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14 Jan 2006 10:23:59 AM |
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Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics, not only is
this condoned under Islamic law but this guy will be going to their
version of heaven despite his heinous crime and his place there is
probably guaranteed because of it. Needless to say this is a just a
tiny sampling of what goes on in Muslim countries.
It follows that Muslim heaven would be everyone elses hell - it's full
of Muslims.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html
Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing'
December 25, 2005
A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after the
eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
"The man came to a police station ... after killing his four
daughters," said senior police officer Mukhtar Iqbal Tikka.
Nazeer Ahmed, who worked as a labourer near Burewala, some 110
kilometres east of Multan, had resented his eldest daughter's love
marriage and killed the three others, fearing they might follow her,
Tikka said.
Ahmed allegedly told police his eldest daughter Muqadas Bibi, 25, had
married a man of her choice against his wishes and her act had
tarnished the family's honour so he plotted to kill her and his other
daughters.
While she was asleep with her sisters Bano Bibi, 12, Sumera Bibi,
eight, and Humera, six, he allegedly cut their throats with a sharp
knife, Tikka said.
About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in conservative
rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting
family honour.
Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of tribal
justice.
President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
introducing the death penalty for honour killings.
- AFP
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
15 Jan 2006 03:58:03 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:34:21 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaus.com.au> wrote in message
}news:456js19pmimms773n7dphfcd969k8ujfdr@4ax.com...
}> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:21:15 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }
}> }"Stan Pierce" <ecreipt@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
}> }news:ODfyf.216200$V7.72536@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
}> }>
}> }> "Bruce Johnson" <"b.johnson"@speed .com> wrote in message
}> }> news:JNcyf.1339$La2.78096@news20.bellglobal.com...
}> }> (snipped)
}> }>>> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> }>>> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after the
}> }>>> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}> }>>>
}> }>
}> }> I see it as a way of ridding the world of more useless people.
}> Encourage
}> }> more Muslims to to do it.
}> }
}> }Including three girls under fourteen, and as young as six?
}> }You are one very sick puppy Stan.
}> }
}>
}> Who's sicker him for wanting the adherents of that religion to get on
}> with wiping themselves out or you who defends that sick religion and
}> makes excuses for it?
}
}I don't defend any religion stupid.
}But I will defend the life of a six year old girl and you'd better believe
}it.
}
Chyeah right, not if it means getting out of bed before noon.
But since you've raised it, when can we expect you to start your
worldwide activism to stop untold numbers of honour killings,
stonings, rape, murder, enslavement, forced marriage, sexual abuse and
genital mutilation perpetrated on women under Islam? Now's you
opportunity, this is a call to arms, Brother, a chance to really do
something - or perhaps not... Will and Grace are on TV...
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| User: "Freewill" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
15 Jan 2006 04:32:34 AM |
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"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:34:21 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaus.com.au> wrote in message
}news:456js19pmimms773n7dphfcd969k8ujfdr@4ax.com...
}> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:21:15 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }
}> }"Stan Pierce" <ecreipt@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
}> }news:ODfyf.216200$V7.72536@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
}> }>
}> }> "Bruce Johnson" <"b.johnson"@speed .com> wrote in message
}> }> news:JNcyf.1339$La2.78096@news20.bellglobal.com...
}> }> (snipped)
}> }>>> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> }>>> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after
the
}> }>>> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}> }>>>
}> }>
}> }> I see it as a way of ridding the world of more useless people.
}> Encourage
}> }> more Muslims to to do it.
}> }
}> }Including three girls under fourteen, and as young as six?
}> }You are one very sick puppy Stan.
}> }
}>
}> Who's sicker him for wanting the adherents of that religion to get on
}> with wiping themselves out or you who defends that sick religion and
}> makes excuses for it?
}
}I don't defend any religion stupid.
}But I will defend the life of a six year old girl and you'd better
believe
}it.
}
Chyeah right, not if it means getting out of bed before noon.
But since you've raised it, when can we expect you to start your
worldwide activism to stop untold numbers of honour killings,
stonings, rape, murder, enslavement, forced marriage, sexual abuse and
genital mutilation perpetrated on women under Islam? Now's you
opportunity, this is a call to arms, Brother, a chance to really do
something - or perhaps not... Will and Grace are on TV...
(dude, you are ON THE BALL!)
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Jan 2006 02:25:16 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:02:46 -0500, Bruce Johnson <"b.johnson"@speed
..com> wrote in alt.atheism
It is very hard to believe that the world contains such people.
That's Christians for you.
Who teaches these people this nonsense.
Christian Clergy®
God must cry when he sees such evil.
Crocodile tears since, according to your superstition, it created evil.
Sucks for you.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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14 Jan 2006 08:26:46 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:02:46 -0500, Bruce Johnson <"b.johnson"@speed
..com> wrote:
Yes, Bruce very sad indeed. Worse still are the apologists for this
sort of thing for they facilitate its continuation.
}It is very hard to believe that the world contains such people.
}Who teaches these people this nonsense.
}God must cry when he sees such evil.
