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"Fred Stone" |
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27 Aug 2007 09:37:50 AM |
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Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as if it
were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad, he reserved
his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic colleague Senator
Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their senses"."
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Fred Stone
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"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. - George
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
27 Aug 2007 09:19:15 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99996C316AE26freddybear@216.151.153.21...
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as if it
were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad, he reserved
his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic colleague Senator
Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their senses"."
It fakes a village?
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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27 Aug 2007 10:23:40 AM |
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On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as if it
were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad, he reserved
his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic colleague Senator
Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad your
Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
27 Aug 2007 12:00:29 PM |
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as
if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad,
he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic
colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their
senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad your
Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. - George
Orwell
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 PM |
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On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as
if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad,
he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic
colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their
senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad your
Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
27 Aug 2007 01:14:37 PM |
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j016d31pk8km6kav8sgtjjgkvh1lanhmi3@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as
if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad,
he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic
colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their
senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad your
Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You say "sucking up" as if you know what went on there, but of course
you do not.
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
I think the thread you refer to was about Nancy Pelosi.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
You're so perceptive you don't seem to have noticed that al-Maliki is
the head of state of a sovereign nation.
Pelosi is not, and has no business trying to set up in competition with
the President on foreign policy.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
27 Aug 2007 06:05:32 PM |
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On 27 Aug 2007 18:14:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j016d31pk8km6kav8sgtjjgkvh1lanhmi3@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as
if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad,
he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic
colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their
senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad your
Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You say "sucking up" as if you know what went on there, but of course
you do not.
He also said he, "can find friends elsewhere." Sounds like he was
sucking up to someone.
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
I think the thread you refer to was about Nancy Pelosi.
My bad. I get the two mixed up for some reason.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
You're so perceptive you don't seem to have noticed that al-Maliki is
the head of state of a sovereign nation.
And he just put his number one ally on notice by saying he can find
friends elsewhere.
Pelosi is not, and has no business trying to set up in competition with
the President on foreign policy.
She doesn't have the right to visit Syria? But I see your point. Bush
kisses Maliki's ***** so you do too.
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
27 Aug 2007 08:32:39 PM |
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6bl6d3pkf1qsnhmovpu2bcujvqo8kusulq@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 18:14:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j016d31pk8km6kav8sgtjjgkvh1lanhmi3@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush
has had to say about such things?
You say "sucking up" as if you know what went on there, but of course
you do not.
He also said he, "can find friends elsewhere." Sounds like he was
sucking up to someone.
Sounds like he's telling the Democrats that their plans to betray Iraq
aren't exactly a secret.
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
I think the thread you refer to was about Nancy Pelosi.
My bad. I get the two mixed up for some reason.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
You're so perceptive you don't seem to have noticed that al-Maliki is
the head of state of a sovereign nation.
And he just put his number one ally on notice by saying he can find
friends elsewhere.
Since the Democrats have announced that they plan to betray Iraq, I
don't blame him one bit.
Pelosi is not, and has no business trying to set up in competition
with the President on foreign policy.
She doesn't have the right to visit Syria? But I see your point. Bush
kisses Maliki's ***** so you do too.
She doesn't have the right to offer an alternative to the President on
foreign policy. No matter how much you hate him, he is still the
President.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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| Title: Re: Maliki to Hillary: Iraq is not your village |
28 Aug 2007 04:59:02 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2007 01:32:39 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6bl6d3pkf1qsnhmovpu2bcujvqo8kusulq@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 18:14:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j016d31pk8km6kav8sgtjjgkvh1lanhmi3@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush
has had to say about such things?
You say "sucking up" as if you know what went on there, but of course
you do not.
He also said he, "can find friends elsewhere." Sounds like he was
sucking up to someone.
Sounds like he's telling the Democrats that their plans to betray Iraq
aren't exactly a secret.
So "Maliki" is now synonymous with "Iraq"?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
I think the thread you refer to was about Nancy Pelosi.
My bad. I get the two mixed up for some reason.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
You're so perceptive you don't seem to have noticed that al-Maliki is
the head of state of a sovereign nation.
