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19 Jun 2005 08:20:26 AM |
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Man who thought he was Jesus guilty of killing kids. |
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of whom he
fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
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Calif. man guilty of murdering nine of his children
By Jorene Barut-PhillipsSat Jun 18,12:34 PM ET
A California man, portrayed by prosecutors as a cult leader who claimed
to be Jesus, was found guilty on Friday of killing nine of his children
and grandchildren after fathering them by incest.
The Fresno jury found Marcus Wesson guilty of nine counts of
first-degree murder and 14 sex crimes, including raping and molesting
his underage daughters and nieces.
Wesson, who pleaded not guilty to the charges, appeared stoic as the
jury returned its verdict. He faces the death penalty or life in prison
without parole.
The jury deliberated for 10 days before reaching its verdicts.
Wesson, 58, was charged with fatally shooting seven of his children and
two of his grandchildren, aged 1 to 26, at his home in Fresno in March
2004. He had fathered the victims with his wife and with daughters and
nieces.
The killing started after a child custody dispute when two of Wesson's
estranged nieces returned to claim their children provoking a standoff
with police.
Wesson was suspected of impregnating family members so they could have
"babies for the Lord," held Bible study sessions three times daily and
proclaimed himself Jesus, prosecutors said.
Wesson's lawyers had argued the forensic evidence in the case did not
prove that he had killed the nine victims.
In his closing arguments, lead defense attorney Ralph Torres said the
Wesson family was "dysfunctional to the 10th power," but dismissed the
prosecution's theory of a murder-suicide pact as "made up."
Prosecutor Lisa Gamoian had told jurors the two adult females who died
were conspirators with Wesson and they aided each other in carrying out
a murder-suicide pact. (Reporting by Jorene Barut-Phillips in Fresno)
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: Man who thought he was Jesus guilty of killing kids. |
21 Jun 2005 07:24:01 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:20:26 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> thought
hard and wrote:
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of whom he
fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
What, no "This man is insane and, thus, we must spare his life"
*****? If this person were not a religious freak would you say the
same?
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 17 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Man who thought he was Jesus guilty of killing kids. |
22 Jun 2005 05:31:43 AM |
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In article <h7qgb1hl8ho131gp914df38mgs258kj1od@4ax.com>,
Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:20:26 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> thought
hard and wrote:
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of whom he
fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
What, no "This man is insane and, thus, we must spare his life"
*****? If this person were not a religious freak would you say the
same?
I suppose that non religious types kill their kids too sometimes, but it
seems in recent news, a disproportionate number of them are religious
nutters. I don't believe in the death penalty for anybody.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 17 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt
are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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| Title: Re: Man who thought he was Jesus guilty of killing kids. |
19 Jun 2005 10:06:16 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:20:26 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of whom he
fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
Insanity and religion do seem to go hand in hand. When he kills kids
he's crazy, when he does it by proxy, he's a prophet.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Man who thought he was Jesus guilty of killing kids. |
20 Jun 2005 04:44:39 AM |
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In article <2pgab1dlvc5nhbtmdotdtr1cib17v5luof@4ax.com>,
Razor 616 <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:20:26 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of whom he
fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
Insanity and religion do seem to go hand in hand. When he kills kids
he's crazy, when he does it by proxy, he's a prophet.
Maybe he should have called himself 'Abraham'.
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#1295
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Ben Goren" |
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20 Jun 2005 05:01:50 AM |
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johac wrote:
Razor 616 <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of
whom he fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
Insanity and religion do seem to go hand in hand. When he kills
kids he's crazy, when he does it by proxy, he's a prophet.
Maybe he should have called himself 'Abraham'.
Why go back that far? If the greatest thing that could ever
possibly be done was for God to have his own son killed, why
shouldn't it be a good thing for Christians to do likewise?
Cheers,
b&
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| User: "johac" |
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22 Jun 2005 05:25:43 AM |
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In article <42b64eaf$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net>,
Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
Razor 616 <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
Another religion freak ends up killing his kids, several of
whom he fathered by incest. These people are unbelievable.
Insanity and religion do seem to go hand in hand. When he kills
kids he's crazy, when he does it by proxy, he's a prophet.
Maybe he should have called himself 'Abraham'.
Why go back that far? If the greatest thing that could ever
possibly be done was for God to have his own son killed, why
shouldn't it be a good thing for Christians to do likewise?
Cheers,
b&
If more people start using that god as a role model, I don't see much
hope for the survival of the human race.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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