}
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}
}> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics, not only is
}> this condoned under Islamic law but this guy will be going to their
}> version of heaven despite his heinous crime and his place there is
}> probably guaranteed because of it. Needless to say this is a just a
}> tiny sampling of what goes on in Muslim countries.
}>
}> It follows that Muslim heaven would be everyone elses hell - it's full
}> of Muslims.
}>
}> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html
}>
}> Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing'
}>
}> December 25, 2005
}>
}> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after the
}> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}>
}> "The man came to a police station ... after killing his four
}> daughters," said senior police officer Mukhtar Iqbal Tikka.
}>
}> Nazeer Ahmed, who worked as a labourer near Burewala, some 110
}> kilometres east of Multan, had resented his eldest daughter's love
}> marriage and killed the three others, fearing they might follow her,
}> Tikka said.
}>
}> Ahmed allegedly told police his eldest daughter Muqadas Bibi, 25, had
}> married a man of her choice against his wishes and her act had
}> tarnished the family's honour so he plotted to kill her and his other
}> daughters.
}>
}> While she was asleep with her sisters Bano Bibi, 12, Sumera Bibi,
}> eight, and Humera, six, he allegedly cut their throats with a sharp
}> knife, Tikka said.
}>
}> About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in conservative
}> rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting
}> family honour.
}>
}> Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of tribal
}> justice.
}>
}> President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}> introducing the death penalty for honour killings.
}>
}> - AFP
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14 Jan 2006 09:45:58 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
Before you did it," Dietz asked Andrea Yates during one videotaped
session, "did you think it was wrong?" "No." Dietz asked, "Why did you
not think it wrong?" Andrea answered without hesitation. "If I didn't
do it, they would be tormented by Satan. "It was a bad choice," she
continued. "I shouldn't have done it." She began to sound regretful as
the camera recorded the interview. "There was distress, but I still
felt I had to do it." Dietz zeroed in. "As you drowned each one, did
you think it was the right thing to be doing?" Andrea nodded yes. Dietz
asked, upon drowning the kids, if she thought about heaven. "I was
praying they would go there."
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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14 Jan 2006 11:05:01 PM |
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On 14 Jan 2006 19:45:58 -0800, "lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu"
<lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics.
}
}http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
}Before you did it," Dietz asked Andrea Yates during one videotaped
}session, "did you think it was wrong?" "No." Dietz asked, "Why did you
}not think it wrong?" Andrea answered without hesitation. "If I didn't
}do it, they would be tormented by Satan. "It was a bad choice," she
}continued. "I shouldn't have done it." She began to sound regretful as
}the camera recorded the interview. "There was distress, but I still
}felt I had to do it." Dietz zeroed in. "As you drowned each one, did
}you think it was the right thing to be doing?" Andrea nodded yes. Dietz
}asked, upon drowning the kids, if she thought about heaven. "I was
}praying they would go there."
So you're comparing the actions of a mentally ill individual who
happens to be Christian with Honour Killings as taught and condoned in
Islamic culture. Maybe you can try again with something actually
relevant.
Here's some articles to enlightten you (of course they don't bash
Christians which you may find upsetting):
http://www.secularislam.org/women/dont.htm
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-3-2005_pg7_46
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm
http://www.secularislam.org/women/honor.htm
http://www.secularislam.org/women/tribalism.htm
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MiQrnncq-_0J:news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051207/lf_nm/crime_britain_honour_dc+muslim+honour+killing+rise+west&hl=en&client=opera
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1922641,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/13/nzarin13.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/13/ixhome.html
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| User: "Hunter1" |
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15 Jan 2006 04:30:56 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
So you're comparing the actions of a mentally ill individual who
happens to be Christian with Honour Killings as taught and condoned in
Islamic culture.
Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that
is not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time
with a taint of honesty perhaps.
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| User: "Freewill" |
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15 Jan 2006 04:48:42 AM |
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"Hunter1" <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in message
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Michael Wallace wrote:
So you're comparing the actions of a mentally ill individual who
happens to be Christian with Honour Killings as taught and condoned in
Islamic culture.
Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that is
not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time with a
taint of honesty perhaps.
Read.
R E A D
Try to stop fixating, take a breath, and read......
"...Islamic culture..."
Honor killings are going on within it and the administrators of Sharia look
the other way.
In Iran, girls are hanged for defending themselves against gang rape.
That's not in the Quran either.
Muslims are the ones doing the vast majority of honor killings and
sistercide.
They are bringing the practice with them to the Western countries that they
are moving to.
Not Buddhists.
Not Jews.
Not Atheists or Agnostics.
Muslims.
Why do you try so very hard to avoid what is a simple admission of an
obvious reality?
Why?
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| User: "Hunter1" |
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15 Jan 2006 05:33:12 AM |
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Freewill wrote:
"Hunter1" <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in message
news:newscache$kjq4ti$4ek$1@phantom.amnet.net.au...
Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that is
not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time with a
taint of honesty perhaps.
Read.
R E A D
Try to stop fixating, take a breath, and read......
"...Islamic culture..."
Now Think...
T H I N K
Try to stop menstruating, wipe up the mess, and think.....