And he just put his number one ally on notice by saying he can find
friends elsewhere.
Since the Democrats have announced that they plan to betray Iraq, I
don't blame him one bit.
Again "Maliki" is synonymous with "Iraq"?
Pelosi is not, and has no business trying to set up in competition
with the President on foreign policy.
She doesn't have the right to visit Syria? But I see your point. Bush
kisses Maliki's ***** so you do too.
She doesn't have the right to offer an alternative to the President on
foreign policy. No matter how much you hate him, he is still the
President.
Someone needs to start some foreign policy besides rattling sabers.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Aug 2007 05:16:54 PM |
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ud69d31pb9s2usdnurh70fcc0gbg1duntu@4ax.com:
On 28 Aug 2007 01:32:39 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6bl6d3pkf1qsnhmovpu2bcujvqo8kusulq@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 18:14:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j016d31pk8km6kav8sgtjjgkvh1lanhmi3@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush
has had to say about such things?
You say "sucking up" as if you know what went on there, but of
course you do not.
He also said he, "can find friends elsewhere." Sounds like he was
sucking up to someone.
Sounds like he's telling the Democrats that their plans to betray Iraq
aren't exactly a secret.
So "Maliki" is now synonymous with "Iraq"?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
I think the thread you refer to was about Nancy Pelosi.
My bad. I get the two mixed up for some reason.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
You're so perceptive you don't seem to have noticed that al-Maliki
is the head of state of a sovereign nation.
And he just put his number one ally on notice by saying he can find
friends elsewhere.
Since the Democrats have announced that they plan to betray Iraq, I
don't blame him one bit.
Again "Maliki" is synonymous with "Iraq"?
He's their head of state, BackAss.
Pelosi is not, and has no business trying to set up in competition
with the President on foreign policy.
She doesn't have the right to visit Syria? But I see your point.
Bush kisses Maliki's ***** so you do too.
She doesn't have the right to offer an alternative to the President on
foreign policy. No matter how much you hate him, he is still the
President.
Someone needs to start some foreign policy besides rattling sabers.
There's still a minor matter of constitutional powers of the Presidency,
and Nancy isn't the President. Third in line doesn't get to pretend on
alternate Thursdays.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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28 Aug 2007 07:05:40 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2007 22:16:54 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ud69d31pb9s2usdnurh70fcc0gbg1duntu@4ax.com:
On 28 Aug 2007 01:32:39 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6bl6d3pkf1qsnhmovpu2bcujvqo8kusulq@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 18:14:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j016d31pk8km6kav8sgtjjgkvh1lanhmi3@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 17:00:29 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush
has had to say about such things?
You say "sucking up" as if you know what went on there, but of
course you do not.
He also said he, "can find friends elsewhere." Sounds like he was
sucking up to someone.
Sounds like he's telling the Democrats that their plans to betray Iraq
aren't exactly a secret.
So "Maliki" is now synonymous with "Iraq"?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
I think the thread you refer to was about Nancy Pelosi.
My bad. I get the two mixed up for some reason.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
You're so perceptive you don't seem to have noticed that al-Maliki
is the head of state of a sovereign nation.
And he just put his number one ally on notice by saying he can find
friends elsewhere.
Since the Democrats have announced that they plan to betray Iraq, I
don't blame him one bit.
Again "Maliki" is synonymous with "Iraq"?
He's their head of state, BackAss.
The head of state isn't the state. Something you JeBush worshipers
have yet to figure out.
Pelosi is not, and has no business trying to set up in competition
with the President on foreign policy.
She doesn't have the right to visit Syria? But I see your point.
Bush kisses Maliki's ***** so you do too.
She doesn't have the right to offer an alternative to the President on
foreign policy. No matter how much you hate him, he is still the
President.
Someone needs to start some foreign policy besides rattling sabers.
There's still a minor matter of constitutional powers of the Presidency,
and Nancy isn't the President. Third in line doesn't get to pretend on
alternate Thursdays.
Since when has JeBush worried about the Constitution? Warrantless
wiretaps ring a bell?
