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Religions > Atheism |
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"David Barnes" |
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28 Feb 2004 06:05:27 PM |
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Manufacturing Hamburgers |
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans, the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are. They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml
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| User: "Matt" |
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28 Feb 2004 08:41:37 PM |
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David Barnes wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans, the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are. They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml
My definition, are they assemblers? a manufacturer would be creating the
components and the McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's etc. etc. would be the
assembler.
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Btw, this "off shoring" of jobs can be all placed on the idiots who
promoted the "strong dollar policy". Strong dollar is great if the wages
decrease to maintain cost parity with the rest of the world OR some how,
through divine intervention, US workers are magically 3x more efficient
in terms of output per-hour.
Matt
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
29 Feb 2004 12:06:29 AM |
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In article <c1rjkl$1mgr0o$1@ID-220941.news.uni-berlin.de>, Matt
<kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans, the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are. They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml
My definition, are they assemblers? a manufacturer would be creating the
components and the McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's etc. etc. would be the
assembler.
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Btw, this "off shoring" of jobs can be all placed on the idiots who
promoted the "strong dollar policy". Strong dollar is great if the wages
decrease to maintain cost parity with the rest of the world OR some how,
through divine intervention, US workers are magically 3x more efficient
in terms of output per-hour.
The reason the Republicans want to redefine what a ³manufacturer² is is
so they can some how create manufacturing jobs. It is the same
***** mentality that caused Florida.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
29 Feb 2004 12:56:56 PM |
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"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:280220042206296087%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c1rjkl$1mgr0o$1@ID-220941.news.uni-berlin.de>, Matt
<kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans,
the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are.
They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml
My definition, are they assemblers? a manufacturer would be creating the
components and the McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's etc. etc. would be the
assembler.
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their
business.
Btw, this "off shoring" of jobs can be all placed on the idiots who
promoted the "strong dollar policy". Strong dollar is great if the wages
decrease to maintain cost parity with the rest of the world OR some how,
through divine intervention, US workers are magically 3x more efficient
in terms of output per-hour.
The reason the Republicans want to redefine what a ³manufacturer² is is
so they can some how create manufacturing jobs. It is the same
***** mentality that caused Florida.
It reminds me of a remark that made the circles back in the 80's...Bush had
"solved" the poverty issue by making it illegal to be poor.
I don't remember which policy that statement was based on.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
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| User: "Matt" |
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29 Feb 2004 05:55:05 PM |
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The other Donald wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:280220042206296087%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
In article <c1rjkl$1mgr0o$1@ID-220941.news.uni-berlin.de>, Matt
<kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans,
the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are.
They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml
My definition, are they assemblers? a manufacturer would be creating the
components and the McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's etc. etc. would be the
assembler.
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their
business.
Btw, this "off shoring" of jobs can be all placed on the idiots who
promoted the "strong dollar policy". Strong dollar is great if the wages
decrease to maintain cost parity with the rest of the world OR some how,
through divine intervention, US workers are magically 3x more efficient
in terms of output per-hour.
The reason the Republicans want to redefine what a ³manufacturer² is is
so they can some how create manufacturing jobs. It is the same
***** mentality that caused Florida.
It reminds me of a remark that made the circles back in the 80's...Bush had
"solved" the poverty issue by making it illegal to be poor.
I don't remember which policy that statement was based on.
The difference is with Bush Senior is that he kept the current crowd
away from the white house. IIRC, he and his staff referred to them as
the "nutters". Funny, several years later and now his
barely-able-to-read son is now taking the nutters advice.
Matt
--
"Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody
can plan weird; that's easy. What's hard is to be as
simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple,
that's creativity." - Charles Mingus
"Jazz is my adventure. I'm after new chords, new
ways of syncopating, new figures, new runs. How to
use notes differently. That's it. Just using notes
differently" - Thelonious Monk
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| User: "SMChristenson" |
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29 Feb 2004 10:59:09 AM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:06:29 -0800, David Barnes wrote:
The reason the Republicans want to redefine what a ³manufacturer² is is
so they can some how create manufacturing jobs. It is the same
***** mentality that caused Florida.
But they're right. All the news will say is "Manufacturing jobs rose
x.x percent for the quarter surpassing projections of (less than x.x)
percent. Analysists see this as an indicator of a strengthening economy.