"culture".... The part he got wrong is "Islamic". It only happens in the
Middle East, stretching down into the upper part of Africa, and across
to about as far as India (which is Hindu by the way). Christians in
those areas do it too, the Hindus do it a hell of a lot as do the Sikhs.
Yet the majority of Muslims in the world that don't happen to live in
those areas don't do it. Now T H I N K... Culture.... Cult-ure...
Mid---dle Easssttt.... Getting the picture?
Honor killings are going on within it and the administrators of Sharia look
the other way.
No more than they do when Christians do it, no more than the Hindu
government in India does.
In Iran, girls are hanged for defending themselves against gang rape.
That's not in the Quran either.
But it is in the Middle East, and it was a practice that started well
before Islam existed. Earliest reports of it were actually from Rome.
Muslims are the ones doing the vast majority of honor killings and
sistercide.
No the Middle-Eastern region is, regardless of religion, the vast
majority of Muslims don't live there and don't play that game.
They are bringing the practice with them to the Western countries that they
are moving to.
Yep those people from that region are, I'm not too fond of refugee
intake, that's how we get shitbags instead of educated people that have
long since left that sort of ***** behind.
Not Buddhists.
Aren't any in that area as far as I know.
Not Jews.
Interesting one that one, they seem to be the one exception in the
region, even if the Wikipedia does credit them with it historically :
"Similar practices have been known since ancient Roman times, when the
pater familias, or senior male within a household, retained the right to
kill an unmarried but sexually active daughter or an adulterous wife.
Europe has been familiar with the practice since ancient empires under
Christian and Jewish law in which crimes such as adultery, were punished
often with stoning."
I'm guessing the difference in Israel as opposed to India through to
central Africa is that they've only been there a few decades, their
culture had already changed in their centuries of absence and having to
fit into other cultures, whilst the constant occupancy of India straight
through to central Africa has caused them to retain such rubbish.
Not Atheists or Agnostics.
Muslims.
And Christians... And Hindus... And Sikhs.....
Why do you try so very hard to avoid what is a simple admission of an
obvious reality?
I don't, it is an obvious reality (despite the faulty aim at the
culprit), I just hate lynch mobs trying to point all accusations for
everything at their pet targets, when it is so fucking obvious that they
couldn't hit a dart board from point blank with their aim.
Why?
That'd be that basic sentience 101. You should try it.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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15 Jan 2006 05:24:37 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:48:42 -0500, "Freewill" <freewill@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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}"Hunter1" <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in message
}news:newscache$kjq4ti$4ek$1@phantom.amnet.net.au...
}> Michael Wallace wrote:
}>>
}>> So you're comparing the actions of a mentally ill individual who
}>> happens to be Christian with Honour Killings as taught and condoned in
}>> Islamic culture.
}>
}>
}> Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
}> it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that is
}> not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time with a
}> taint of honesty perhaps.
}>
}>
}
}Read.
}
}R E A D
}
}Try to stop fixating, take a breath, and read......
}
}"...Islamic culture..."
}
}Honor killings are going on within it and the administrators of Sharia look
}the other way.
}
}In Iran, girls are hanged for defending themselves against gang rape.
}
}That's not in the Quran either.
}
}Muslims are the ones doing the vast majority of honor killings and
}sistercide.
}
}They are bringing the practice with them to the Western countries that they
}are moving to.
}
}Not Buddhists.
}
}Not Jews.
}
}Not Atheists or Agnostics.
}
}Muslims.
}
}Why do you try so very hard to avoid what is a simple admission of an
}obvious reality?
}
}Why?
}
He works with a couple of Muslims, probably doesn't want to ***** them
off - they may turn up at work with a bomb around their waist. Allah
Fuckbar and all that...
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15 Jan 2006 05:43:49 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
Fuckbar
Yawnnnn.... We don't want to know what you gave your mother for Xmas....
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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16 Jan 2006 04:27:21 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:30:56 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}>
}> So you're comparing the actions of a mentally ill individual who
}> happens to be Christian with Honour Killings as taught and condoned in
}> Islamic culture.
}
}
}Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
}it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that
}is not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time
}with a taint of honesty perhaps.
}
Yes, we know how just and fair Sharia law is don't we and how women
under Islam have a real choice. Nice try.
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| User: "Hunter1" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:10:10 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:30:56 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
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}Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
}it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that
}is not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time
}with a taint of honesty perhaps.
Yes, we know how just and fair Sharia law is don't we and how women
under Islam have a real choice. Nice try.
Yawnnnnnn... Oh ye of short attention span and limited intelligence, you
might want to try reading what I said properly next time, especially the
bit where I said "not a law any woman would want to live under", sorry
for typing too quick and using words too big for your poor excuse for a
brain.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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19 Jan 2006 06:02:35 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:10:10 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:30:56 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
}> wrote:
}> }
}> }Yawnnnn.... Liar... Not only is it not mentioned in the Koran or Hadiths
}> }it is specifically a crime even in their strictest sharia law, and that
}> }is not a law any woman would want to live under. Try again, this time
}> }with a taint of honesty perhaps.
