Religions > Atheism > Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. Constitution does not include the phrase "Separat
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30 Sep 2006 05:42:13 PM |
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Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. Constitution does not include the phrase "Separat |
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of Church &
State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." Please note that the
Declaration says about our rights secured by Christianity.The
Constitution also uses many pagan words such as January (from the
two-headed Roman god, Janus), and Sunday (from the word Sunne, which
refers to the Saxon Sun god). Can you imagine the ludicrous position of
someone trying to argue for the justification of a pagan god based
Constitution?same goes to any ATHEIST who attempts to use a dating
convention as an argument against the Constitution's CHRISTIAN nature,
and can only paint himself as naive, or worse, as dishonest and
deceiving.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. Constitution does not include the phrase "Sep |
03 Oct 2006 10:55:55 AM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America.
How delightfully incoherent!
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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02 Oct 2006 08:11:22 AM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America.
That is because the Christians (note the lack of an apostrophe, because I
am using the plural, not the posessive) you speak of are ignorant morons.
The Declaration of Independence does not speak of Jesus or Christianity; it
makes a brief mention of an impartial Creator who could just as easily be
Allah or Brahman or Ptah as it could be the Christian deity. What's more,
the Declaration of Independence was nothing more than a piece of
revolutionary rhetoric that made excuses for overthrowing legitimate
govermnent. Unless you are willing to admit that the people really ARE
fully empowered to revolt against government that works against their
interests. The Bush Junta, for example.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
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| User: "Bill M" |
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02 Oct 2006 08:29:09 AM |
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Good 'factual' post'!
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America.
That is because the Christians (note the lack of an apostrophe, because I
am using the plural, not the posessive) you speak of are ignorant morons.
The Declaration of Independence does not speak of Jesus or Christianity;
it
makes a brief mention of an impartial Creator who could just as easily be
Allah or Brahman or Ptah as it could be the Christian deity. What's more,
the Declaration of Independence was nothing more than a piece of
revolutionary rhetoric that made excuses for overthrowing legitimate
govermnent. Unless you are willing to admit that the people really ARE
fully empowered to revolt against government that works against their
interests. The Bush Junta, for example.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
Help defend marriage in Washington state!
http://www.wa-doma.org
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| User: "Davej" |
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| Title: Re: Many Christian's who of America... |
30 Sep 2006 07:38:08 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Why isn't Jesus mentioned even one time?
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:55:17 AM |
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On 30 Sep 2006 17:38:08 -0700, "Davej" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Why isn't Jesus mentioned even one time?
Because to the hard-of-thinking fundamentalist any mention of god,
creator etc means their specific version. After all that's the only
possible one - especially for somebody they respect. Which in their
case means their God/Jesus fusion. They can't conceive of it meaning
anything else.
And they are in such a world of their own with its own history,
meanings for words etc, even its own logic that you can't get through
to them to explain otherwise.
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| User: "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" |
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01 Oct 2006 03:49:51 AM |
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God loves you with an infinite love, that will never fail you no matter
how often people let you down. Accept your homosexuality every day as a
gift, in God's loving wisdom, and God will light your path.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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01 Oct 2006 04:11:25 AM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
God loves you with an infinite love, that will never fail you no matter
how often people let you down. Accept your homosexuality every day as a
gift, in God's loving wisdom, and God will light your path.
Why do you fuckers always change the subject when you get a slapping?
That's not 'turning the other cheek', that's being point blank
dishonest.
BTW, IAMTRUESYKOPATH, You are a peice of deviant humanity cast out of
the same mould as Bible John Wolf. Sneering at your moral and
intellectual superiors with one breath and attempting to appeal to our
human decency - which, Mr Ripley fashion, you can only ever exercise
curiosity about and never comprehension - with the next
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| User: "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" |
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| Title: Re: Many Christian's who of America... |
01 Oct 2006 04:48:14 AM |
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WE Christian Nationalists Endorse Torture
WE Christian Nationalists usually the sole defenders of morality,
Christianity, and traditional American values.Our rules for
interrogation need to catch-up with this awful new form of war that is
being fought against all of us and the free world. The post -World War
II standards do not apply to this new war We must redefine how our
lawful society treats those who have nothing but contempt for the law
and rely on terrorizing the innocent to accomplish their objectives.
The lines must be redrawn and then we must pursue these criminals as
quickly and as aggressively as the law permits.We encourage all of our
supporters and affiliated churches to contact their elected
representatives and let them know we support President Bush's efforts
to update our methods of interrogating terrorist detainees in order to
provide greater protection for our troops and the innocent
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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03 Oct 2006 10:56:34 AM |
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"I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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WE Christian Nationalists Endorse Torture
That's nice, freak.
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Robyn
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| User: "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" |
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07 Oct 2006 03:47:17 PM |
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First let me say "I believe in God". Not a God that tells me to
commit acts of senseless cowardly terrorism, but a God that
guided Americans to build the greatest country in the world
through hard work, persistence, and blood, sweat and toil. The
American people will prevail in this tradgedy. We have a spirit
of independence and freedom that cannot be destroyed by hijacked
planes or bombs. We also have the most capable military force on
the planet. If these terrorists are not handed over to us, we
will deal with the criminals that harbor them with swift and
immense justice. I personally will dance and pass out candy when
we do.