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28 Aug 2007 09:07:23 PM |
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:mqd9d31i0dmvhqgmllfd948n8eamf44k6n@4ax.com:
On 28 Aug 2007 22:16:54 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
<...>
He's their head of state, BackAss.
The head of state isn't the state. Something you JeBush worshipers
have yet to figure out.
Oh, isn't he cute? He called the President "JeBush" and says
"worshipers" to a person on alt.atheism. That must be another insult.
There's still a minor matter of constitutional powers of the
Presidency, and Nancy isn't the President. Third in line doesn't get
to pretend on alternate Thursdays.
Since when has JeBush worried about the Constitution? Warrantless
wiretaps ring a bell?
Non sequituur.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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27 Aug 2007 08:13:28 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
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27 Aug 2007 09:42:55 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:okt6d3145ek0g1hg51jmd70sapbbuci8vk@4ax.com:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Because Al never had an original thought in his life he doesn't think
anybody else ever did either.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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28 Aug 2007 04:59:38 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:13:28 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Now I understand.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Aug 2007 05:17:14 PM |
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ll69d39ffb2j7t1q9mvgndijihltp7dt6a@4ax.com:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:13:28 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Now I understand.
You people will believe anything.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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28 Aug 2007 07:06:45 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2007 22:17:14 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ll69d39ffb2j7t1q9mvgndijihltp7dt6a@4ax.com:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:13:28 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Now I understand.
You people will believe anything.
What where you just saying about others not being able to detect
irony?
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
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On 28 Aug 2007 22:17:14 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
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Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:13:28 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush
has had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Now I understand.
You people will believe anything.
What where you just saying about others not being able to detect
irony?
Ah, this must be that famous liberal sense of humor that I keep hearing
about.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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29 Aug 2007 11:16:13 AM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:06:45 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Aug 2007 22:17:14 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ll69d39ffb2j7t1q9mvgndijihltp7dt6a@4ax.com:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:13:28 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Now I understand.
You people will believe anything.
What where you just saying about others not being able to detect
irony?
"You people will believe anything." is a macro on Phred's computer -
for use when he can't think of a response.
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29 Aug 2007 11:40:12 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:0t6bd3p58h6gnpv46rm9ivfibfv0oq9vq3@4ax.com:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:06:45 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Aug 2007 22:17:14 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ll69d39ffb2j7t1q9mvgndijihltp7dt6a@4ax.com:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:13:28 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:20:09 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you think his going to Syria was a good idea despite what Bush
has
had to say about such things?
You didn't seem to think it was a good idea when Clinton went to
Syria.
"What is she doing in Syria, you fucking traitor?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/932e9f130b0cdd95
I noticed you didn't make any such remarks about Maliki.
Because Bush hasn't told Phred which way to think yet.
Now I understand.
You people will believe anything.
What where you just saying about others not being able to detect
irony?
"You people will believe anything." is a macro on Phred's computer -
for use when he can't think of a response.
It's for use when I am amazed at the utter lack of critical thinking
shown by the members of the so-called "reality-based community".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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| User: "Larry" |
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27 Aug 2007 12:32:26 PM |
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On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as
if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad,
he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic
colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their
senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad your
Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he can do
the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will boot
Maliki too.
Larry
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27 Aug 2007 01:16:24 PM |
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Larry <lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote in
news:1188235946.462993.202090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he can do
the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will boot
Maliki too.
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American policy.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for the
reasoning behind policy decisions?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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28 Aug 2007 10:26:59 PM |
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On Aug 27, 1:16 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote innews:1188235946.462993.202090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he can do
the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will boot
Maliki too.
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American policy.
Narcissism, they name is Fred.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for the
reasoning behind policy decisions?
Apparently it was over your head that the reasoning did not matter.
The point was that Bush controlled whether or not Jaafari stayed
despite the farce of elections.
Larry
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29 Aug 2007 08:55:14 AM |
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Larry <lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote in
news:1188358019.806387.60320@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 1:16 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188235946.462993.202090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he can
do the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will boot
Maliki too.
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American
policy.
Narcissism, they name is Fred.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for the
reasoning behind policy decisions?
Apparently it was over your head that the reasoning did not matter.
Reasoning seldom matters to the left.