}>
}> Yes, we know how just and fair Sharia law is don't we and how women
}> under Islam have a real choice. Nice try.
}
}
}Yawnnnnnn... Oh ye of short attention span and limited intelligence, you
}might want to try reading what I said properly next time, especially the
}bit where I said "not a law any woman would want to live under", sorry
}for typing too quick and using words too big for your poor excuse for a
}brain.
Says the moonbat master of incomprehension. How far up your arse does
Peter Terry have his hand?
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19 Jan 2006 03:58:03 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:10:10 GMT, Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au>
wrote:
}Yawnnnnnn... Oh ye of short attention span and limited intelligence, you
}might want to try reading what I said properly next time, especially the
}bit where I said "not a law any woman would want to live under", sorry
}for typing too quick and using words too big for your poor excuse for a
}brain.
Says the moonbat master of incomprehension. How far up your arse does
Peter Terry have his hand?
Yet another nice evasion of your illiterate stupidity that you've yet
again been caught out on. And now it all makes sense, you're another one
of poita terry's sock-puppets are you??? No fucking wonder you're such a
pathetic excuse for a human being, you're hanging off the end of the
***** of the biggest loser usenet has ever known.
Out of curiosity, since you claim to be such a stand-up guy, why do you
refuse to discuss your "career" at "Parts Direct Australia Pty Ltd 69
Star Crs Hallam Melb (03) 9702 3225", after all you run your own
business don't you??? You're a wealthy man aren't you??? You're not at
risk of being sacked for all the crap you're attaching to their name by
using them as the posting organisation for all your bigotry are you???
Or are you just the lying ***** we all know you to be?
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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14 Jan 2006 07:34:07 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:31:39 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:oj8is1lio53ogpt42esllt98jepu9eo1e2@4ax.com...
}>
}> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics, not only is
}> this condoned under Islamic law but this guy will be going to their
}> version of heaven despite his heinous crime and his place there is
}> probably guaranteed because of it. Needless to say this is a just a
}> tiny sampling of what goes on in Muslim countries.
}>
}> It follows that Muslim heaven would be everyone elses hell - it's full
}> of Muslims.
}>
}> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html
}>
}> Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing'
}>
}> December 25, 2005
}>
}> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after the
}> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}>
}> "The man came to a police station ... after killing his four
}> daughters," said senior police officer Mukhtar Iqbal Tikka.
}>
}> Nazeer Ahmed, who worked as a labourer near Burewala, some 110
}> kilometres east of Multan, had resented his eldest daughter's love
}> marriage and killed the three others, fearing they might follow her,
}> Tikka said.
}>
}> Ahmed allegedly told police his eldest daughter Muqadas Bibi, 25, had
}> married a man of her choice against his wishes and her act had
}> tarnished the family's honour so he plotted to kill her and his other
}> daughters.
}>
}> While she was asleep with her sisters Bano Bibi, 12, Sumera Bibi,
}> eight, and Humera, six, he allegedly cut their throats with a sharp
}> knife, Tikka said.
}>
}> About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in conservative
}> rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting
}> family honour.
}>
}> Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of tribal
}> justice.
}>
}> President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}> introducing the death penalty for honour killings.
}>
}> - AFP
}
}Once more you display your total lack of comprehension and grip on reality.
No, I comprehend alright but my reality is not your politically
correct version.
}It's becoming tiresome.
}This case has little to do with Islam and all to do with uneducated,
}backward peasants caught in centuries old rituals and customs.
Right which is why it is predominantly something which occurs in
Islamic culture and communities. Read the articles you twit. It's
actually on the rise in Muslim communities in Western countries. Could
it be all those backward peasants we're importing?
}Similar things happen in many non Islamic cultures and these occurences are
}predominantly social rather than religious.
No doubt, but again you show your ignorance in thinking Islam is only
a religion rather than a social and political system.
}Stop trying to bend facts to suit your own particular prejudice.
}
I think if anyone is guilty of that it's you, but then I doubt you
could ever recognise or admit that.
Anyway here's a few random articles for you enjoyment - try to read
them with the blinders off:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-3-2005_pg7_46
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm
http://www.secularislam.org/women/honor.htm
http://www.secularislam.org/women/tribalism.htm
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MiQrnncq-_0J:news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051207/lf_nm/crime_britain_honour_dc+muslim+honour+killing+rise+west&hl=en&client=opera
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1922641,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/13/nzarin13.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/13/ixhome.html
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 11:09:01 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:29:08 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:404js159sersv5lkrpsbmh5il715124lkp@4ax.com...
}> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:31:39 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }
}> }"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}> }news:oj8is1lio53ogpt42esllt98jepu9eo1e2@4ax.com...
}> }>
}> }> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics, not only is
}> }> this condoned under Islamic law but this guy will be going to their
}> }> version of heaven despite his heinous crime and his place there is
}> }> probably guaranteed because of it. Needless to say this is a just a
}> }> tiny sampling of what goes on in Muslim countries.
}> }>
}> }> It follows that Muslim heaven would be everyone elses hell - it's full
}> }> of Muslims.