And turning now to California, Laci Petersen is still dead."
That isn't cynicism. That _is_ the level of news in the U.S. now. And it
is win/win. If people buy that things _are_ better, then Bush is a
genius. If they hear things are better but aren't seeing it in their
lives, it must be the liberals or homosexuals or God's wrath (because of
the liberals and homosexuals).
Win/win. If all you cared about was power, wouldn't you do the same thing?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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29 Feb 2004 12:41:48 PM |
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Matt <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Laws which protect workers and the community are not made up without real
basis. If you want to see why China can produce goods so cheaply all
you have to do is look at the air poluution that kills people and the
sewers and toxic waste dumps which used to be rivers. And when
businesses can ignore workers killed and injured in industrial
accidents, labor costs can be dirt cheap.
And it's not just China.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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29 Feb 2004 01:10:51 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c1tbpc$dre$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Matt <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Laws which protect workers and the community are not made up without real
basis. If you want to see why China can produce goods so cheaply all
you have to do is look at the air poluution that kills people and the
sewers and toxic waste dumps which used to be rivers. And when
businesses can ignore workers killed and injured in industrial
accidents, labor costs can be dirt cheap.
And it's not just China.
No *****.
Last Thursday, I quoted the structural steel for a new middle school in the
Hutto ISD. (Hutto is a town in the greater Austin area.) The owner of the
fab shop that I quoted it through, Shug, had gone to a contractor's meeting
for all interested parties.
Shug's shop is approximately six miles due south on the same road that the
school is being built on: FM 685.
One of the interested contractors, a representative for a shop in Mexico,
had the unmitigated gall to corner Shug and make the comment "You have an
advantage because you are so close."
Shug lost it. He basically told the guy that he (Mexico shop) can get away
with paying his people $10 a day, carry no workman's comp or liability
insurance, and have a shitty and dangerous shop, so he needed to shut up and
get away from him (Shug).
Not that it'll do any good, but at least Shug got it off his chest. The shop
in Mexico will come in with a price that is lower than the *cost* of doing
the project with US companies, so we realistically don't have a chance.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
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| User: "Matt" |
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29 Feb 2004 05:51:42 PM |
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The other Donald wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c1tbpc$dre$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Matt <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Laws which protect workers and the community are not made up without real
basis. If you want to see why China can produce goods so cheaply all
you have to do is look at the air poluution that kills people and the
sewers and toxic waste dumps which used to be rivers. And when
businesses can ignore workers killed and injured in industrial
accidents, labor costs can be dirt cheap.
And it's not just China.
No *****.
Last Thursday, I quoted the structural steel for a new middle school in the
Hutto ISD. (Hutto is a town in the greater Austin area.) The owner of the
fab shop that I quoted it through, Shug, had gone to a contractor's meeting
for all interested parties.
Shug's shop is approximately six miles due south on the same road that the
school is being built on: FM 685.
One of the interested contractors, a representative for a shop in Mexico,
had the unmitigated gall to corner Shug and make the comment "You have an
advantage because you are so close."
Shug lost it. He basically told the guy that he (Mexico shop) can get away
with paying his people $10 a day, carry no workman's comp or liability
insurance, and have a shitty and dangerous shop, so he needed to shut up and
get away from him (Shug).
Not that it'll do any good, but at least Shug got it off his chest. The shop
in Mexico will come in with a price that is lower than the *cost* of doing
the project with US companies, so we realistically don't have a chance.
Funny you mention workman's comp or liability insurance, why does the
government run a national compensation insurance scheme like NZ has with
ACC http://www.acc.co.nz/ , oh, btw, the minimum wage in NZ is $8.00 and
hour which is around US$5.50-US$6.00 an hour. Why should we be punished
because we have a favourable currency?