The point was that Bush controlled whether or not Jaafari stayed
despite the farce of elections.
The elections were a farce too? All those purple fingers were just
symbolism, huh?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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| User: "Larry" |
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29 Aug 2007 10:18:49 AM |
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On Aug 29, 8:55 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote innews:1188358019.806387.60320@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 1:16 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188235946.462993.202090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country
"as if it were one of their villages". At a press conference in
Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her
Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin, saying they needed to
"come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same Assad
your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he can
do the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will boot
Maliki too.
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American
policy.
Narcissism, they name is Fred.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for the
reasoning behind policy decisions?
Apparently it was over your head that the reasoning did not matter.
Reasoning seldom matters to the left.
The point was that Bush controlled whether or not Jaafari stayed
despite the farce of elections.
The elections were a farce too? All those purple fingers were just
symbolism, huh?
The elections gave the shiites supposed control of the government, and
they promptly picked
Ibrahim Jaafari as Prime Minister. Bush's ambassador said that was
unacceptable and
thus Maliki became Prime Minister. Obviously Bush holds more power
than those elected
in Iraq.
Larry
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29 Aug 2007 11:22:12 AM |
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Larry <lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote in
news:1188400729.501680.320150@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 29, 8:55 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188358019.806387.60320@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 1:16 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188235946.462993.202090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone
<fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the
country "as if it were one of their villages". At a press
conference in Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs
Clinton and her Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin,
saying they needed to "come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same
Assad your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he
can do the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will
boot Maliki too.
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American
policy.
Narcissism, they name is Fred.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for
the reasoning behind policy decisions?
Apparently it was over your head that the reasoning did not matter.
Reasoning seldom matters to the left.
The point was that Bush controlled whether or not Jaafari stayed
despite the farce of elections.
The elections were a farce too? All those purple fingers were just
symbolism, huh?
The elections gave the shiites supposed control of the government, and
they promptly picked Ibrahim Jaafari as Prime Minister. Bush's
ambassador said that was unacceptable and thus Maliki became Prime
Minister. Obviously Bush holds more power than those elected in Iraq.
Interesting bit of revisionist history there. The elections were for
members of parliament, not for Prime Minister, who is selected by those
memebers of parliament. The Shi'ites did not have enough votes to
install a Prime Minister without support from either the Kurds or the
Sunnis. Jaafari could not win support from either Kurdish nor Sunni
parties, so Maliki was proposed as a compromise. Khalilzad acted as a
negotiator, not as messenger for Bush to be dictator in the deal.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it. -
George Orwell
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12 Sep 2007 03:06:19 PM |
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On Aug 29, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote innews:1188400729.501680.320150@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 29, 8:55 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188358019.806387.60320@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 1:16 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188235946.462993.202090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 27, 12:00 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:nuq5d3hakcvhpp8edkot0npqnek5hi9l0c@4ax.com:
On 27 Aug 2007 14:37:50 GMT, Fred Stone
<fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the
country "as if it were one of their villages". At a press
conference in Baghdad, he reserved his harshest words for Mrs
Clinton and her Democratic colleague Senator Carl Levin,
saying they needed to "come to their senses"."
Wasn't he recently in Syria sucking up to Assad? The same
Assad your Great Leader says we shouldn't be talking to?
So what if he was?
Bush kicked out Ibrahim Jaafari because he didn't like him, he
can do the same to Nouri Maliki. The cons sure
got upset with Pelsoi when she went to Syria, maybe they will
boot Maliki too.
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American
policy.
Narcissism, they name is Fred.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for
the reasoning behind policy decisions?
Apparently it was over your head that the reasoning did not matter.
Reasoning seldom matters to the left.
The point was that Bush controlled whether or not Jaafari stayed
despite the farce of elections.
The elections were a farce too? All those purple fingers were just
symbolism, huh?
The elections gave the shiites supposed control of the government, and
they promptly picked Ibrahim Jaafari as Prime Minister. Bush's
ambassador said that was unacceptable and thus Maliki became Prime
Minister. Obviously Bush holds more power than those elected in Iraq.