}> }>
}> }> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html
}> }>
}> }> Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing'
}> }>
}> }> December 25, 2005
}> }>
}> }> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> }> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after the
}> }> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}> }>
}> }> "The man came to a police station ... after killing his four
}> }> daughters," said senior police officer Mukhtar Iqbal Tikka.
}> }>
}> }> Nazeer Ahmed, who worked as a labourer near Burewala, some 110
}> }> kilometres east of Multan, had resented his eldest daughter's love
}> }> marriage and killed the three others, fearing they might follow her,
}> }> Tikka said.
}> }>
}> }> Ahmed allegedly told police his eldest daughter Muqadas Bibi, 25, had
}> }> married a man of her choice against his wishes and her act had
}> }> tarnished the family's honour so he plotted to kill her and his other
}> }> daughters.
}> }>
}> }> While she was asleep with her sisters Bano Bibi, 12, Sumera Bibi,
}> }> eight, and Humera, six, he allegedly cut their throats with a sharp
}> }> knife, Tikka said.
}> }>
}> }> About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in conservative
}> }> rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting
}> }> family honour.
}> }>
}> }> Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of tribal
}> }> justice.
}> }>
}> }> President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}> }> introducing the death penalty for honour killings.
}> }>
}> }> - AFP
}> }
}> }Once more you display your total lack of comprehension and grip on
}> reality.
}>
}> No, I comprehend alright but my reality is not your politically
}> correct version.
}>
}> }It's becoming tiresome.
}> }This case has little to do with Islam and all to do with uneducated,
}> }backward peasants caught in centuries old rituals and customs.
}>
}> Right which is why it is predominantly something which occurs in
}> Islamic culture and communities. Read the articles you twit. It's
}> actually on the rise in Muslim communities in Western countries. Could
}> it be all those backward peasants we're importing?
}>
}> }Similar things happen in many non Islamic cultures and these occurences
}> are
}> }predominantly social rather than religious.
}>
}> No doubt, but again you show your ignorance in thinking Islam is only
}> a religion rather than a social and political system.
}>
}> }Stop trying to bend facts to suit your own particular prejudice.
}> }
}>
}> I think if anyone is guilty of that it's you, but then I doubt you
}> could ever recognise or admit that.
}>
}> Anyway here's a few random articles for you enjoyment - try to read
}> them with the blinders off:
}>
}> http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-3-2005_pg7_46
}>
}> http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm
}>
}> http://www.secularislam.org/women/honor.htm
}>
}> http://www.secularislam.org/women/tribalism.htm
}>
}> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MiQrnncq-_0J:news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051207/lf_nm/crime_britain_honour_dc+muslim+honour+killing+rise+west&hl=en&client=opera
}>
}> http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.html
}>
}> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1922641,00.html
}>
}> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/13/nzarin13.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/13/ixhome.html
}>
}
}I'm not interested in your muslim obsession, and also not interested in
}reading any of the articles you've spent hours trawling the web for.
Of course you're not, they challenge all your comfy beliefs and
besides it may actually take some effort to read and comprehend them.
BTW I spent all of 5 minutes on Google so Google must be anti-Islamic
and bigoted too...
}Do you ever think of anything else by the way?
Do you ever think?
}If your interested in objectivity, which I doubt you're even capable of,
}then read this:
}
}http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/30/1135732723968.html?from=top5
}
}Now tell me what the difference is.
}
One is religiously/culturally taught and sanctioned the other is not,
you fucking idiot. Let's see if you can work out which is which.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
15 Jan 2006 12:20:18 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:51:14 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:n0mjs1leam072m39ncfsaguoal6sc6q8rc@4ax.com...
}> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:29:08 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }
}> }"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}> }news:404js159sersv5lkrpsbmh5il715124lkp@4ax.com...
}> }> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:31:39 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> }> wrote:
}> }>
}> }> }
}> }> }"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}> }> }news:oj8is1lio53ogpt42esllt98jepu9eo1e2@4ax.com...
}> }> }>
}> }> }> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics, not only
}> is
}> }> }> this condoned under Islamic law but this guy will be going to their
}> }> }> version of heaven despite his heinous crime and his place there is
}> }> }> probably guaranteed because of it. Needless to say this is a just a
}> }> }> tiny sampling of what goes on in Muslim countries.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> It follows that Muslim heaven would be everyone elses hell - it's
}> full
}> }> }> of Muslims.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html
}> }> }>
}> }> }> Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing'
}> }> }>
}> }> }> December 25, 2005
}> }> }>
}> }> }> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> }> }> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after
}> the
}> }> }> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> "The man came to a police station ... after killing his four
}> }> }> daughters," said senior police officer Mukhtar Iqbal Tikka.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> Nazeer Ahmed, who worked as a labourer near Burewala, some 110
}> }> }> kilometres east of Multan, had resented his eldest daughter's love
}> }> }> marriage and killed the three others, fearing they might follow her,
}> }> }> Tikka said.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> Ahmed allegedly told police his eldest daughter Muqadas Bibi, 25,
}> had
}> }> }> married a man of her choice against his wishes and her act had
}> }> }> tarnished the family's honour so he plotted to kill her and his
}> other
}> }> }> daughters.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> While she was asleep with her sisters Bano Bibi, 12, Sumera Bibi,
}> }> }> eight, and Humera, six, he allegedly cut their throats with a sharp
}> }> }> knife, Tikka said.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in conservative
}> }> }> rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting
}> }> }> family honour.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of tribal
}> }> }> justice.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}> }> }> introducing the death penalty for honour killings.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> - AFP
}> }> }
}> }> }Once more you display your total lack of comprehension and grip on
}> }> reality.