Just a side note: How far do think a third world country would
fare in a war with a superpower? I would venture to guess we
would win, as we did in Iraq in a matter of days.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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01 Oct 2006 05:02:41 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet I AMTRUECRISTIAN (XL5
@OPERAMAIL.COM) made the light shine upon us with this:
God loves you with an infinite love,
....and if you don't believe in him you will be tortured forever. That's
like saying Geoffrey Dahmer pronounced his love for his victims one
spoonful at a time.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:07:48 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:38:08 -0700, Davej wrote:
I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Why isn't Jesus mentioned even one time?
You have to read between the lines.
It helps if you bash your head against a brick wall several times first...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Andres64" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:22:12 PM |
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I AMTRUECRISTIAN wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of Church &
State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." Please note that the
Declaration says about our rights secured by Christianity.The
Constitution also uses many pagan words such as January (from the
two-headed Roman god, Janus), and Sunday (from the word Sunne, which
refers to the Saxon Sun god). Can you imagine the ludicrous position of
someone trying to argue for the justification of a pagan god based
Constitution?same goes to any ATHEIST who attempts to use a dating
convention as an argument against the Constitution's CHRISTIAN nature,
and can only paint himself as naive, or worse, as dishonest and
deceiving.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. Constitution does not include the phrase "Sep |
30 Sep 2006 08:13:56 PM |
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On 30 Sep 2006 15:42:13 -0700 "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM>
said the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah for some reason...
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Really? The only references are to a "Creator" and to "Nature's God."
And the Declaration never mentions Christianity, and indeed violates
the bible demand that we be obedient to kings.
Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of Church &
State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion."
The 1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a
redress of grievances."
Right there.
Please note that the
Declaration says about our rights secured by Christianity.The
Constitution also uses many pagan words such as January (from the
two-headed Roman god, Janus), and Sunday (from the word Sunne, which
refers to the Saxon Sun god). Can you imagine the ludicrous position of
someone trying to argue for the justification of a pagan god based
Constitution?same goes to any ATHEIST who attempts to use a dating
convention as an argument against the Constitution's CHRISTIAN nature,
and can only paint himself as naive, or worse, as dishonest and
deceiving.
Show me the Biblical support for a Federal Republic.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| Title: Re: Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. Constitution does not include the phrase "Sep |
01 Oct 2006 12:20:55 PM |
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On 30 Sep 2006 15:42:13 -0700, "I AMTRUECRISTIAN" <XL5@OPERAMAIL.COM>
wrote:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of Church &
State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." Please note that the
Declaration says about our rights secured by Christianity.The
Constitution also uses many pagan words such as January (from the
two-headed Roman god, Janus), and Sunday (from the word Sunne, which
refers to the Saxon Sun god). Can you imagine the ludicrous position of
someone trying to argue for the justification of a pagan god based
Constitution?same goes to any ATHEIST who attempts to use a dating
convention as an argument against the Constitution's CHRISTIAN nature,
and can only paint himself as naive, or worse, as dishonest and
deceiving.
You are grasping at straws. If it weren't for the coincidence that
those words happened to slip in, you'd begin saying things like
"depending on what the meaning if is is" is makes it a religious
document.
Actually, the absence of direct words about religion is most obvious.
And you missed the part where the Constitution said "no Religious
Test" be required for oath of office.
If many of the founders were deists or theists, and wrote about their
beliefs in private communication, why do you think they didn't pepper
the Constitution with God-blurbs and bible references? Hell, they
could have had total theocracy right there. Bang.
BBBBZZZZZZTTT - They didn't. Clue? Anyone know what that means? No,
they didn't forget. The people didn't want it, that's why. Bang Bang.
See? They came here to be free of religious abuse, so they weren't
about to set up here what they fled from there. Sometimes the obvious
glares so much it's unnoticed. Bang Bang Bang.
Christians are good salespeople but their product is a sham. Thud.
SunYata from America, Earth.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. Constitution does not include the phrase "Sep |
30 Sep 2006 07:27:29 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet I AMTRUECRISTIAN (XL5
@OPERAMAIL.COM) made the light shine upon us with this:
Many Christian's who of America as founded upon Christianity usually
present the Declaration of Independence as proof of a Christian
America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God.
Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of Church &
State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." Please note that the
Declaration says about our rights secured by Christianity.The
Constitution also uses many pagan words such as January (from the
two-headed Roman god, Janus), and Sunday (from the word Sunne, which
refers to the Saxon Sun god). Can you imagine the ludicrous position of
someone trying to argue for the justification of a pagan god based
Constitution?same goes to any ATHEIST who attempts to use a dating
convention as an argument against the Constitution's CHRISTIAN nature,
and can only paint himself as naive, or worse, as dishonest and
deceiving.
Does this sound more like what you had in mind for our country?
http://www.putrid.com/taliban.htm
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
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