Matt
--
"Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody
can plan weird; that's easy. What's hard is to be as
simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple,
that's creativity." - Charles Mingus
"Jazz is my adventure. I'm after new chords, new
ways of syncopating, new figures, new runs. How to
use notes differently. That's it. Just using notes
differently" - Thelonious Monk
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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29 Feb 2004 01:35:03 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:41:48 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Matt <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Laws which protect workers and the community are not made up without real
basis. If you want to see why China can produce goods so cheaply all
you have to do is look at the air poluution that kills people and the
sewers and toxic waste dumps which used to be rivers. And when
businesses can ignore workers killed and injured in industrial
accidents, labor costs can be dirt cheap.
And it's not just China.
Imagine if the Union Carbide accident in Bohpal had happened in a
major US city.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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29 Feb 2004 07:09:32 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Matt <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Laws which protect workers and the community are not made up without real
basis. If you want to see why China can produce goods so cheaply all
you have to do is look at the air poluution that kills people and the
sewers and toxic waste dumps which used to be rivers. And when
businesses can ignore workers killed and injured in industrial
accidents, labor costs can be dirt cheap.
And it's not just China.
Imagine if the Union Carbide accident in Bohpal had happened in a
major US city.
There would be no more Union Carbide.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Matt" |
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29 Feb 2004 05:47:52 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Matt <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Btw, has GWB ever thought of the good old fashion, "removing red tape"
as a way to win back manufacturers? talk to companies and what do most
of them moan about? the red tap, the metres and metres of red tape they
have to contend with on a daily basis. If it isn't the tax, it is the
numerous laws made up, with no real basis, which strangle their business.
Laws which protect workers and the community are not made up without real
basis. If you want to see why China can produce goods so cheaply all
you have to do is look at the air poluution that kills people and the
sewers and toxic waste dumps which used to be rivers. And when
businesses can ignore workers killed and injured in industrial
accidents, labor costs can be dirt cheap.
And it's not just China.
And funny, when you hear whiners in the first world, these same people
are quite happy to purchase their $10 T-Shirts when they *COULD*
volunteer to purchase a T-Shirt made in their own country.
The fact is, for all the whining of the protectionists, none of them are
willing to purchase products made in their own country, they apparently
need to be FORCED by government to purchase them.
Btw, in regards to your diatribe about China, a man in New Zealand
PROVED that you can make socks for the same price as importing them from
China. He runs a sock factory on the west coast of New Zealand and on
average it only costs companies 5cents more purchasing the socks off
him. What did he do? controlled costs, ensured he had the most modern
machinery he could, and setup a factory in a location with low over heads.
Matt
--
"Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody
can plan weird; that's easy. What's hard is to be as
simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple,
that's creativity." - Charles Mingus
"Jazz is my adventure. I'm after new chords, new
ways of syncopating, new figures, new runs. How to
use notes differently. That's it. Just using notes
differently" - Thelonious Monk
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28 Feb 2004 09:38:36 PM |
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Mayor Gavin Newsom on Saturday accused President
Bush of political showmanship and discrimination
after the Social Security Administration announced it
wouldn't accept any marriage licenses from San
Francisco -- gay or straight -- until the same-sex issue
was resolved.
"I think it was political and retaliatory," Newsom said
in an interview after his first town hall meeting since
taking office 52 days ago. "The president is not only
now discriminating against gay couples, he's
discriminating against straight people."
Newsom said his administration looks forward to
arguing the constitutionality of same-sex marriages
before the California Supreme Court.
On Friday, the high court declined a request by
Attorney General Bill Lockyer to immediately shut
down San Francisco's gay weddings -- more than
3,400 such ceremonies have been performed since
the city began issuing the licenses two weeks ago.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/02/28/state1847EST0129.DTL
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| User: "Snubis" |
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| Title: Re: BUSH NOW DENIES HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGES TOO ! |
29 Feb 2004 07:53:08 PM |
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On Sat 28 Feb 2004 10:38:36p, Daniel Ray <Daniel@Rayy.com> wrote in
news:404152EA.28D06F9B@Rayy.com:
Mayor Gavin Newsom on Saturday accused President
Bush of political showmanship and discrimination
after the Social Security Administration announced it
wouldn't accept any marriage licenses from San
Francisco -- gay or straight -- until the same-sex
issue was resolved.