}> }>
}> }> No, I comprehend alright but my reality is not your politically
}> }> correct version.
}> }>
}> }> }It's becoming tiresome.
}> }> }This case has little to do with Islam and all to do with uneducated,
}> }> }backward peasants caught in centuries old rituals and customs.
}> }>
}> }> Right which is why it is predominantly something which occurs in
}> }> Islamic culture and communities. Read the articles you twit. It's
}> }> actually on the rise in Muslim communities in Western countries. Could
}> }> it be all those backward peasants we're importing?
}> }>
}> }> }Similar things happen in many non Islamic cultures and these
}> occurences
}> }> are
}> }> }predominantly social rather than religious.
}> }>
}> }> No doubt, but again you show your ignorance in thinking Islam is only
}> }> a religion rather than a social and political system.
}> }>
}> }> }Stop trying to bend facts to suit your own particular prejudice.
}> }> }
}> }>
}> }> I think if anyone is guilty of that it's you, but then I doubt you
}> }> could ever recognise or admit that.
}> }>
}> }> Anyway here's a few random articles for you enjoyment - try to read
}> }> them with the blinders off:
}> }>
}> }> http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-3-2005_pg7_46
}> }>
}> }> http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm
}> }>
}> }> http://www.secularislam.org/women/honor.htm
}> }>
}> }> http://www.secularislam.org/women/tribalism.htm
}> }>
}> }>
}> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MiQrnncq-_0J:news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051207/lf_nm/crime_britain_honour_dc+muslim+honour+killing+rise+west&hl=en&client=opera
}> }>
}> }> http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.html
}> }>
}> }> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1922641,00.html
}> }>
}> }>
}> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/13/nzarin13.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/13/ixhome.html
}> }>
}> }
}> }I'm not interested in your muslim obsession, and also not interested in
}> }reading any of the articles you've spent hours trawling the web for.
}>
}> Of course you're not, they challenge all your comfy beliefs and
}> besides it may actually take some effort to read and comprehend them.
}> BTW I spent all of 5 minutes on Google so Google must be anti-Islamic
}> and bigoted too...
}>
}> }Do you ever think of anything else by the way?
}>
}> Do you ever think?
}>
}> }If your interested in objectivity, which I doubt you're even capable of,
}> }then read this:
}> }
}> }http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/30/1135732723968.html?from=top5
}> }
}> }Now tell me what the difference is.
}> }
}>
}> One is religiously/culturally taught and sanctioned the other is not,
}> you fucking idiot. Let's see if you can work out which is which.
}
}"President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}introducing the death penalty for honour killings."
}Now tell me which one is sanctioned cretin.
}
Did I say "legally" fuckwit? I said religiously/culturally - learn the
fucking difference.
But to go further, Musharraf doesn't not hold himself up to be a
religious leader, furthermore he is under international pressure to
make certain changes to the barbaric laws of Pakistan. Comprende?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/22/wdebt22.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/22/ixworld.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4311055.stm
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engASA330181999
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
16 Jan 2006 04:00:41 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:55:39 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
wrote:
}
}"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}news:nrpjs1t935htmqo0todmoak236telpce8a@4ax.com...
}> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:51:14 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }
}> }"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}> }news:n0mjs1leam072m39ncfsaguoal6sc6q8rc@4ax.com...
}> }> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:29:08 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> }> wrote:
}> }>
}> }> }
}> }> }"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}> }> }news:404js159sersv5lkrpsbmh5il715124lkp@4ax.com...
}> }> }> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:31:39 +1100, "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru>
}> }> }> wrote:
}> }> }>
}> }> }> }
}> }> }> }"Michael Wallace" <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in message
}> }> }> }news:oj8is1lio53ogpt42esllt98jepu9eo1e2@4ax.com...