Interesting bit of revisionist history there. The elections were for
members of parliament, not for Prime Minister, who is selected by those
memebers of parliament. The Shi'ites did not have enough votes to
install a Prime Minister without support from either the Kurds or the
Sunnis. Jaafari could not win support from either Kurdish nor Sunni
parties
It is true that Jaafari "could not win support from either Kurdish nor
Sunni
parties", however the shites must have "had enough votes" or some
other
way to make him Prime Minister or the Kurds and Sunni would not have
had to threaten boycott the government if his nomination was not
withdrawn
See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4855210.stm
, so Maliki was proposed as a compromise. Khalilzad acted as a
negotiator, not as messenger for Bush to be dictator in the deal.
Does this sound like negotiations, "George Bush sent a message via
Khalilzad to Abd al-Aziz al-Hakim, as head of the Alliance, telling
him that George Bush doesn't want, doesn't support, doesn't accept
Ibrahim Jaafari as prime minister,"
Larry
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12 Sep 2007 05:11:46 PM |
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Larry <lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote in
news:1189627579.509881.81890@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 29, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188400729.501680.320150@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
<...>
Interesting bit of revisionist history there. The elections were for
members of parliament, not for Prime Minister, who is selected by
those memebers of parliament. The Shi'ites did not have enough votes
to install a Prime Minister without support from either the Kurds or
the Sunnis. Jaafari could not win support from either Kurdish nor
Sunni parties
It is true that Jaafari "could not win support from either Kurdish nor
Sunni parties", however the shites must have "had enough votes" or
some other way to make him Prime Minister or the Kurds and Sunni would
not have had to threaten boycott the government if his nomination was
not withdrawn See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4855210.stm
, so Maliki was proposed as a compromise. Khalilzad acted as a
negotiator, not as messenger for Bush to be dictator in the deal.
Does this sound like negotiations, "George Bush sent a message via
Khalilzad to Abd al-Aziz al-Hakim, as head of the Alliance, telling
him that George Bush doesn't want, doesn't support, doesn't accept
Ibrahim Jaafari as prime minister,"
That sounds like BBC spin.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate without exception
the ideological and political state of a persons mind.
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13 Sep 2007 09:17:18 PM |
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On Sep 12, 5:11 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote innews:1189627579.509881.81890@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
On Aug 29, 11:22 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Larry <ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote
innews:1188400729.501680.320150@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
<...>
Interesting bit of revisionist history there. The elections were for
members of parliament, not for Prime Minister, who is selected by
those memebers of parliament. The Shi'ites did not have enough votes
to install a Prime Minister without support from either the Kurds or
the Sunnis. Jaafari could not win support from either Kurdish nor
Sunni parties
It is true that Jaafari "could not win support from either Kurdish nor
Sunni parties", however the shites must have "had enough votes" or
some other way to make him Prime Minister or the Kurds and Sunni would
not have had to threaten boycott the government if his nomination was
not withdrawn See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4855210.stm
, so Maliki was proposed as a compromise. Khalilzad acted as a
negotiator, not as messenger for Bush to be dictator in the deal.
Does this sound like negotiations, "George Bush sent a message via
Khalilzad to Abd al-Aziz al-Hakim, as head of the Alliance, telling
him that George Bush doesn't want, doesn't support, doesn't accept
Ibrahim Jaafari as prime minister,"
That sounds like BBC spin.
They are more credible than your say so.
Larry
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27 Aug 2007 01:59:26 PM |
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On Aug 27, 2:16 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Ah, I just love these simple-minded interpretations of American policy.
"Bush didn't like him..." Is that all you people can imagine for the
reasoning behind policy decisions?
When Bush is involved? Absolutely.
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27 Aug 2007 02:14:27 PM |
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On Aug 27, 7:37 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mr Maliki ridiculed US politicians who talked about the country "as if it
were one of their villages". At a press conference in Baghdad, he reserved
his harshest words for Mrs Clinton and her Democratic colleague Senator
Carl Levin, saying they needed to "come to their senses"."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it." - George
Orwell
With 160,000 American troops in his country trying to help stablize
it, I would think EVERY American has the right to ***** about his poor
performance.
mogons
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