be impressed with a bible collehe education? Or even outside your
partiicular sect?
It's worthless.
John
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