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics, not
}> only
}> }> is
}> }> }> }> this condoned under Islamic law but this guy will be going to
}> their
}> }> }> }> version of heaven despite his heinous crime and his place there
}> is
}> }> }> }> probably guaranteed because of it. Needless to say this is a just
}> a
}> }> }> }> tiny sampling of what goes on in Muslim countries.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> It follows that Muslim heaven would be everyone elses hell - it's
}> }> full
}> }> }> }> of Muslims.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing'
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> December 25, 2005
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> A man allegedly killed his four daughters today by slitting their
}> }> }> }> throats while they slept in their home in eastern Pakistan, after
}> }> the
}> }> }> }> eldest married a man of her choice, police said.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> "The man came to a police station ... after killing his four
}> }> }> }> daughters," said senior police officer Mukhtar Iqbal Tikka.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> Nazeer Ahmed, who worked as a labourer near Burewala, some 110
}> }> }> }> kilometres east of Multan, had resented his eldest daughter's
}> love
}> }> }> }> marriage and killed the three others, fearing they might follow
}> her,
}> }> }> }> Tikka said.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> Ahmed allegedly told police his eldest daughter Muqadas Bibi, 25,
}> }> had
}> }> }> }> married a man of her choice against his wishes and her act had
}> }> }> }> tarnished the family's honour so he plotted to kill her and his
}> }> other
}> }> }> }> daughters.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> While she was asleep with her sisters Bano Bibi, 12, Sumera Bibi,
}> }> }> }> eight, and Humera, six, he allegedly cut their throats with a
}> sharp
}> }> }> }> knife, Tikka said.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in
}> conservative
}> }> }> }> rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting
}> }> }> }> family honour.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of
}> tribal
}> }> }> }> justice.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}> }> }> }> introducing the death penalty for honour killings.
}> }> }> }>
}> }> }> }> - AFP
}> }> }> }
}> }> }> }Once more you display your total lack of comprehension and grip on
}> }> }> reality.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> No, I comprehend alright but my reality is not your politically
}> }> }> correct version.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> }It's becoming tiresome.
}> }> }> }This case has little to do with Islam and all to do with
}> uneducated,
}> }> }> }backward peasants caught in centuries old rituals and customs.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> Right which is why it is predominantly something which occurs in
}> }> }> Islamic culture and communities. Read the articles you twit. It's
}> }> }> actually on the rise in Muslim communities in Western countries.
}> Could
}> }> }> it be all those backward peasants we're importing?
}> }> }>
}> }> }> }Similar things happen in many non Islamic cultures and these
}> }> occurences
}> }> }> are
}> }> }> }predominantly social rather than religious.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> No doubt, but again you show your ignorance in thinking Islam is
}> only
}> }> }> a religion rather than a social and political system.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> }Stop trying to bend facts to suit your own particular prejudice.
}> }> }> }
}> }> }>
}> }> }> I think if anyone is guilty of that it's you, but then I doubt you
}> }> }> could ever recognise or admit that.
}> }> }>
}> }> }> Anyway here's a few random articles for you enjoyment - try to read
}> }> }> them with the blinders off:
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-3-2005_pg7_46
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://www.secularislam.org/women/honor.htm
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://www.secularislam.org/women/tribalism.htm
}> }> }>
}> }> }>
}> }>
}> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MiQrnncq-_0J:news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051207/lf_nm/crime_britain_honour_dc+muslim+honour+killing+rise+west&hl=en&client=opera
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.html
}> }> }>
}> }> }> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1922641,00.html
}> }> }>
}> }> }>
}> }>
}> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/13/nzarin13.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/13/ixhome.html
}> }> }>
}> }> }
}> }> }I'm not interested in your muslim obsession, and also not interested
}> in
}> }> }reading any of the articles you've spent hours trawling the web for.
}> }>
}> }> Of course you're not, they challenge all your comfy beliefs and
}> }> besides it may actually take some effort to read and comprehend them.
}> }> BTW I spent all of 5 minutes on Google so Google must be anti-Islamic
}> }> and bigoted too...
}> }>
}> }> }Do you ever think of anything else by the way?
}> }>
}> }> Do you ever think?
}> }>
}> }> }If your interested in objectivity, which I doubt you're even capable
}> of,
}> }> }then read this:
}> }> }
}> }> }http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/30/1135732723968.html?from=top5
}> }> }
}> }> }Now tell me what the difference is.
}> }> }
}> }>
}> }> One is religiously/culturally taught and sanctioned the other is not,
}> }> you fucking idiot. Let's see if you can work out which is which.
}> }
}> }"President Pervez Musharraf early this year signed into law a bill
}> }introducing the death penalty for honour killings."
}> }Now tell me which one is sanctioned cretin.
}> }
}>
}> Did I say "legally" fuckwit? I said religiously/culturally - learn the
}> fucking difference.
}>
}> But to go further, Musharraf doesn't not hold himself up to be a
}> religious leader, furthermore he is under international pressure to
}> make certain changes to the barbaric laws of Pakistan. Comprende?
}>
}> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/22/wdebt22.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/22/ixworld.html
}>
}> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4311055.stm
}>
}> http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engASA330181999
}
}You're full of *****.
Should I be apologetic for attacking your sacred cow?
}Islam in no way shape or form sanctions honour killings, so these events are
}not culturally/religiously sanctioned as you state.
Really? So under the most draconian Sharia laws where even the
minutest aspects of dress code and behavior are controlled you still
have Honour Killings which go unpunished, how is that possible? More
so, how is it possible for a civilised religion/culture to sanction
that?
}It's a traditional and or cultural problem as I stated originally and has
}little or nothing to do with religion.
Arabs have practiced these things for millennia which then got mixed
in with Islam when it came along. It is now being exported by Muslims
to the West as is female genital mutilation and other barbaric
practices. That is the point, get it?
}The same thing happens in non Islamic cultures (Parts of India for example)
Uhuh.