If the mayor didn't break the law then his city wouldn't be in this mess.
--
€
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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01 Mar 2004 10:59:48 AM |
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In talk.abortion, Snubis
<snubis@wp.pl>
wrote
on Mon, 01 Mar 2004 01:53:08 GMT
<9d656050ba35976f1f39817ec6c45f92@news.teranews.com>:
On Sat 28 Feb 2004 10:38:36p, Daniel Ray <Daniel@Rayy.com> wrote in
news:404152EA.28D06F9B@Rayy.com:
Mayor Gavin Newsom on Saturday accused President
Bush of political showmanship and discrimination
after the Social Security Administration announced it
wouldn't accept any marriage licenses from San
Francisco -- gay or straight -- until the same-sex
issue was resolved.
If the mayor didn't break the law then his city wouldn't be in this mess.
It would be interesting to try to arrest the mayor.
Surely our California Attorney General could send troops?
(Personally, I think this is a ridiculously overblown issue.
But it *is* an election year.)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Feb 2004 05:44:43 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:05:27 -0800, David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans, the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are. They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
Interesting. Clinton called massive MacDonalds cashiers high unemployment.
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| User: "Elmo" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
01 Mar 2004 01:31:15 PM |
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In article <89u4401j4t1qp5362p2cn3a7kq09l1m0is@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:05:27 -0800, David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans, the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are. They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
Interesting. Clinton called massive MacDonalds cashiers high unemployment.
What does this mean?
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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01 Mar 2004 03:44:16 PM |
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"Elmo" <homeera@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:010320041134404234%homeera@yahoo.com...
In article <89u4401j4t1qp5362p2cn3a7kq09l1m0is@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:05:27 -0800, David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In yet another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of Americans, the
Bush Administration now wants to classify making hamburgers at
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, etc. as ³manufacturing.²
The Bush Administration thinks everyone is as stupid as they are. They
hope people will buy the idea that making hamburgers and alike should
be classified as manufacturing so that they can claim an increase in
the creation of jobs to the manufacturing sector. Now, only a moron
would accept such a thing, but apparently the Republicans have just
those types of followers. After all, a few years ago they hoped to
classify catsup as a vegetable in order to avoid feeding poor children
their free school lunches.
Interesting. Clinton called massive MacDonalds cashiers high
unemployment.
What does this mean?
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of his
ilk, and his posts.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
02 Mar 2004 04:43:14 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
02 Mar 2004 10:20:59 PM |
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In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people. Bush hates it
when that happens.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
02 Mar 2004 10:27:33 PM |
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David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
02 Mar 2004 10:30:38 PM |
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In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ³Democratic.²
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 06:54:24 AM |
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David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ³Democratic.²
Who is this WE, white man?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 07:10:01 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:104blc6n4rv8pcb@news.supernews.com...
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical
of his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major
'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ³Democratic.²
Who is this WE, white man?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
That is all they know. I pity them, but at the same time I thank God I am
not like them.
There motto is, if they don't agree with you, attack them.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 11:48:09 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in news:TbSdneceprX1RdjdRVn-
uw@comcast.com:
That is all they know. I pity them, but at the same time I thank God I
am not like them. There motto is, if they don't agree with you, attack
them.
"Apparently, you feel that if someone doesn't believe your lies,
that you should continue to screech them over and over in an
attempt to convince someone that what you're saying has any
value. This isn't kindergarten Asspry, and no matter how many
times you screech your lies, they will continue to BE lies."
(pr0r3p) writing to coward osprey (bobby
heishman) in <1686c3b8.0401271759.27fa1e9e@posting.google.com>
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 09:46:17 AM |
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In article <TbSdneceprX1RdjdRVn-uw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
That is all they know. I pity them, but at the same time I thank God I am
not like them.
There motto is, if they don't agree with you, attack them.