}and there is a lot of evedence to suggest that female infants are regularly
}killed in rural parts of China.
Not the same thing.
}What the ***** are you scared of anyway?
Polyannas like you who don't know ***** from shoe polish.
}Muslims and Christians have co-existed for centuries in parts of the Middle
}East so what's the problem with a few percent of Australia's population?
Notice how that co-existence which you harp on about is no longer
that? In case you've had your head up your arse for the last 20 years
the region is being swept by militant Islam which again is being
exported to the West. As for a few percent, there are currently about
300000 in the country according to official numbers that will soon
double at which point they will start to agitate for Sharia law as
they are in Britain and Canada. Can you connect the dots?
}I doubt whether the penny will drop with you so I think you, Ferdie, Mos,
}Stan etc. can have your mindless little crusade to yourselves, I've had a
}gutfull.
}
You give up easily, Muslims like that in the infidel...
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| User: "Rifty" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
20 Jan 2006 06:40:49 AM |
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Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
It is now being exported by Muslims
to the West as is female genital mutilation and other barbaric
practices. That is the point, get it?
Where in the Qur'an does it sanction female genital mutilation?
Rifty
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
20 Jan 2006 08:16:32 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:40:49 +1100, (Rifty) wrote:
}Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
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}> It is now being exported by Muslims
}> to the West as is female genital mutilation and other barbaric
}> practices. That is the point, get it?
}
}Where in the Qur'an does it sanction female genital mutilation?
}
It doesn't you half wit, it is however largely practiced in Muslim
societies and is being exported to the West by Muslims. If you
actually made an effort to read and comprehend what I say it would be
easier for you.
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| User: "Rifty" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
20 Jan 2006 02:12:32 PM |
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Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:40:49 +1100, (Rifty) wrote:
}Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
}
}> It is now being exported by Muslims
}> to the West as is female genital mutilation and other barbaric
}> practices. That is the point, get it?
}
}Where in the Qur'an does it sanction female genital mutilation?
}
It doesn't you half wit, it is however largely practiced in Muslim
societies and is being exported to the West by Muslims.
Exactly what I hoped you say, (though preferably without the vitriol,
but you can waste space with that if it makes you happy.)
So now you admit that there's a difference between what's in the Qur'an
and what some Muslims practice. Yet how many times have you posted large
chunks from the Qur'an, totally out of context, to try to imply that
this is what Muslims today do?
Hypocrisy.
If you
actually made an effort to read and comprehend what I say it would be
easier for you.
I know exactly what you are saying.
Rifty
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| User: "Hunter1" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
20 Jan 2006 10:21:35 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:40:49 +1100, (Rifty) wrote:
}Michael Wallace <carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote:
}
}> It is now being exported by Muslims
}> to the West as is female genital mutilation and other barbaric
}> practices. That is the point, get it?
}
}Where in the Qur'an does it sanction female genital mutilation?
}
It doesn't you half wit, it is however largely practiced in Muslim
societies and is being exported to the West by Muslims. If you
actually made an effort to read and comprehend what I say it would be
easier for you.
Funny, Christians in the Middle-East and Africa practice it too.... But
don't let reality rain on your *****.....
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 12:52:21 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Rainbow Warrior" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 02:06:10 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974B6E7EC371vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
Atheism doesn't make people do anything, I can even go to any church or
naked Satanic rituals if I want.
Beat that, deity slave! :P
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 02:10:53 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Rainbow Warrior
(pizza@sbs.com.fr) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974B6E7EC371vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
Atheism doesn't make people do anything, I can even go to any church or
naked Satanic rituals if I want.
Beat that, deity slave! :P
Read my sig.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Rainbow Warrior" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 02:33:20 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974B7BCF38B22vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Rainbow Warrior
(pizza@sbs.com.fr) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns974B6E7EC371vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
Atheism doesn't make people do anything, I can even go to any church or
naked Satanic rituals if I want.
Beat that, deity slave! :P
Read my sig.
Sorry I've been missing Sunday services :)
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 05:55:20 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:52:21 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
}
}What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
Don't have one, *****-head. Are you a Muslim or another idiot that just
wants to defend it because it's your PC duty?
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 06:03:46 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaus.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:52:21 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
}
}What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
Don't have one, *****-head. Are you a Muslim or another idiot that just
wants to defend it because it's your PC duty?
I'm an atheist that enjoys making you ***** Christians jump for joy. Sit,
Ubu, sit.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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| Title: Re: Man slays four daughters in 'honour killing' |
14 Jan 2006 06:34:11 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:03:46 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaus.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:52:21 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}> }(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}> }
}> }> We have daily proof that Islam is a religion for lunatics
}> }
}> }What exactly makes yours any better, bigot?
}>
}> Don't have one, *****-head. Are you a Muslim or another idiot that just
}> wants to defend it because it's your PC duty?
}>
}
}I'm an atheist that enjoys making you ***** Christians jump for joy. Sit,
}Ubu, sit.
As I said old man, I don't have a religion. Missed that one did you?
BTW you're a long way down on that aa# list so since I outrank you -
you sit.
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