Due to OspreyÕs ÒFear List,Ó Osprey is now reduced to running around
behind people saying Òme too!Ó
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 09:46:18 AM |
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In article <104blc6n4rv8pcb@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of
his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ÒDemocratic.Ó
Who is this WE, white man?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
Cheap Shot? You were the one who simply claimed your position was right
without any support. Only a moron like Osprey would support something
like that.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 10:20:20 AM |
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David Barnes wrote:
In article <104blc6n4rv8pcb@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish. Typical of
his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ?Democratic.?
Who is this WE, white man?
Well, who?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
Cheap Shot? You were the one who simply claimed your position was right
without any support.
No, the support is the fact that Aristide was a cheap dictator who uses
terror tactics and criminal gangs to support his totalitarian rule.
Only a moron like Osprey would support something
like that.
Only a moron like you would claim avoid the issue to "support" a cheap
dictator at the expense of his credibility.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 11:50:14 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:104c1e4av4hrve6@news.supernews.com...
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104blc6n4rv8pcb@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish.
Typical of
his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another
major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm
here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ?Democratic.?
Who is this WE, white man?
Well, who?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
Cheap Shot? You were the one who simply claimed your position was right
without any support.
No, the support is the fact that Aristide was a cheap dictator who uses
terror tactics and criminal gangs to support his totalitarian rule.
Only a moron like Osprey would support something
like that.
Only a moron like you would claim avoid the issue to "support" a cheap
dictator at the expense of his credibility.
Snicker...barney is still using me in his post...what a loon
He has serious issues Fred..he isn't worth your time.
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| User: "Elmo" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 01:30:13 PM |
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In article <prWdnSF6epu_h9vdRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:104c1e4av4hrve6@news.supernews.com...
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104blc6n4rv8pcb@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish.
Typical of
his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another
major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm
here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ?Democratic.?
Who is this WE, white man?
Well, who?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
Cheap Shot? You were the one who simply claimed your position was right
without any support.
No, the support is the fact that Aristide was a cheap dictator who uses
terror tactics and criminal gangs to support his totalitarian rule.
Only a moron like Osprey would support something
like that.
Only a moron like you would claim avoid the issue to "support" a cheap
dictator at the expense of his credibility.
Snicker...barney is still using me in his post...what a loon
He has serious issues Fred..he isn't worth your time.
The issues seems to be yours. He wasn't talking about Barnes. Are you
obsessed?
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Manufacturing Hamburgers |
03 Mar 2004 10:08:01 PM |
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In article <030320041133403807%homeera@yahoo.com>, Elmo
<homeera@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <prWdnSF6epu_h9vdRVn-gw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:104c1e4av4hrve6@news.supernews.com...
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104blc6n4rv8pcb@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <104anlgenc72791@news.supernews.com>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
David Barnes wrote:
In article <q1p840979l8fnj6qmhno76rmonp90n4igr@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:44:16 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com>
wrote:
It means that Duke is a fucking moron with a Clinton fetish.
Typical of
his
ilk, and his posts.
A small typo, lukenbak. Just this week, Bush corrected another
major 'rat
klinton blunder - Haiti.
Now anytime you would like to reasonably discuss a subject, I'm
here.
Yeah - President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected in Haiti's first
free and fair election by the majority of the people.
And then he became another dictator, using criminal gangs and terror
tactics upon his opponents, even stacking a Senatorial election which
even the UN had to agree was not acceptable.
And so WE decided it was time for him to go. How ?Democratic.?
Who is this WE, white man?
Well, who?
Bush hates it
when that happens.
So does any right-thinking American.
Exactly. RIGHT thinking Americans.
Facists....
I figured you'd go for the cheap shot. Scratch a liberal, find a
totalitarian.
Cheap Shot? You were the one who simply claimed your position was right
without any support.
No, the support is the fact that Aristide was a cheap dictator who uses
terror tactics and criminal gangs to support his totalitarian rule.
Only a moron like Osprey would support something
like that.
Only a moron like you would claim avoid the issue to "support" a cheap
dictator at the expense of his credibility.
Snicker...barney is still using me in his post...what a loon
He has serious issues Fred..he isn't worth your time.
The issues seems to be yours. He wasn't talking about Barnes. Are you
obsessed?
Yes - heÕs obsessed. And scared to death of me and others here. He got
slapped big time a while back and ever since then he walks on egg
shells.
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